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Rank Your Team 2008
I tried this out last year, and some of you liked it, so with the new members here, I figured I'd give it another try.

So before the 08' MLB season starts off...how about you rank your favorite team in relation to the other teams in the league (from best, above-average, average, below average, and worst).

Here are the 6 different categories you are ranking your team in: Starting Pitching, Bullpen, Top of the order (1-5 hitters), Bottom of the order (6-9 hitters), Defense and Overall.

After you rank your team, please post below who your favorite team is, and feel free to go in depth on why you voted the way you did.
Featured by: WhoDey at 4/09/08 11:10PM
| Closed on 04/22/08 at 05:00PM
FanIQ Pts? No | MLB | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll
Team Breakout:
84 Fans 
 1. How good is your teams Starting Pitching? (0 points)
6%a. The Best!
54%b. Above-average
29%c. Average
10%d. Below-average
2%e. The Worst.
 2. How good is your teams Bullpen? (0 points)
1%a. The Best!
40%b. Above-average
35%c. Average
19%d. Below-average
5%e. The Worst.
 3. How good are your teams 1-5 hitters? (0 points)
31%a. The Best!
44%b. Above-average
15%c. Average
8%d. Below-average
1%e. The Worst.
 4. How good are your teams 6-9 hitters? (0 points)
10%a. The Best!
26%b. Above-average
50%c. Average
12%d. Below-average
2%e. The Worst.
 5. How good is your teams Defense? (0 points)
5%a. The Best!
49%b. Above-average
35%c. Average
10%d. Below-average
2%e. The Worst.
 6. How good is your team Overall? (0 points)
23%a. The Best!
49%b. Above-average
20%c. Average
6%d. Below-average
2%e. The Worst.

 &nbp;
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#60 | 144 days ago

+4 thumbs upthe Cubs, baby ... all the way!
1. The Best!  2. Above-average  3. Above-average  4. Above-average  5. The Best!  6. The Best!  
  
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#1 | 168 days ago

+3 thumbs upMy team is the Minnesota Twins:

#1 - With Johan gone, as well as Silva, you're looking at nothing more than a very, very young rotation whose 'leader' is nothing more than an inning eater in Livan Hernandez. None of that really looks all that well, and while I hope for the best with Liriano's return, we look at nothing more than a rotation that could very well be centered around Hernandez, Boof, Liriano, Baker, and probably Slowey or Humber rounding it out. Not close to good, and may very well be a struggling unit all year long.

#2 - With as bad as the starting rotation may be, the Bullpen sure doesn't look too shaky. One of the best bullpens over the past few years, they really didn't change a lot. Nathan is still our closer, and with guys like Guerrier, Crain, and Rincon doing the longer work; Cali along with Dennys Reyes and Pat Neshek doing the middle and set-up work, the bullpen may very well be our bright spot to this season.

#3 - The top of the order is something iffy. Morneau most likely being the cleanup hitter, and Cuddyer could either be in front of him or behind him, and Delmon Young would be wherever Cuddy isn't. Leadoff man in Adam Everett and Mauer probably the 2...it has potential to score some runs.

#4 - Bottom of the order, however, can look like a mess. Guys like Monroe, Kubel, Lamb, Gomez, and Redmond looking for their time, and just not enough spots to give them all at-bats consistently. Will be good to see as soon as possible who it is Gardy chooses to start out the year, and who is sent down.

#5 - Defense is something the Twins have been one thing, along with their bullpen, that they've been consistently good at. Obviously the loss of Hunter in Center field just makes that outfield look so much larger, but I just have a feeling it won't be too bad when it comes to consistent play and error-free games. Mauer/Redmond behind the plate are good, very good. Morneau at first can scoop plenty of balls, and as long as his legs feel good, he should be fine over there. The left side of the infield are new to the Twins, but not to MLB. Lamb and Everett are consistent players; not necessarily flashy with the leather, but they don't make mistakes often. In the outfield, Cuddy in right, Young, whether he plays left or center should be ok, but must learn how to adapt in the Dome.

