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Who do you think is better Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Satchel Paige, Babe Ruth, or Shoeless Joe Ja (Edited 04/12/12 04:42PM by Dream_Machine)
 
Featured by: cubsgirl2 at 7/15/10 12:07PM
| Closed on 04/13/12 at 11:45PM
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Team Breakout:
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8%a. Alex Rodrigues
10%b. Derek Jeter
10%c. Satchel Paige
62%d. Babe Ruth
10%e. Shoeless Joe Jackson

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#3 | 1562 days ago

This is a weird group. Jeter is a great player, but he would be the first to tell you he's not better than Babe Ruth.

A-Rod admitted to using steroids, so he's out.

Satchel Paige didn't play in the big leagues until he was well into his 40's, so he's out.

Joe Jackson was a great hitter, but Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Napoleon Lajoie, and Rogers Hornsby were better hitters, plus Jackson was suspended for life, so his numbers weren't as good as they could be.

Babe Ruth is the most iconic figure in baseball history. He was bigger than life itself back then, and brought baseball from the dead ball era, into the modern times.

Because of his greatness as a pitcher, Ruth is the best player in baseball history.
Babe Ruth  
  
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#1 | 1564 days ago

Shoeless Joe may be the single best hitter in history.
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#2 | 1563 days ago

Nno question!!  Babe Ruth was the best!
Babe Ruth  
#3 | 1562 days ago

This is a weird group. Jeter is a great player, but he would be the first to tell you he's not better than Babe Ruth.

A-Rod admitted to using steroids, so he's out.

Satchel Paige didn't play in the big leagues until he was well into his 40's, so he's out.

Joe Jackson was a great hitter, but Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Napoleon Lajoie, and Rogers Hornsby were better hitters, plus Jackson was suspended for life, so his numbers weren't as good as they could be.

Babe Ruth is the most iconic figure in baseball history. He was bigger than life itself back then, and brought baseball from the dead ball era, into the modern times.

Because of his greatness as a pitcher, Ruth is the best player in baseball history.
Babe Ruth  
#4 | 1562 days ago
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 I would have to go with shoeless Joe.  What a hitter and of course I am factoring in the what if I guess. 

Oh and yes I agree A-Rod shouldn't even be mentioned in with these guys. No player should if they have taken steroids. 
Like I have said before, Maris, Ruth, and the other ones did it hang over and a cigarette hanging out of their mouths. Now those are athletes. 
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#5 | 1562 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

gobigblue1960 wrote:
This is a weird group. Jeter is a great player, but he would be the first to tell you he's not better than Babe Ruth.

A-Rod admitted to using steroids, so he's out.

Satchel Paige didn't play in the big leagues until he was well into his 40's, so he's out.

Joe Jackson was a great hitter, but Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Napoleon Lajoie, and Rogers Hornsby were better hitters, plus Jackson was suspended for life, so his numbers weren't as good as they could be.

Babe Ruth is the most iconic figure in baseball history. He was bigger than life itself back then, and brought baseball from the dead ball era, into the modern times.

Because of his greatness as a pitcher, Ruth is the best player in baseball history.
 Yes but look what he did in his forties. 
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#6 | 1562 days ago

It is always so hard to compare modern day players with players of the past.  I agree A-Rod is out because of steroids.
Babe Ruth  
#7 | 1562 days ago

Career statistics
(through July 6, 2010)
Batting average     .316
Hits     2,843
Runs     1,629
Home runs     232
Runs batted in     1,107
On-base plus slugging     .843
Derek Jeter  
#8 | 1561 days ago

Hahaha... Derek Jeter doesn't deserve a spot on this list. He's not even among the 100 best players of all time.
Babe Ruth  
#9 | 1558 days ago

I don't know why this is even a question..  Shoeless Joe is the only player listed that may be in the conversation with Ruth..  But even he doesn't come close..

Jeter?  Really?   .........Really?

