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Has Lou Pinella become ineffective?
 So fellow die hards let's face it, this has been a bad season with no relief in sight. So my question is do you believe Lou Pinella  has become ineffective as the manager of this team? Or do you think it is simply the players not playing up to their ability? Or possibly a combination of the two? What ever the reason I wish the Ricketts would fiqure it out and fix the problem. I also would like to see the players start looking like a team. 
| Closed on 07/24/10 at 05:00PM
FanIQ Pts? No | MLB, Chicago Cubs | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll
Teams:  Cubs
Team Breakout:
20 Fans 
5%a. I think Pinella is to blame
50%b. I think the players are to blame
35%c. Hurry up next year
10%d. Shaconage (my other)

 &nbp;
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#5 | 1490 days ago

I really don't put all the blame on Pinella, I once knew a guy who bought a truckload of chicken manure, and he never could get that chicken salad he was trying to make taste right... I love the fact that sports have 'next seasons'.
Hurry up next year  
  
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#1 | 1490 days ago

A coach can do so much. It's the players that have to step it up. Thay are getting paid to perform and they are not doing that.
I think the players are to blame  
#2 | 1490 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Blame the Aquafina!

You're out of goats, black cats and Bartmans, so go after the bottled water. LOL
I think the players are to blame  
#3 | 1490 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

BDV4U wrote:
Blame the Aquafina!

You're out of goats, black cats and Bartmans, so go after the bottled water. LOL
 So who have you picked on since I was gone for a month? I know you missed me don't try to deny it. 
#4 | 1490 days ago
BDV4U (+)

I've been busy with youth baseball, so I've had to store up all this energy for your return!
I think the players are to blame  
#5 | 1490 days ago

I really don't put all the blame on Pinella, I once knew a guy who bought a truckload of chicken manure, and he never could get that chicken salad he was trying to make taste right... I love the fact that sports have 'next seasons'.
Hurry up next year  
#6 | 1490 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

Beaneaters wrote:
I really don't put all the blame on Pinella, I once knew a guy who bought a truckload of chicken manure, and he never could get that chicken salad he was trying to make taste right... I love the fact that sports have 'next seasons'.
well thank God for that. 
#7 | 1490 days ago

Boy Glenda I wish I knew. If I really thought replacing Lou would turn this team around I'd say give him the axe, but I am not sure that would work. example Ted Lilly and the way he has pitched this year no way he should be 2-6. Wells starts out 3-0 and has lost 6 in a row. Seems like we get pitching and no runs support or runs and the pitching go to pot. Lou's got to be as confused as the rest of us as why we can't get it together.
Hurry up next year  
#8 | 1490 days ago

I believe it has to be talent.  Lou has produced winners in other places.  Chicago is not known for going out and paying the high salaries to get the "stars".  The talent is just not there, with the exception of momentary brilliance by one at a time.
#9 | 1489 days ago

food_man56 wrote:
I believe it has to be talent.  Lou has produced winners in other places.  Chicago is not known for going out and paying the high salaries to get the "stars".  The talent is just not there, with the exception of momentary brilliance by one at a time.
 The cubs DID pay very high salaries for what they thought were the "stars" (See Soriano and Zambrano). Not to mention the money they've thrown at other players over the past few years. 
If the Cubs need to fire anybody, it's Hendry.
Hurry up next year  
#10 | 1489 days ago

The Cubs are like the Tampa Bay Rays when Lou was managing them....mediocre talent and Lou can only win with elite players. (circa N.Y. Yankees)  Check out his record with what talent was around him.
I think Pinella is to blame  
#11 | 1489 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

coyotedances wrote:
Boy Glenda I wish I knew. If I really thought replacing Lou would turn this team around I'd say give him the axe, but I am not sure that would work. example Ted Lilly and the way he has pitched this year no way he should be 2-6. Wells starts out 3-0 and has lost 6 in a row. Seems like we get pitching and no runs support or runs and the pitching go to pot. Lou's got to be as confused as the rest of us as why we can't get it together.
 You know watching them this year, it's like they are their own enemy. I have never seen so many good players just playing ok. And I don't know if it's because they just don't care (God I don't want to believe that) or if it's just because they just can't seem to find a niche. Whatever it is I really wish they would say ok enough is enough it is only June and our fans are already saying just wait til next year. 
#12 | 1489 days ago

Let's just quite trying to figure out what has gone wrong so far, It just gives us Cubs fans a headache. We have been in this position far to often. Actually for 100+ YEARS! The Cubs are overdue for a World Series participation and eventual championship. So don't give up yet. We have a whole second part of the season left. The Cubs talent will come together at the oportune middle to end of year time and the Cards will fall like 52 pick-up.
Now that I've read what I just typed....how "pathetic". That is the word that describes our Cubs management and team players so far this year. Let's expect a different word to be used at the end of the season.
Shaconage (my other)  
#13 | 1489 days ago

