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Class of 2001? Ichiro, Albert or Both?
I was looking at some numbers today between two of baseball's biggest stars from 2001..Albert Pujols and Ichiro. Both players started playing in 2001. Ichiro was not drafted and Pujols was drafted in the 13th round. Here are the nunmbers:

Pujols:
Games           AB      Runs       Hits       2B     3B     HR       RBI       BB         K     SB   CS     AVG     OBP     SLG      OPD
1375 5056 1058 1686 377 14 363 1095 797 562 59 30 .333 .427 .629 1.056
 
Ichiro

1402 5999 962 2000 224 67 81 506 405 582 339 78 .333 .378 .434 .812
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Question 1: Will Albert Pujols make the Hall of Fame?
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Question 2: Will Ichiro make the Hall of Fame?
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#2 | 76 days ago

Pujols OPS-- still well over 1 after almost nine full seasons-- is almost silly. Those are Ruthian numbers.

Ichiro is obviously a different breed of player, but I'm surprised he's behind in runs scored. It's simply amazing he's already reached 2000 hits is simply amazing. By way of comparison, Todd Helton has a lifetime BA above .320 but has been in the league since 1997 and only reached 2000 earlier this year. If Ichiro can keep up the 200+ per season pace, he has a shot to reach 3000, at age 40. Combine that with the 1200+ hits he recorded in Japan and he's in company with only Rose and Cobb. Plus he's fast and an excellent fielder with a plus-plus throwing arm, and he's showing no sign of his skills declining with age.

Pujols is, well, special. He's a once-in-a-generation kind of player, a name that will one day be spoken in the same sentence with Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio, Williams, Mays, Mantle, Aaron. With no apologies to A-Rod, he's the greatest Hispanic position player since Roberto Clemente. In the long run that really doesn't matter but I mention just because if you look at that list of names I just mentioned, the elite echelon has always been occupied by first white and then African American ballplayers. The Latin influence on the game has become dominating but not until this decade have two players of that ethnicity emerged to challenge the very top, and I don't really count A-Rod because he was born American. Pujols is transcedent.

As long as neither ever become connected to PEDs or any other questionable ethics, both Pujols and Suzuki will make the Hall of Fame.
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#1 | 76 days ago
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Pujols is a lock.

Kirby Puckett got in and I think Ichiro will too.
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#2 | 76 days ago

Pujols OPS-- still well over 1 after almost nine full seasons-- is almost silly. Those are Ruthian numbers.

Ichiro is obviously a different breed of player, but I'm surprised he's behind in runs scored. It's simply amazing he's already reached 2000 hits is simply amazing. By way of comparison, Todd Helton has a lifetime BA above .320 but has been in the league since 1997 and only reached 2000 earlier this year. If Ichiro can keep up the 200+ per season pace, he has a shot to reach 3000, at age 40. Combine that with the 1200+ hits he recorded in Japan and he's in company with only Rose and Cobb. Plus he's fast and an excellent fielder with a plus-plus throwing arm, and he's showing no sign of his skills declining with age.

Pujols is, well, special. He's a once-in-a-generation kind of player, a name that will one day be spoken in the same sentence with Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio, Williams, Mays, Mantle, Aaron. With no apologies to A-Rod, he's the greatest Hispanic position player since Roberto Clemente. In the long run that really doesn't matter but I mention just because if you look at that list of names I just mentioned, the elite echelon has always been occupied by first white and then African American ballplayers. The Latin influence on the game has become dominating but not until this decade have two players of that ethnicity emerged to challenge the very top, and I don't really count A-Rod because he was born American. Pujols is transcedent.

As long as neither ever become connected to PEDs or any other questionable ethics, both Pujols and Suzuki will make the Hall of Fame.
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#3 | 74 days ago

Not only do they put up Hall of fame stats, but they seem to be class individuals who let their on field activities highlight their lives.   I am fans of both and like to see them do well.  May we have more players like these, please?
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#4 | 74 days ago

 whoever voted for Ichiro to not make the hall of fame should learn their baseball.
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#5 | 73 days ago

Both... Without Question
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#6 | 3 days ago

Both certainly have put up stats that have never been seen before, and may never be reached in the future! Without a doubt, they will both be First-Ballot inductees.
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