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Was Mike Mussina Snubbed?

As a Yankees fan and looking at his numbers, I don't see it as, "OMG! How did Mike NOT make the team?" I see it more as, "Better luck next year."

 

I love Mike, but a ton of Yankees fans are complaining on how he didn't make the team, and I just wanted to see other opinions.

| Closed on 08/08/08 at 05:00PM
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Team Breakout:
45 Fans 
16%a. Yes he really should be on the Allstar team
53%b. Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.
16%c. No he didn't deserve to be there at all
9%d. No he was just out IMO.
7%e. other (please explain)

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#4 | 60 days ago

chad_is_god wrote:
And that would be something I could see Jeter doing, but not this year! Jeter really wanted to go to the allstar game this year mainly due to the situation (Last year at Yankee Stadium and that's where the AS game is). Now if you really want someone off the team IMO it should be Jason Varitek (pardon my spelling) because he's batting what .200?
+3 thumbs upYou could see Jeter doing that? I'm going to call BS on that one. I know you have a bigger mancrush on Jeter than I do on Tom Brady, but be serious. Has he EVER shown ANY signs whatsoever that he would do something like that? If he was that great of a teammate, he would have moved to 2B when ARod showed up, since Alex was clearly the better SS. But Jeter's all about himself, so he'd never do that... just like he'd never give up his All-Star spot to another teammate who clearly deserves it more. But then again... neither would anyone else. So who cares?
No he was just out IMO.  
  
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#1 | 60 days ago

+1 thumbs upHis numbers are worthy.  But nobody feels sympathy for a Yankee that doesn't make the team when players like Derek Jeter make it and have no business there.  Jeter should give his spot to the Moose. That would be stand-up in my book!
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#2 | 60 days ago

derms33 wrote:
His numbers are worthy.  But nobody feels sympathy for a Yankee that doesn't make the team when players like Derek Jeter make it and have no business there.  Jeter should give his spot to the Moose. That would be stand-up in my book!
+2 thumbs upAnd that would be something I could see Jeter doing, but not this year! Jeter really wanted to go to the allstar game this year mainly due to the situation (Last year at Yankee Stadium and that's where the AS game is). Now if you really want someone off the team IMO it should be Jason Varitek (pardon my spelling) because he's batting what .200?
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#3 | 60 days ago

Mussina is not a snub, but with the season he's had so far an argument can be made for him.  Like I said in another thread he is a sentimental favorite of mine, from his Baltimore days, and so I would have liked to have seen him there.  That said I can't argue with any of the choices Francona made to fill out the roster.

 

other (please explain)  
#4 | 60 days ago

chad_is_god wrote:
And that would be something I could see Jeter doing, but not this year! Jeter really wanted to go to the allstar game this year mainly due to the situation (Last year at Yankee Stadium and that's where the AS game is). Now if you really want someone off the team IMO it should be Jason Varitek (pardon my spelling) because he's batting what .200?
+3 thumbs upYou could see Jeter doing that? I'm going to call BS on that one. I know you have a bigger mancrush on Jeter than I do on Tom Brady, but be serious. Has he EVER shown ANY signs whatsoever that he would do something like that? If he was that great of a teammate, he would have moved to 2B when ARod showed up, since Alex was clearly the better SS. But Jeter's all about himself, so he'd never do that... just like he'd never give up his All-Star spot to another teammate who clearly deserves it more. But then again... neither would anyone else. So who cares?
No he was just out IMO.  
#5 | 60 days ago

 I don't think he was snubbd I just think he has been going on the downside of his career at his age, but is having a really good season and no one is really noticing outside of New York. I have always liked Mike.
other (please explain)  
#6 | 60 days ago

chad_is_god wrote:
And that would be something I could see Jeter doing, but not this year! Jeter really wanted to go to the allstar game this year mainly due to the situation (Last year at Yankee Stadium and that's where the AS game is). Now if you really want someone off the team IMO it should be Jason Varitek (pardon my spelling) because he's batting what .200?
+2 thumbs upJeters numbers are not nearly good enough to start and his defense is subpar...but as for the Varitek comment, come on, Do you really think I think he deserves to go?  He shouldn't even be in the majors with his numbers!
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#7 | 60 days ago

irbe38 wrote:
 I don't think he was snubbd I just think he has been going on the downside of his career at his age, but is having a really good season and no one is really noticing outside of New York. I have always liked Mike.
+2 thumbs upDid You always wanna be like him too?  A lot of People Did!
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#8 | 60 days ago

Pat wrote:
You could see Jeter doing that? I'm going to call BS on that one. I know you have a bigger mancrush on Jeter than I do on Tom Brady, but be serious. Has he EVER shown ANY signs whatsoever that he would do something like that? If he was that great of a teammate, he would have moved to 2B when ARod showed up, since Alex was clearly the better SS. But Jeter's all about himself, so he'd never do that... just like he'd never give up his All-Star spot to another teammate who clearly deserves it more. But then again... neither would anyone else. So who cares?

