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Yankees......... Love or Hate?
What do you think?
Love or hate the New York Yankees?
| Closed on 12/19/09 at 05:00PM
FanIQ Pts? No | MLB, New York Yankees | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll
Team Breakout:
38 Fans 
29%a. Love the Yankees! (Why?)
50%b. Hate the Yankees! (Why?)
21%c. I Don't Really Care

  
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#1 | 1288 days ago

I hate them... because I'm a Red Sox fan.
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#2 | 1288 days ago

Too much money. Too many ws titles. Not to many haters!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#3 | 1288 days ago

 Best team ever sound good to anyone? Try 27 World Series rings. The passion the team and the fans have is unmatched anywhere.  I know people who have held their car together with over $1000 worth of Yankees bumper stickers instead of putting it towards fixing the car or getting a new one. You will find Yankees fans everywhere, including here.
Love the Yankees! (Why?)  
#4 | 1288 days ago
vindog (+)

Been a DIEHARD YANKEES FAN since 1972- I don't see that changing in the future!
Love the Yankees! (Why?)  
#5 | 1287 days ago
BDV4U (+)

I shouldn't care, since they are in a minor league, but money can't buy you love!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#6 | 1287 days ago
army07wife (+)

Well you may be able to take the girl out of Massachuettes...but you cant take the Red Sox from the girl...been a die hard fan almost all my life!!!!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#7 | 1286 days ago

It's not that I hate the Yankees.  I hate the system.  The Yankees are the physical manifestation of the lame economic structure baseball operates under.  A system that allows the richest team to out spend everyone by great margins.  If MLB was a marathon, and the 30 teams were all runners, the Yankees would be given a 7 mile head start over the other big spending teams.  And a 14 mile head start over more than half the field.

We can't boo the system.  So we boo the Yankees.
I Don't Really Care  
#8 | 1286 days ago

i dont dislike the Yankee's, i just cant stand the owner!!!
I Don't Really Care  
#9 | 1280 days ago
BDV4U (+)

The American League started as a minor league in the 1800s and is still referred to as "The Junior Circuit". Learn your history before popping off about something you know nothing about! LOL
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#10 | 1279 days ago
BDV4U (+)

The Phillies, Mets, Cubs and Dodgers were in the top 10 in salaries last year. You're saying Baltimore Toronto, Kansas City, Cleveland, Oakland, Seattle, et al, are better than Florida, Washington, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Houston, San Diego and so on? Playing one series against the other league doesn't always give an indication of superiority. Ever since the NL had to bail the AL's butt out by taking the Brewers, naturally the AL improved! Before that, the Senior Circuit was dominating Junior! LOL
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#11 | 1279 days ago

Just give me a game to watch, I am sure I won't change anyone's mind! 
I Don't Really Care  
#12 | 1277 days ago
BDV4U (+)

(Edited by BDV4U)
You're only talking about the 21st Century. I was including the 20th - and in the case of the Cardinals, the 19th - Century, as well as the current. If memory serves, the Cardinals are 4-3 against the Yankees in the Fall Classic. However, that wasn't my point.
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#13 | 1276 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Merely showing how poor the minor leagues are! While the Yankees only had the Red Sox to worry about these past 110 years, The Cardinals had the Dodgers, Giants and Reds - each with long histories of winning Divisions, Pennants and World Championships. If the Yankees had played in a REAL league, those stats would look more like the Phillies, Pirates & Cubs! LOL
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#14 | 1275 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Merely showing how poor the minor leagues are! While the Yankees only had the Red Sox to worry about these past 110 years, The Cardinals had the Dodgers, Giants and Reds - each with long histories of winning Divisions, Pennants and World Championships. If the Yankees had played in a REAL league, those stats would look more like the Phillies, Pirates & Cubs! LOL
I see your point.  Over the years the NL has had a bit more parity than the AL.  Meaning, more NL teams have been good over the years in the NL than AL.  Not sure what that really means but....  There it is.

