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Who Is Better, Tony Romo or Ben Roethlisberger?
The Super Bowl is coming up soon, which QB is better?
 
 
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#1 | 23 days ago

It's never Romo.
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#2 | 23 days ago

Haha, not Tony Romo.
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#3 | 23 days ago

What rhymes with Romo.
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#4 | 23 days ago

*edited to opinion poll*
 
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#6 | 23 days ago

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kramer wrote:
*edited to opinion poll*
 
THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN COMPARE THE 2   ROTHLISBERGER HAS WON 2 SUPERBOWLS......  TONY ROMO CANT EVEN WIN A PLAYOFF GAME. CANT EVEN GET IN THE PLAYOFFS HALF THE TIME.... GIVE ME A BREAK!
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#8 | 23 days ago

SaintDrew wrote:
wow, it's the battle of the NFL's two most overrated QBs.
Saints will never win the super bowl!!Saints way!!!!!!!!!!!!!overrated!!!
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#9 | 23 days ago

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SaintDrew wrote:
wow, it's the battle of the NFL's two most overrated QBs.
Well you got half of it right!
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#10 | 23 days ago

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SaintDrew wrote:
wow, it's the battle of the NFL's two most overrated QBs.
Well you got half of it right!
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#11 | 22 days ago

Steelersfan812 wrote:
Saints will never win the super bowl!!Saints way!!!!!!!!!!!!!overrated!!!
Ummm have you been watching the Saints play this year? Please tell me exactly how they are overrated. Breesus has led them to 6-0 record, winning at home and on the road, blowing teams out, winning with defense, and mounting a huge comeback. You might not like the Saints, and you might not think they will win the Super Bowl, but they are not overrated and you should certainly respect them. Go ahead and be a punk though. Next.
#12 | 22 days ago

SaintDrew wrote:
Ummm have you been watching the Saints play this year? Please tell me exactly how they are overrated. Breesus has led them to 6-0 record, winning at home and on the road, blowing teams out, winning with defense, and mounting a huge comeback. You might not like the Saints, and you might not think they will win the Super Bowl, but they are not overrated and you should certainly respect them. Go ahead and be a punk though. Next.
were you calling me a punk if you were their was no since just because i didn't ay anything but the saints. I didn't say if i liked em ur not .
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#13 | 22 days ago

The only people who would say Tony is better are Dallas fans.Ben has the records and the hardware not to mention the rings.You can't call yourself a true football fan and say in the same breath that Tony Romo is the better QB.
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#14 | 22 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
were you calling me a punk if you were their was no since just because i didn't ay anything but the saints. I didn't say if i liked em ur not .
He wasn't calling YOU a punk unless you have another account, which is illegal on FanIQ.
 
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#15 | 22 days ago

Tony Romo is too much of a cry baby Comparing Big Ben to Romo is like comparing Johnny Unitas to Danny White There is no comparision
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#16 | 22 days ago

kramer wrote:
He wasn't calling YOU a punk unless you have another account, which is illegal on FanIQ.
 
BERGER 2 RINGS TO NOTHING AND IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY ROMO COST THE COWBOYS A SB TRIP NO T.O. NO MORE ROMO EXCUSES
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#17 | 22 days ago

kramer wrote:
He wasn't calling YOU a punk unless you have another account, which is illegal on FanIQ.
 
i dont have another account
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#18 | 22 days ago

bigdaddyofthemall200 wrote:
BERGER 2 RINGS TO NOTHING AND IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY ROMO COST THE COWBOYS A SB TRIP NO T.O. NO MORE ROMO EXCUSES
yea i know and the cowboys are stupid for getting rid of t.o. and if you want my opinion romo sucks but i still like the cowboys
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#19 | 22 days ago

I would rather take alot more QB's over these two..But Big ben is definatly the lesser or two evils.
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#20 | 22 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
yea i know and the cowboys are stupid for getting rid of t.o. and if you want my opinion romo sucks but i still like the cowboys
really cause TO has done so well this year every one of the receivers we have are doing better than him. and romo has put up better numbers than any cowboys qb in his first 3 yrs so how could you not like him or think he sucks do you know anything about football
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#21 | 22 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
really cause TO has done so well this year every one of the receivers we have are doing better than him. and romo has put up better numbers than any cowboys qb in his first 3 yrs so how could you not like him or think he sucks do you know anything about football
i havent been payin attention to tony but i know t.o. doin good but fyi i know a lot bout football it's my sport
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#22 | 22 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
were you calling me a punk if you were their was no since just because i didn't ay anything but the saints. I didn't say if i liked em ur not .
Who are you?? You're not the same poster. I called him a punk because of the obnoxious way he went about posting his previous statement. It's ok if he doesn't like the Saints. I don't want more people jumping on the Saints' bandwagon anyways, but he has to respect that they are a good team and if they keep up this level of play, they will have a damn good shot at playing in and winning the Super Bowl.
#23 | 22 days ago

WV_Mountaineer wrote:
What rhymes with Romo.
That is rude and uncalled for...didn't a certain KC player get into big time trouble for such remarks...just because you didn't come out and say the WORD,doesn't mean we haven't heard it and know what your saying.  Rude you are.
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#24 | 22 days ago

CowboyFan1 wrote:
That is rude and uncalled for...didn't a certain KC player get into big time trouble for such remarks...just because you didn't come out and say the WORD,doesn't mean we haven't heard it and know what your saying.  Rude you are.
wat are you talking about
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#25 | 22 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
wat are you talking about
read the post I quoted...
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#26 | 22 days ago

CowboyFan1 wrote:
read the post I quoted...
wat rhymes with romo?
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#27 | 22 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
i dont have another account
Then he wasn't talking to you.
 
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#28 | 22 days ago

kramer wrote:
Then he wasn't talking to you.
 
oh ok must have been an accident
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#29 | 22 days ago
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Ben is and will always be a better quarterback than Romo, even if he had to start throwing with his left hand(him being naturally right-handed), he would still be better than Romo.Plus Ben has won two Superbowls, while Romo hasn't even been to one,except as a spectator! 
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#30 | 22 days ago

Ben is a decent QB. Romo has his days allthough they are very rare and far in between. Romo should just stick with his golf game!
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#31 | 22 days ago

 Ummm HELLO!!!!!!!  Everyone knows Big Ben is like a MILLION times better!!!!  Do you see the Cowgirls winning anything?  and i m a RAVENS fan!  
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#32 | 22 days ago

I'd put these guys in at about the same level or area, but right now Big Ben is definitely playing better so I'd give him the advantage.
#33 | 22 days ago

Wait... Oh this is serious? Of coarse it is Ben, no comparison, Romo needs to learn to swallow before he chokes when playoffs are near.
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#34 | 22 days ago

2 rings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 playoff wins
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#35 | 22 days ago

kramer wrote:
He wasn't calling YOU a punk unless you have another account, which is illegal on FanIQ.
 
BUSTED!
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#36 | 22 days ago

Ok now that were are done with the My Space portion of the evening, the only question asked here, is who is better, Big Ben or Romo.

If given a choice between the two, to have play on my team, it's Ben , all the way down the line.

Given a chance to take any other QB , that is currently active, heck, Brees, and Brady are on my top list.  But, I'd rather pick from the inactive list..LOL
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#37 | 22 days ago

No brainer here. If Romo pays attention to the game instead of well, who knows where his mind is. He is young, not a leader but can get the job done with help of course.  Like I said before, penalties are the boys worst enemy.  So I am going to go with ROMO all the way.
#38 | 22 days ago

Are you guys referring to Tony "HOMO" otherwise I don't know who you guys are talking about!
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#39 | 22 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
i havent been payin attention to tony but i know t.o. doin good but fyi i know a lot bout football it's my sport
actually T.O. has done absolutely nothing!

but back to the question: big ben is definately the better qb.romo hasnt proven anything even with the open wallet of jerry jones.
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#40 | 22 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
No brainer here. If Romo pays attention to the game instead of well, who knows where his mind is. He is young, not a leader but can get the job done with help of course.  Like I said before, penalties are the boys worst enemy.  So I am going to go with ROMO all the way.
Somebody's been hitting the homer water a little too hard......
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#41 | 22 days ago

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Look I'm not a Steeler fan by any stretch and as for the Cowboys well they could burn in hell for all I care. To the question at hand, Ben is a leader and has proven he can get it done even with a questionable O-Line.  Romo on the other hand is no leader. He's about as butter soft as Wade Phillips is. The Cowboys haven't won since 95, because the Giants and EAGLES have gotten a hell of alot better and Romo has proven he can't win the big games in Dec/Jan. So having said that, if these were all I had to choose from I'd pick Ben. Keep in mind the Eagles sacked him 8 times last year
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#42 | 21 days ago

big ben, I don't even think it's close.
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#43 | 21 days ago

You'll feel something warm and then hot when it hits you!
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#44 | 21 days ago

ahhh; come on now! Look at stats. so far.
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#45 | 21 days ago

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SaintDrew wrote:
wow, it's the battle of the NFL's two most overrated QBs.
How the hell is Romo overrated, you guys say he sucks?
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#46 | 21 days ago

Romo would be great for a back up QB
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#47 | 21 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
No brainer here. If Romo pays attention to the game instead of well, who knows where his mind is. He is young, not a leader but can get the job done with help of course.  Like I said before, penalties are the boys worst enemy.  So I am going to go with ROMO all the way.

Lady you must be drunk as hell!

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#48 | 21 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
i havent been payin attention to tony but i know t.o. doin good but fyi i know a lot bout football it's my sport
really how is T.O. doing good his numbers are worse than Roy Williams who isn't having a good year!!! Miles Austin has put up better numbers in 3 games than TO and roy put together almost.lol i thought you were a cowboys fan your not paying attention to Romo but you think your paying attention to TO who plays for the bills.? i'm a little confused
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#49 | 21 days ago

The Steelers championships had a lot to do with GREAT defenses.  Im not saying Romo is better than Ben on a consistant basis, but if I could take Romo's best game and Big Ben's best game, I would take Romo. But, if we are talking about leadership qualities and consistancy, I would have to go with Big Ben.
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#50 | 21 days ago

Daniel_and_Becca wrote:
Romo would be great for a back up QB
back up are you serious tony romo has put up better numbers in his first 3 yrs than almost every qb in the league including BIG BEN. and ben has been protected with a great defense and running game. this is the first year he's done anything but manage games. and don't even go into romo can't win big games... thats what they said about payton manning and he is the best qb in the league and possible history.
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#51 | 21 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
No brainer here. If Romo pays attention to the game instead of well, who knows where his mind is. He is young, not a leader but can get the job done with help of course.  Like I said before, penalties are the boys worst enemy.  So I am going to go with ROMO all the way.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion... That is my story and I am sticking to it....
#52 | 21 days ago

Do you really have to ask? No question its Ben, How about Romo and Tarvaris Jackson, closer comparison as neither has won a playoff game.
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#53 | 21 days ago

Ben get's the job done. Romo is done before job is finished. Need I sat more?
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#54 | 21 days ago

masternate30 wrote:
Ben get's the job done. Romo is done before job is finished. Need I sat more?
ben's defense and running game got the job done he's been protected his whole career untill maybe this year and to be honest i feel there about equal and if jason Garrett would pull his head out of his ass we might someday see how great romo could be
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#55 | 21 days ago

it breaks my heart to type this...(I'm actually holding myself and rocking in the corner) but Big Ben is more consistent. If Tony ever puts together a consistent season I think he would be much better. But as it stands now....give it to the man with the rings. 
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#56 | 21 days ago

Romo's worst enemy was Jerry Jones giving him a huge contract after only one season....Expectations are huge, and if it were not for Miles Austin putting up huge numbers, they would have lost to the Chiefs...not to mention the poor personnel decisions...Roy Williams...911...haha...I think Roy looked into his crystal ball &  is talking about his career yard totals as a cowboy. 

Romo is better than a lot of QB's in the league, but should never have been put into the top tier so quickly. The media jumped just as far and poorly as Jones. Romo reminds me of Tommy Maddox...I will say no more. 