"I know you have a bigger mancrush on Jeter than I do on Tom Brady,"

now lets be honest, we both know that ain't true, nor is it even possible.

 

"If he was that great of a teammate, he would have moved to 2B when ARod showed up,"

IMO, and apparently the Yankees' opinion, seniority rules. Besides the fact that if Jeter moves to 2b, who playes third? not that you care I'm just making a point. Also if Jeter plays 2b, then Cano doesn't exist....now where's the fun in that?

"just like he'd never give up his All-Star spot to another teammate who clearly deserves it more. But then again... neither would anyone else. So who cares?"

now this makes sense!

Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#9 | 60 days ago

chad_is_god wrote:

"I know you have a bigger mancrush on Jeter than I do on Tom Brady,"

now lets be honest, we both know that ain't true, nor is it even possible.

 

"If he was that great of a teammate, he would have moved to 2B when ARod showed up,"

IMO, and apparently the Yankees' opinion, seniority rules. Besides the fact that if Jeter moves to 2b, who playes third? not that you care I'm just making a point. Also if Jeter plays 2b, then Cano doesn't exist....now where's the fun in that?

"just like he'd never give up his All-Star spot to another teammate who clearly deserves it more. But then again... neither would anyone else. So who cares?"

now this makes sense!

+1 thumbs upSeniority rules? That's ridiculous... what happened to skill? If A-Rod were the Yankees' shortstop, they would have won at least one WS since his arrival.
No he was just out IMO.  
#10 | 60 days ago

+2 thumbs upVaritek doesn't deserve to be on a Little League All-Star team let alone the MLB's A.L. All-Star team. Mussina deserves it way more than Varitek does.
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#11 | 60 days ago

Pat wrote:
Seniority rules? That's ridiculous... what happened to skill? If A-Rod were the Yankees' shortstop, they would have won at least one WS since his arrival.
i highly doubt one minor movement makes that much of a difference especially given his lack of production in the playoffs. I have said it before and i will say it again. The New York Yankees (as much as i hope i am wrong here) will NOT win a WS with Alex Rodriguez. PERIOD
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#12 | 60 days ago

TheChad81578 wrote:
Varitek doesn't deserve to be on a Little League All-Star team let alone the MLB's A.L. All-Star team. Mussina deserves it way more than Varitek does.
+1 thumbs upYeah, but Mussina can't really catch, so it's a moot point. If you want to whine about Mussina not making it, pick a pitcher to replace with him, not a catcher.
No he was just out IMO.  
#13 | 60 days ago

Pat wrote:
Yeah, but Mussina can't really catch, so it's a moot point. If you want to whine about Mussina not making it, pick a pitcher to replace with him, not a catcher.
How about the back up catcher for the red sox? lol im jk
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#14 | 60 days ago

Pat wrote:
Yeah, but Mussina can't really catch, so it's a moot point. If you want to whine about Mussina not making it, pick a pitcher to replace with him, not a catcher.
I bet Moose could if he had to. He does have 6 gold gloves to his credit. Okay, how's this? I'll take any A.L. catcher over Varitek than. They all deserve it more than him. "Tek" has the lowest AVG of any catcher in baseball, min. 180 at-bats (as of yesterday). That's A.L. & N.L. catchers. Lowest. Both leagues. I'd ask Rich Gedman to represent the Sox over Varitek. Gedman has contributed as much as Varitek this year, which is nothing.
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#15 | 59 days ago

TheChad81578 wrote:
I bet Moose could if he had to. He does have 6 gold gloves to his credit. Okay, how's this? I'll take any A.L. catcher over Varitek than. They all deserve it more than him. "Tek" has the lowest AVG of any catcher in baseball, min. 180 at-bats (as of yesterday). That's A.L. & N.L. catchers. Lowest. Both leagues. I'd ask Rich Gedman to represent the Sox over Varitek. Gedman has contributed as much as Varitek this year, which is nothing.
There you go... much better. I think you're stretching it a bit, because I think that there are a few other things to consider, other than batting average, but at least you're making a sensible argument now.
No he was just out IMO.  
#16 | 56 days ago

chad_is_god wrote:
And that would be something I could see Jeter doing, but not this year! Jeter really wanted to go to the allstar game this year mainly due to the situation (Last year at Yankee Stadium and that's where the AS game is). Now if you really want someone off the team IMO it should be Jason Varitek (pardon my spelling) because he's batting what .200?
Varitek might even be below the Mendoza line. Nice vote-in there Sox fans!
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#17 | 56 days ago

bboymaestro wrote:
Varitek might even be below the Mendoza line. Nice vote-in there Sox fans!
+2 thumbs upSox fans? Varitek was voted in by the players... are you saying that the entire American League is just a bunch of Red Sox fans?