#6 - Overall; it's going to be a long one for the Twins. Lack of SP is the killer right now, and you can't think of too many moves out there for there to be a spectacular turnaround. You hope for the best from them, and while the lineup may do more of the same "score 10 runs for 2 games, then go scoreless the next 5", it will be difficult to believe the team goes higher than .500.
1. The Worst.  2. Above-average  3. Average  4. Average  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#2 | 166 days ago

My team- Phillies
1. Above-average  2. Average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. Above-average  6. Above-average  
#3 | 166 days ago

i dont think, even though i put it, that for number 6 any one can say there team is truly the best right now (this early)
1. Above-average  2. The Best!  3. Above-average  4. Average  5. Above-average  6. The Best!  
#4 | 166 days ago

Go METS!!!
1. The Best!  2. Above-average  3. Above-average  4. Average  5. Above-average  6. The Best!  
#5 | 166 days ago

Giants have as good a starting rotation as any team in MLB.

As good as the starters are, the bull pen is as bad. 

They will have a harder time scoring runs than last year with Barry gone.

Batting #3...  Randy Winn.   'Nuff said.
1. Above-average  2. The Worst.  3. The Worst.  4. The Worst.  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#6 | 166 days ago

Mets.

 

Starting staff is the best anchored by Johan and Pedro. Maine will have a surprising season.

 

Bullpen, as long as they aren't overworked and come through down the stretch

 

Our line-up looks like an AL team, so here's hoping we can score like them too (but keep the pitching like an NL style)

 

Overall, here's looking at our 1st World Series title since '86

1. The Best!  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. Average  6. The Best!  
#7 | 165 days ago

+1 thumbs upThe Sox are the best until proven otherwise 160 games from now.
1. The Best!  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. The Best!  5. Above-average  6. The Best!  
#8 | 165 days ago

skipandash wrote:
The Sox are the best until proven otherwise 160 games from now.
Assuming you mean the Red Sox (there are other Sox out there, you know) you are wrong.  The Red Sox are the defending champions.  That does not mean they are the best.  Especially going into the following season.
1. Above-average  2. The Worst.  3. The Worst.  4. The Worst.  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#9 | 163 days ago

(Edited by RenegadeLG)
Rockies

#1  With Jeff Francis finally entrenched as the ace and plus arms in Jimenez and Morales it's hard to call this rotation average, regardless of who fills out the bottom after Cook.  Probably going to be Kip Wells who's had a great spring.  Jason Hirsh waiting in the wings.  Josh Fogg is the key departure here, and while he won some big games, I'm glad he's gone.

#2 Brian Fuentes made consecutive All-Star Games as a closer and is now setting up for Manny Corpas.  Pretty ridiculous.  Luis Vizcaino and Jose Cappelan's ++ arm were solid additions to go with Taylor Buchholz and whoever makes the team between Mark Redman and Josh Towers.  LaTroy Hawkins and Jeremy Affeldt bolted for the Yankees and Reds respectively.  Jokes on their new teams though, as I believe both caught the Cinderella bug last year and won't duplicate the success.

#3 Hard to argue this not being the best lineup in the National League if not the entire league.  Taveras/Podsedink, Tulowitzki, Helton, Holliday, Atkins.  Cripes.

#4 Brad Hawpe by himself makes this above average if he proves he can hit lefties, but I tempered expectations as Jayson Nix has an inconsistent stroke and has never been to the show.  Yorvit Torrealba isn't a great hitter but boy is he clutch.

#5 Set the All-Time record for team defense last year.  Troy Tulowitzki is already the best defensive SS in the game.

#6 Clearly after a trip to the World Series this is an above-average team.  However, I'm not expecting such an amazing run this time around.  Regrouping with some quality additions and staying competitive within the division will be good enough for me.

Should have added bench and farm sections as well.
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. The Best!  6. Above-average  
#10 | 163 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Giants have as good a starting rotation as any team in MLB.

As good as the starters are, the bull pen is as bad. 

They will have a harder time scoring runs than last year with Barry gone.

Batting #3...  Randy Winn.   'Nuff said.
Rowand says they'll win the division, why aren't you convinced?
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. The Best!  6. Above-average  
#11 | 163 days ago

RenegadeLG wrote:
Rowand says they'll win the division, why aren't you convinced?
Because the Giants aren't paying me $5 million a year.