Big Ben? Not even going there with the love/hate affair here on the Q other than to say Ben is the better all around QB, and it is not even close. 
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#57 | 21 days ago

I like the Dallas Cowboys and Tony Romo. But Ben Roethlisberger is a better player. He has won 2 Superbowl's and Romo hasn't even won a playoff game yet.
I think Romo will eventually win a playoff game and maybe even a Superbowl. But he probably will never live up to all hype.  
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#58 | 21 days ago

Do we really need another Ben R. poll? Geezus there's a lot of Steeler fans on this site.

But since I'm here... I hate the Cowboys, but Romo's my fantasy starter so I have to root for him. I honestly believe they're about the same level of ability, but Ben gets the edge for now due to his championships. Neither is in the elite category, which for now only consists of Brady, Brees, and P. Manning.
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#59 | 21 days ago

jasonwrites wrote:
Do we really need another Ben R. poll? Geezus there's a lot of Steeler fans on this site.

But since I'm here... I hate the Cowboys, but Romo's my fantasy starter so I have to root for him. I honestly believe they're about the same level of ability, but Ben gets the edge for now due to his championships. Neither is in the elite category, which for now only consists of Brady, Brees, and P. Manning.
just out of curiosity how does brees make your elite category what exactly has he done that Romo hasn't?
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#60 | 21 days ago

jasonwrites wrote:
Do we really need another Ben R. poll? Geezus there's a lot of Steeler fans on this site.

But since I'm here... I hate the Cowboys, but Romo's my fantasy starter so I have to root for him. I honestly believe they're about the same level of ability, but Ben gets the edge for now due to his championships. Neither is in the elite category, which for now only consists of Brady, Brees, and P. Manning.
just out of curiosity how does brees make your elite category what exactly has he done that Romo hasn't?
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#61 | 21 days ago

jasonwrites wrote:
Do we really need another Ben R. poll? Geezus there's a lot of Steeler fans on this site.

But since I'm here... I hate the Cowboys, but Romo's my fantasy starter so I have to root for him. I honestly believe they're about the same level of ability, but Ben gets the edge for now due to his championships. Neither is in the elite category, which for now only consists of Brady, Brees, and P. Manning.
just out of curiosity how does brees make your elite category what exactly has he done that Romo hasn't?
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#62 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
just out of curiosity how does brees make your elite category what exactly has he done that Romo hasn't?
What I mean is this: Take any of the 29 teams outside of Indy, New England, and New Orleans. Ask if any of them would not install one of those three QB's in a heartbeat. They'd be lying if they said they wouldn't.
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#63 | 21 days ago

RookyRyder83655 wrote:
ahhh; come on now! Look at stats. so far.
Yeah and????..........are you trying to say that Romo's stats make him better than Ben???.........better check again.
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#64 | 21 days ago

This always comes down to people comparing Ben with all the others based purely on his numbers. Well, this year Ben leads all QB's in  4 stats, and is 2nd in a 5th.  This still garners him little respect.....so I would recommend this:......picture your team in a game in which they are behind by a touchdown with less than 3 minutes left on the clock........NOW which one do you want on your team?........Romo?....or Ben?    Only one smart choice on that one, and Romo ain't it.
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#65 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
just out of curiosity how does brees make your elite category what exactly has he done that Romo hasn't?
Thrown for over 5000 yds in a season to start with....
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#66 | 21 days ago
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lets see how many super bowl rings does ben have? 2!! and how many does tony have?? the big fat 0
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#67 | 21 days ago

jasonwrites wrote:
What I mean is this: Take any of the 29 teams outside of Indy, New England, and New Orleans. Ask if any of them would not install one of those three QB's in a heartbeat. They'd be lying if they said they wouldn't.
well i'd contend that outside of those teams you'd be hard pressed to find a team that wouldn't take either one of these guys
and if your talking stats romo is very comparable to ben in every catagory and has a better qb rating for their careers. everybody on here is talking about championships but one man can not win a superbowl. thats like saying ben is better than Dan Marino and i swear if anyone says that they know nothing about football. how long did it take payton to win a bowl or john elway for that matter when are people going to really analyze the player with out all the hype of a superbowl. granted that's why they play but it is not the only weighted measurement of talent.
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#68 | 21 days ago

mnstar1959 wrote:
Thrown for over 5000 yds in a season to start with....
and just so you know romo has thrown for more yds in less games his first 4 years.
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#69 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
well i'd contend that outside of those teams you'd be hard pressed to find a team that wouldn't take either one of these guys
and if your talking stats romo is very comparable to ben in every catagory and has a better qb rating for their careers. everybody on here is talking about championships but one man can not win a superbowl. thats like saying ben is better than Dan Marino and i swear if anyone says that they know nothing about football. how long did it take payton to win a bowl or john elway for that matter when are people going to really analyze the player with out all the hype of a superbowl. granted that's why they play but it is not the only weighted measurement of talent.
No, I look at leadership capabilities not just stats, but yes you lead people to Championships through playoff games. Tony has proven he can't take care of his personnel life let alone his professional life. ....Bottom line players will ALWAYS be defined by how many championships they won. Why else where the great Vikings players kept off first ballot induction to the Hall of Fame ( Tarkington- 3 ballots( Major 4 career passing leader) , Paul Krause 6 ballots (all-time Interception holder), etc.....? Why, because they lost Super Bowls...
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#70 | 21 days ago

mnstar1959 wrote:
No, I look at leadership capabilities not just stats, but yes you lead people to Championships through playoff games. Tony has proven he can't take care of his personnel life let alone his professional life. ....Bottom line players will ALWAYS be defined by how many championships they won. Why else where the great Vikings players kept off first ballot induction to the Hall of Fame ( Tarkington- 3 ballots( Major 4 career passing leader) , Paul Krause 6 ballots (all-time Interception holder), etc.....? Why, because they lost Super Bowls...
ya your right its a good thing ben had someone to lead him to the Superbowl cause he did what the first year attemped less than 300 passes threw for less than 3 000 yds. whew you should send jerome bettis a christmas card for the first one. and the defense for the second one he had what an 80% quarterback rating. give me a break
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#71 | 21 days ago

mnstar1959 wrote:
No, I look at leadership capabilities not just stats, but yes you lead people to Championships through playoff games. Tony has proven he can't take care of his personnel life let alone his professional life. ....Bottom line players will ALWAYS be defined by how many championships they won. Why else where the great Vikings players kept off first ballot induction to the Hall of Fame ( Tarkington- 3 ballots( Major 4 career passing leader) , Paul Krause 6 ballots (all-time Interception holder), etc.....? Why, because they lost Super Bowls...
its kinda funny he led them to the promised land and it was his 2 worst years they won the superbowl.
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#72 | 21 days ago

"YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME"  -  Herman Edwards
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#73 | 21 days ago

i'm going to leave it at this when all is said and done and both there careers are over i believe that Romo will be the better qb with rings. its just too damn bad you simple people won't be around for me to point it out
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#74 | 21 days ago

Maybe you will be right, only time will tell, but right now it is Big Ben.
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#75 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
well i'd contend that outside of those teams you'd be hard pressed to find a team that wouldn't take either one of these guys
and if your talking stats romo is very comparable to ben in every catagory and has a better qb rating for their careers. everybody on here is talking about championships but one man can not win a superbowl. thats like saying ben is better than Dan Marino and i swear if anyone says that they know nothing about football. how long did it take payton to win a bowl or john elway for that matter when are people going to really analyze the player with out all the hype of a superbowl. granted that's why they play but it is not the only weighted measurement of talent.
That's a fair comparison. No way Roeths. is better than Marino. I don't think Romo's problem is so much that he has yet to win a playoff game, but that he just isn't consistent. He can throw 300+ & 3 TDs one game, and under 200 with no TD's and 3 INT's the next. But he's definitely in the second tier with very good QBs, along with Ben, Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, maybe Kyle Orton-- yes-- the way he's going.
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#76 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
its kinda funny he led them to the promised land and it was his 2 worst years they won the superbowl.
2006 was Ben's worst year.  Romo and the rest of the Cowboys are going to have to start finding ways to get their asses in gear come December and January, otherwise Romo will never even come close to GETTING to the Super Bowl.
 
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#77 | 21 days ago

lol i know who would have thought orton anywhere near anything but the bottom it shows what having some great recievers will do for a qb's confidence level. but as to romo i really think if the team could put together some consistancy so would romo i think the cowboys problem is inconsistency and i think i goes to the coaching staff. players all around the league have pointed out how simple the cowboys offense is. that doesn't help romo's numbers either. i think as a team they are too lax make to many penalties and are undisaplened. fix that and then we'll see what romo is capable of
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#78 | 21 days ago

redneck_chick wrote:
lets see how many super bowl rings does ben have? 2!! and how many does tony have?? the big fat 0
How many years has Ben been playing?
#79 | 21 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
How many years has Ben been playing?
This is Ben's 6th year in the NFL and save 2006, he's been consistently better than Romo.
 
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#80 | 21 days ago
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redneck_chick wrote:
lets see how many super bowl rings does ben have? 2!! and how many does tony have?? the big fat 0
And I thought we might be friends... guess not.
LOL             
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#81 | 21 days ago
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BrianGLeonard wrote:
And I thought we might be friends... guess not.
LOL             
we can still be friends i do use romo as my back up QB in my fantasy league
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#82 | 21 days ago

What sucks is when you have Brees as your starter and Schaub as your backup, who was leading the league in TD passes, but no one wants to trade for him. I better get invited to a Q league next year! Sorry, nothing to do with the thread, just had to say it somewhere.
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#83 | 21 days ago
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redneck_chick wrote:
we can still be friends i do use romo as my back up QB in my fantasy league
Well, I'll take it, even as a "back up". I'm all for the Colts as long as they are not playing the Cowboys, then Well it just has to be Cowboys breaking some Colts...
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#84 | 21 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
How many years has Ben been playing?
Romo will get his head on straight one of these days.. He is just to young and in my opinion the offense has not been that much help to him.. I think the offense is a big factor as to how well a quarterback does. I know I would get irritated with all the penalties and no protection.. also my opinion, Tony was not ready to be the starting QB, but considering the lesser of the two evils we had at the time, he was the best choice for the job. This team has very poor management and the owner is an idiot.. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about that. He keeps hiring all these has beens and expects them to win like they did in their prime.. Not gonna happen..
#85 | 21 days ago
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kramer wrote:
This is Ben's 6th year in the NFL and save 2006, he's been consistently better than Romo.
 
So 2006 means nothing? Okay... So be it.
I fully respect Ben's talent and achievements but I do not have a crystal ball to look into the future. I have always been a Cowboys fan and I have the greatest hopes for Romo. He has shown some promise. Give the guy a few more years (and some sympathy points for the people he works for) and let's see where his stats are. Good Luck to you and the Steelers. I hope we meet up post season, it would be wonderful to see.
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#86 | 21 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
Romo will get his head on straight one of these days.. He is just to young and in my opinion the offense has not been that much help to him.. I think the offense is a big factor as to how well a quarterback does. I know I would get irritated with all the penalties and no protection.. also my opinion, Tony was not ready to be the starting QB, but considering the lesser of the two evils we had at the time, he was the best choice for the job. This team has very poor management and the owner is an idiot.. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about that. He keeps hiring all these has beens and expects them to win like they did in their prime.. Not gonna happen..
For the record, Romo is older than Roethlisberger.
 
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#87 | 21 days ago
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Well, I'll take it, even as a "back up". I'm all for the Colts as long as they are not playing the Cowboys, then Well it just has to be Cowboys breaking some Colts...
lol fair enough
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#88 | 21 days ago

redneck_chick wrote:
we can still be friends i do use romo as my back up QB in my fantasy league
Big Bendefinitely
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#89 | 21 days ago

BrianGLeonard wrote:
So 2006 means nothing? Okay... So be it.
I fully respect Ben's talent and achievements but I do not have a crystal ball to look into the future. I have always been a Cowboys fan and I have the greatest hopes for Romo. He has shown some promise. Give the guy a few more years (and some sympathy points for the people he works for) and let's see where his stats are. Good Luck to you and the Steelers. I hope we meet up post season, it would be wonderful to see.
I'm not saying 2006 means nothing.  I'm saying that's the only year Romo was better than Roethlisberger.  Overall, Big Ben has been far more consistent.  Give the guy a few more years?  He's already in his 5th year, how much more time should he be given?
 
