Anyone who doesn't answer "Willie Mays" (um, note the second "i" there) must be logging on from an insane asylum.

Steroids or not, Barry Bonds is great. Top ten all-time. But Willie Mays is quite simply the best all-around player ever. 

 Bonds has better career stats, is a 7 time MVP, had better plate discipline, and 104 more homeruns. Mays had a better arm and overall they are close, but your statement is ridiculously retarded.

Its nowhere near one-sided. Your personal dislike for Bonds or overall ignorace of baseball history really shows in what you just said. Either that or you are just trolling me because I picked Bonds instead of Mays since I had the pleasure of watching him dominate MLB like noone else in baseball history ever has.

Now you are no doubt gonna start the steroid argument. Before you do that do me a favor and look at Bonds career stats before his alleged performance enhancing drug use.

Yes, Bonds dominated offensively like no one else ever did, with the only one close being Ruth. But the question asked who was the greatest Giant? I just can't imagine any long-time fan of the franchise arguing against Mays. He is the Giants. He was great in New York, and he was great in San Francisco. He led them to finally win a World Series in a decade when the Yankees seemed to win every year and the one they didn't, the hated Dodgers won. He of course made "The Catch" in that Series. Although Bonds was a Gold Glover earlier in his career, I don't recall any of his catches or plays being seen ad infinitem in highlight reels. If anything, he's best known for being unable to throw out Sid Bream at the plate. There are intangibles as well. Mays played alongside the likes of Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle and Hank Aaron. Bonds really had no competition at all as the elite player in the game; Griffey Jr. maybe, and A-Rod and Pujols in the twilight of his career. Mays always displayed a positive attitude while playing in an era still beset by vehement racism. Bonds was consistently surly and complained of being a victim of racism while he made dozens of millions of dollars.

 Anyone who doesn't answer "Willie Mays" (um, note the second "i" there) must be logging on from an insane asylum.

Steroids or not, Barry Bonds is great. Top ten all-time. But Willie Mays is quite simply the best all-around player ever. 

 What do you expect from a Rockies fan... The franchise was in diapers while Bonds was kicking the crap out of McGwires record. They dont know $hit.

Of course there's the "Say Hey Kid", but how in the world you could leave John McGraw off this list?!  Best Giant of all time?  He has to be given consideration as one of the greatest managers who's ever played/managed the game!

 What do you expect from a Rockies fan... The franchise was in diapers while Bonds was kicking the crap out of McGwires record. They dont know $hit.

 See, part of the whole issue is people throw the popularity card into the equation. If I was throwing a party and I could only invite one of them, sure the invite would go to the say hey kid. 

You just said yourself that Bonds dominated like noone else ever has, with the exception of Babe Ruth. So how could Willie Mays be far superior to him?

The truth is he isn't, and the actual reality is that Bonds was a superior player to Mays. The numbers don't lie. The whole steroids era totally destroyed Bonds reputation and place among baseball history. Its not just you, so don't worry about it. Bonds does not and never will get the respect that he deserves. This is just an unfortunate fact. Its really pretty sad because I watched the guy for 15 years and the guy was just incredible. A pitchers and managers absolute worst nightmare.

I watched Willie Mays He did it all. I put him as the second greatest player ever.

 Bonds has better career stats, is a 7 time MVP, had better plate discipline, and 104 more homeruns. Mays had a better arm and overall they are close, but your statement is ridiculously retarded.

Its nowhere near one-sided. Your personal dislike for Bonds or overall ignorace of baseball history really shows in what you just said. Either that or you are just trolling me because I picked Bonds instead of Mays since I had the pleasure of watching him dominate MLB like noone else in baseball history ever has.

Now you are no doubt gonna start the steroid argument. Before you do that do me a favor and look at Bonds career stats before his alleged performance enhancing drug use.

 See, part of the whole issue is people throw the popularity card into the equation. If I was throwing a party and I could only invite one of them, sure the invite would go to the say hey kid. 

You just said yourself that Bonds dominated like noone else ever has, with the exception of Babe Ruth. So how could Willie Mays be far superior to him?

The truth is he isn't, and the actual reality is that Bonds was a superior player to Mays. The numbers don't lie. The whole steroids era totally destroyed Bonds reputation and place among baseball history. Its not just you, so don't worry about it. Bonds does not and never will get the respect that he deserves. This is just an unfortunate fact. Its really pretty sad because I watched the guy for 15 years and the guy was just incredible. A pitchers and managers absolute worst nightmare.

There's Mays and then there's everyone else.

There aren't many players where that comment would be misplaced about.  But Bonds is NOT one of them.  Mays could do it all, but so could Bonds.

So If Barry Bonds And Steroids Were In The Same Sentence, Would You Still Be Defending Him, Just Asking....

By the way, Willie Mays, Mel Ott. Barry , John McGraw, and Christy Mathewson are the only people who can be under serious consideration in this question.

Bonds couldn't play centerfield like Willie, but neither could anyone else

Mays, the best ever in a Giants uniform, as far as Bonds...
 

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What are you smoking? Bonds got to play in a small ballpark in Pittsburgh (3 Rivers Park) and when he threatened to leave for free agency after his first contract was up with the Giants (because he couldn't hit many balls out of Candlestick), the Giants went and gave him a shorter right field porch to swing at  with Pac Bell Park than the Astros have in left field with Minute Maid Park.

Mays played in an era when all the ballparks were  huge to left-center, center, and right-center, and Mays faced far better pitching in his time than Bonds has ever faced in his. Pitching is so watered down at the MLB level right now, at 46, I could probably get a AAA contract with a tryout and I haven't thrown 90 ever or a baseball since 1988.

Bonds was a so-so outfielder at best, and one of the weakest throwing arms for a left-fielder in history. Get off the steroid juice wagon and wake up to the fact that Bonds was more of a glorified DH in left field for the Giants when Mays, at 42, was still better than 80% of the CF's in the game when he retired in 1973

Uh, you forgetting a San Franciscan native that played for the New York Yankees, wore #5, and was considered the greatest living ballplayer of all time? Yes, Talking about DiMaggio.

Oh, and there is a song about baseball that came out during the 1981 players strike that says it all about the 3 great NY centerfielders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKA9Zi5-_Y

Yes, Bonds dominated offensively like no one else ever did, with the only one close being Ruth. But the question asked who was the greatest Giant? I just can't imagine any long-time fan of the franchise arguing against Mays. He is the Giants. He was great in New York, and he was great in San Francisco. He led them to finally win a World Series in a decade when the Yankees seemed to win every year and the one they didn't, the hated Dodgers won. He of course made "The Catch" in that Series. Although Bonds was a Gold Glover earlier in his career, I don't recall any of his catches or plays being seen ad infinitem in highlight reels. If anything, he's best known for being unable to throw out Sid Bream at the plate. There are intangibles as well. Mays played alongside the likes of Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle and Hank Aaron. Bonds really had no competition at all as the elite player in the game; Griffey Jr. maybe, and A-Rod and Pujols in the twilight of his career. Mays always displayed a positive attitude while playing in an era still beset by vehement racism. Bonds was consistently surly and complained of being a victim of racism while he made dozens of millions of dollars.