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Whats the call?
Recently there was a contoversial play that took place during one of my high school games. I was catching, there were two outs, and two strikes on the batter, I called for an outside fastball... the pitch was wild, the batter swung, strike three, i blocked the ball, it bounced off of my chest towards my left, the batter threw his bat and proceeded running to first. I went to play the ball, when i kneeled to grab it the bat smacked the ball, altering its course. The contact was inadvertant, the batter did not try to hit the ball. I was still able to field the ball, and threw to first, our first baseman did not make the catch, and the runner was safe. I felt that the ball was dead when the bat hit it, and so did my coach. The umpires (who were very puzzled by the play) stood speechless for a while, and our coach debated the call with the other coach. The clueless umpires had no idea, so they decided to disregard the play, and called the batter safe. Our coach went and studied the MHSAA rule book, he could not find an answer to the play, and the umpires told us that they would check it out, i really doubt that they actually did. Im asking you all to voice your opinions, what do you think the call is?
| Closed on 06/12/08 at 05:00PM
FanIQ Pts? No | HS Baseball, Michigan*, Michigan* | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll
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55%a. The ball is dead, and the batter is out.
45%b. The umpires call was correct.
0%c. Other (Please specify)

  
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#1 | 109 days ago

+2 thumbs upI believe that even though the bat hitting the ball was accidental, it still interfered with the play, because the batter-runner dropped it there.  If it was the splintered end of a broken bat, that would be a different story.  But in my personal opinion, I think he should be called out.  But since there was no rule to be found for this situation, it was perfectly fine for the umpire to leave it to his own discretion.  Once again though, if they make an official rule for this in the future, I think the rule should be for the batter to be out.
The ball is dead, and the batter is out.  
#2 | 108 days ago

It's all about the inadvertent issue.  If it was inadvertent, he's safe.  Just like trying to break up a double play...if you slide into the second baseman to break up the play and make it look inadvertent, it's okay.  If you deliberately interfere (such as sliding in awkwardly), you're gone.  Running outside the baseline...everyone does it while rounding the bases...it's okay...until you deliberately are trying to get away from a tag.
The umpires call was correct.  
#3 | 108 days ago

theshrewdone wrote:
It's all about the inadvertent issue.  If it was inadvertent, he's safe.  Just like trying to break up a double play...if you slide into the second baseman to break up the play and make it look inadvertent, it's okay.  If you deliberately interfere (such as sliding in awkwardly), you're gone.  Running outside the baseline...everyone does it while rounding the bases...it's okay...until you deliberately are trying to get away from a tag.
Yeah, that's true.  I'm sure it wasn't on purpose, I've just never thought of this case before.  It's amazing that you can watch baseball for years, and still see something you've never seen before each time.
The ball is dead, and the batter is out.  
#4 | 105 days ago

+1 thumbs upI think i'll look it up in the casebookfor national federation and get back on this one.  Interference or obstruction does not necessarily have to be intentional to exist.  In my mind the bat may have created an obstruction.  Wish i could have seen the play though.  One other thing, Michigan has many different rules for high school baseball like 2 strikes is an out or 3 balls for a walk (or they used to play those rules).
The ball is dead, and the batter is out.  
#5 | 82 days ago

In my opinion it is like anything that is inadvertent or unintentional. For example if it was your catcher's mask on a foul ball that would have interfered with play it would be considered part of field and normal play would resume. It is a judgement issue on whether it is or was intentional. Umpire's call I believe was correct call
The umpires call was correct.  
#6 | 81 days ago

SOS wrote:
In my opinion it is like anything that is inadvertent or unintentional. For example if it was your catcher's mask on a foul ball that would have interfered with play it would be considered part of field and normal play would resume. It is a judgement issue on whether it is or was intentional. Umpire's call I believe was correct call
   Go back and check on hitter's need to make every effort to get the bat out or the field of play.  I don't have my old books with me but I seem to remember some such direction that the bat should not be in the field of play.  Hence, if a ball is misdirected IN the field of play the play in question is dead.
The ball is dead, and the batter is out.  
#7 | 81 days ago

Michael wrote:
   Go back and check on hitter's need to make every effort to get the bat out or the field of play.  I don't have my old books with me but I seem to remember some such direction that the bat should not be in the field of play.  Hence, if a ball is misdirected IN the field of play the play in question is dead.
I sure will but it will be in a lil while Now you really have me interested
The umpires call was correct.  

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