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Baseball Hall of Fame Re-Do: Gossage-Hoyt
The Hall of Fame debate continues in earnest after the election of Andre Dawson. But what if there was a re-do, in which every player currently in the Hall of Fame had to reevaluated with the same 75% barrier as the current system allows. What if it was just a one-shot "yes/no" question, as some think the voting should be?  Some also think there should be less players in the Hall. These series of polls will allow them to give their say on who they'd take out.

In this series of polls, every player that was elected by either the writers or the Veterans Committee will be reevaluated. Like the current process, 75% of the vote is required to stay in the Hall. This vote will not include managers, umpires, executives, or Negro League players (the latter because I honestly doubt many of us could properly judge those players due to their circumstances, I know I couldn't). Who would the Q keep in the Hall? Who would they leave out? Only one way to find out.

Note: For each player, I included their year inducted and how, BBWAA for elected by the writers, and VC for elected by the Veterans Committee.
| Closed on 02/06/10 at 06:00PM
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Team Breakout:
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 1. Goose Gossage (2008, BBWAA) (0 points)
80%a. Yes
20%b. No
 2. Hank Greenberg (1956, BBWAA) (0 points)
100%a. Yes
0%b. No
 3. Burleigh Grimes (1964, VC) (0 points)
40%a. Yes
60%b. No
 4. Lefty Grove (1949, BBWAA) (0 points)
100%a. Yes
0%b. No
 5. Tony Gwynn (2007, BBWAA) (0 points)
100%a. Yes
0%b. No
 6. Chick Hafey (1971, VC) (0 points)
20%a. Yes
80%b. No
 7. Jesse Haines (1970, VC) (0 points)
10%a. Yes
90%b. No
 8. Billy Hamilton (1961, VC) (0 points)
70%a. Yes
30%b. No
 9. Gabby Hartnett (1955, BBWAA) (0 points)
90%a. Yes
10%b. No
 10. Harry Heilmann (1952, BBWAA) (0 points)
60%a. Yes
40%b. No
 11. Rickey Henderson (2009, BBWAA) (0 points)
100%a. Yes
0%b. No
 12. Billy Herman (1975, VC) (0 points)
60%a. Yes
40%b. No
 13. Harry Hooper (1971, VC) (0 points)
10%a. Yes
90%b. No
 14. Rogers Hornsby (1942, BBWAA) (0 points)
100%a. Yes
0%b. No
 15. Waite Hoyt (1969, VC) (0 points)
30%a. Yes
70%b. No

  
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#1 | 1693 days ago

Maybe Waite Hoyt as a Frick award winner....  But certainly not as a player.
1. No  2. Yes  3. No  4. Yes  5. Yes  6. No  7. No  8. Yes  9. Yes  10. Yes  11. Yes  12. No  13. Yes  14. Yes  15. No  
#2 | 1692 days ago
BDV4U (+)

I'll buy that, ML! But you got to vote Hornsby in as both a player and a manager.
1. Yes  2. Yes  3. Yes  4. Yes  5. Yes  6. Yes  7. Yes  8. Yes  9. Yes  10. No  11. Yes  12. Yes  13. No  14. Yes  15. Yes  
#3 | 1684 days ago

The obvious picks in this group (to me): Greenberg, Grove, Gwynn, Hartnett, Henderson, Hornsby

Gossage (yes): By my count, 13 good to fantastic years as a relief ace, and this before the time of one inning closers.

Grimes (no): Had a couple of nice years, but lots of mediocre or worse ones, and only a 107 career ERA+. Fitting name though for one of the last spitballers.

Hafey (no): Better player than I thought, but never played even 145 games in a season. Career was just too short.

Haines (no): Similar to Grimes. Some good years, some average to bad ones. 108 career ERA+

Hamilton (yes): Career .344 hitter, career .455 OBP, 3rd all-time in stolen bases, and considered the best lead-off man of the 1890s.

Heilmann (yes): Four time batting champ with a career average of .342 and 148 OPS+

Herman (yes): Career .304 hitter and .367 OBP and considered the top second baseman of the 30s.

Hooper (no): Solid player for a 15+ years, but not much of a peak to go with it.

Hoyt (no): Once again, some good years, but not a lot, and only a 111 ERA+
1. Yes  2. Yes  3. No  4. Yes  5. Yes  6. No  7. No  8. Yes  9. Yes  10. Yes  11. Yes  12. Yes  13. No  14. Yes  15. No  
#4 | 1684 days ago

Eric_ wrote:
The obvious picks in this group (to me): Greenberg, Grove, Gwynn, Hartnett, Henderson, Hornsby

Gossage (yes): By my count, 13 good to fantastic years as a relief ace, and this before the time of one inning closers.

Grimes (no): Had a couple of nice years, but lots of mediocre or worse ones, and only a 107 career ERA+. Fitting name though for one of the last spitballers.

Hafey (no): Better player than I thought, but never played even 145 games in a season. Career was just too short.

Haines (no): Similar to Grimes. Some good years, some average to bad ones. 108 career ERA+

Hamilton (yes): Career .344 hitter, career .455 OBP, 3rd all-time in stolen bases, and considered the best lead-off man of the 1890s.

Heilmann (yes): Four time batting champ with a career average of .342 and 148 OPS+

Herman (yes): Career .304 hitter and .367 OBP and considered the top second baseman of the 30s.

Hooper (no): Solid player for a 15+ years, but not much of a peak to go with it.

Hoyt (no): Once again, some good years, but not a lot, and only a 111 ERA+
Grimes was not just ONE of the last spitballers...  But he was THE last of the legal spitballers.
1. No  2. Yes  3. No  4. Yes  5. Yes  6. No  7. No  8. Yes  9. Yes  10. Yes  11. Yes  12. No  13. Yes  14. Yes  15. No  

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