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Cardinals' New Batting Coach
The newest bombshell is the St. Louis Cardinals have hired former First Baseman, Mark McGwire, to replace Hal McRae for 2010.
| Closed on 04/05/10 at 01:30PM
FanIQ Pts? No | MLB, St. Louis Cardinals, NL Central | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll
Teams:  St. Louis Cardinals
Players:  Mark McGwire
Team Breakout:
34 Fans 
 1. Good Idea? (0 points)
35%a. Great Idea! He will help the team, like he has Matt Holliday and Skip Shumaker
6%b. Bad Idea! He was a power guy, not an averages guy
6%c. Horrible Idea! Can you say steroids?
41%d. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea
6%e. PR Move! LaRussa is only doing this to sell tickets
0%f. Nepotism! LaRussa is only doing this to get an old friend a job
6%g. OTHER - please explain
 2. Distraction? (0 points)
29%a. Of course it is! The media will make a zoo out of it
9%b. No Way! It's over - no one cares any more
56%c. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good
6%d. OTHER - please explain
 3. Selig Seal of Approval?!? (0 points)
65%a. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!
24%b. Bud still has his head buried in the sand. What are you doing giving your blessing?!?
0%c. Allan, you idiot! You're opening Pandora's Box to more steroids scandal.
12%d. OTHER - please explain
 4. Outcome? (0 points)
26%a. Cardinals become a great hitting team
12%b. Cardinals improve their average, but not their power
21%c. Cardinals improve their power, but not their average
3%d. Cardinals turn into strikeout artists
6%e. Cardinals tank
15%f. Big Mac wilts under the scrutiny and resigns before the season starts
0%g. LaRussa and his staff are all fired midseason
18%h. OTHER - Please explain

  
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#1 | 1751 days ago

Say what you will about Mac, he was a good hitter, the steroids or HGH what ever gave him the strength to hit the HRs but his hand eye coordination made it possible.  If he can pass that along more power to him.

I think he is looking to give back to a sport that gave him so much.
1. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea  2. No Way! It's over - no one cares any more  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. Cardinals improve their average, but not their power  
#2 | 1745 days ago

McGwire becoming hitting coach is the second best thing that's happened to us this year! (next to signing Holliday)
1. Great Idea! He will help the team, like he has Matt Holliday and Skip Shumaker  2. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. Cardinals improve their power, but not their average  
#3 | 1744 days ago
jasonwrites (+)

He may be a good change. It seems he's helped Holliday, and he trusts McGwire. If it helps them keep Holliday, then it's obviously a smart move. I think the fans in St. Louis will warm up to having him again. I don't have much respect left for him, but I bear no ill will either, so if you're a Cardinals fan, I hope this works out for you.
1. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea  2. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. Cardinals improve their power, but not their average  
#4 | 1744 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Most Cardinal fans are going to welcome him with open arms, standing ovations and all of the amenities of a conquering hero can have bestowed upon him. Their love exceeds that of Barry Bonds in San Francisco, who did far worse to the sport, yet is still an idol in the Bay Area!

The question is whether this move is a solid, strategical move, or a publicity stunt. As one that has bled Cardinal Red longer than he's been alive, I hope BOTH!
1. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea  2. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. Big Mac wilts under the scrutiny and resigns before the season starts  
#5 | 1744 days ago

 Signing Mark McGwire as hitting coach is a really good thing hes gonna help improve their homeruns and rbi's in a game and theyre gonna win alot more games.
1. Great Idea! He will help the team, like he has Matt Holliday and Skip Shumaker  2. No Way! It's over - no one cares any more  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. Cardinals become a great hitting team  
#6 | 1743 days ago

 
1. OTHER - please explain  2. OTHER - please explain  3. OTHER - please explain  4. OTHER - Please explain  
#7 | 1743 days ago
BDV4U (+)

oxbench wrote:
 
WOW, oxbench, you don't mince words, do you? 
1. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea  2. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. Big Mac wilts under the scrutiny and resigns before the season starts  
#8 | 1743 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
WOW, oxbench, you don't mince words, do you? 
 A mans gotta do what a mans gotta do...
1. OTHER - please explain  2. OTHER - please explain  3. OTHER - please explain  4. OTHER - Please explain  
#9 | 1726 days ago

Well...  I have heard he has helped other players on his own.  That some players have gone to his southern California home to get his help.  But come on...  Let's be honest....  How much can a Major League batting coach REALY do?