As far as the current leagues...  Both are pretty equal in my mind today.  Both have good teams and both have teams that suck.  But if I had to choose right now, I'd say that in 2009 the NL was a hair superior than the AL.  That is looking at the strength of teams from top to bottom.  Yes, the AL had the best team and the NL had the worst team.  But I think the NL had more above average teams than the AL.  Which tips the scale in their favor.  But make no mistake...  The two leagues today are very VERY equal.  No more separate NL and AL offices.  Interleague play.  And especially umpires working both leagues all the time have really pushed the two leagues together.  Right now the one and only thing that separates them is the DH.
I Don't Really Care  
#15 | 1275 days ago
BDV4U (+)

One game (the All-Star Game) or one series (Interleague play) isn't the proper measuring tool for determining who is better. If you want to make Interleague really work, do like the NFL does - you play your rotation against a different division within the other league, then have series against opponents in that other league that matched up with you in the previous season instead of the regional rivalries (Mets-Yankees, Cubs-White Sox, Cardinals-Royals, Giants-A's, etc.). Then you would have the Yankees playing a series against LA, St. Louis and a second series versus Philadelphia next year, in addition to the series with the Mets (just once), Braves, Nationals & Marlins. Yes, that means 6 extra Interleague games, but that would mean 6 less games against Kansas City, Cleveland, Oakland, Chicago or any of the other lesser teams. The added competition will either help or kill a playoff-bound team!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#16 | 1275 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
One game (the All-Star Game) or one series (Interleague play) isn't the proper measuring tool for determining who is better. If you want to make Interleague really work, do like the NFL does - you play your rotation against a different division within the other league, then have series against opponents in that other league that matched up with you in the previous season instead of the regional rivalries (Mets-Yankees, Cubs-White Sox, Cardinals-Royals, Giants-A's, etc.). Then you would have the Yankees playing a series against LA, St. Louis and a second series versus Philadelphia next year, in addition to the series with the Mets (just once), Braves, Nationals & Marlins. Yes, that means 6 extra Interleague games, but that would mean 6 less games against Kansas City, Cleveland, Oakland, Chicago or any of the other lesser teams. The added competition will either help or kill a playoff-bound team!
THANK YOU!!!

You are the first person I have come across who has felt the IL schedule as it currently exists is insane!

I'm no fan if interleague play to begin with...  But since the do have it, it should be done RIGHT.

If the NL West is playing the AL East, then ALL the NL west should play ALL the AL East.  Forcing the "local rivalries" every year is just plain dumb.  It screws things up.  The Giants don't play all the other division because they HAVE to have 6 games with the A's.  Well, the way I see it, if the Giants play 6 with the A's, then ALL the NL West should play 6 with the A's.  Etc.  It has to be even to work.  Currently, it isn't.
I Don't Really Care  
#17 | 1275 days ago
BDV4U (+)

What messes up Interleague play more is that the AL West only has 4 teams and the NL Central has 6, where everyone else has 5. It makes for more headaches! Add 2 teams (Vancouver, Mexico City, San Juan, whatever), make 8 divisions (4 4-team divisions in each league), then party like it's 1876! LOL
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#18 | 1274 days ago
BDV4U (+)

The only time the All-Star Game was more than 1 game was the 1950s, when they played 2 each season. Pay attention - there will be a quiz later!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#19 | 1274 days ago
BDV4U (+)

HUH?!?

You were the one disputing that there are more than one All-Star Game a year! WTF?
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#20 | 1274 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Alas, a point to agree upon! Since the All-Star Game supposedly counts for something, now, a Best-of-3 would be nice. Have the usual all-in game, then have one where the prior-year's champion (Yankees for 2010) takes on a team from the opposite league (NL). The 3rd game would feature all of the snubs everyone complains about every year. This way no one can bitch that they didn't get a chance.
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#21 | 1274 days ago
vindog (+)

BDV4U wrote:
Alas, a point to agree upon! Since the All-Star Game supposedly counts for something, now, a Best-of-3 would be nice. Have the usual all-in game, then have one where the prior-year's champion (Yankees for 2010) takes on a team from the opposite league (NL). The 3rd game would feature all of the snubs everyone complains about every year. This way no one can bitch that they didn't get a chance.
I disagree that the All Star should have some meaning!  The All Star game was created to "reward" fans with their favorite players and NOTHING more! Why should players from the Marlins and Royals have a determining factor in whether the Yankees or Phillies have home field advantage in the World Series?????  I believe the team with the best regular season record should have that advantage considering it took them 162 games to reach that record- not one All Star game!  If people don't think that is fair- then play the game on a neutral field and flip a coin EVERY GAME and determine who is the "home team"!
Love the Yankees! (Why?)  
#22 | 1273 days ago
BDV4U (+)