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#90 | 21 days ago

kramer wrote:
This is Ben's 6th year in the NFL and save 2006, he's been consistently better than Romo.
 
here is your 4 yr comparison

2006 ben 75.4 passer rating 18 td 23int Romo 95.1 passer rating 19 td 13 ints
2007         104.1 PR                       32 td 11int Romo 97.4                           36td 19 ints
2008 Ben 80.1 PR                   17td 15 int Romo 91.4 PR                    26 td 14 ints
2009 ben 102.6 PR                 11 td 6 int Romo 94.7 PR                       9 td   4 ints
                avg PR 90.5                                            avg PR 94.5
                td/int 78/55                                               td/int 90/50
                avg per yr 19.5/13.75                             avg per yr 22.5/12.5

Who is more consistent and who is better tell me again so i can make some sense of all your nonsense
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#91 | 21 days ago

kramer wrote:
I'm not saying 2006 means nothing.  I'm saying that's the only year Romo was better than Roethlisberger.  Overall, Big Ben has been far more consistent.  Give the guy a few more years?  He's already in his 5th year, how much more time should he be given?
 
check the numbers and show me where he is better or more consistent
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#92 | 21 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
Romo will get his head on straight one of these days.. He is just to young and in my opinion the offense has not been that much help to him.. I think the offense is a big factor as to how well a quarterback does. I know I would get irritated with all the penalties and no protection.. also my opinion, Tony was not ready to be the starting QB, but considering the lesser of the two evils we had at the time, he was the best choice for the job. This team has very poor management and the owner is an idiot.. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about that. He keeps hiring all these has beens and expects them to win like they did in their prime.. Not gonna happen..
Again, I don't think age is the factor.. So they are both young, maybe Ben is more mature than Tony, I don't know. But I am not going to bash either one of them.. They are all human and we all make mistakes, some more than the other, but it is not fair to either one or us to judge them, we do not know what they are told to do. And we can not assume anything... It is up to them to prove themselves...So let it be and lets be friends.. Not enemies over a game.. OK...?
#93 | 21 days ago

bottom line romo's numbers ARE better and more consistent truth is he hasn't won in the playoffs. (it takes a whole team to do that!) and Romo plays for Americas team and is scrutinized more because of it
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#94 | 21 days ago
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kramer wrote:
I'm not saying 2006 means nothing.  I'm saying that's the only year Romo was better than Roethlisberger.  Overall, Big Ben has been far more consistent.  Give the guy a few more years?  He's already in his 5th year, how much more time should he be given?
 
See you post season. Good Luck, two thumbs up. Enjoy...
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#95 | 21 days ago

oh and did i mention that all of romos numbers were better last year while playing hurt and with half the team hurt half the year.
ben 281 comp 469 att 59.4 comp% 17 touchdowns and 15 ints in a full season
romo276 comp 450 att 61.3 comp% 26 tds and 14 ints in only 13 games.
enough said yet
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#96 | 21 days ago

The question to me is talking about right now so look at your stats again and tell me
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#97 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
bottom line romo's numbers ARE better and more consistent truth is he hasn't won in the playoffs. (it takes a whole team to do that!) and Romo plays for Americas team and is scrutinized more because of it
The truth is Romo can't do anything in December, neither can the rest of the Cowboys.  Ben keeps it going ALL YEAR, hence why he's more consistent.  Yes, that's right, Ben IS more consistent over the course of an entire year.  Why don't you check their stats in the last month of the season and see how Ben and the Steelers don't fall off the face of the earth like the Cowboys and Romo do year after year.  Everyone who isn't a homer Cowboys fan can clearly see Ben is the better QB based on year-long performance.  Your arguments are the ones that are complete nonsense.  It's hilarious how you try to do math and make averages to back up your argument when it's clear as a bell who the better overall QB is.  Roethlisberger is more mobile, he doesn't fall off at the end of the year, he wins games, he's played well in the PLAYOFFS, and has also led his team on a game-winning drive in the Super Bowl, a place Romo will NEVER get the with his inconsistency and incredibly lousy performance (along with the rest of the Cowboys) in the final month of the season.  I am done arguing with homers who clearly would NEVER say Romo is better than Roethlisberger if Romo played for anyone BUT the Cowboys, and THAT is a guarantee.
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#98 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
i'm going to leave it at this when all is said and done and both there careers are over i believe that Romo will be the better qb with rings. its just too damn bad you simple people won't be around for me to point it out
I will be here to point out how wrong you were.
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#99 | 21 days ago

I would say the season is still young and lets check in 2 months
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#100 | 21 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
I would say the season is still young and lets check in 2 months
I'm with you on that........we can argue this all day, but it doesn't matter until we see who is standing tall come January.
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#101 | 21 days ago
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redneck_chick wrote:
we can still be friends i do use romo as my back up QB in my fantasy league
Geez, someone PQ'd that???
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#102 | 21 days ago

feel_the_steel wrote:
I'm with you on that........we can argue this all day, but it doesn't matter until we see who is standing tall come January.
amen brotha we'll talk then
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#103 | 21 days ago

 Can't believe this is actually a question..... the true mark of a QB is not just his numbers but how he plays in big games.  There have been many QB's that have put up big numbers but never won or even made it to a Super Bowl so they are not heralded as much as the QB's who did bring their teams to the Super Bowl.  One name that comes to mind is Jim Kelly......
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#104 | 21 days ago

Big Ben, no doubt; Romo is just way too inconsistent.

(besides, I've got Ben in my fantasy league, and his points are MUCH better than Romo's; count passing yards, TDs, interceptions...Romo's had one good game (last week), and in the post-game interview, he was all giddy...looked like an idiot!!)
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#105 | 21 days ago

See Ben can pull a rabbit out of his hat.  Romo can not even pull his head of of his @$$ oops rear.
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#106 | 20 days ago

kramer wrote:
The truth is Romo can't do anything in December, neither can the rest of the Cowboys.  Ben keeps it going ALL YEAR, hence why he's more consistent.  Yes, that's right, Ben IS more consistent over the course of an entire year.  Why don't you check their stats in the last month of the season and see how Ben and the Steelers don't fall off the face of the earth like the Cowboys and Romo do year after year.  Everyone who isn't a homer Cowboys fan can clearly see Ben is the better QB based on year-long performance.  Your arguments are the ones that are complete nonsense.  It's hilarious how you try to do math and make averages to back up your argument when it's clear as a bell who the better overall QB is.  Roethlisberger is more mobile, he doesn't fall off at the end of the year, he wins games, he's played well in the PLAYOFFS, and has also led his team on a game-winning drive in the Super Bowl, a place Romo will NEVER get the with his inconsistency and incredibly lousy performance (along with the rest of the Cowboys) in the final month of the season.  I am done arguing with homers who clearly would NEVER say Romo is better than Roethlisberger if Romo played for anyone BUT the Cowboys, and THAT is a guarantee.
Could not have said it better myself . If
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#107 | 20 days ago

Could not have said it better myself . If Ben played on the cowboys would they have won 2 Super Bowls who knows ?
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#108 | 20 days ago
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kramer wrote:
The truth is Romo can't do anything in December, neither can the rest of the Cowboys.  Ben keeps it going ALL YEAR, hence why he's more consistent.  Yes, that's right, Ben IS more consistent over the course of an entire year.  Why don't you check their stats in the last month of the season and see how Ben and the Steelers don't fall off the face of the earth like the Cowboys and Romo do year after year.  Everyone who isn't a homer Cowboys fan can clearly see Ben is the better QB based on year-long performance.  Your arguments are the ones that are complete nonsense.  It's hilarious how you try to do math and make averages to back up your argument when it's clear as a bell who the better overall QB is.  Roethlisberger is more mobile, he doesn't fall off at the end of the year, he wins games, he's played well in the PLAYOFFS, and has also led his team on a game-winning drive in the Super Bowl, a place Romo will NEVER get the with his inconsistency and incredibly lousy performance (along with the rest of the Cowboys) in the final month of the season.  I am done arguing with homers who clearly would NEVER say Romo is better than Roethlisberger if Romo played for anyone BUT the Cowboys, and THAT is a guarantee.
When the Steelers are cutting me paychecks, I might give a hoot about them... until then, Cowboys - Cowboys - Cowboys.
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#109 | 20 days ago

Tony is a good QB, but I don't trust him enough right now to place him above "Big Ben". When he shows me a little more consistancy I will show him a little more support.
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#110 | 20 days ago
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masternate30 wrote:
See Ben can pull a rabbit out of his hat.  Romo can not even pull his head of of his @$$ oops rear.
Lmfao so true so very true
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#111 | 20 days ago

Romo is a better pure passer, but Roethlisberger is a better leader. If I just want a guy to come in and throw a couple of pretty passes I'd pick Romo, but even though he's not as good of a Quarterback as Romo I'd pick Roethlisberger to build a team around.
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#112 | 20 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
Again, I don't think age is the factor.. So they are both young, maybe Ben is more mature than Tony, I don't know. But I am not going to bash either one of them.. They are all human and we all make mistakes, some more than the other, but it is not fair to either one or us to judge them, we do not know what they are told to do. And we can not assume anything... It is up to them to prove themselves...So let it be and lets be friends.. Not enemies over a game.. OK...?
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#113 | 20 days ago

marytrammell31 wrote:
Again, I don't think age is the factor.. So they are both young, maybe Ben is more mature than Tony, I don't know. But I am not going to bash either one of them.. They are all human and we all make mistakes, some more than the other, but it is not fair to either one or us to judge them, we do not know what they are told to do. And we can not assume anything... It is up to them to prove themselves...So let it be and lets be friends.. Not enemies over a game.. OK...?
I was wondering when I would hear from you on this subject.. :)
#114 | 20 days ago

mnstar1959 wrote:
Thrown for over 5000 yds in a season to start with....
thats because they couldn't run the ball that year when duece got hurt... bush couldnt carry the load by himself.... i think they threw the ball over 40 times a game too
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#115 | 20 days ago

CowboyFan1 wrote:
That is rude and uncalled for...didn't a certain KC player get into big time trouble for such remarks...just because you didn't come out and say the WORD,doesn't mean we haven't heard it and know what your saying.  Rude you are.
Wahhhhhhhhhh
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#116 | 20 days ago

BrianGLeonard wrote:
When the Steelers are cutting me paychecks, I might give a hoot about them... until then, Cowboys - Cowboys - Cowboys.
Are the cowboys cutting you paychecks?
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#117 | 20 days ago
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Are the cowboys cutting you paychecks?
No, but I am a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.  You would have to pay me to be a Steelers fan... I hear they already have many.
LOL
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#118 | 20 days ago

aos035 wrote:
How the hell is Romo overrated, you guys say he sucks?
Romo should go try soccer with the other girls.
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#119 | 20 days ago

SaintDrew wrote:
Ummm have you been watching the Saints play this year? Please tell me exactly how they are overrated. Breesus has led them to 6-0 record, winning at home and on the road, blowing teams out, winning with defense, and mounting a huge comeback. You might not like the Saints, and you might not think they will win the Super Bowl, but they are not overrated and you should certainly respect them. Go ahead and be a punk though. Next.
Yea there hot right now but they always fall short!!have you been a saints fan your whole life!I don't dislike them they just never show up for big games!
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#120 | 20 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
just out of curiosity how does brees make your elite category what exactly has he done that Romo hasn't?
Obviously you don't remember New Orleans Saints run to the 2006 NFC Championship game. They had a first round bye and then beat the Eagles in the Dome to advance to the NFC Championship game where they lost at Chicago. Romo still hasn't won a playoff game at all. Maybe you should do some research next time you call someone out. 

