+1 I am not exactly sure where this Poll is going, but The Chicago Blackhawks have the coolest uniform in sports period, White or Red, and hopefully they will become a great team again to match those awesome Uni's
The sticks are longer tho creating more torque when sticken against something.
That sounds like a good piece of scientific evidence, I wonder if its true.
+1 I'm thinking if I get challenged to a duel and these are the weapons available- I'm going with the old Lousiville Slugger. wait- no. guess I'd probably run for my life.
And, much like the Yankees, they buy championships.
I've already argued this before somewhere else, so I'm not going to do it in full scale again. Ken Holland drafts and trades people. They do not merely go out and sign an all star team. Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen (just to name a few were all drafted). And guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg were picked up in the 6th and 7th round. Guys like Hull, Hasek and Robitaille(sp?) were just icing on the cake, much of what Hossa may become.
I've already argued this before somewhere else, so I'm not going to do it in full scale again. Ken Holland drafts and trades people. They do not merely go out and sign an all star team. Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen (just to name a few were all drafted). And guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg were picked up in the 6th and 7th round. Guys like Hull, Hasek and Robitaille(sp?) were just icing on the cake, much of what Hossa may become.
When future HOFers are "icing on the cake", then yes, you buy championships. Thanks for proving my point for me.
When future HOFers are "icing on the cake", then yes, you buy championships. Thanks for proving my point for me.
+1 So aquiring a few players through free-agency is BUYING championships? The Red Sox DEFINETELY have never done that. All of their players were drafted and developed by the Sox organiziation right?
When future HOFers are "icing on the cake", then yes, you buy championships. Thanks for proving my point for me.
If you want to put it that way, just don't compare them to the yankees. Every team needs a player or two to get them over the hump, thats what free agency is for. If I remember correctly your Red Sox payed $52 million just to talk to Daisuke, then signed him for another outrageous amount. JD Drew was another free agency acquisition. That's about as many free agent signings as Detroit makes a year. The Yankees try to build a team of all stars from free agency alone...they have no core team already.
And, much like the Yankees, they buy championships.
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This argument is old and tired, bu more importantly inaccurate. The Yankees team of the late 90's which won four titles was built like all other championship teams are built, through a combination of home-grown talent and savvy trades and free agent acquisitions. The Red Sox are just as guilty of "buying championships" as any team. The term buying championships is a bunch of horses**t perpetrated by crybaby Yankee haters. Go ahead and egg me on on this one, make me prove my point, believe me you don't want me to.
If you want to put it that way, just don't compare them to the yankees. Every team needs a player or two to get them over the hump, thats what free agency is for. If I remember correctly your Red Sox payed $52 million just to talk to Daisuke, then signed him for another outrageous amount. JD Drew was another free agency acquisition. That's about as many free agent signings as Detroit makes a year. The Yankees try to build a team of all stars from free agency alone...they have no core team already.
+2 That was good up until your last statement. The Yankees title teams were built on a core of homegrown talent. This year's addition boasts more starters from the farm system than 90% of the teams in baseball. The idea of "buying championships" holds no water. It is pettiness personified.
That was good up until your last statement. The Yankees title teams were built on a core of homegrown talent. This year's addition boasts more starters from the farm system than 90% of the teams in baseball. The idea of "buying championships" holds no water. It is pettiness personified.
"This year's addition boasts more starters from the farm system than 90% of the teams in baseball"
And this year's team is in 3rd place, and doesn't show much hope for playing in October.
If you want to put it that way, just don't compare them to the yankees. Every team needs a player or two to get them over the hump, thats what free agency is for. If I remember correctly your Red Sox payed $52 million just to talk to Daisuke, then signed him for another outrageous amount. JD Drew was another free agency acquisition. That's about as many free agent signings as Detroit makes a year. The Yankees try to build a team of all stars from free agency alone...they have no core team already.
Are you comparing Daisuke and JD Drew to Hull and Hasek? Let's be serious... Hull and Hasek are future Hall of Famers. Matsuzaka and Drew are far from it. You'd be better off comparing guys like Jason Giambi, Johnny Damon, Mike Mussina, Gary Sheffield, Kevin Brown, David Wells... the list goes on and on...
This argument is old and tired, bu more importantly inaccurate. The Yankees team of the late 90's which won four titles was built like all other championship teams are built, through a combination of home-grown talent and savvy trades and free agent acquisitions. The Red Sox are just as guilty of "buying championships" as any team. The term buying championships is a bunch of horses**t perpetrated by crybaby Yankee haters. Go ahead and egg me on on this one, make me prove my point, believe me you don't want me to.
And to be honest, I don't care which point you decide you want to prove. You already dared me to make my point about Gehrig over Ruth, and you never responded. I was actually looking forward to that, since you usually post pretty impressive arguments. I always welcome your thoughts on all subjects where we disagree.
"This year's addition boasts more starters from the farm system than 90% of the teams in baseball"
And this year's team is in 3rd place, and doesn't show much hope for playing in October.
That's not the point, and your pettiness continues. What happened, you used to be up for rational debate?
And to your response to rootman, what about Manny, Ortiz, Schilling, Pedro
And also of note is only one of the Yankees you mentioned played on a championship team... the Red Sox list goes on and on too, I just mentioned some of the perennial All-Stars.
And to be honest, I don't care which point you decide you want to prove. You already dared me to make my point about Gehrig over Ruth, and you never responded. I was actually looking forward to that, since you usually post pretty impressive arguments. I always welcome your thoughts on all subjects where we disagree.
I didn't have to respond to that. My point was made in my initial post. Nothing you said trumped that. I'm not a last word kind of guy.
That's not the point, and your pettiness continues. What happened, you used to be up for rational debate?
And to your response to rootman, what about Manny, Ortiz, Schilling, Pedro
And also of note is only one of the Yankees you mentioned played on a championship team... the Red Sox list goes on and on too, I just mentioned some of the perennial All-Stars.
Manny was in response to the Yankees signing of Mussina.
Pedro was acquired via trade.
Ortiz was taken off of Minnesota's scrap heap, and could have been signed by ANY team, for a rather low salary.
But, if you really want to play this game, Irabu, Pavano, El Duque, Stanton, Matsui, Boggs.
At least the Sox sign GOOD players...
That's not the point, and your pettiness continues. What happened, you used to be up for rational debate?
And to your response to rootman, what about Manny, Ortiz, Schilling, Pedro
And also of note is only one of the Yankees you mentioned played on a championship team... the Red Sox list goes on and on too, I just mentioned some of the perennial All-Stars.
And yes, it IS the point. The Yankees, when they were winning championships, did so because they were buying their championships. Now, they've strayed from that strategy, and they're not going to win.
Remember... re-signing guys like A-Rod and Jeter to exorbitant contracts isn't all that different from buying free agents. It's not about who you draft. If that was all that mattered, then the Expos would still be in Montreal. But since, due largely to the trickle-down affect of the Yankees' ridiculous spending habits, they couldn't afford to keep guys like Randy Johnson, Vladimir Guerrerro, Larry Walker, Pedro Martinez, etc, their franchise was essentially destroyed.
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