If I were given a ton of money by the Giants, I'd say they would win the division too!

BTW...  I think you are seriously overestimating your team's pitching staff.  Rox have the best bats, but the throwers are not that good.

I hate to say it, (I do not like the snakes one bit) but I think the Snakes are by far the most well rounded team in the West.  Getting Haren was a huge move for them.  Gives them two top starters instead of one. 
How did the Rox improve on the mound?
1. Above-average  2. The Worst.  3. The Worst.  4. The Worst.  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#12 | 163 days ago

skipandash wrote:
The Sox are the best until proven otherwise 160 games from now.
Those are some "homer" answers you gave. Your 1-5 and 6-9 hitters are the best?! You have to be kidding?! Your starting pitching is the best too?! Currently it's Lester, Wake, Bucholtz and Dice-K. I'd take at least 5 other teams starting rotations over the Red Sox, even if Schilling and Beckett were healthy.
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Above-average  5. Average  6. The Best!  
#13 | 163 days ago

+1 thumbs upbaltimore. i voted the way i did because they SUCK!!!!!! getting rid of the owner and starting all over is the only way they will get back to what they were in the 70's and early 80's
1. The Worst.  2. The Worst.  3. Below-average  4. Below-average  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#14 | 163 days ago

(Edited by RenegadeLG)
ML31 wrote:
Because the Giants aren't paying me $5 million a year.

If I were given a ton of money by the Giants, I'd say they would win the division too!

BTW...  I think you are seriously overestimating your team's pitching staff.  Rox have the best bats, but the throwers are not that good.

I hate to say it, (I do not like the snakes one bit) but I think the Snakes are by far the most well rounded team in the West.  Getting Haren was a huge move for them.  Gives them two top starters instead of one. 
How did the Rox improve on the mound?
Ubaldo Jimenez and Franklin Morales were already two of the top pitching prospects in all of baseball.  They weren't even supposed to play last year.  They did play, and they were thrown in the middle of a highly contested Pennant race.  Fail to see how they won't improve even more given that experience.  The Rockies also had the best ERA in franchise history last year, and lost the starter with the worst numbers (Fogg).  Their ERA at Coors was better than it was on the road.  And beyond all of that, even if Francis and Jimenez weren't two of the most promising pitchers in baseball, that lineup could score 1000 runs.  They don't even need pitching.  The great pitching is bonus.

I agree about Arizona, although Billy Beane is the Kiki Vandeweghe of baseball.  He sells high and his pitchers usually flop elsewhere.  But as a Gnats fan, you were already well aware of that.
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. The Best!  6. Above-average  
#15 | 163 days ago

RenegadeLG wrote:
Ubaldo Jimenez and Franklin Morales were already two of the top pitching prospects in all of baseball.  They weren't even supposed to play last year.  They did play, and they were thrown in the middle of a highly contested Pennant race.  Fail to see how they won't improve even more given that experience.  The Rockies also had the best ERA in franchise history last year, and lost the starter with the worst numbers (Fogg).  Their ERA at Coors was better than it was on the road.  And beyond all of that, even if Francis and Jimenez weren't two of the most promising pitchers in baseball, that lineup could score 1000 runs.  They don't even need pitching.  The great pitching is bonus.

I agree about Arizona, although Billy Beane is the Kiki Vandeweghe of baseball.  He sells high and his pitchers usually flop elsewhere.  But as a Gnats fan, you were already well aware of that.
Jimenez and Morales are two HUGE question marks.  Who says that players MUST improve?  Especially pitching at Coors.
Best ERA in history.  You, a Rox fan, should know how woeful that is.

It has been proved over and over again that the Rox will not win by scoring a billion runs.  They need at least average pitchers on their staff just to compete.

My assessment...  The Rox are a total (excuse the pun) wild card.  They could compete with the Snakes for the division lead, but it is more likely they will be in #3 or #4 and be their traditional (scoring and allowing a billion runs) selves.
1. Above-average  2. The Worst.  3. The Worst.  4. The Worst.  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#16 | 163 days ago

(Edited by RenegadeLG)
ML31 wrote:
Jimenez and Morales are two HUGE question marks.  Who says that players MUST improve?  Especially pitching at Coors.
Best ERA in history.  You, a Rox fan, should know how woeful that is.