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#121 | 20 days ago

Steelersfan812 wrote:
Yea there hot right now but they always fall short!!have you been a saints fan your whole life!I don't dislike them they just never show up for big games!
 Actually I used to live in Tampa when I was younger...I have the orange creamsickle jersey to prove it. But I've always been a Saints fan, and when Dungy was fired and his players eventually all left, I lost all interest in the Bucs and have followed the Saints first and foremost since then. You're right, traditionally the Saints haven't done much, but this is our year!
#122 | 19 days ago

SaintDrew wrote:
Obviously you don't remember New Orleans Saints run to the 2006 NFC Championship game. They had a first round bye and then beat the Eagles in the Dome to advance to the NFC Championship game where they lost at Chicago. Romo still hasn't won a playoff game at all. Maybe you should do some research next time you call someone out. 

NEXT. 
and he still hasn't won a championship. you people make no sense romo isn't as good as big ben cause he hasn't won a ring, even though year after year his numbers are better now brees is an elite qb because he has good numbers, when did he win a championship. don't get me wrong i love drew brees think he is a great qb. but if we are going on championships he is no higher than romo. bottom line romo has started 3 and a half yrs and has put up better numbers than most elite qbs did in the same timeframe yet some morons on here don't want to give him any credit. if ben or drew played for the cowboys for there 1st 4 yrs we'd be having this discussion about them.
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#123 | 19 days ago

CowboyFan1 wrote:
That is rude and uncalled for...didn't a certain KC player get into big time trouble for such remarks...just because you didn't come out and say the WORD,doesn't mean we haven't heard it and know what your saying.  Rude you are.
There used to be a singer named Perry Como that rhymes with Romo.  He could not play football either.
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#124 | 18 days ago
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Romo should go try soccer with the other girls.
In one fell swoop you've offended Romo/the Cowboys, soccer and girls... what professional sport is it you play again?
I missed the part where you earn a paycheck playing a sport.
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#125 | 18 days ago

SaintDrew wrote:
 Actually I used to live in Tampa when I was younger...I have the orange creamsickle jersey to prove it. But I've always been a Saints fan, and when Dungy was fired and his players eventually all left, I lost all interest in the Bucs and have followed the Saints first and foremost since then. You're right, traditionally the Saints haven't done much, but this is our year!
I used to live in new orleans when i was a kid!!used to like the saints.but like i said they always fall short.But it would be nice to see them do something in the playoffs.
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#126 | 18 days ago

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THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN COMPARE THE 2   ROTHLISBERGER HAS WON 2 SUPERBOWLS......  TONY ROMO CANT EVEN WIN A PLAYOFF GAME. CANT EVEN GET IN THE PLAYOFFS HALF THE TIME.... GIVE ME A BREAK!
its just a guess. lol     i'm into 2 teams thats all.  patriots and collage football i like georgia.
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#127 | 18 days ago

lowdercatherine34 wrote:
its just a guess. lol     i'm into 2 teams thats all.  patriots and collage football i like georgia.
you people make no sense ben didn't win the superbowl the steelers did and mostly with defense and a running game. are you really trying to tell me the ben is better than say Dan Marino. he didn't do much they won the superbowl in his two worst years.
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#128 | 18 days ago

DAPLAYAHATA wrote:
THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN COMPARE THE 2   ROTHLISBERGER HAS WON 2 SUPERBOWLS......  TONY ROMO CANT EVEN WIN A PLAYOFF GAME. CANT EVEN GET IN THE PLAYOFFS HALF THE TIME.... GIVE ME A BREAK!

Although I AM a Cowboys fan...I have to agree with you. Tony, over throws and can't keep a hold of the ball! Come one now. He's young and has alot to learn. Even though his stats are higher that Troy Aikman...He is STILL NO TROY! Or better yet Rothlisherger!

#129 | 18 days ago

Lets look at the stats!

TONY ROMO
PASS YDS; 1908
TD; 12
YDS/GAME :272.6
QB RATING: 96.8
SACKS IN THE LAST 4 GAMES: 10
FUMBLES :4


BEN ROETHLISHERGER
PASS YDS: 2062
TD: 11
YDS/GAME 294.6
QB RATING 102.6
SACKS IN THE LAST FOR GAMES 13
FUMBLES : 4
#130 | 18 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
you people make no sense ben didn't win the superbowl the steelers did and mostly with defense and a running game. are you really trying to tell me the ben is better than say Dan Marino. he didn't do much they won the superbowl in his two worst years.
But atleast Marino led his team to a Super Bowl; again Romo has led his team out of the playoffs in the first round EVERY time they got there.  Where's his leadership? Being quarterback is not just take the snap from center, you need to be able to lead also. Eli Manning is finding that out this year.
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#131 | 18 days ago

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But atleast Marino led his team to a Super Bowl; again Romo has led his team out of the playoffs in the first round EVERY time they got there.  Where's his leadership? Being quarterback is not just take the snap from center, you need to be able to lead also. Eli Manning is finding that out this year.
again ben didn't lead them either superbowl their defense and running game did and eli has just as many championships so why are you bringing him up. your helping me make my point. and again romo is in his 4th year as a starter never had a losing season, and some of what i'm sure you'd consider much better than ben took much longer to win in the super bowl or the playoffs. mostly because football is a team sport and 1 man can't win or lose a game or a championship
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#132 | 18 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
again ben didn't lead them either superbowl their defense and running game did and eli has just as many championships so why are you bringing him up. your helping me make my point. and again romo is in his 4th year as a starter never had a losing season, and some of what i'm sure you'd consider much better than ben took much longer to win in the super bowl or the playoffs. mostly because football is a team sport and 1 man can't win or lose a game or a championship
Quarterbacks are the leaders of their teams.........Please double check you facts regarding Ben and his rookie season as I believe his team won 15 games his rookie year........I bring up Eli because he too is finding out he is not that good of a QB either (not Elite) and the media will be eating him alive soon...... Tony may not have to worry about losing one this year because it is very possible the Cowboys won't make the playoffs. Three wins in a row but who did they beat? True football is a team game however one voice needs to jell the individual parts into one and no that is not the Head coach's job.
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#133 | 18 days ago

joentessmendiola wrote:
Lets look at the stats!

TONY ROMO
PASS YDS; 1908
TD; 12
YDS/GAME :272.6
QB RATING: 96.8
SACKS IN THE LAST 4 GAMES: 10
FUMBLES :4


BEN ROETHLISHERGER
PASS YDS: 2062
TD: 11
YDS/GAME 294.6
QB RATING 102.6
SACKS IN THE LAST FOR GAMES 13
FUMBLES : 4
LETS!!!

TONY ROMO CAREER STATS
  G   Att      Comp  pct      Att/G       Yds     Avg    Yds/G    TD   TD% Int I nt%   Lng 20+     40+    Sck SckY  Rate
                            74 1,537 969  63.0 20.8 12,470 8.1 168.5 93 6.1 50 3.3 80 171  39 78 486  95.0
BIG BEN CAREER STATS
  G att        Comp Pct Att/G Yds    Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
TOTAL                               79  2,138   1,353       63.3  27.1  17,036  8.0   215.6   112   5.2      75 3.5     85    223 47       212   1,389   90.9

Please note in 2 less yrs romo has about the same comp %, higher td% lower INT% oh and a better QB rating. so where do we go from here. oh i'd also challenge you to check on those stats come jan i'll bet romo's are better for this yr. too
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#134 | 18 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
LETS!!!

TONY ROMO CAREER STATS
  G   Att      Comp  pct      Att/G       Yds     Avg    Yds/G    TD   TD% Int I nt%   Lng 20+     40+    Sck SckY  Rate
                            74 1,537 969  63.0 20.8 12,470 8.1 168.5 93 6.1 50 3.3 80 171  39 78 486  95.0
BIG BEN CAREER STATS
  G att        Comp Pct Att/G Yds    Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
TOTAL                               79  2,138   1,353       63.3  27.1  17,036  8.0   215.6   112   5.2      75 3.5     85    223 47       212   1,389   90.9

Please note in 2 less yrs romo has about the same comp %, higher td% lower INT% oh and a better QB rating. so where do we go from here. oh i'd also challenge you to check on those stats come jan i'll bet romo's are better for this yr. too
I said check Ben's record/stats his first year as you insinuated he had no success.............Clap, clap, clap, clap........Still Romo has no BIG wins. I'm apparently not getting my point across to you so let me try this one last time.............Super Bowl wins = Success, Playoff wins = Success,  Much Success compared to your peers = elite status..........Romo is at ZERO tied with Tarvaris Jackson, Jason Campbell, etc. Winning in Pro Sports is all that matters.
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#135 | 18 days ago

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I said check Ben's record/stats his first year as you insinuated he had no success.............Clap, clap, clap, clap........Still Romo has no BIG wins. I'm apparently not getting my point across to you so let me try this one last time.............Super Bowl wins = Success, Playoff wins = Success,  Much Success compared to your peers = elite status..........Romo is at ZERO tied with Tarvaris Jackson, Jason Campbell, etc. Winning in Pro Sports is all that matters.
wow you really are slow all he's done is win as a matter of fact more than most qb's in the nfl. if he was old and retiring sure chalk it up as a loss but i will assure you that not only will he win in the playoffs its not far off. again ONE PLAYER DOESN"T WIN A FOOTBALL GAME. this isn't basketball it takes a team IF ben played for the cowboys he wouldn't have won anymore than romo as a matter of fact i don't think he have won as much. so i understand that they play to win but the question wasn't who has won in the playoffs it was who's a better QB like skills you know reading D's arm strength accuracy. the things that decide QB ratings. so again check the stats there really not that different. the only difference is the defense that they played with. is that clear enough for you
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#136 | 18 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
LETS!!!

TONY ROMO CAREER STATS
  G   Att      Comp  pct      Att/G       Yds     Avg    Yds/G    TD   TD% Int I nt%   Lng 20+     40+    Sck SckY  Rate
                            74 1,537 969  63.0 20.8 12,470 8.1 168.5 93 6.1 50 3.3 80 171  39 78 486  95.0
BIG BEN CAREER STATS
  G att        Comp Pct Att/G Yds    Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
TOTAL                               79  2,138   1,353       63.3  27.1  17,036  8.0   215.6   112   5.2      75 3.5     85    223 47       212   1,389   90.9

Please note in 2 less yrs romo has about the same comp %, higher td% lower INT% oh and a better QB rating. so where do we go from here. oh i'd also challenge you to check on those stats come jan i'll bet romo's are better for this yr. too
Yes, let's hope so!  Still a Cowboys fan no matter what! I just hope Tony can pull through!
#137 | 16 days ago

Ben with out a doubt.
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#138 | 16 days ago

How is this even a question? Big Ben has more macho-ness and ability in his pinky toe, than Romo has in his whole body.
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#139 | 16 days ago

joentessmendiola wrote:
Lets look at the stats!