vindog wrote:
I disagree that the All Star should have some meaning!  The All Star game was created to "reward" fans with their favorite players and NOTHING more! Why should players from the Marlins and Royals have a determining factor in whether the Yankees or Phillies have home field advantage in the World Series?????  I believe the team with the best regular season record should have that advantage considering it took them 162 games to reach that record- not one All Star game!  If people don't think that is fair- then play the game on a neutral field and flip a coin EVERY GAME and determine who is the "home team"!
Before "The Tie", that created the current mess, home field was determined with the NL hosting in even years & the AL being odd. The "better" team didn't figure in that, either. From 1969-93, even the LCS was given to a division, not who had the better record. With the advent of a Central Division and the Wild Card, it's harder and harder for the team in the #1 Seed to advance all the way, so records have always been irrelevent!

Maybe MLB should go with the old NHL format - rank the 8 teams, regardless of league, and let 1 play 8, 2 vs 7 and so on. The survivors get re-ranked 1-4 and go from there. It would be interesting to see 2 NL teams playing for the World Series year after year! LOL
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#23 | 1273 days ago
vindog (+)

BDV4U wrote:
Before "The Tie", that created the current mess, home field was determined with the NL hosting in even years & the AL being odd. The "better" team didn't figure in that, either. From 1969-93, even the LCS was given to a division, not who had the better record. With the advent of a Central Division and the Wild Card, it's harder and harder for the team in the #1 Seed to advance all the way, so records have always been irrelevent!

Maybe MLB should go with the old NHL format - rank the 8 teams, regardless of league, and let 1 play 8, 2 vs 7 and so on. The survivors get re-ranked 1-4 and go from there. It would be interesting to see 2 NL teams playing for the World Series year after year! LOL
Ummm, seriously, if that were the case- you would see the Yankees -vs- Red Sox, Red Sox -vs- Angels, or Yankees -vs Angels EVERY YEAR!  Without a doubt in my mind!  LOL
Love the Yankees! (Why?)  
#24 | 1272 days ago

well... they are better then the red sox thats all i can say
#25 | 1272 days ago

Its not the Yankee"s as much as the ownership . A great game ruined by over paid players
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#26 | 1271 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
What messes up Interleague play more is that the AL West only has 4 teams and the NL Central has 6, where everyone else has 5. It makes for more headaches! Add 2 teams (Vancouver, Mexico City, San Juan, whatever), make 8 divisions (4 4-team divisions in each league), then party like it's 1876! LOL
Having 16 NL teams and 14 AL teams sure doesn't make the IL schedule easy.  But it can be done with minimal differences if it just gets worked at a bit.

But the preferred solution is just to abolish IL play completely.  It really screws up the schedule and had created a decreased interest in the All Star game.  It has also taken much of the uniqueness away from the World Series as well.  I mean, come on... How cool was the World Series when you knew those two teams never faced each other before outside of perhaps spring training?  How cool was it when most of the players have never even played in that ball park before?

I really like the idea of adding two more teams for other reasons, though.
I Don't Really Care  
#27 | 1271 days ago

You know what?  Why should we even play the games at all.  Dragon says the AL is and always will be the best.  And the Yankees are, and always will be the best.  So why should anyone waste their time talking about it, debating it, or even being interested in the outcome of ball games?  Dragon knows the true score and everyone else is just too ignorant to know better.  He can also predict the outcome of various baseball scenarios.  God only knows why one as all knowing as he is is not employed by MLB in SOME capacity.
I Don't Really Care  
#28 | 1270 days ago
BDV4U (+)

We? I'm a youth baseball coach, not a Major League Baseball player! What team do you play for and what position?!?
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#29 | 1270 days ago

Um...  What the hell does this have to do with what I said about IL play?

You are seeing attacks where there are none now.

Paranoid much, are we? 
I Don't Really Care  
#30 | 1269 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Then, you wouldn't be able to kick the crap out of Kansas City, Oakland, Seattle or Chicago as often. You would have to deal with Philadelphia, Atlanta and the Mets. And just like the NBA, the West would be infinitely superior! As usual, BAD IDEA, dude!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#31 | 1269 days ago

Get rid of the AL and NL?  That ranks right up there with interleague play and the wild card.  It is such a stupid idea you know the owners had to have considered it.