Wow...interesting... stick to the facts, please.
No he was just out IMO.  
#18 | 56 days ago

Pat wrote:
Sox fans? Varitek was voted in by the players... are you saying that the entire American League is just a bunch of Red Sox fans?

Wow...interesting... stick to the facts, please.
Not that interesting...
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#19 | 56 days ago

bboymaestro wrote:
Not that interesting...
Clearly it's not. I was being sarcastic, in reference to your previous uninformed statement, which insinuated some sort of biased ballot-stuffing by Red Sox fans, which was simply not the case.
No he was just out IMO.  
#20 | 56 days ago

bboymaestro wrote:
Varitek might even be below the Mendoza line. Nice vote-in there Sox fans!
+1 thumbs upto be honest with you i would be ten times less shocked if the fans actually voted him in...but truth is the players voted in Varitek.

I mean there have been many snubs for this allstar game, and tons of players who dont belong.

Example: Tejada, wtf is this guy doing batting .270 and OBP of .340?

Reyes is batting over .300 and OBP is .390....seriously its not even close!

And then there's the best all around Third baseman in the league getting out voted by Armiz Ramirez? C'mon now!
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#21 | 56 days ago

Yes he probably should be on the All-Star team because this is most liekly the last time he will have numbers like this before the all star break ever. Also the sad thing is he is a Yankee player and didnt make it when A-Rod and Derek Jeter made it when the didnt have seasons that should of even been considered all star performers.
Yes he really should be on the Allstar team  
#22 | 56 days ago

jtm25 wrote:
Yes he probably should be on the All-Star team because this is most liekly the last time he will have numbers like this before the all star break ever. Also the sad thing is he is a Yankee player and didnt make it when A-Rod and Derek Jeter made it when the didnt have seasons that should of even been considered all star performers.
+2 thumbs up

Are you serious?! Jeter maybe... but A-Rod? He missed a ton of time and amongst A.L. third baseman: He's 1st in HR, 5th in RBI, 2nd in AVG, 2nd in runs scored, 1st in SB, 1st in OBP, 1st in SLG, etc. What more do you want the guy to do?!

Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#23 | 56 days ago

chad_is_god wrote:
to be honest with you i would be ten times less shocked if the fans actually voted him in...but truth is the players voted in Varitek.

I mean there have been many snubs for this allstar game, and tons of players who dont belong.

Example: Tejada, wtf is this guy doing batting .270 and OBP of .340?

Reyes is batting over .300 and OBP is .390....seriously its not even close!

And then there's the best all around Third baseman in the league getting out voted by Armiz Ramirez? C'mon now!
I couldn't agree with you more!
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#24 | 56 days ago

Pat wrote:
Clearly it's not. I was being sarcastic, in reference to your previous uninformed statement, which insinuated some sort of biased ballot-stuffing by Red Sox fans, which was simply not the case.
+1 thumbs upI didn't suggest "biased ballot-stuffing by Red Sox fans" with Varitek, however, Pedroia over Kinsler? That's SICK! A whole other thread though...
Yeah, he has good numbers, but its not the biggest snub.  
#25 | 55 days ago

bboymaestro wrote:
I didn't suggest "biased ballot-stuffing by Red Sox fans" with Varitek, however, Pedroia over Kinsler? That's SICK! A whole other thread though...
"Nice vote-in there Sox fans!" - You
Seems to me that you at least implied it. Bottom line is, Sox fans had nothing to do with it, regardless.

And anyway, if you're going to whine about one of your beloved Rangers not getting enough votes, why not start with Michael Young? He's far superior to Jeter in every way. At least Pedroia's actually having an excellent year. Jeter's season is in the gutter, and he still got voted in by the idiot fans.
No he was just out IMO.  
#26 | 55 days ago

Pat wrote:
"Nice vote-in there Sox fans!" - You
Seems to me that you at least implied it. Bottom line is, Sox fans had nothing to do with it, regardless.

And anyway, if you're going to whine about one of your beloved Rangers not getting enough votes, why not start with Michael Young? He's far superior to Jeter in every way. At least Pedroia's actually having an excellent year. Jeter's season is in the gutter, and he still got voted in by the idiot fans.
+2 thumbs upIf you would actually get around to other threads you would see I have made the po