TONY ROMO
PASS YDS; 1908
TD; 12
YDS/GAME :272.6
QB RATING: 96.8
SACKS IN THE LAST 4 GAMES: 10
FUMBLES :4


BEN ROETHLISHERGER
PASS YDS: 2062
TD: 11
YDS/GAME 294.6
QB RATING 102.6
SACKS IN THE LAST FOR GAMES 13
FUMBLES : 4
The answer to a TRIED and TRUE DIEHARD COWBOY FAN will always be WHOEVER is the starting DALLAS COWBOY QUARTERBACK - - who the heck is this Ben guy?????
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#140 | 15 days ago

if you based it on superbowl wins as most people who take these polls do......well it would have to be big ben..........based on the ability to lead a team........big ben....................ahhhhh never mind anyone who thinks romo is a better quaterback than big ben at this point right now in their career's.......well i could really use some of those drugs you are taking cause i get tired of facing reality sometimes too.
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#141 | 15 days ago

Everyone is talking about seasons past.... There's still a whole lot of football left for Romo to shine... or falter. Romo is streaky as hell and seems to cool off when the weather does in December...BUT history doesn't necessarily always repeat it self... Remember when Peyton couldn't beat the Pats in the playoffs

And as for Big Ben, this is the first year that the steelers have actually TRANSFORMED into an actual passing team and Big Ben looks like he has the tools to actually win games with his arm this year and not worry about being a game manager (like in years before)

Personally, i think both are great QBs(rings or no rings) but neither hold a candle to Brady or Peyton... yet.
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#142 | 15 days ago
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snow_leopard_princes wrote:
The answer to a TRIED and TRUE DIEHARD COWBOY FAN will always be WHOEVER is the starting DALLAS COWBOY QUARTERBACK - - who the heck is this Ben guy?????
YES!!! Someone finally "gets it".
Drew?? Tom??? Peyton??? Aaron??? Philip??? Curt??? WHO are these people?
BTW that Ben person just barely made the top 15 for this season's NFL fantasy football QBs.
http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=09000d5d80fe1a11&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true
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#143 | 15 days ago

Is this a joke?  Ben or Brady or Manning...... how many SB did Romo win???  excuse me, playoff games???  duh
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#144 | 15 days ago

This is rough, not because there is any real debate over who is better, but being a true Cowboy fan, it is difficult to admit any thing remotely dealing with Pittsburgh is better than anything is Dallas turns my stomach. But in this case , sorry Cowboy nation but Big Ben is a far better QB now than Tony. Not to say that when both are done that will be the case, let's look at it this way put Ben on the Cowboys and Romo in Pittsburgh and the Cowboys have two more rings.....Nuff said
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#145 | 14 days ago

dano1mac wrote:
This is rough, not because there is any real debate over who is better, but being a true Cowboy fan, it is difficult to admit any thing remotely dealing with Pittsburgh is better than anything is Dallas turns my stomach. But in this case , sorry Cowboy nation but Big Ben is a far better QB now than Tony. Not to say that when both are done that will be the case, let's look at it this way put Ben on the Cowboys and Romo in Pittsburgh and the Cowboys have two more rings.....Nuff said
are you serious. the cowboys wouldn't be any better with ben have you looked at there numbers really ben doesn't offer anything different than romo except that he is not as fun to watch. it they switched places romo would have 2 rings sorry to say but pit won both superbowls on defense and running so who the qb was would have mattered very little.  I swear i don't think half you people even watch football. sorry to have to go off being that you a cowboy fan but what's right is right and whats wrong is wrong and your very very wrong
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#146 | 14 days ago
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dano1mac wrote:
This is rough, not because there is any real debate over who is better, but being a true Cowboy fan, it is difficult to admit any thing remotely dealing with Pittsburgh is better than anything is Dallas turns my stomach. But in this case , sorry Cowboy nation but Big Ben is a far better QB now than Tony. Not to say that when both are done that will be the case, let's look at it this way put Ben on the Cowboys and Romo in Pittsburgh and the Cowboys have two more rings.....Nuff said
A "true Cowboy fan"... Rowdy is coming to take your Dallas Star away...

LOL

PS (this is a joke, HAHA - Funny Funny)
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#147 | 14 days ago
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(Edited by BrianGLeonard)
And for all the people who picked that Ben fellow, I have great respect for his accomplishements and stats... et al.
But, for those who are angered by others' opinions on this subject, on either side of the fence, I give you the following present to keep -
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#148 | 14 days ago

Are you serious? You saying that Tony would be better if he was on the Steelers, well as everyone knows the offensive line is who helps make the quarterback who he is, but wait Ben has been sacked more and still has better numbers than Tony. But to say if Tony was on the Steelers he would have to rings also that's going out on a limb, to make comments like these Iam wondering if you watch football. JUST SAYING
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#149 | 14 days ago

This poll is kind of confusing.  I mean it says "who is better".  It doesn't say who is the better quarterback.  Tony Romo is better at lots of things.  For example Romo is better at: picking up women, sounding intellegent while speaking(sorry Ben you sound like a moron), and lets not forget what he does better than anyone in the league-choking. 
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#150 | 14 days ago

joe_lindberg wrote:
Are you serious? You saying that Tony would be better if he was on the Steelers, well as everyone knows the offensive line is who helps make the quarterback who he is, but wait Ben has been sacked more and still has better numbers than Tony. But to say if Tony was on the Steelers he would have to rings also that's going out on a limb, to make comments like these Iam wondering if you watch football. JUST SAYING
no your missing the point romo would be the same romo. ben would be the same ben. quite frankly if you go back i put all the numbers up for the last 4 years. and romo's numbers are marginally better check message 90 for 4yr comparison or 136 for career and tell me how he's got better numbers. my point was ben didn't win the championships pits Defense and running game did. so if romo played for pit it would have probably been the same outcome. the problem is all of you voting for ben are doing it based on playoff wins and championships not numbers. the numbers speak for themselves. and teams win games and championships not quarterbacks.
is my point clear yet.
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#151 | 14 days ago

snow_leopard_princes wrote:
The answer to a TRIED and TRUE DIEHARD COWBOY FAN will always be WHOEVER is the starting DALLAS COWBOY QUARTERBACK - - who the heck is this Ben guy?????
Like I said ... Ben who???
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#152 | 14 days ago

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shabaazx wrote:
no your missing the point romo would be the same romo. ben would be the same ben. quite frankly if you go back i put all the numbers up for the last 4 years. and romo's numbers are marginally better check message 90 for 4yr comparison or 136 for career and tell me how he's got better numbers. my point was ben didn't win the championships pits Defense and running game did. so if romo played for pit it would have probably been the same outcome. the problem is all of you voting for ben are doing it based on playoff wins and championships not numbers. the numbers speak for themselves. and teams win games and championships not quarterbacks.
is my point clear yet.
 The point I was making is NO ONE can say if Tony was on the Steelers he would have 2 rings, and the quarterback is a part of winning championship if there weren't owners would stop spending so much money on them. Don't take that the wrong way Iam not saying that quarterbacks win championships it takes the whole team.
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#153 | 14 days ago

Dude, if you can remember last years Superbowl i am pretty sure that big Ben lead them down the field for a GAME WINNING touchdown!!! and this year he is only 2ND to Peyton manning statistically... so I dont know where you are com min from! can one guy make or break a team? maybe not but a bad QB can certainly make the difference!
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#154 | 14 days ago

joe_lindberg wrote:
 The point I was making is NO ONE can say if Tony was on the Steelers he would have 2 rings, and the quarterback is a part of winning championship if there weren't owners would stop spending so much money on them. Don't take that the wrong way Iam not saying that quarterbacks win championships it takes the whole team.
 actually you did you said and i quote "ben has been sacked more and still has better numbers." so again how does he have better numbers? and your right no one can say for certain that he would have 2 rings but i can speculate that they would have won the superbowls either way. just like you said if ben was a cowboy we'd have 2 more rings. so would you like to explain yourself now that i've broken everything down in to lamens terms for you. lol to be honest i don't think there is that much difference between the 2 but if you know the numbers then you know the steelers won the superbowls in bens worst years. so your right but both tampa and baltimore and many other teams have won superbowls without great qb's. every football fan know Defense wins championships.
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shabaazx wrote:
 actually you did you said and i quote "ben has been sacked more and still has better numbers." so again how does he have better numbers? and your right no one can say for certain that he would have 2 rings but i can speculate that they would have won the superbowls either way. just like you said if ben was a cowboy we'd have 2 more rings. so would you like to explain yourself now that i've broken everything down in to lamens terms for you. lol to be honest i don't think there is that much difference between the 2 but if you know the numbers then you know the steelers won the superbowls in bens worst years. so your right but both tampa and baltimore and many other teams have won superbowls without great qb's. every football fan know Defense wins championships.
When did I say if Ben was on the Cowboys they would have two rings.
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#156 | 14 days ago

ataqwx wrote:
It's never Romo.
tony romo is a choke artist!!!!!!! he cannot win when he has to....ben wins consistantly when our defense didnt show up and when polamolu was hurt our offense carried us (ben)......he makes things happen....romo does too!!! not the same thing though....put some pressure on romo ...what happens......CHOKE!!!!!....ben is always under pressure because he holds the ball forever looking for the big play....making it HAPPEN!!!!!!....its obvious who the better player is....first year starting he took us to the superbowl!!!! and won!!!!!in fact i think he beat a couple of marino rookie year records that year......look at the record......
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#157 | 14 days ago

BrianGLeonard wrote:
YES!!! Someone finally "gets it".
Drew?? Tom??? Peyton??? Aaron??? Philip??? Curt??? WHO are these people?
BTW that Ben person just barely made the top 15 for this season's NFL fantasy football QBs.
http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=09000d5d80fe1a11&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true
That was before he started putting up the numbers he has.  I'm sure a lot more people would like to have him on their fantasy teams now.
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#158 | 14 days ago

ataqwx wrote:
It's never Romo.
This coming from a man with a 'head' like that on his shoulder .... hhhhmmmmmmmmm
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#159 | 14 days ago

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heebjluv wrote:
The only people who would say Tony is better are Dallas fans.Ben has the records and the hardware not to mention the rings.You can't call yourself a true football fan and say in the same breath that Tony Romo is the better QB.
Look of course Dallas Fans will say Tony - - cause DIEHARD FANS will support every last player on the TEAM!!!!

Hell the DIEHARD FANS did NOT want the showboat Terrell "whineybutt' Owens here but 'we' got him none the less and supported the TEAM not the PLAYER - - there is a difference.  

Besides if he plays in Pittsburg who cares anyway?

*edited to remove name calling (against the code of conduct)*
BK
 
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#160 | 14 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
ben's defense and running game got the job done he's been protected his whole career untill maybe this year and to be honest i feel there about equal and if jason Garrett would pull his head out of his ass we might someday see how great romo could be
Huny I lubs ya more than my luggage but Jason Garrett is not the problem here ... the problem (I hate to say this) is Romo and his lack of confidence ... if he does not have confidence in his receivers (other than Witten) he is screwed.  Austin has stepped up (THANK GOD!!!) so hopefully Tony will STOP stepping on his own _ _ _ _ _ and be the leader he should be for this team.  Romo has to step up and stop trying to be EVERYONE's buddy - friend ... on the OFFENSIVE side - - on that FIELD he is the BOSS!  Once he learns that - - he will succeed ... BIG TIME!!!
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#161 | 14 days ago

joe_lindberg wrote:
When did I say if Ben was on the Cowboys they would have two rings.
my bad it was the lame cowboys fan who started this discussion before you chimed in. my apoligies.
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#162 | 14 days ago

heebjluv wrote:
The only people who would say Tony is better are Dallas fans.Ben has the records and the hardware not to mention the rings.You can't call yourself a true football fan and say in the same breath that Tony Romo is the better QB.
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#163 | 14 days ago

LOL no problem. Good Luck to your Cowboys the rest of the season.
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#164 | 14 days ago

skijazz1970 wrote:
tony romo is a choke artist!!!!!!! he cannot win when he has to....ben wins consistantly when our defense didnt show up and when polamolu was hurt our offense carried us (ben)......he makes things happen....romo does too!!! not the same thing though....put some pressure on romo ...what happens......CHOKE!!!!!....ben is always under pressure because he holds the ball forever looking for the big play....making it HAPPEN!!!!!!....its obvious who the better player is....first year starting he took us to the superbowl!!!! and won!!!!!in fact i think he beat a couple of marino rookie year records that year......look at the record......
well lets compare first year starting, numbers are pretty comparible aren't they guess it goes to show it was the bus and the Defense the won the superbowl.
14 295 196 66.4 21.1 2,621 8.9 187.2 17 5.8 11 3.7 58 43 7 30 213 98.1
16 337 220 65.3 21.1 2,903 8.6 181.4 19 5.6 13 3.9 56T 42 9 21 124 95.1
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#165 | 14 days ago

Actually I have a question for the creator of this 'poll' - - why did he compare apples to oranges???? Seems to me that it was just another person wanting to BASH AMERICA'S TEAM (cause everyone else in the league hates Dallas being called that) ... am really just sick of BASHERS - - why don't ya compare apples to apples (red delicious, golden delicious) and leave the rest of it alone.
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snow_leopard_princes wrote:
Actually I have a question for the creator of this 'poll' - - why did he compare apples to oranges???? Seems to me that it was just another person wanting to BASH AMERICA'S TEAM (cause everyone else in the league hates Dallas being called that) ... am really just sick of BASHERS - - why don't ya compare apples to apples (red delicious, golden delicious) and leave the rest of it alone.
If you look, I know it's hard to believe, but the creator of this poll actually lists both the Steelers and Cowboys as favorite teams.  I didn't think that was humanly possible.
 