Wait, they did!  About 10 years ago they tried to make the western teams the NL and the eastern teams the AL.  For once, sanity won and it didn't happen.
I Don't Really Care  
#32 | 1269 days ago

The only reason why you don't like interleague play is because the NL never get the most wins.

Not so.  When my team was on a stretch of good years, they feasted on their IL schedule.  If I was only being selfish and didn't care about anything beyond my own team, I would have embraced IL play right away.  I hated it then and I hate it now.  BTW...  Thank you for continuing to jump to conclusions.  Especially on things you know nothing about.

Again, the welfare card helps out lesser, undeserving teams.  Sure, if I were selfish I would love it.  But I am not.  MLB would be more successful if there were no welfare card and there was a cap and revenue sharing to make things more even for all teams.  That would be the scenario that offers the best competition.  And competition is what MLB is selling to its customers.

Unlike you, I actually care about MLB on the whole.  Not just what is best for my favorite team.
I Don't Really Care  
#33 | 1269 days ago

So without the Wild Card and without the Division Series. You just make it easyer for the Yankees to win World Series.

Not if there is a salary cap and revenue sharing.  Which you would know if you actually read what I wrote.

What is healthy is to keep the most popular baseball team healthy,

But the most popular team is also the most hated team.  So it's a wash.  What is healthy would be to make it so all team are on as level a playing field as can be created.  So no team has an economic advantage over the other.  Fans would love that.

Funny you say the NBA is down because the Knicks suck.  They sucked all the years Jordan was dominating the league.   Wonder why that was?

The reason they have interleague is to see the Yankees/Mets,

You know, the media is New Yor-centric.  But not THAT New York-centric.  That was not the reason for IL play.  Not by a long shot.  If it was, that would be the only IL series all year.

I think the main reason I am even taking discussing this with you is because I am curious to see where your ignorance and New York-centric attitude goes next...
I Don't Really Care  
#34 | 1269 days ago

Nothing wrong with liking IL play.  It's an opinion.   One I do not share.  But to say it works is false.  It does not work unless the goal was to screw the schedule over and create less interest in the All Star Game and World Series.  It does not bring in more interest at all.  In fact, it is creating a dis-interest.  For reasons I have already gone over.  As far as making money...  There are only a few cases where a few teams benefit.  But MLB on the whole?  The damage is greater than the good.  By far.

Funny how you change your definition of "success" when it comes to the Kicks.  By your earlier definition, only the Bulls had success because they won titles with Jordan.  No one else had success.  Your definition.  Not mine.
I Don't Really Care  
#35 | 1269 days ago

The Knick team wasn't that bad at all. They were quit good.

But they didn't win titles.  Under your own definition of success, they were a failure. 

Seems we can add "hypocrite" to your list of qualities displayed in your posts.

If you can be good but not successful, that means you have a separate standard for different sports.  Which still qualifies you for the above characteristic.
I Don't Really Care  
#36 | 1269 days ago

Believing that makes you a hypocrite.
I Don't Really Care  
#37 | 1269 days ago

It depends from what perspective a person has.  All I am asking is that you be consistent.  Is that so hard?
I Don't Really Care  
#38 | 1269 days ago

No MLB team who wins their division I would ever consider a failure.  Winning the division, while easier now than it was 16 years ago, is still the toughest part of the game.  I consider winning the division a successful season regardless of what happens in the playoffs.  Because I know the playoffs are a very random affair.  At least they have been for the past 16 years.

It is also possible to have a successful season and a failed playoff.  I have seen my team do that three times in the last 12 years.  

I have also seen my team win 103 games but have a failed season because they failed to win the division.  Ironic in that that team was the best Giants team I have ever seen.  Even better than their last (legit) pennant winning team.

Your Yankees have had successful seasons and failed playoffs as well.  Many years this past decade they entered the post season as the best team in the Majors only to fail.  Not entirely their fault.  More an element of the random nature of the new post season.  The best team does not always have the best chances to advance.  Thanks to the 'welfare' card.
I Don't Really Care  
#39 | 1269 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Going through life with such high expectations must make you a very depressed and lonely person. Making the playoffs should be a ray of hope, but you treat it as a harbinger of doom!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#40 | 1268 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Going through life with such high expectations must make you a very depressed and lonely person. Making the playoffs should be a ray of hope, but you treat it as a harbinger of doom!
Was that directed at me?  Reading the post it doesn't sound like it, but it did come right after a post written by me. 