Babe Ruth  
#10 | 1553 days ago

It's Ruth -- no contest
Babe Ruth  
#11 | 1551 days ago
BDV4U (+)

Jackson was robbed of his chance to prove his dominance in this category.
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#12 | 1496 days ago

JKB37 wrote:

I don't know why this is even a question..  Shoeless Joe is the only player listed that may be in the conversation with Ruth..  But even he doesn't come close..

Jeter?  Really?   .........Really?

r u kiding me jeter is one of the best players of all time where have u been
Babe Ruth  
#13 | 1495 days ago

Pat wrote:
Hahaha... Derek Jeter doesn't deserve a spot on this list. He's not even among the 100 best players of all time.
really ! typical red sox troll , Youre little franchise couldn't dream of bringing some one out of the farm system they run like Jeter lol
Babe Ruth  
#14 | 1495 days ago
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Yanksontop wrote:
really ! typical red sox troll , Youre little franchise couldn't dream of bringing some one out of the farm system they run like Jeter lol
Then what farm system did Ted Williams, Carl Yazstremski, Jim Rice, Dom DiMaggio, Babe Ruth, Wade Boggs, Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Johnny Pesky, Roger Clemens and "Smokey Joe" Wood come from? LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#15 | 1495 days ago

the babe is the best ,and if Roberto would 've not died in a plane crash 2nd to the babe Roberto clemente ,my opinion and a good one if you ask any one that knows anything about baseball
Babe Ruth  
#16 | 1495 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Then what farm system did Ted Williams, Carl Yazstremski, Jim Rice, Dom DiMaggio, Babe Ruth, Wade Boggs, Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Johnny Pesky, Roger Clemens and "Smokey Joe" Wood come from? LOL
yea tell me how many rings they won with your team , we made them champions , something your little team couldn't do for them ,Epic ! and yea you do have some prehistoric good breeds but what happened to that in 21 century, not 1 look what we have done Jeter  Mariano rivera Andy pettite, Gorge Posada, Robinson Cano, so stop living in the past like 1918 you know !! yea let me hear you say 2004 and 2007 , well let me tell you if it wasnt for the wild card you would've never won those Champion ships lol pathetic
Babe Ruth  
#17 | 1495 days ago

Yanksontop wrote:
yea tell me how many rings they won with your team , we made them champions , something your little team couldn't do for them ,Epic ! and yea you do have some prehistoric good breeds but what happened to that in 21 century, not 1 look what we have done Jeter  Mariano rivera Andy pettite, Gorge Posada, Robinson Cano, so stop living in the past like 1918 you know !! yea let me hear you say 2004 and 2007 , well let me tell you if it wasnt for the wild card you would've never won those Champion ships lol pathetic
oh and Bernnie Williams
Babe Ruth  
#18 | 1495 days ago

dude I know that, but what I meant was lately, and I feel like a moron your not a red sox troll your a cardinal the other classy franchise in Baseball the fans an all, I  respect the cardinals but not no redsox troll
Babe Ruth  
#19 | 1495 days ago
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Yanksontop wrote:
dude I know that, but what I meant was lately, and I feel like a moron your not a red sox troll your a cardinal the other classy franchise in Baseball the fans an all, I  respect the cardinals but not no redsox troll
Did you enjoy arguing with yourself? LOL

Ironic you have Ruth as your choice, then trash the team he started with! Not sure what they call that in New England or New York, but in these parts, it's called hypocrite.

I think I'll still stick with Musial (past) and Pujols (present) over Jeter
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#20 | 1494 days ago

Yanksontop wrote:
yea tell me how many rings they won with your team , we made them champions , something your little team couldn't do for them ,Epic ! and yea you do have some prehistoric good breeds but what happened to that in 21 century, not 1 look what we have done Jeter  Mariano rivera Andy pettite, Gorge Posada, Robinson Cano, so stop living in the past like 1918 you know !! yea let me hear you say 2004 and 2007 , well let me tell you if it wasnt for the wild card you would've never won those Champion ships lol pathetic
Dustin Pedroia, Kevin Youkilis, Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, Jacoby Ellsbury, Jonathan Papelbon.