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snow_leopard_princes wrote:
Huny I lubs ya more than my luggage but Jason Garrett is not the problem here ... the problem (I hate to say this) is Romo and his lack of confidence ... if he does not have confidence in his receivers (other than Witten) he is screwed.  Austin has stepped up (THANK GOD!!!) so hopefully Tony will STOP stepping on his own _ _ _ _ _ and be the leader he should be for this team.  Romo has to step up and stop trying to be EVERYONE's buddy - friend ... on the OFFENSIVE side - - on that FIELD he is the BOSS!  Once he learns that - - he will succeed ... BIG TIME!!!
sweety how much do you really know about football. tony romo doesn't lack confidence. one of the biggest knocks on him is he's a gun slinger like bret favre he will throw in to traffic and not think twice cause he knows he can do it. granted he has had his problems this year weth accuracy  but for the biggest part of his career his confidence has been fine. Jason garrett on the other hand called the play that had romo trow to his 4th receiver against the best cover corner in the league. twice to win the game. also the guy who doesn't consistantly use the 3 great running backs we have on the team. his play calling is questionable and defenses in the nfl have said over and over again it is too simple. so i contend that jason garrett is a major part of the problem.
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#168 | 14 days ago

kramer wrote:
If you look, I know it's hard to believe, but the creator of this poll actually lists both the Steelers and Cowboys as favorite teams.  I didn't think that was humanly possible.
 
UUUUMMMM Actually how can that be???? Cowboy fans despise two teams .... Washington Redskins and Pittsburg Steelers ( Joe 'the blowhard' Theiseman and Terry Bradshaw are the biggest reason why).
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snow_leopard_princes wrote:
UUUUMMMM Actually how can that be???? Cowboy fans despise two teams .... Washington Redskins and Pittsburg Steelers ( Joe 'the blowhard' Theiseman and Terry Bradshaw are the biggest reason why).
Thumbs up, respect and a toast to you.
I'm all out of respects and Q$... LOL
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#170 | 14 days ago

snow_leopard_princes wrote:
UUUUMMMM Actually how can that be???? Cowboy fans despise two teams .... Washington Redskins and Pittsburg Steelers ( Joe 'the blowhard' Theiseman and Terry Bradshaw are the biggest reason why).
Like I said, I didn't think that was possible.
 
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#171 | 14 days ago

snow_leopard_princes wrote:
UUUUMMMM Actually how can that be???? Cowboy fans despise two teams .... Washington Redskins and Pittsburg Steelers ( Joe 'the blowhard' Theiseman and Terry Bradshaw are the biggest reason why).
hey don't forget the eagles anymore thats a bigger rivalry in the division than the skins mostly cause they actually win some. but don't leave Donovan Mcfag out of the equation!!!
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#172 | 14 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
sweety how much do you really know about football. tony romo doesn't lack confidence. one of the biggest knocks on him is he's a gun slinger like bret favre he will throw in to traffic and not think twice cause he knows he can do it. granted he has had his problems this year weth accuracy  but for the biggest part of his career his confidence has been fine. Jason garrett on the other hand called the play that had romo trow to his 4th receiver against the best cover corner in the league. twice to win the game. also the guy who doesn't consistantly use the 3 great running backs we have on the team. his play calling is questionable and defenses in the nfl have said over and over again it is too simple. so i contend that jason garrett is a major part of the problem.
Actually 'sweety' I know quite a bit about football ...  Jason Garrett is not the problem.  You can say what you want ... the constitution allows that ... if Garrett was the problem then why are so many teams in the NFL trying to hire him away from the Cowboys???  Ultimately, the plays designed and used are done with the approval of Wade Phillips .... he is after all the head coach.  Tony too often allows his 'gun slinging butt' to over ride his common sense ... he is NOT Farve and therefore, he cannot do the things Farve did - - like just throw the thing and PRAY one of your receivers get there before the other team.  That is where the confidence factor comes into play ... he could do that some with Terrell Owens but even he wasn't able to do it every time.  
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#173 | 14 days ago

To my way of thinking, you have to have some shred of respect for a team BEFORE they can become your rival .... I have absolutely ZERO RESPECT for the Eagles ... especially after they signed Vickdawgfighter to their roster.
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#174 | 14 days ago

kramer wrote:
If you look, I know it's hard to believe, but the creator of this poll actually lists both the Steelers and Cowboys as favorite teams.  I didn't think that was humanly possible.
 
Well, I like both. I'm a devoted Steelers fan, because I live in Pittsburgh. But I became a Cowboys fan early in life for a rather odd reason. Back in the late 60s, Green Bay and Dallas were opponents in two classic NFL championship games. Now my mother grew up in Dumont, New Jersey, and attended St. Cecilia's Catholic High School, where her science and gym teacher was a mean old man named Vince Lombardi. So our family always rooted against the Packers, And that meant, for the Cowboys. And I've had a soft spot in my heart for them ever since, although maybe not so much after Landry was fired. Anyway, there is no comparison between Ben and Romo. Ben always finds a way to win the big game, and Romo always finds a way to lose it. Maybe this year he'll be better, but if I were selecting a QB, I'd actually choose Ben over any QB in the game, including Peyton.
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#175 | 14 days ago

good point. but wow your sayin you respect the skins i dont know about theat
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#176 | 13 days ago

bholly72 wrote:
Well, I like both. I'm a devoted Steelers fan, because I live in Pittsburgh. But I became a Cowboys fan early in life for a rather odd reason. Back in the late 60s, Green Bay and Dallas were opponents in two classic NFL championship games. Now my mother grew up in Dumont, New Jersey, and attended St. Cecilia's Catholic High School, where her science and gym teacher was a mean old man named Vince Lombardi. So our family always rooted against the Packers, And that meant, for the Cowboys. And I've had a soft spot in my heart for them ever since, although maybe not so much after Landry was fired. Anyway, there is no comparison between Ben and Romo. Ben always finds a way to win the big game, and Romo always finds a way to lose it. Maybe this year he'll be better, but if I were selecting a QB, I'd actually choose Ben over any QB in the game, including Peyton.
well you just showed your flaws ben is no where near the qb that payton, brady, brees, and others i would say he's maybe 7th in the leage right now for you to take him  over anyone shows bias hes not that great
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#177 | 13 days ago

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well you just showed your flaws ben is no where near the qb that payton, brady, brees, and others i would say he's maybe 7th in the leage right now for you to take him  over anyone shows bias hes not that great
Sounds like you are being bias, you said he is 7th in the league RIGHT NOW but the numbers beg differ and numbers don't lie.

1 Matt Schaub HOU QB 188 283 66.4 35.4 2,342 8.3 292.8 16 7 106 37.5 72T 31 8 13 100.5
2 Peyton Manning IND QB 187 263 71.1 37.6 2,227 8.5 318.1 15 4 104 39.5 80T 27 6 5 109.3
3 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 164 233 70.4 33.3 2,062 8.8 294.6 11 6 95 40.8 52T 29 8 20 102.6
4 Philip Rivers SD QB 142 238 59.7 34.0 2,036 8.6 290.9 11 4 92 38.7 81T 28 8 16 95.9
5 Tom Brady NE QB 179 273 65.6 39.0 2,032 7.4 290.3 15 4 102 37.4 54T 20 3 8 99.9
6 Drew Brees NO QB 157 230 68.3 32.9 2,006 8.7 286.6 16 6 94 40.9 66 29 3 11 107.6
7 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 147 225 65.3 32.1 1,989 8.8 284.1 14 2 90 40.0 71T 27 9 31 110.4
8 Brett Favre MIN QB 174 256 68.0 32.0 1,925 7.5 240.6 16 3 96 37.5 63 22 6 18 106.0
9 Kurt Warner ARI QB 185 283 65.4 40.4 1,914 6.8 273.4 11 11 100 35.3 44 17 2 14 81.5
10 Tony Romo DAL QB 138 230 60.0 32.9 1,908 8.3 272.6 12 4 82 35.7 80T 26 8 13 96.8
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#178 | 13 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
well you just showed your flaws ben is no where near the qb that payton, brady, brees, and others i would say he's maybe 7th in the leage right now for you to take him  over anyone shows bias hes not that great
Peyton may be a better passer. Ben is a better winner.
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#179 | 13 days ago

bholly72 wrote:
Peyton may be a better passer. Ben is a better winner.
really i think you once again better check some stats and once again ben has been protected most of his career he was never even asked to win games.
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#180 | 13 days ago

joe_lindberg wrote:
Sounds like you are being bias, you said he is 7th in the league RIGHT NOW but the numbers beg differ and numbers don't lie.

1 Matt Schaub HOU QB 188 283 66.4 35.4 2,342 8.3 292.8 16 7 106 37.5 72T 31 8 13 100.5
2 Peyton Manning IND QB 187 263 71.1 37.6 2,227 8.5 318.1 15 4 104 39.5 80T 27 6 5 109.3
3 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 164 233 70.4 33.3 2,062 8.8 294.6 11 6 95 40.8 52T 29 8 20 102.6
4 Philip Rivers SD QB 142 238 59.7 34.0 2,036 8.6 290.9 11 4 92 38.7 81T 28 8 16 95.9
5 Tom Brady NE QB 179 273 65.6 39.0 2,032 7.4 290.3 15 4 102 37.4 54T 20 3 8 99.9
6 Drew Brees NO QB 157 230 68.3 32.9 2,006 8.7 286.6 16 6 94 40.9 66 29 3 11 107.6
7 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 147 225 65.3 32.1 1,989 8.8 284.1 14 2 90 40.0 71T 27 9 31 110.4
8 Brett Favre MIN QB 174 256 68.0 32.0 1,925 7.5 240.6 16 3 96 37.5 63 22 6 18 106.0
9 Kurt Warner ARI QB 185 283 65.4 40.4 1,914 6.8 273.4 11 11 100 35.3 44 17 2 14 81.5
10 Tony Romo DAL QB 138 230 60.0 32.9 1,908 8.3 272.6 12 4 82 35.7 80T 26 8 13 96.8
wow are you serious you have this dumb list based on yards. like thats what matters lets look where is he at in int thrown where is he at yds per game or qb rating. and i'm talking about who the best qb's are numbers can be deceiving. because i don't know how many times i have to say this but it takes a team. lets look at who's around these qb's how about protection and who's catching the ball. YOUR KILLING ME PETEY!! lol
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#181 | 13 days ago

The title of this poll is-
Who Is Better, Tony Romo or Ben Roethlisberger? (Edited 10/29/09 04:13PM by kramer)
The Super Bowl is coming up soon, which QB is better?
Now all you keep talking about is in the past these numbers are from this year, any way I switch it around Ben doesn't drop below 5 except INT'S but Tony never get up to three either. With that said THIS YEAR not the past four year Ben's numbers are better than Tony's don't get me the season is not over they can change any given Sunday. Also as far as the line and receivers you are correct, but someone has to get the ball to those recoveries. Maybe you should start a POLL about QB numbers for the past 4-5 years Iam sure it would go over big, throw all the greats in there and we could have some good discussions. YOUR KILLING ME WITH THE PAST.LOL
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#182 | 13 days ago

 This question is a joke.  Romo isn't in Roelisberger's league.
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#183 | 12 days ago

Butter08 wrote:
 This question is a joke.  Romo isn't in Roelisberger's league.
You got that right.