If it is, I don't see how you figured what you concluded at all.  Harbinger of doom?  Huh?
I Don't Really Care  
#41 | 1268 days ago

Your problem is that your definition of success varies.  Is inconsistent. 
Another weird thing about your perception of baseball success is that is is totally dependent on the least controlable element of the Baseball cycle.  The random post season. 

It is senseless.  But in my discussions with you I have learned to expect it from you.
I Don't Really Care  
#42 | 1268 days ago
BDV4U (+)

ML31 wrote:
Your problem is that your definition of success varies.  Is inconsistent. 
Another weird thing about your perception of baseball success is that is is totally dependent on the least controlable element of the Baseball cycle.  The random post season. 

It is senseless.  But in my discussions with you I have learned to expect it from you.
You were just the last to comment. We all know who I was talking to!

But, WOW, so ONLY winning 27 out of 105 (25.7%) World Series must make you question your loyalty. How can you possibly support a team that is only successful one-fourth of the time? Perhaps you should throw your support to the St. Louis Swarm of the International Basketball League. They won the only 2 championships in the league's existance!
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#43 | 1268 days ago

You see things in such an absolute.  I'm sure the Phillies and their fans are very disapointed with their failure to repeat as World Series Champions.  But that does not mean it wasn't a successful season.

Only a warped mind would say the Yankees did not have success in their past 10 years.  Two World Series titles and 8 Eastern Division championships.  That kicks a$$.  The best a reasonable person should expect is to be in a position to win the World Series every year.  The Yankees do that.  Consistently.  Because they have the money to.

If the Phillies keep their payroll high like it is, I'd bet they make the post season again as well.  Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
I Don't Really Care  
#44 | 1267 days ago

(Edited by ML31)
Sounds to me like you would if they made it to 40% of all World Series'.
I Don't Really Care  
#45 | 1267 days ago

Who ever said anyone was OK with losing?  Once again, you made a grand, baseless comment.    For someone who claims to enjoy winning as much as you claim, you sure are wrong a lot.  Doesn't that make you annoyed with yourself?
I Don't Really Care  
#46 | 1267 days ago
BDV4U (+)

HUH?!? Care to show your math on how you came up with these crazy numbers?

I'm not OK with losing, either. However, it is a good teaching tool in youth sports to build sportsmanship and integrity. I don't let a non-championship year ruin my life and make me bitter, like it seems to do to you!
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#47 | 1267 days ago

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Wow....  

Here is a small sample of what you claim are "facts".

The American League is by far the greatest baseball league ever.
The Yankees are the most popular team in the WORLD.
The Yankees would still win in whatever format was presented to them.
All owners who do not throw tons of money at players don't want to win.
All owners have a bottomless pit of money to throw at players.
The Yankees do more good for New York City than every other business based there.

And I could go on and on.

You are just too funny. 

No one is this obtuse.  You HAVE to be putting us all on, right?  You MUST be.
I Don't Really Care  
#48 | 1266 days ago

The Yankees won World Series with and Without a DH the only place they never won a world series is in the NL

Wow.  So that, and $5 will get you a starbucks coffee.  Is that what makes the AL the superior league in your mind?  hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!  hahahahahahahaahah!  You are just too funny.

They would absolutely smack your petty NL baseball teams around

And you know this as a fact...  How exactly?  The Yankees are in the AL so they don't even get the chance to bash the "petty NL" around.  They play only 4 NL teams for 18 games a year.  So that isn't telling.  Do you have some kind of future tech that allows you to peer into alternate realites?  Is that where you get your "proof"?  Of is it just guesswork.  You BELIEVE the Yankees would win all the time, therefore, it is a fact?

They beat your best team this Year. If they can beat your best team and they beat them bad in Game 5 of the playoffs on there field.

The Giants certainly aren't the best team in the NL.  Yet they beat the Phillies 4 games to two in the 6 they played this year.  Does that make the Giants as good as the Yankees in your mind?  They did what the Yankees did!   Using your logic, that makes them better than the entire American League!!!  Woo hoo!  I had no idea my team was THAT great!  Thanks for supporting the Giants, Dragon!

They are the most popular American team in sports world wide fact.