You were saying?
Babe Ruth  
#21 | 1479 days ago

1. Mr. Lee is not on the Yankees. But it's still amusing to see pretentious douchebags assume that it's already a done deal.
2. Utley is better than Cano, and Pedroia is too, when he's healthy. Let me know when Cano wins an MVP. I could also make the case for Ian Kinsler.
3. My point is that the Red Sox have some great home grown players. All of those guys are All Star caliber players, and they came up through the Red Sox system.

Any more ridiculous ignorance that you'd like to spew?
Babe Ruth  
#22 | 1479 days ago

gobigblue1960 wrote:
This is a weird group. Jeter is a great player, but he would be the first to tell you he's not better than Babe Ruth.

A-Rod admitted to using steroids, so he's out.

Satchel Paige didn't play in the big leagues until he was well into his 40's, so he's out.

Joe Jackson was a great hitter, but Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Napoleon Lajoie, and Rogers Hornsby were better hitters, plus Jackson was suspended for life, so his numbers weren't as good as they could be.

Babe Ruth is the most iconic figure in baseball history. He was bigger than life itself back then, and brought baseball from the dead ball era, into the modern times.

Because of his greatness as a pitcher, Ruth is the best player in baseball history.
how could there be any question as to who was the greatest baseball player of all time.

RUTH   PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Babe Ruth  
#23 | 1476 days ago

Wait... so you don't think Felix Hernandez deserves the Cy Young because of his win-loss record? Wow, you are the embodiment of everything that is wrong with Yankees fans today. Felix Hernandez pitched better than CC. Fact. His teammates just didn't perform as well on offense, which is why his win totals are less impressive.
Babe Ruth  
#24 | 1475 days ago
BDV4U (+)

It wasn't Andre Dawson's fault the Cubs sucked the year he dominated the NL and won the MVP. Because Hernandez plays in an inferior league, where he's not allowed to drive in the very runs his teammates aren't getting for him, you want to penalize him for the other 24 lazy @$$3$ on the roster? If you can't win 20+, when your team scores a bazillion runs a game, you don't belong in baseball (piece-of-crap-AL, or not)!
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#25 | 1475 days ago

No, give it to the pitcher who pitched the best. That's the definition of the award, and that's what Felix Hernandez has done. He has no control whatsoever over what his offense does. The Mariners had the worst offense of the past 40 years. You can't hold that against Hernandez, it's not his fault at all. Look at the pitching numbers, completely independent of the rest of the team's performance, and you'll realize Hernandez has been way better. It's not even close.
Babe Ruth  
#26 | 1474 days ago
BDV4U (+)

I have to agree on MVP, but like Pat said, Cy Young and all of the other awards are given to the best player by definition of that category (rookie, pitcher, etc.). Having said that, define "valuable". To win championships, it takes all 25 men working in unison to achieve a common goal. You would spark that A-Roid or Cano would deserve the AL MVP, but the Yankees finished 2nd in their own division. By your definition, no one on that team would be eligible! In the "real world" that the rest of us live in, some of us can actually make the argument that they should be considered, along with Texiera, because the Yankees wouldn't even be in the playoffs without their production.

By your definition, Sabathia would be eliminated because they didn't win. So, again, you screwed yourself! LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#27 | 1473 days ago

But the best manager isn't always the one whose team wins the World Series. I know you don't get it, because you think that any team can just buy a World Series like your Yankees do, but it doesn't quite work like that.
Babe Ruth  
#28 | 1473 days ago

Pujols is overrated? Man, you've really jumped the shark now. Your whole "playing dumb" act is getting really old. Take it elsewhere.
Babe Ruth  
#29 | 1473 days ago
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Yes, he's SO overrated. His WORST stats are 143 GP, 634 PA, 524 AB, 99 R, 177 H, 33 2B, 32 HR, 1 SB, 6 CS, 69 BB, 93 K, .312 BA, .394 OBP, .561 SLG, 321 TB, 27 GDP, 4 HBP and 6 IBB. That's to go with his Gold Glove and .994 Fielding Pct. Maybe he'll bounce back and earn his $16M he'll get for 2011.