There's not too many ways you can rearrange those numbers and have Romo come out higher/better.
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#184 | 12 days ago

Raiderzfan1318 wrote:
Are you guys referring to Tony "HOMO" otherwise I don't know who you guys are talking about!
Jealousy will get you no where!!! You just wish you could be hafl as good a QB as Romo.....
#185 | 12 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
you people make no sense ben didn't win the superbowl the steelers did and mostly with defense and a running game. are you really trying to tell me the ben is better than say Dan Marino. he didn't do much they won the superbowl in his two worst years.
i just took a guess, lol i don't keep up with either team. lmfao
my sister is a rmo fan.
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#186 | 12 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
back up are you serious tony romo has put up better numbers in his first 3 yrs than almost every qb in the league including BIG BEN. and ben has been protected with a great defense and running game. this is the first year he's done anything but manage games. and don't even go into romo can't win big games... thats what they said about payton manning and he is the best qb in the league and possible history.
Shabaazx are you serious?  Tony Romo didn't even touch the field in his first 3 NFL seasons.  Big Ben has had a great defense since his arrival but the running game and O-line have not been very good the last few years.  All Ben has done since becomming a starter is compile one of the best records of any starting quarterback in the history of the NFL, and oh yeah won 2 superbowl titles.  "This is the first year he has done anything but manage games?"  Tell me who has the most 4th quarter comebacks in the NFL since 2004?  I'll give you a hint, it isn't Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and definately isn't Tony Romo!!  And are you telling me that the Steelers defense won the superbowl against Arizona too?  Do yourself a favor and don't even mention Tony Romo in the same sentence as PEYTON Manning, because that is just rediculous.
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#187 | 12 days ago

wow are you really trying to imply that ben is anywhere near as good a qb as peyton or brady, your kidding right. Most 4th qtr comebacks there is a reason its not brady or manning they win games. they don't hope the defense will keep them in it for a chance. and just out of of curiosity where do you get your info lets compare first 3 seasons as a starter. BEN 11-5 11-5 8-8 grand total of 30-18 ROMO 9-7 13-3 9-7 grand total 31-17. so Romo has amassed more regular season wins in his first 3 seasons and if you look at the comparison for the same years totals are the same. and this year they have the same record so exactly how what on gods green earth are you talking about. and yes there defense won an enormous amount of the games he has played in look at the scores. and their rushing attack struggled last year 2007 3rd in nfl 2006 10th not to bad huh maybe you should know about your own damn team.
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#188 | 12 days ago

Don't you love it when someone asks an OPINION poll and someone has to rebut every comment they disagree with by being ignorant to everyone else and trying to pass their OPINION off as FACT?
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#189 | 12 days ago

ok here are all the regular season number comparisons if you can't pick up the obvious after this your just a steelers fan who never will.
this is what ben has had to play with
2004
  14 295 196 66.4 21.1 2,621 8.9 187.2 17 5.8 11 3.7 58 43 7 30 213 98.1
def 1st in points allowed
2nd in rushing
2005
  12 268 168 62.7 22.3 2,385 8.9 198.8 17 6.3 9 3.4 85T 35 12 23 129 98.6
3rd in D
5th in rushing
2006
  15 469 280 59.7 31.3 3,513 7.5 234.2 18 3.8 23 4.9 67T 42 7 46 280 75.4
11 in d
10th in rushin
2007
15 404 264 65.3 26.9 3,154 7.8 210.3 32 7.9 11 2.7 83 39 6 47 347 104.1
2nd in d
3rd in rushing
2008
  16 469 281 59.9 29.3 3,301 7.0 206.3 17 3.6 15 3.2 65T 35 7 46 284 80.1
1st in D
23rd in rushing
2009
  7 233 164 70.4 33.3 2,062 8.8 294.6 11 4.7 6 2.6 52T 29 8 20 136 102.6
4th in D
19th in rushing

now Romo
2006
16 337 220 65.3 21.1 2,903 8.6 181.4 19 5.6 13 3.9 56T 42 9 21 124 95.1
20th in D
13 in rushing
2007
16 337 220 65.3 21.1 2,903 8.6 181.4 19 5.6 13 3.9 56T 42 9 21 124 95.1
13th in D
17th in rushing
2008
13 450 276 61.3 34.6 3,448 7.7 265.2 26 5.8 14 3.1 75T 48 11 20 123 91.4
7th in D
21 in rushing
2009
  8 264 159 60.2 33.0 2,215 8.4 276.9 13 4.9 5 1.9 80T 31 10 17 88 95.8
7th in D
8th in rushing


in conclusion looking at these numbers Romo has averaged more yds more td's less ints and putt up more regular season wins by 1 in his first 3 years as a starter. so you can see the running game and D have been a lot better in pittsburgh. now once and for all. the difference in the two is very small. and when all is said and done romo will be the better QB be assured. all kidding aside pit fans please sstop poppin off with this trash when you don't know what your talking about. thank you
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#190 | 12 days ago

kramer wrote:
Don't you love it when someone asks an OPINION poll and someone has to rebut every comment they disagree with by being ignorant to everyone else and trying to pass their OPINION off as FACT?
as for me i just like to have something to back up my opinions maybe for you its ok to pop off with info that isn't true to support your opinion. but i like my facts to be straight when supporting my opionions.
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#191 | 12 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
as for me i just like to have something to back up my opinions maybe for you its ok to pop off with info that isn't true to support your opinion. but i like my facts to be straight when supporting my opionions.
I am not spouting off info just to back up what I say.  I am through with this poll because people cannot have a civil discussion.  Those who are not being civil know who they are, the end.
 
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#192 | 12 days ago

OH GOOD GRIEF .... the amount of testosterone in here is enough to KILL a person .... Little Boys ... this HORSE is D E A D!!! Stop beating it to death and move on!  

You all sound like a bunch of little boys on the play ground - - my daddy can kick your daddy's butt - - S T O P
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#193 | 11 days ago

What's funny is Shabazz implies Peyton and Brady don't need 4th QTR comebacks, they're too good and thier teams are too good for them. HMMM, it's not like they've never had 4th QTR comebacks. John Elway and Joe Montana were INFAMOUS for orchistrating 4th QTR comebacks. As for passer rating that stat is so convoluted it's ridiculous, so much goes into it i.e Divide a QB's pass completions by attempts then subtract 0.3 then divide that number by 0.2 Record the total.  Divide passing yards by attempts subtract by 3 then divde by 4 and record that total.  Divide TD pass by pass attempt then divide that by 0.05 record the total. Divide INT's per attempt and subtract that by 0.095 then divide that number by 0.04 and record the total.  Add the 4 totals you record then multiply by 100 and divide by 6 and you'll get the QB rating.
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#194 | 11 days ago

snow_leopard_princes wrote:
To my way of thinking, you have to have some shred of respect for a team BEFORE they can become your rival .... I have absolutely ZERO RESPECT for the Eagles ... especially after they signed Vickdawgfighter to their roster.
What's funny about this is you have ZERO respect for the Eagles signing Vick but I wonder if you're so "UP IN ARMS" so to speak about Leonard Little continuing his NFL career. Perhaps you'll be "up in arms" when Donte Stallworth returns next year barring a lock out? I've had Pit Bulls my entire life, they're the greatest dogs in the world ( my opinion ) Never not once have I fought them nor have they ever bitten anyone. Now having said that, when in America did we value the life of an animal over that of a humans? Peta are the only people I know who would step over a human bleeding to death in a gutter to save an animal. As for Vick he wont be in Philly next year I doubt they excersize the option. Yeah Vick did horrible and unforgivable acts but so did the two I mentioned. Had the eagles not signed Vick someone else would have, LOL it's so hypocritical for Cowboys fans to bash the Eagles over signing Vick cause last time I check Jerry Jones wasn't afraid to keep and or sign criminals. You can say well they didn't do anywhere near what Vick did. Wrong is Wrong
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#195 | 11 days ago

wow are you really trying to imply that ben is anywhere near as good a qb as peyton or brady, your kidding right. Most 4th qtr comebacks there is a reason its not brady or manning they win games. they don't hope the defense will keep them in it for a chance. and just out of of curiosity where do you get your info lets compare first 3 seasons as a starter. BEN 11-5 11-5 8-8 grand total of 30-18 ROMO 9-7 13-3 9-7 grand total 31-17. so Romo has amassed more regular season wins in his first 3 seasons and if you look at the comparison for the same years totals are the same. and this year they have the same record so exactly how what on gods green earth are you talking about. and yes there defense won an enormous amount of the games he has played in look at the scores. and their rushing attack struggled last year 2007 3rd in nfl 2006 10th not to bad huh maybe you should know about your own damn team.
Shabazz I would like to know where you got your information from?  You say that Ben had an 11-5 record in his first season, it's funny that you are leaving out his rookie season which he was the STARTER for all but the first game of the year (the only game they lost that year).  He became the first quarterback in league history to complie a 13-0 record during the regular season that year and also broke Dan Marino's rookie record for completion percentage and passer rating.  Big Ben's 51 wins in his first five seasons are the most by any QB in league history, surpassing such QBs as Otto Graham, Dan Marino, Tom Brady and John Elway - that is a fact, you might want to get yours straight since you are so big on researching statistics.  So give it a rest you have lost all credibilty with the false statements you have made.
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#196 | 11 days ago

i don't know why everybody talks about how good the quarterback is-- he is know better than the line that is blocking for him -- if a couple of those liniman side step a few of those blocks we will see who's the better QB that's how u tell whether u have a QB or not getting away from the lineman coming at him when they miss a block and neither one is very good --- although i'm a die heart pittsburg fan an i'm a little bias-- i think big ben will move faster than romo in that case 
#197 | 11 days ago

qtowndogg wrote:
Haha, not Tony Romo.
cool
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#198 | 11 days ago

jigga_2_k wrote:
What's funny about this is you have ZERO respect for the Eagles signing Vick but I wonder if you're so "UP IN ARMS" so to speak about Leonard Little continuing his NFL career. Perhaps you'll be "up in arms" when Donte Stallworth returns next year barring a lock out? I've had Pit Bulls my entire life, they're the greatest dogs in the world ( my opinion ) Never not once have I fought them nor have they ever bitten anyone. Now having said that, when in America did we value the life of an animal over that of a humans? Peta are the only people I know who would step over a human bleeding to death in a gutter to save an animal. As for Vick he wont be in Philly next year I doubt they excersize the option. Yeah Vick did horrible and unforgivable acts but so did the two I mentioned. Had the eagles not signed Vick someone else would have, LOL it's so hypocritical for Cowboys fans to bash the Eagles over signing Vick cause last time I check Jerry Jones wasn't afraid to keep and or sign criminals. You can say well they didn't do anywhere near what Vick did. Wrong is Wrong
Personally ALL THREE PLUS Ricky Williams ~ should be BANNED from PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL FOREVER!!!  They had their chance and they blew it! OVER and OUT!!! This is NOT the type of role model that our children need today and in the future.  This fiddle faddle about suspensions without pay and whatever else they use is only one thing A PATHETIC  EXCUSE!!!!!  Dag nab it, I was against Jones signing ??? dang, can't even remember his name right now ... Any way - if they have committed a MAJOR FELONY - - good-bye ..... sssseeeeeeeeeee yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaa don't the let the door hit ya on the way O U T !!!

Until the fans stand up and say ... 'we do not want trash like that representing our city' nothing will change.  I would like the NFL Commissioner to take a stand and say ... This ain't baseball boys & girls ... here one strike and you're out!!!  These four little boys should never be allowed the privilege of playing in the National Football League again.

Murder is murder ~ accidental or not - - someone is still dead.  They should not be able to make millions of dollars and act like nothing happened.  Drugs are drugs - gambling is gambling .... Cruelty to any person or animal is wrong!!!

Also, for the record .... we DIEHARD DALLAS COWBOY FANS bashed Jerry Jones good and hard over more than a few of his past acquisitions ... but only "We" can bash him until there is no skin left .... you keep your cotton picking hands off!!! 