Prove it.
And even if it's true (which it's not...  Nevermind the fact that they don't even play a sport that is in the top 5 played sports world wide...  But when have you let accurate fact get in the way of your rangings?) Why does that make the AL greater than the NL?

Jealous your team isn't nothing more then a NY run away thats all they.

Oh..  That's right.  You got me.  I am jealous because I wish my team was still in New York.  

I do agree with you on the luxury tax.  It is pathetic and does nothing to foster competitive balance.  I knew it wouldn't when first proposed.  Anyone who knew baseball at all knew it would do nothing.
But...  On the other hand no one can blame those who receive that handout to just pocket the money.  Why should they give it to players?  It won't help their team any.  And it would just make their team less profitable.

The fact the world know the American League is the best league this is the  World.

They do?  Why not ask someone in China if they think the AL is the best sport league in the World.  I'd wager few of them have even heard the words "American League"  let alone connect it to an American professional sport.  You see, what you are doing is called...  Exaggeration.  Look it up.

Please...  Tell me this is all fake on your part.  No one can possibly be that dim and still know how to turn on a computer.  It's all a joke.  It HAS to be.
I Don't Really Care  
#49 | 1266 days ago
BDV4U (+)

A 0.381 winning percentage would still not live up to your lofty standards! Like I said, you must be questioning your loyalty to a team in Kansas City's or Pittsburgh range. LOL
Hate the Yankees! (Why?)  
#50 | 1266 days ago
BDV4U (+)

You can't trust ESPN - they are based in New England and are so far up NYC's @$$, it's no longer funny!

As for the NBA, the Celtics may argue they are more popular! LOL
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#51 | 1266 days ago

I am not arguing they are the most popular team in this country.  (Of course, they are the most hated too, but you were never one for letting inconvienant facts get in the way).  I was questioning your assertion they are the most popular team in the WORLD.  

All you need to do is do a quick check on the most popular team in the world.  I did.  And while the results are hardly scientific, I think they are telling.  Overwhelmingly the choice is Manchester United.   Funny thing too...  When you do a search, Man U is the only team whose website comes up on top of the list, too.

But you go on believing you are right and never wrong.  It is who you are.
I Don't Really Care  
#52 | 1266 days ago

Guess what?  It's still the 5th lowest rated World Series EVER.

36% of nothing is still nothing.

Again, don't let the full facts get in the way of your conclusions.
I Don't Really Care  
#53 | 1266 days ago

Great.  So I hope this means you will stop with the "Yankees are the most popular team on earth" crap.

Hell, they probably aren't even the most popular team in THIS country.  Some NFL team likely is.
I Don't Really Care  
#54 | 1266 days ago

If you care to examine the link you put up (The same one I have already provided for you earlier, BTW) You would find that the Yankees did NOT play in the highest rated World Series ever.  The 1980 World Royals-Phillies was the highest.

Yeah, some markets didn't carry FOX.  Back in 1986 when they started.  Not getting a Fox station hasn't been an issue for 20 years now.
I Don't Really Care  
#55 | 1266 days ago

(Edited by ML31)
Aaaah...   You needed to say that to begin with.

Communication does not seem to be your strong suit.


Now then....  I think they may very well be as American Football's popularity does not extend beyond our borders at all.  But...  What evidence do you have for this?

This makes me wonder what else you have said that seemed insane but you really meant something else....
I Don't Really Care  
#56 | 1266 days ago

Everything you said is either subjective opinion or unsupported conclusions.

Examples... 

This division has it all: the pitching, the hitting, the fielding and the heroics that make baseball the great game we all love.

This can be said for any of the divisions no matter what their strength is.
 

The American League East just happens to hold arguably the greatest rivalry in all of sports.

Many fans of other famous rivalries would beg to differ.  And since you admitted it is an arguable point, it has no bearing on your conclusion and should be omitted as a factor.
 

Playoff wise, the AL East has absolutely dominated.

And here we see an example of you placing emphasis on something while ignoring the rest of the facts.  You are using the results of one, maybe two teams as a sample for the entire division.  You forget that this division holds the Rays.  A team that for 10 years has been absolute crap.  The Jays.  A team whose recent history has been mired in mediocrity.  And the O's.  A team that last year was the absolute worst team in the American League with only the Nationals being worse in all of baseball.

I could go on and on but if your past says anything it says you would simply ignore what I say.  So I think this is enough.