He's managing the Cubs...how effective can he possibly be..
Hurry up next year  
#14 | 1489 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

Michael_G wrote:
He's managing the Cubs...how effective can he possibly be..
 shut it clown 
#15 | 1489 days ago

I think the whole organization is to blame. When the Ricketts bought the team they really didn't change much except for trying to create new revenue with sign advertisements through out the ballpark.  One way is to start to clean house throughout the organization, just the Blackhawks did. I t is just like Boston did as well, new owners and cleaning house with a new attitude. The Cubs need to change the thinking of being a winner instead of being the lovable losers, that attitude does not work.  So until they get rid of some of the cast of characters they will continue to play bad baseball. The only thing Pinella can do is try and make a better atmosphere is the clubhouse and have some fun, maybe they can win some games.
Hurry up next year  
#16 | 1489 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

barbiebabycd wrote:
The Cubs are like the Tampa Bay Rays when Lou was managing them....mediocre talent and Lou can only win with elite players. (circa N.Y. Yankees)  Check out his record with what talent was around him.
 But the problem is the Cubs really aren't mediocre. If they were it would be understandable the problem is these guys should be unbeatable and yet well their getting their asses kicked this year. And welcome it's good to see you are learning your way around. 

And we Cubs fans really are the coolest on the Q. 
#17 | 1489 days ago

cubsgirl2 wrote:
 But the problem is the Cubs really aren't mediocre. If they were it would be understandable the problem is these guys should be unbeatable and yet well their getting their asses kicked this year. And welcome it's good to see you are learning your way around. 

And we Cubs fans really are the coolest on the Q. 
they sure looked mediocre getting blanked 6-0 by the Sox today
Hurry up next year  
#18 | 1488 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

coyotedances wrote:
they sure looked mediocre getting blanked 6-0 by the Sox today
 yeah well I guess the southsiders are happy. I hate the southsiders being happy. 
#19 | 1488 days ago
BDV4U (+)

cubsgirl2 wrote:
 yeah well I guess the southsiders are happy. I hate the southsiders being happy. 
So the latest Zambrano meltdown had NOTHING to do with it? LOL
I think the players are to blame  
#20 | 1488 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

BDV4U wrote:
So the latest Zambrano meltdown had NOTHING to do with it? LOL
 Hey!!! How manY times do I have to tell you, that  is PASSION FOR THE GAME!!!!!!!!!   





 (note to self,ricks voo doo doll needs attention)
#21 | 1488 days ago
BDV4U (+)

cubsgirl2 wrote:
 Hey!!! How manY times do I have to tell you, that  is PASSION FOR THE GAME!!!!!!!!!   





 (note to self,ricks voo doo doll needs attention)
From the video replays, it looked more like a passion to take Derek Lee's head off! LOL
I think the players are to blame  
#22 | 1485 days ago

 LOL, I'm blaming Shaconage just because I'm just as confused as everyone else why they haven't  been performing to expectations and I don't know who to point the finger at. If everyone would have known in April that the Cubs would get the most respected hitting coach in MLB ( Rudy Jaramillo), and trade Bradley to Seattle for a pitcher ( Carlos Silva) that starts the season 8-0, everyone would think they would be on thier way to win the division at the least.
 They've been lifeless this year and one thing I can say that was positive about the Zambrano incident is that at least he shown emotion which the Cubs been lacking all season and they have not been aggressive at all. They need more aggressive play, like last night in the 7th against Pitt, score tied 1-1 runners on the corners and less than 2 outs, I was praying for a squeeze play. When your not scoring runs you have to try something new. The intensity just isn't there, and being owned by the Pirates all season is just pathetic to say the least.
Shaconage (my other)  
#23 | 1484 days ago

Agree with your perspective, and I would gladly take the blame if it would point the Cubs in the right direction. In preseason and on paper , everything seemed to be pointing to playoffs, I'm starting to become a believer in Glenda's belief of jinxes.

Hey, are the Bulls going to get LeBron James?
Shaconage (my other)  
#24 | 1483 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Shaconage wrote:
Agree with your perspective, and I would gladly take the blame if it would point the Cubs in the right direction. In preseason and on paper , everything seemed to be pointing to playoffs, I'm starting to become a believer in Glenda's belief of jinxes.

Hey, are the Bulls going to get LeBron James?
I told both of you before the season ever started. Anyone ever listen to me? NO!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
I think the players are to blame  
#25 | 1483 days ago

LOL..I haven't listened to anyone since 77' , so why start now?  I just can't see myself rooting for another team other than the Cubs..I bleed cubbie blue. Unfortunately I may need a blood donation after this season
Shaconage (my other)  
#26 | 1461 days ago

What do you expect?  It's summer time, the players are on vacation --- cut them some slack
Hurry up next year  

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