It has been proved over and over again that the Rox will not win by scoring a billion runs.  They need at least average pitchers on their staff just to compete.

My assessment...  The Rox are a total (excuse the pun) wild card.  They could compete with the Snakes for the division lead, but it is more likely they will be in #3 or #4 and be their traditional (scoring and allowing a billion runs) selves.
So I guess you're in the camp that's totally ignoring last year.  3rd or 4th?  Don't be a sheep.  Arizona, San Diego and Los Angeles all have terrible lineups.  Arizona makes up for it with 2 great starters, but they have a shaky bullpen.  Los Angeles has plus starters too but again, horrible bullpen outside of Broxton and Saito who the Dodgers often can't even make it to.  Torre is overrated.  San Diego is just awful all-around but get away with it in a profanely expansive joke of a park.

The Rockies WILL get away with outscoring people because they have the best lineup in the NL.  Can they repeat the post-season success they had last year?  Maybe not.  Probably not.  They might not even make it.  But they'll win 85-90 games and won't finish worse than second in the division. 

Morales is still a question mark, but Jimenez didn't forget how to put a triple digit fastball wherever he wants over night.  And as I stated earlier, a bullpen anchored by Fuentes and Corpas is as good as any.

I'll take outscoring people - which you apparently still refuse to believe is possible, even though last I checked the winner of a game scores more runs - over having to outpitch them any day.

And don't forget about the defense.  3 of the 5 starters are ground ball pitchers and Taveras has ridiculous range for the other 2.  And Jason Hirsh had the lowest WHIP in the NL last year before he was hurt.  Him coming back only makes things brighter.
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. The Best!  6. Above-average  
#17 | 163 days ago

RenegadeLG wrote:
So I guess you're in the camp that's totally ignoring last year.  3rd or 4th?  Don't be a sheep.  Arizona, San Diego and Los Angeles all have terrible lineups.  Arizona makes up for it with 2 great starters, but they have a shaky bullpen.  Los Angeles has plus starters too but again, horrible bullpen outside of Broxton and Saito who the Dodgers often can't even make it to.  Torre is overrated.  San Diego is just awful all-around but get away with it in a profanely expansive joke of a park.

The Rockies WILL get away with outscoring people because they have the best lineup in the NL.  Can they repeat the post-season success they had last year?  Maybe not.  Probably not.  They might not even make it.  But they'll win 85-90 games and won't finish worse than second in the division. 

Morales is still a question mark, but Jimenez didn't forget how to put a triple digit fastball wherever he wants over night.  And as I stated earlier, a bullpen anchored by Fuentes and Corpas is as good as any.

I'll take outscoring people - which you apparently still refuse to believe is possible, even though last I checked the winner of a game scores more runs - over having to outpitch them any day.

And don't forget about the defense.  3 of the 5 starters are ground ball pitchers and Taveras has ridiculous range for the other 2.  And Jason Hirsh had the lowest WHIP in the NL last year before he was hurt.  Him coming back only makes things brighter.
No, I am looking at last year.  This team was below average all year long and then went on a massive hot streak at the very very end.  It is you who are ignoring about 140 games from last year.

LA and SD have their flaws.  But so do the Rox.  The problem is, the flaws with the Rox are all on the mound.  They do indeed have the worst overall pitching in the entire division.  But no other team has the offensive thump they have.  They will have to win a lot of 9-7 ball games to win the division.  A VERY hard thing to do.

It is ironic that you call Petco a Joke of a ball park.  I've heard announcers claim that baseball at Coors is not real baseball, but 'Arena' baseball.
1. Above-average  2. The Worst.  3. The Worst.  4. The Worst.  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#18 | 163 days ago

(Edited by RenegadeLG)
ML31 wrote:
No, I am looking at last year.  This team was below average all year long and then went on a massive hot streak at the very very end.  It is you who are ignoring about 140 games from last year.