 

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#57 | 1266 days ago

With all due respect to Elmira, NY...  The region still doesn't seem to have a CBS station.  But I'd be surprised if cable or satellite doesn't pipe one into your market.

The Elmira market is NOT indicitive of the rest of the nation.  FOX has grown to the #2 network.  You can't do that by not having stations in most markets.
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#58 | 1266 days ago

Lets take a look at the list..

Highest rated ever... 
1980.  Phils vs. Royals.  32.8 rating 56 share.

Then...
1978.  Dodgers vs. Yankees.  32.7 rating  56 share.

Then... 
1973  Mets vs. A's.  30.7 rating.  57 share.

Then...
1981  Dodgers vs. Yankees.  30 rating  49 share

And one more..

1977  Dodgers vs. Yankees.  29.9 rating  52 share.

What can be gleaned from this?  That the Yankees are popular?  Perhaps.  but three of the top series ever ALSO include the Dodgers.  Maybe it was the DODGERS who were popular?  No way to determine which.  So you assertion that the Yankees raise the ratings cannot be considered valid as there are other factors involved.


BTW...  The next highest was 1975's Red Sox-Reds.  No Yankee involvement.

And one more thing..  Do you even know what the "Share" number indicates? 
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#59 | 1266 days ago

If that is true then I was wrong.  I just did a little internet search.  Odd that the listing could be wrong.  But since you are there and I am not, I am forced to adhere to your local knowledge.

See how easy admitting being wrong is?
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#60 | 1266 days ago

Then I stand corrected.

Doesn't change your earlier incorrect assessments, though.
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#61 | 1266 days ago

The TV ratings don't support that conclusion.
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#62 | 1266 days ago
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ML31 wrote:
The TV ratings don't support that conclusion.
Well now you have to take into consideration exactly HOW MANY "T.V. sets" were around in the 70's and 80' as compared to the population in the U.S. NOW. The current population in the U.S. is roughly 300 million people- it wasn't even near that number during the 70's and 80's making the "share" numbers more than a little misleading....   If you have a 50 share with a population of 100 million people, it's actually ALOT LESS "T.V. Sets" than a 19 share with 300 million people...... just a thought
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#63 | 1266 days ago

vindog wrote:
Well now you have to take into consideration exactly HOW MANY "T.V. sets" were around in the 70's and 80' as compared to the population in the U.S. NOW. The current population in the U.S. is roughly 300 million people- it wasn't even near that number during the 70's and 80's making the "share" numbers more than a little misleading....   If you have a 50 share with a population of 100 million people, it's actually ALOT LESS "T.V. Sets" than a 19 share with 300 million people...... just a thought
Actually, the share figure is better to compare over time because it is a percentage rather than a total figure.  The only thing going against that thought is that there are more channels available now than in the past.  But look at how low the share is lately.  That is awfully low, even for today's figures.
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#64 | 1266 days ago

vindog wrote:
Well now you have to take into consideration exactly HOW MANY "T.V. sets" were around in the 70's and 80' as compared to the population in the U.S. NOW. The current population in the U.S. is roughly 300 million people- it wasn't even near that number during the 70's and 80's making the "share" numbers more than a little misleading....   If you have a 50 share with a population of 100 million people, it's actually ALOT LESS "T.V. Sets" than a 19 share with 300 million people...... just a thought
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#65 | 1266 days ago
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PresEmart wrote:
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HATE? HUH? What are you referring to?
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#66 | 1266 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Actually, the share figure is better to compare over time because it is a percentage rather than a total figure.  The only thing going against that thought is that there are more channels available now than in the past.  But look at how low the share is lately.  That is awfully low, even for today's figures.
There are also a LOT more channels now, than there were before. So shares mean little. Years ago, people had a dozen (or less) options. I don't know about you, but I have about 500 channels.  So there are an awful lot more options. That means the shares tend to decline overall for any given broadcast of ANYTHING. Just throwing that out there.
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#67 | 1266 days ago

Pat wrote:
There are also a LOT more channels now, than there were before. So shares mean little. Years ago, people had a dozen (or less) options. I don't know about you, but I have about 500 channels.  So there are an awful lot more options. That means the shares tend to decline overall for any given broadcast of ANYTHING. Just throwing that out there.
I mentioned that already in my post.

But thanks for repeating it.
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