Dragon, you're such a douche!
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#30 | 1472 days ago
BDV4U (+)

It's a TEAM sport! Unless you can toe the rubber, throw the pitch, put on the gear, catch the ball, throw it back to yourself, unless the other guy hits the ball, then you field the comebacker and beat the guy to the bag, it's going to take 24 teammates to win 90-100 games in 162 regular season games, then 11 post-season games to win it all!

Jeter's had a mediocre career, at best, but has had the luck of being on a very good team. Yes, he's closing in on 3000 hits, but what else has he done? Defensively, sure he's above average, but put him on the Cubs or Pirates, would he have the status he enjoys today? Doubtful.

Your arguments hold as much water as the Titanic.
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#31 | 1471 days ago

It's still a team sport. Do you not understand that? One player can't win ANYTHING by himself. Derek Jeter has never, in his entire career, won a division title, a world series championship, or even a single game by himself. That is a fact.

So what the hell are you trying to say?

Actually, don't bother. I don't even care what you're trying to say. It's logically flawed, it's inherently ignorant, and your personal biases are cutting off blood flow to your brain, preventing intelligent thought. So don't bother explaining yourself. It won't matter anyway.
Babe Ruth  
#32 | 1469 days ago
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Pat wrote:
It's still a team sport. Do you not understand that? One player can't win ANYTHING by himself. Derek Jeter has never, in his entire career, won a division title, a world series championship, or even a single game by himself. That is a fact.

So what the hell are you trying to say?

Actually, don't bother. I don't even care what you're trying to say. It's logically flawed, it's inherently ignorant, and your personal biases are cutting off blood flow to your brain, preventing intelligent thought. So don't bother explaining yourself. It won't matter anyway.
Saddest part is, he's from the other side of the state, yet a blithering idiot! Imagine if he was actually FROM NYC. LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#33 | 1456 days ago

Mr. Lee when did
Lee play for the yanks??? Thats right never, but it sure is not to dream.
Babe Ruth  
#34 | 1456 days ago

MVP is the player who is most valuable to his team, Saying theyt would not be were they ended without that player. Cano please not close. Cy young award is the best pitcher in the league. Look at his ERA runs against starts pitch amount innings pitch. You can have a guy win 20 games and he only pichtes 5 innings a game. The one who will 16 and has 8 complete games and goes to the 7th in the oher games. I would have to say the guy with 16 wins is the better pitchers by far.
Babe Ruth  
#35 | 1456 days ago

Best player ever must be ruth. Only guy who was a stand out pitcher and everyday play. With him in the lineup or on the mound change the way the other team played the game. No other player has done that.
Babe Ruth  
#36 | 1456 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
Mr. Lee when did
Lee play for the yanks??? Thats right never, but it sure is not to dream.
There is no almost for sure. If so the Yankess would have gotten Halladay last year.
Babe Ruth  
#37 | 1455 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
There is no almost for sure. If so the Yankess would have gotten Halladay last year.
LOL now you are funny. Like you said they did not get him cause he wazs to much then you say the Yankees will blow everyone out of the water. If a team comes up with an amount that is comparable to the Yankees and is a playoff team you can see Lee in someone esle's uniform. The Mets are not cheap the are wasteful. Trying their money up in players that are worth the money. Just like the Yankees did back in the '80s and early '90s. Give up the farm if they have so much money to buy these players they would not be giving up a thing. Look at the Rodgers' and A-rod deal. You do make me laugh!!!
Babe Ruth  
#38 | 1447 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Then what farm system did Ted Williams, Carl Yazstremski, Jim Rice, Dom DiMaggio, Babe Ruth, Wade Boggs, Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Johnny Pesky, Roger Clemens and "Smokey Joe" Wood come from? LOL
Not to mention, the guy who scouted and drafted Jeter is now the GM of YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS!
Babe Ruth  
#39 | 1447 days ago

That is a weird list...   One that Jeter, as good as he is, hasn't earned placement on.

