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Should Hornish Jr Get A Free Pass?
| Closed on 02/17/08 at 01:00PM
FanIQ Pts? No | NASCAR, Kurt Busch | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll
Teams:  Kurt Busch
Team Breakout:
20 Fans 
10%a. Yes (explain)
90%b. No (explain)

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#3 | 341 days ago

+5 thumbs up

no more top 35

no more past champions provisional

no "guarantees" for qualifying

 

Anyone remember when Jeff Burton was 4th in the standings one year and missed the spring Darlington race?  He was already out of provisionals for the year and he didn't qualify well, so he missed the race.  I don't care about making the sponsors happy.  I've said it countless times before, you shouldn't get any special treatment.  If Dale Jr. and Jeff Gordon qualify 47th & 49th out of 50 drivers, they don't make the race, case closed.

No (explain)  
  
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#1 | 341 days ago

+4 thumbs upAbolish the ridiculous top 35 rule. Problem solved.
#2 | 341 days ago

+1 thumbs updo i agree with it no, is this something that has been going on with teams for several years, yes.. Kurt, is almost guarunteed being able to qualify well for the races, so why not swap top 35 for your new team mate.. like i said i dont agree with it but what can you do.. its allowed in the rules..  but i really think thy need to do away with the top 35 rule..
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#3 | 341 days ago

+5 thumbs up

no more top 35

no more past champions provisional

no "guarantees" for qualifying

 

Anyone remember when Jeff Burton was 4th in the standings one year and missed the spring Darlington race?  He was already out of provisionals for the year and he didn't qualify well, so he missed the race.  I don't care about making the sponsors happy.  I've said it countless times before, you shouldn't get any special treatment.  If Dale Jr. and Jeff Gordon qualify 47th & 49th out of 50 drivers, they don't make the race, case closed.

No (explain)  
#4 | 341 days ago

+1 thumbs upi totally agree with you.. you dont qualify you dont make the race.. plain and simple..
Yes (explain)  
#5 | 340 days ago

+2 thumbs upI like the part in the article that says : "If Tiger Woods tanks in the first two rounds of a golf tournament, the PGA doesn't have a set of rules to keep him around for the weekend. He's sent packing."

I'm a golf fan and I like to watch Tiger Woods, the guy is amazing, but if he doesn't perform well enough to get himself to play on the weekend, then he doesn't need to be there. I think it should be the same way with NASCAR. That would definitely make things alot more interesting. The other thing I don't like is when qualifying is running and some of the go or go homers qualify what looks like 10th per say, and they don't make the show because of the way it is set up with the Top 35 already making it. It happened at the second Talladega race. There were quite a few guys that didn't qualify because of the position the were in coming in, but had top 10-15 runs. For instance, Kurt Busch qualified 41st, but had it not been him being in the top 35, he wouldn't have made the race based on his qualifying run.
No (explain)  
#6 | 340 days ago

+1 thumbs upIf its the rule, why shouldn't he?  There's worse drivers already locked in the top 35.
Yes (explain)  
#7 | 340 days ago

kantwistaye wrote:
If its the rule, why shouldn't he?  There's worse drivers already locked in the top 35.
+2 thumbs upThat's the problem, the rule is completely screwed up.  Hornish missed how many races in 2007 when he tried to qualify in the 06 car?  I know of at least 3 he missed.  I don't care if you won the Indy 500, the Daytona 500, an F1 championship, or what your last name is, if you don't qualify in the first 43 positions on Friday, you should be sent home to watch the race in your living room.
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#8 | 340 days ago

exactally.. dont qualify, you go home.. do away with the top 35.. it would be awesome to see some of the big names go home because they didnt qualify well.. or even if you wreck during qualifying, you go home to..
Yes (explain)  
#9 | 340 days ago

kramer wrote:
That's the problem, the rule is completely screwed up.  Hornish missed how many races in 2007 when he tried to qualify in the 06 car?  I know of at least 3 he missed.  I don't care if you won the Indy 500, the Daytona 500, an F1 championship, or what your last name is, if you don't qualify in the first 43 positions on Friday, you should be sent home to watch the race in your living room.
+1 thumbs upHow many races did he miss solely because of the top 35 rule (I don't know. I'm just curious)?
#10 | 340 days ago

gearhead wrote:
How many races did he miss solely because of the top 35 rule (I don't know. I'm just curious)?
+1 thumbs upHe didn't qualify well at all, that's my point.  Giving him owners points from the 2 car will give him the advantage of making the first 5 races of 2008 no matter what he does.  He can crash out of the Twin 150s, spin out in California on his qualifying lap, and be 49th fastest in the next 3 races, and he will still make it.  He couldn't do very well at qualifying.  He's now guaranteed to qualify even though every time he tried in 2007 he sucked at it.
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#11 | 340 days ago

kramer wrote:
He didn't qualify well at all, that's my point.  Giving him owners points from the 2 car will give him the advantage of making the first 5 races of 2008 no matter what he does.  He can crash out of the Twin 150s, spin out in California on his qualifying lap, and be 49th fastest in the next 3 races, and he will still make it.  He couldn't do very well at qualifying.  He's now guaranteed to qualify even though every time he tried in 2007 he sucked at it.
+1 thumbs upYou didn't answer my question.
#12 | 340 days ago

gearhead wrote:
You didn't answer my question.
+1 thumbs upHad the top 35 rule not been in place, he still never would have qualified if I remember correctly.  He did very poorly when he went out for his qualifying attempts.  Now that he has the #2's owner points from 2007, he doesn't have to worry about his qualifying issues, and that's where the problem lies.  He's guaranteed to make the first 5 races even if he spins out in all 5 attempts, or can't post anywhere better than 44th, and the latter is what he did in at least his first 3 attempts.  The top 35 rule has hurt some drivers, namely Boris Said twice this year, but Hornish would've had to qualify somewhat decent for it to even matter, and he didn't do it.
No (explain)  
#13 | 340 days ago

kramer wrote:
Had the top 35 rule not been in place, he still never would have qualified if I remember correctly.  He did very poorly when he went out for his qualifying attempts.  Now that he has the #2's owner points from 2007, he doesn't have to worry about his qualifying issues, and that's where the problem lies.  He's guaranteed to make the first 5 races even if he spins out in all 5 attempts, or can't post anywhere better than 44th, and the latter is what he did in at least his first 3 attempts.  The top 35 rule has hurt some drivers, namely Boris Said twice this year, but Hornish would've had to qualify somewhat decent for it to even matter, and he didn't do it.
+3 thumbs upI just checked. Without the top 35 rule, Hornish would have made Atlanta (35th), Dover (42nd), Talladega (17th), and Martinsville (38th). So, he would've been 6 for 8 instead 2 of 8. Even if had made all of the races, finishing top 35 would've been impossible. I'm not surprised Penske did this, because it's Roger Penske.

I still don't know what to think of Hornish. I'm pretty much screwed either way. If he does well, they will entice more open wheelers to defect. If he does poorly, it will increase the superiority complex most NASCAR fans have. Plus, I think (and always thought) he's a d-bag. It's a pretty crappy situation from my end.

BTW, I know how the top 35 rule works. I did not need an explanation. Thank you.