Aside from the media circus that will surround the team com March...  Former star players have rarely been hits as coaches or managers.
1. OTHER - please explain  2. Of course it is! The media will make a zoo out of it  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. OTHER - Please explain  
#10 | 1714 days ago

The only way this has any chance of not being a distraction is if Mark McGwire faces and owns up to what he has done.  He doesnt have to necessarily tell everybody all the details but it would nice for him to admit that he made a couple of mistakes, apologize for past transgressions and then tell everybody he is here to help, not hinder the Cardinal organization.  Call a press conference on the first day of spring training, read a prepared statement, take a few questions and then hopefully everybody will move on.  It worked with Andy Pettite and it worked with Alex Rodriguez, I see no reason why it wouldnt work with McGwire
1. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea  2. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good  3. Bud still has his head buried in the sand. What are you doing giving your blessing?!?  4. Cardinals improve their average, but not their power  
#11 | 1608 days ago

So far, all signs seem to be pointing towards only good things for McGwire as hitting coach.  He's embraced his role as a coach, offered sound advice to players without being a distraction and has given more time to fans now then he did when he was a player.  Let's see what happens when the real season starts and the team has a week or so when the struggle offensively
1. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea  2. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good  3. Bud still has his head buried in the sand. What are you doing giving your blessing?!?  4. Cardinals improve their average, but not their power  
#12 | 1608 days ago

I work in retail and I have a lady who brings in homegrown produce to our store.  She knew I was on vacation early in March to go watch the Cardinals in spring training and after I got back, she asked me what I thought about McGwire being the Cardinal hitting coach.  I told her while I dont approve of what he did as a player, I dont have any problem with him wanting to get back into the game and be a coach.  She went off about how much of a liar he is, how despicable he is and how he's full of bs and not worthy of coaching.  I asked her how she knew what McGwire was teaching and that just because he didnt admit his steroid use up to her standards, that didnt mean he shouldnt be allowed to make a living of his own.  I agree, what's done is done and while alot of people may not like the way things went down, it's time for everybody to move on.  I'm hoping that media members and other "fans" dont have there own personal agendas and try to drag this out longer then what it should be.  Even A-Rod was given a pass after coming "clean".  Now, he's a hero in New York
1. Wait-n-See! He could help, or he could hurt - have no idea  2. Could be! This is Big Mac's chance to bury the problem for good  3. Bud still has his head buried in the sand. What are you doing giving your blessing?!?  4. Cardinals improve their average, but not their power  
#13 | 1608 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

 Do you think the first lesson will be the big end is the end you try to hit with? 
1. Bad Idea! He was a power guy, not an averages guy  2. Of course it is! The media will make a zoo out of it  3. Bud still has his head buried in the sand. What are you doing giving your blessing?!?  4. Cardinals tank  
#14 | 1608 days ago

My observations of this whole thing is that pretty much only media members and a handful of overly righteous fans even care about the steroid thing.  Most of the fans don't seem to be bothered that much by it.  This should not be confused with condoning it....  But most don't seem to care. 
1. OTHER - please explain  2. Of course it is! The media will make a zoo out of it  3. It really is over. Andro was legal in 1998 - get over it!  4. OTHER - Please explain  
#15 | 1608 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

 Lmao, can you believe that sh!t? 
1. Bad Idea! He was a power guy, not an averages guy  2. Of course it is! The media will make a zoo out of it  3. Bud still has his head buried in the sand. What are you doing giving your blessing?!?  4. Cardinals tank  
#16 | 1608 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

 Oh crap! The makers of the chairs are flippin Cardinal fans. 
1. Bad Idea! He was a power guy, not an averages guy  2. Of course it is! The media will make a zoo out of it  3. Bud still has his head buried in the sand. What are you doing giving your blessing?!?  4. Cardinals tank  
#17 | 1608 days ago

Scott wrote:
I work in retail and I have a lady who brings in homegrown produce to our store.  She knew I was on vacation early in March to go watch the Cardinals in spring training and after I got back, she asked me what I thought about McGwire being the Cardinal hitting coach.  I told her while I dont approve of what he did as a player, I dont have any problem with him wanting to get back into the game and be a coach.  She went off about how much of a liar he is, how despicable he is and how he's full of bs and not worthy of coaching.  I asked her how she knew what McGwire was teaching and that just because he didnt admit his steroid use up to her standards, that didnt mean he shouldnt be allowed to make a living of his own.  I agree, what's done is done and while alot of people may not like the way things went down, it's time for everybody to move on.  I'm hoping that media members and other "fans" dont have there own personal agendas and try to drag this out longer then what it should be.  Even A-Rod was given a pass after coming "clean".  Now, he's a hero in New York
Everyone has forgotten the thrill and excitement that was so prevalant when MacGuire and Sousa were in that HR hitting race. Baseball was dying as a past time and they were responsible for it's resurection. Both were on steroids, both hit a ton of HR's just as Bond has done. People pay good money to see someone hit HR's and if they take steroids and ruin their bodies for the sake of our entertainment I say let them. Big deal if the old guys didn't have the chance to use it. I bet they did other stuff to cheat. Yeah, I know, it's a different game now. No brush backs, no bean balls, none of the stuff that was allowed when it was a game decided by the players and not by some stupid rules committee. I say if a pitcher objects to someone taking steroids or any other performance enhancing drug they should be allowed to bean the guy like they used to do. Bring back old time baseball and stop all this wineing about who's cheated and who hasn't. The game itself is based on cheating. Take a look at the catcher. One of his primary jobs is to cheat by tricking the umpire into calling a strike when the ball is outside the zone. It's not called cheating, it's called "framing the ball" to me that's still cheating.

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