No question the Babe was the best on that list.  His offense, his pitching...  Good grief!  What kind of question is this?
Babe Ruth  
#40 | 1446 days ago
BDV4U (+)

ML31 wrote:
Not to mention, the guy who scouted and drafted Jeter is now the GM of YOUR 2010 WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS!
MY World Champion Giants? When did I become the owner?
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#41 | 1446 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
MY World Champion Giants? When did I become the owner?
They are EVERYBODY'S Giants!!
Babe Ruth  
#42 | 1446 days ago
BDV4U (+)

ML31 wrote:
They are EVERYBODY'S Giants!!
Then I want to free up some payroll and deal Lincecum to the Cardinals and Posey to the Reds. LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#43 | 1445 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Then I want to free up some payroll and deal Lincecum to the Cardinals and Posey to the Reds. LOL
But then they wouldn't be Giants....
Babe Ruth  
#44 | 1444 days ago

pedroia better than Cano WaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH , you are an Idiot , yea you are !!!!
Babe Ruth  
#45 | 1444 days ago
BDV4U (+)

ML31 wrote:
But then they wouldn't be Giants....
Nothing gets past you, does it? LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#46 | 1433 days ago

Pedroia is not better then Cano no second basemen is better the Cano none.
Babe Ruth  
#47 | 1433 days ago

BaseCoach wrote:
Shoeless Joe may be the single best hitter in history.
Big cheat Shoeless isn't Babe Ruth either but he is a hall of famer.
Babe Ruth  
#48 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Pedroia is not better then Cano no second basemen is better the Cano none.
None?   Your Yankee bias knows no bounds.

Eddie Collins, Bobby Doerr, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gherenger, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Morgan, Jackie Robinson, Ryne Sandberg...  And that's just off the top of my head....
Babe Ruth  
#49 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
None?   Your Yankee bias knows no bounds.

Eddie Collins, Bobby Doerr, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gherenger, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Morgan, Jackie Robinson, Ryne Sandberg...  And that's just off the top of my head....
PLAYING I MEAN NOT EVER HE IS THE BEST SECOND BASEBALL ALL AROUND PLAYER.
Babe Ruth  
#50 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
PLAYING I MEAN NOT EVER HE IS THE BEST SECOND BASEBALL ALL AROUND PLAYER.
Perhaps ONLY for 2010.  It remains to be seen if it will be for a career.
Babe Ruth  
#51 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Perhaps ONLY for 2010.  It remains to be seen if it will be for a career.
Best player in the AL this year MVP, All-Star, Gold Glove he won't get the MVP because of the Yankee haters won't vote for an Yankee player
Babe Ruth  
#52 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Perhaps ONLY for 2010.  It remains to be seen if it will be for a career.
WELL IT HUGE MY JOB IS TO PUSH THE LIMITS AS FAR AS I CAN PUSH LIMITS. BUT IT BIG BUT IT REAL THE NUMBERS ARE REAL.
Babe Ruth  
#53 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Best player in the AL this year MVP, All-Star, Gold Glove he won't get the MVP because of the Yankee haters won't vote for an Yankee player
All star selections are worthless.  It mostly signifies a good first half.  And then so many players make the roster already...  Nevermind injury replacements and such...  It just cheapens the accomplishment.    And ever since Palmiero won the first base Gold Glove playing most of his season as a DH, it makes that award worthless too.  It was already given based on reputation making it an iffy award to begin with.

The media LOVES the Yankees and will run to them whenever they can slightly justify it.


But...  Looking at the numbers...   A very good case can be made for Cabrera and Hamilton before Cano.  In fact, some might successfully argue Bautista, Kornerko and Tiexiera for MVP before Cano.  That is, if you get rid of your Yankee bias....
Babe Ruth  
#54 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
WELL IT HUGE MY JOB IS TO PUSH THE LIMITS AS FAR AS I CAN PUSH LIMITS. BUT IT BIG BUT IT REAL THE NUMBERS ARE REAL.
I said it before and I will say it again...