LA and SD have their flaws.  But so do the Rox.  The problem is, the flaws with the Rox are all on the mound.  They do indeed have the worst overall pitching in the entire division.  But no other team has the offensive thump they have.  They will have to win a lot of 9-7 ball games to win the division.  A VERY hard thing to do.

It is ironic that you call Petco a Joke of a ball park.  I've heard announcers claim that baseball at Coors is not real baseball, but 'Arena' baseball.
Well since you apparently haven't turned on a television or radio or whatever you have in your bomb shack in 10 years, you're ignoring the impact the humidor has had on run production at Coors Field.  And basing your opinions off of what analysts say?  You are dumb.  It's a HUGE park, holding it against the players that they play at high elevation is grasping at straws.  Takes a lack of balls and an up-to-the-throat level of biterness.  Go back to 1998 if that's all you're going to moan on about.

The Rockies have the worst pitching staff in the best pitching division and biggest parks of all of baseball.  I'll take it.

MLB/NL Ranks

ERA 14/8
WHIP 8/5
Hits Against 13/8
Walks Allowed 9/3

Yeah, we're in a bad place.  These with a half season of Ubaldo and Franklin and with Fogg gumming up the works.  And like I said, numbers were better AT COORS.

Do you have a winery for all your sour bitch grapes?
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. The Best!  6. Above-average  
#19 | 163 days ago

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?season=2007

Check out ESPN's Park Factor.  The Rockies are 3-5 in everything, but if you know anything about Math you'll realize what a huge improvement that is when just 10 years ago they were absolutely running away with the same stats.
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. The Best!  6. Above-average  
#20 | 163 days ago

RenegadeLG wrote:
Well since you apparently haven't turned on a television or radio or whatever you have in your bomb shack in 10 years, you're ignoring the impact the humidor has had on run production at Coors Field.  And basing your opinions off of what analysts say?  You are dumb.  It's a HUGE park, holding it against the players that they play at high elevation is grasping at straws.  Takes a lack of balls and an up-to-the-throat level of biterness.  Go back to 1998 if that's all you're going to moan on about.

The Rockies have the worst pitching staff in the best pitching division and biggest parks of all of baseball.  I'll take it.

MLB/NL Ranks

ERA 14/8
WHIP 8/5
Hits Against 13/8
Walks Allowed 9/3

Yeah, we're in a bad place.  These with a half season of Ubaldo and Franklin and with Fogg gumming up the works.  And like I said, numbers were better AT COORS.

Do you have a winery for all your sour bitch grapes?
No sour grapes here.

You were the one who called Petco a joke.  What, did the Rox lose too many games there or something?  Parks are what they are.  Stop whining about it.

At least the Padres don't have to alter how the ball is stored in an attempt to make the yard more normal.

Obviously it is not what analysists say.  All one has to do is look at runs scored at Coors compared to, well...  Everywhere else.  Either the park is abnormally offensive, or the Rox have the worst pitching known to man.  And it is probably both.

Stop moaning.  Man up.  Admit what it is.
1. Above-average  2. The Worst.  3. The Worst.  4. The Worst.  5. Average  6. Below-average  
#21 | 163 days ago

(Edited by RenegadeLG)
ML31 wrote:
No sour grapes here.

You were the one who called Petco a joke.  What, did the Rox lose too many games there or something?  Parks are what they are.  Stop whining about it.

At least the Padres don't have to alter how the ball is stored in an attempt to make the yard more normal.

Obviously it is not what analysists say.  All one has to do is look at runs scored at Coors compared to, well...  Everywhere else.  Either the park is abnormally offensive, or the Rox have the worst pitching known to man.  And it is probably both.

Stop moaning.  Man up.  Admit what it is.
Wow, Bitchy McBitcherson, you are a walking contradiction.  "Parks are what they are."  That sandwiched between ripping Coors to shreds.  Look at the numbers.  Why aren't the Rockies last in every pitching category.  Why aren't they even close?  And why are their numbers better AT COORS? You call Coors Field a joke and then rip them for improving the situation with the humidor, then ignore the numbers. Start renting a storage shed, your Douche of the Day awards are about to come busting through the garage door.
1. Above-average  2. Above-average  3. The Best!  4. Average  5. The Best!  6. Above-average  
#22 | 163 days ago