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Is Cole Hamels Heading Elswhere???

When Cole Hamels recieved his contract he refered toi it as a "low blow". He had a good season and he felt he deserved more than what they gave him. That didn't scare me too much. But, what does scare me is how the team is hitting behind him...or should I say how they AREN'T! it has to be frustrating when you play so well and have a stained record because of your team. It has to frustrate you when you give up one run over eight innings and LOSE the game! With him already playing for a team that he feels kicked him in the balls after a all-star season with a contract below his expectations, is the lack of run support the final straw? Will he pack his bags and go to the AL so he doesn't have to get pulled from great pitching performances?

What do you think?

If he doesn't work something out with the Phillies, where will he go?

| Closed on 10/31/08 at 11:45PM
FanIQ Pts? No | MLB, Philadelphia Phillies | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll

21 Fans
90%	a. He'll stay with the Phillies
0%	b. He's headed for the AL
10%	c. Other


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#1 \| 106 days ago MasterSplinter (+)	(Edited by MasterSplinter) +1 I myself think he still wants to stay. BUT, I think that he'll pack his bags if there are any significant problem during negotiating his new contract.
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#2 \| 105 days ago alsp1958 (+)	He'll be in Philly at least one more season but after that it's a crap shoot. Other
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#3 \| 77 days ago derms33 (+)	The Human Bobble-head (Charlie Manuel) really wants him there!! He'll stay with the Phillies
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#4 \| 70 days ago phillydeac4life (+)	The Phillies have his rights for at least the next 4 years, if not 5. He was a rookie in 2006, and completed his first full season in 2007. The only way Cole Hammels can leave the Phillies within the next few years is if they trade him. If the Phillies do not trade him, then they either go to arbitration or sign him to a long term deal. However, his reasons for leaving Philly should have NOTHING to do with lack of run support. It is Baseball. This shit happpens, has happened for years, and will continue to happen for years. In 2005, when Clemens was with Houston he had an ERA of 1.87, let me say that again an ERA of 1.87 in 211.3 IP with 185 K's; yet he was 13-8. The following year, Clemens had an ERA of 2.30 in 113 IP with 102 K's and a record of 7-8. He'll stay with the Phillies
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#5 \| 63 days ago MasterSplinter (+)	phillydeac4life wrote: The Phillies have his rights for at least the next 4 years, if not 5. He was a rookie in 2006, and completed his first full season in 2007. The only way Cole Hammels can leave the Phillies within the next few years is if they trade him. If the Phillies do not trade him, then they either go to arbitration or sign him to a long term deal. However, his reasons for leaving Philly should have NOTHING to do with lack of run support. It is Baseball. This shit happpens, has happened for years, and will continue to happen for years. In 2005, when Clemens was with Houston he had an ERA of 1.87, let me say that again an ERA of 1.87 in 211.3 IP with 185 K's; yet he was 13-8. The following year, Clemens had an ERA of 2.30 in 113 IP with 102 K's and a record of 7-8. Yes it happens but that wont always stop a player from feeling some type of way about it!
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#6 \| 63 days ago phillydeac4life (+)	MasterSplinter wrote: Yes it happens but that wont always stop a player from feeling some type of way about it! Well, I hope Cole is mature enough to understand that the lack of run support throughout the year was nothing personal. It is Baseball, this kind of shit happens. It is not the first time a great pitcher recieved low run support, and it will not be the last time. I have learned over the years that the most important stats for a pitcher are ERA, K's, IP, and Walks. The pitcher is able to control all of the latter stats (yes, a team can make a defensive blunder that prolongs an inning, or a ump make a bad call). ERA represents how well he is able to keep his team in the game. A higher IP shows (1) he is keeping his team in the game because if he was not, then most likely he would have been yanked from the game. (2) Also, by pitching more innings he helps out the bullpen, it is so important to keep the Bullpen fresh, and one way to do this is pitch longer in a game. K's show a direct impact on getting outs himself. Also, if he is an effective strikeout pitcher, then he has the ability to get himself out of jams. Finally, walks show his control of his command. Obivously, the less walks allowed the less baserunners, thus a lower chance a team has to score. Also, there is a high correlation between high IP and low walks. When a pitcher does not walk people he is usally not getting deeper into counts, and avoids having to pitch to extra batters once a walk is issued. Therefore, Cole should just worry about himself. I'll leave you with this stat. Last year, Adam Eaton had 10 wins, despite having the highest ERA among ALL NL starters. He'll stay with the Phillies
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#7 \| 42 days ago donm454 (+)	Cole Hamels is not going anywhere. He'll stay with the Phillies
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#	Name	FanIQ	Answer (Red= You Disagreed)
21	Jahiegel 10/31/2008 01:07PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
20	mandisdad 10/28/2008 06:21PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
19	biffy018 10/28/2008 05:11PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
18	pauljv3 10/16/2008 04:21PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
17	ljte09 10/14/2008 02:05PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
16	BestofChicago 09/29/2008 04:58PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
15	Pat 09/28/2008 01:45PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
14	donm454 09/25/2008 10:33PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
13	phillydeac4life 09/25/2008 10:22PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
12	derms33 09/18/2008 05:30PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
11	Michael G 09/08/2008 03:25PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
10	dallasfan27 09/03/2008 12:47AM		He'll stay with the Phillies
9	bookiebuster 08/29/2008 07:33PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
8	qtowndogg 08/21/2008 12:51PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
7	alsp1958 08/21/2008 08:52AM		Other
6	ukcatfan383 08/21/2008 07:42AM		He'll stay with the Phillies
5	Yossarian 08/20/2008 04:14PM
4	tpowell25 08/20/2008 03:37PM		He'll stay with the Phillies
3	Nick S 08/20/2008 09:45AM		He'll stay with the Phillies
2	theshrewdone 08/20/2008 09:08AM		Other
1	Anthonyg7575 08/20/2008 08:58AM		He'll stay with the Phillies