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Babe Ruth  
#55 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
All star selections are worthless.  It mostly signifies a good first half.  And then so many players make the roster already...  Nevermind injury replacements and such...  It just cheapens the accomplishment.    And ever since Palmiero won the first base Gold Glove playing most of his season as a DH, it makes that award worthless too.  It was already given based on reputation making it an iffy award to begin with.

The media LOVES the Yankees and will run to them whenever they can slightly justify it.


But...  Looking at the numbers...   A very good case can be made for Cabrera and Hamilton before Cano.  In fact, some might successfully argue Bautista, Kornerko and Tiexiera for MVP before Cano.  That is, if you get rid of your Yankee bias....
Cabrera didn't make the playoff so he wasn't valuable for his team. Bautista didn't make the playoff so he wasn't valuable for his team again THE TERM VALUABLE TO ME MEAN'S A PERSON THAT HELPS HIS TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFF IF YOU DON'T DO THAT YOUR NOT THAT VALUALBE. HAMILTON DIDN'T PLAY THE ENTIRE SEASON HE MISSED LIKE A MONTH. KORNERKO didn't make the playoffS so he wasn't valuable for his team again TEIXIERA HAD MORE HOME RUN'S TRUST ME I SEEN BOTH EVERYDAY CANO JUST WAS A BETTER PLAYER.

VOTERS DON'T LIKE VOTING FOR YANKEE PLAYER CC SHOULD BE CY YOUNG WIN AND LOSES MENT FAR MORE THEN FELIX HIS TEAM WAS TRASH.     GOLD GLOVE CANO WAS THE BEST DIFFENSIVE SECOND BASEMEN IN BASEBALL 2010 HE ONLY HAD 3 ERRORS GOOD.
Babe Ruth  
#56 | 1433 days ago

I see...   But what you fail to realize is that you don't consider how much worse the teams they were on would be without their offensive contributions.  Plus, using only playoff teams as a candidacy eligibility threshold is a slippery slope.  For example, no way the Giants make the playoffs without Lincecum or Cain or Torres or Huff or Sanchez, etc.  So who do you pick as the ONE guy?

Put Cabrera or Bautista on your Yankees and they win the division by 6 games at least.  So they seem pretty valuable guys to me.

THE TERM VALUABLE TO ME MEAN'S A PERSON THAT HELPS HIS TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFF

No...  "Valuable" is how much better is the team with that guy than without him.  Playoffs have little to do with it.

VOTERS DON'T LIKE VOTING FOR YANKEE PLAYER

Not true.  In fact, most are swayed simply because a player plays in New York.  It is a tremendous advantage.  In fact, there are a number of players in the Hall of Fame that shouldn't be there but are in just because they played for the Yankees.

CC SHOULD BE CY YOUNG WIN AND LOSES MENT FAR MORE THEN FELIX HIS TEAM WAS TRASH.

The pitcher, especially in the American League, has ZERO control over wins and losses.  CC did not pitch as well as Felix.  Period.  It is WAY easier going out there to pitch knowing you are going to get 6 runs of support than heading out there knowing your team will struggle to plate a mere 2 runs.  CC had the wins because his team gave him those 6 runs every time out.  Felix didn't have that luxury so he doesn't have the wins.  However, in every other pitching category (You know, the ones that actually measure how well someone pitched, not how good an offense his team had)  he was BETTER than CC.  The voters saw this and voted appropriately.  You saying his team was trash was precisely the reason wins and losses weren't considered as much as other years.  Why punish a great pitcher when his team can't hit?   Why reward a pitcher because he is on a team that does?  Both pitchers have no control over that.