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#199 | 10 days ago

SAK2100 wrote:
wow are you really trying to imply that ben is anywhere near as good a qb as peyton or brady, your kidding right. Most 4th qtr comebacks there is a reason its not brady or manning they win games. they don't hope the defense will keep them in it for a chance. and just out of of curiosity where do you get your info lets compare first 3 seasons as a starter. BEN 11-5 11-5 8-8 grand total of 30-18 ROMO 9-7 13-3 9-7 grand total 31-17. so Romo has amassed more regular season wins in his first 3 seasons and if you look at the comparison for the same years totals are the same. and this year they have the same record so exactly how what on gods green earth are you talking about. and yes there defense won an enormous amount of the games he has played in look at the scores. and their rushing attack struggled last year 2007 3rd in nfl 2006 10th not to bad huh maybe you should know about your own damn team.
Shabazz I would like to know where you got your information from?  You say that Ben had an 11-5 record in his first season, it's funny that you are leaving out his rookie season which he was the STARTER for all but the first game of the year (the only game they lost that year).  He became the first quarterback in league history to complie a 13-0 record during the regular season that year and also broke Dan Marino's rookie record for completion percentage and passer rating.  Big Ben's 51 wins in his first five seasons are the most by any QB in league history, surpassing such QBs as Otto Graham, Dan Marino, Tom Brady and John Elway - that is a fact, you might want to get yours straight since you are so big on researching statistics.  So give it a rest you have lost all credibilty with the false statements you have made.
just so you know i just compared the 3 full years both had started but after that i did a full comparison with every year as well as defense rank and rushing rank see message 189 and still romo is on course to beat bens win loss over his first 5 seasons as a starter. with a lesser defense and rushing over the course of that time. so with that you have all the info its a moot point to argue untill they are done. i'm done with this argument i've made point after point with accurate numbers that show romo ahead in most statistical catagories. so with that i leave this place and hope to see all of you on the next poll. if fans can't argue in fun about who's team, qb, rb whatever is better then all in sports has been lost its been fun. see ya around
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#200 | 10 days ago

RookyRyder83655 wrote:
ahhh; come on now! Look at stats. so far.
Lmao I beg Tooo Differ Sometimes The stats Reallyyyyy Lie Look @ the 2 Superbowl Titles Big Ben done lead us Too Wooohoooo Keep up the work Big Ben You are Da man!!!!!!
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#201 | 10 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
and just so you know romo has thrown for more yds in less games his first 4 years.
Do None of you romo fans see why he throws so many yards lmao Trying to make up for his or one of his team mates screw ups and moving down the field and rot roh no score so what he can throw the ball dont do him no good if he dont get it over the line of the end zone hellooo!!!!
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#202 | 10 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
here is your 4 yr comparison

2006 ben 75.4 passer rating 18 td 23int Romo 95.1 passer rating 19 td 13 ints
2007         104.1 PR                       32 td 11int Romo 97.4                           36td 19 ints
2008 Ben 80.1 PR                   17td 15 int Romo 91.4 PR                    26 td 14 ints
2009 ben 102.6 PR                 11 td 6 int Romo 94.7 PR                       9 td   4 ints
                avg PR 90.5                                            avg PR 94.5
                td/int 78/55                                               td/int 90/50
                avg per yr 19.5/13.75                             avg per yr 22.5/12.5

Who is more consistent and who is better tell me again so i can make some sense of all your nonsense
lol well who is wearing the ring like i said them stats lie cuz i didnt see the boys hangin with the big dogs 4/sure ! Big Ben is Wearing the Ring:P
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#203 | 10 days ago

shabaazx wrote:
bottom line romo's numbers ARE better and more consistent truth is he hasn't won in the playoffs. (it takes a whole team to do that!) and Romo plays for Americas team and is scrutinized more because of it
Americas Team Hell I live 2 hours From Texas Stadium lmao only way you could drag me there was If Big Ben
Came to town hehe  The houston Texans are closer to being americas Team if ya ask me lol that americas team bull use to be true back in the good ole days when Tom and roger were around if you even know who they were haha
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#204 | 10 days ago

Butter08 wrote:
 This question is a joke.  Romo isn't in Roelisberger's league.
amen to that he sho aint lol
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#205 | 10 days ago

I'm not a big fan of Big Ben, but he has won 2 Super Bowls.  And no, that doesn't make him a great QB, but definitely better than Romo (so far).  Romo has not won a playoff game and has choked quite a bit late in the season.  He needs to get past those two things before this question really should be asked.
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#206 | 10 days ago

(Edited by vindog)
Even as a Cowboys fan, I will agree that Big Ben is (or has been) the better QB of the two. Now, with that said, Romo appears to be improving somewhat and has actually won a BIG GAME (in Philly of Sunday Night) as of late. Of course Roethlisberger has the rings and such, but the Steelers have also had the better team as well. The Cowboys have improved greatly this season and are holding tough atop the NFC East with a 6-2 record (precisely the same record as the Steelers).....   I will not say that Romo IS the better QB just yet (that would be a falsehood), but he definitely has the "potential" to eventually be the better of the two. I find also interesting that "some people" feel the need to compare a Two Time Super Bowl Winning QB (and 1st round draft pick) with an UNDRAFTED Free Agent that has ONLY had the opportunity to play in TWO Playoff games- kinda silly don't you think.  When a QB loses a game- it is a TEAM EFFORT in ALL CASES- not the fault of one lone individual and as I stated, the Steelers have been loaded with much better players than the Cowboys have had (until recently that is)!
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#207 | 10 days ago

JIC95 wrote:
i havent been payin attention to tony but i know t.o. doin good but fyi i know a lot bout football it's my sport
Really? Well since " you know alot about football, because it is your sport", then You would know that T.O. stats this season are : 23 receptions for 281 yards and 1 TD.....  That works out to 2.8 receptions per game and 35 yards per game!  LOL  These stats are perhaps the WORST numbers for ANY #1 Wide Receiver in the NFL this season!   So, NO, Terrell Owens is NOT doing good this season- in fact, he is HORRIBLE!    LMAO
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#208 | 9 days ago

snow_leopard_princes wrote:
Personally ALL THREE PLUS Ricky Williams ~ should be BANNED from PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL FOREVER!!!  They had their chance and they blew it! OVER and OUT!!! This is NOT the type of role model that our children need today and in the future.  This fiddle faddle about suspensions without pay and whatever else they use is only one thing A PATHETIC  EXCUSE!!!!!  Dag nab it, I was against Jones signing ??? dang, can't even remember his name right now ... Any way - if they have committed a MAJOR FELONY - - good-bye ..... sssseeeeeeeeeee yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaa don't the let the door hit ya on the way O U T !!!

Until the fans stand up and say ... 'we do not want trash like that representing our city' nothing will change.  I would like the NFL Commissioner to take a stand and say ... This ain't baseball boys & girls ... here one strike and you're out!!!  These four little boys should never be allowed the privilege of playing in the National Football League again.

Murder is murder ~ accidental or not - - someone is still dead.  They should not be able to make millions of dollars and act like nothing happened.  Drugs are drugs - gambling is gambling .... Cruelty to any person or animal is wrong!!!

Also, for the record .... we DIEHARD DALLAS COWBOY FANS bashed Jerry Jones good and hard over more than a few of his past acquisitions ... but only "We" can bash him until there is no skin left .... you keep your cotton picking hands off!!! 


I completely agree with some of that. Were you meaning Tank Johnson?? A percentage of players feel like it's thier god given right to play football, they don't see it as a priviledge. Just like Kevin and Pat Williams in Minnesota, how the hell are they still playing? Any athlete who says they didn't know what they're taking is full of crap, they know if you take a banned substance you're getting suspended, if you're not sure don't take it. Roger Goodell should implement a 3 strike rule and yes if you commit a major felony you should be kicked out of the league.
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#209 | 9 days ago

 IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM PITTSBURGH STELEERS
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#210 | 9 days ago

Big Ben is great
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#211 | 9 days ago
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Daniel_and_Becca wrote:
Big Ben is great
I'm a Cowboys fan,but not much of a fan of Romo.
#212 | 9 days ago

Daniel_and_Becca wrote:
Big Ben is great
For the record, 'Big Ben' is a Clock Tower in England.
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#213 | 9 days ago

Daniel_and_Becca wrote:
Big Ben is great
For the record, 'Big Ben' is a Clock Tower in England.
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#214 | 8 days ago

snow_leopard_princes wrote:
For the record, 'Big Ben' is a Clock Tower in England.
Big Ben is also a 6'5", 241 lb NFL QB.  There is a reason he has that nickname.
 
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#215 | 8 days ago

vindog wrote:
Even as a Cowboys fan, I will agree that Big Ben is (or has been) the better QB of the two. Now, with that said, Romo appears to be improving somewhat and has actually won a BIG GAME (in Philly of Sunday Night) as of late. Of course Roethlisberger has the rings and such, but the Steelers have also had the better team as well. The Cowboys have improved greatly this season and are holding tough atop the NFC East with a 6-2 record (precisely the same record as the Steelers).....   I will not say that Romo IS the better QB just yet (that would be a falsehood), but he definitely has the "potential" to eventually be the better of the two. I find also interesting that "some people" feel the need to compare a Two Time Super Bowl Winning QB (and 1st round draft pick) with an UNDRAFTED Free Agent that has ONLY had the opportunity to play in TWO Playoff games- kinda silly don't you think.  When a QB loses a game- it is a TEAM EFFORT in ALL CASES- not the fault of one lone individual and as I stated, the Steelers have been loaded with much better players than the Cowboys have had (until recently that is)!
I hear what your saying about comparing 1st round draft picks picks to later round or undrafted free agents. But people compare Brady and Manning. The heat cam on Romo when ESPN started claiming him number 3 behind Brady and Manning. Everyone is going to have to face it sooner or later. We have the most good to great quarterbacks in the league right now than we have seen in a long time. Maybe ever. There are just so many.
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#216 | 8 days ago

kramer wrote:
Big Ben is also a 6'5", 241 lb NFL QB.  There is a reason he has that nickname.
 
Big Ben!
#217 | 8 days ago

Ok Ok we can settle this. They both Play green bay this year so whoever destroys that defence the best is the better QB. There settled
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#218 | 8 days ago

if you simply go by how many super bowl rings the have, which is the measuring stick of the NFL, you would have to go with Big Ben.
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#219 | 8 days ago

luvinmylabs wrote:
Do None of you romo fans see why he throws so many yards lmao Trying to make up for his or one of his team mates screw ups and moving down the field and rot roh no score so what he can throw the ball dont do him no good if he dont get it over the line of the end zone hellooo!!!!
he's scored more td's too
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#220 | 6 days ago

kramer wrote:
Big Ben is also a 6'5", 241 lb NFL QB.  There is a reason he has that nickname.
 
not as far as I am concerned it isn't .... nothing BIG about him that I am aware of except maybe his ego .... darlin, living in Texas we have high school boys that size playing QB ... nuthing that I ain't seen before and will surely see again!
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#221 | 6 days ago

snow_leopard_princes wrote:
not as far as I am concerned it isn't .... nothing BIG about him that I am aware of except maybe his ego .... darlin, living in Texas we have high school boys that size playing QB ... nuthing that I ain't seen before and will surely see again!
 As an NFL QB he is very big.  I don't care what people think of him, he was given the nickname because of his size, whether people like it or not.
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#222 | 5 days ago
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well neither of them got the job done this weekend
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#223 | 5 days ago

redneck_chick wrote:
well neither of them got the job done this weekend
here is ma yahoo id: binhoblings_obama@yahoo.com ........ meet u there
#224 | 5 days ago

WV_Mountaineer wrote:
What rhymes with Romo.
What rhymes with Rottenburger?
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#225 | 4 days ago

Ben's 2 Super Bowl rings lead me to believe that he is better by a country mile.  Ben is 2 years younger than Romo and all Romo has to his resume is  Carrie Underwood, Sophia Bush, Jessica Simpson, none of them seem to bring him any luck in winning "the big games" that he needed to win to get over the top.
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#226 | 4 days ago

Superbleeder wrote:
Theres a problem.  I cant find the "neither" answer.
That's because they weren't asking you which of your 2 brain cells you had left, c'mon! lol
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#227 | 4 days ago

I couldn't have said it better if I was SCREAMING into a megaphone atop the highest mountain between Pittsburgh & Dallas!!!  They may as well compare Brady Quinn to Tom Brady while they're at it!!! omg
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