Defense is about more than errors.  Maybe Cano only had 3 errors because he didn't have the range other 2nd basemen have?   Maybe he rarely took a risk?  Defense is difficult to measure.
Babe Ruth  
#57 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Cabrera didn't make the playoff so he wasn't valuable for his team. Bautista didn't make the playoff so he wasn't valuable for his team again THE TERM VALUABLE TO ME MEAN'S A PERSON THAT HELPS HIS TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFF IF YOU DON'T DO THAT YOUR NOT THAT VALUALBE. HAMILTON DIDN'T PLAY THE ENTIRE SEASON HE MISSED LIKE A MONTH. KORNERKO didn't make the playoffS so he wasn't valuable for his team again TEIXIERA HAD MORE HOME RUN'S TRUST ME I SEEN BOTH EVERYDAY CANO JUST WAS A BETTER PLAYER.

VOTERS DON'T LIKE VOTING FOR YANKEE PLAYER CC SHOULD BE CY YOUNG WIN AND LOSES MENT FAR MORE THEN FELIX HIS TEAM WAS TRASH.     GOLD GLOVE CANO WAS THE BEST DIFFENSIVE SECOND BASEMEN IN BASEBALL 2010 HE ONLY HAD 3 ERRORS GOOD.
Do you realize that your argument that CC should have won the Cy Young is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on this website? And that's saying an awful lot.
Babe Ruth  
#58 | 1433 days ago

Pat wrote:
Do you realize that your argument that CC should have won the Cy Young is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on this website? And that's saying an awful lot.
Sabathia or Price should win the Cy Young because in my book those were the pitchers the really mattered. Feliz win or any of the other stuff didn't mean anything at all. The other pitchers got into the playoffs.
Babe Ruth  
#59 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Sabathia or Price should win the Cy Young because in my book those were the pitchers the really mattered. Feliz win or any of the other stuff didn't mean anything at all. The other pitchers got into the playoffs.
It's comments like that which prove you don't know anything about baseball.
Babe Ruth  
#60 | 1433 days ago

(Edited by TatsuKlinga2812812)
ML31 wrote:
It's comments like that which prove you don't know anything about baseball.
ONLY ONE AWARD MATTERS ANYWAYS THAT IS THE WORLD SERIES. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING I THINK MVP'S SHOULD ONLY GO TO PLAYERS WHO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND THE CY YOUNG SHOULD BE THE PITCHERS MVP ALL AWARDS SHOULD GO TO PLAYERS WELL THOSE TWO AWARDS
Babe Ruth  
#61 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
ONLY ONE AWARD MATTERS ANYWAYS THAT IS THE WORLD SERIES. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING I THINK MVP'S SHOULD ONLY GO TO PLAYERS WHO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AND THE CY YOUNG SHOULD BE THE PITCHERS MVP ALL AWARDS SHOULD GO TO PLAYERS WELL THOSE TWO AWARDS
You are certainly entitled to your personal viewpoint.

However, be prepared when sharing that viewpoint to get ridiculed for being as short sighted as the Commissioner and owners when it comes to the game of baseball.

For example...  Suppose the best pitcher that year pitches for a crappy team?  Then the award for the best pitcher that year cannot go to the best pitcher.  Doesn't that seem a tad exclusionary?
Babe Ruth  
#62 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
You are certainly entitled to your personal viewpoint.

However, be prepared when sharing that viewpoint to get ridiculed for being as short sighted as the Commissioner and owners when it comes to the game of baseball.

For example...  Suppose the best pitcher that year pitches for a crappy team?  Then the award for the best pitcher that year cannot go to the best pitcher.  Doesn't that seem a tad exclusionary?
i just think one rule in an award is having important win's. Feliz didn't but both Sabathia and Price when they pitched mean's something too the team it self fact.

PLAYERS FROM WINNING TEAM'S SHOULD GET THE MAJOR AWARDS BECAUSE THE WIN MEANING SOMETHING MEAN'S MORE TO ME THEN A PITCHER WHO IS GOOD BUT PITCHES USELESS GAMES.


MVP ALSO SHOULD NEVER GO TO A PLAYER WHO TEAM DOESN'T WIN ANYTHING BUT LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THE OWNERS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

BUT TO YOU MVP AND STUFF MEAN MORE THEN WORLD SERIES ANYWAYS.
Babe Ruth  
#63 | 1433 days ago

Pat wrote:
Do you realize that your argument that CC should have won the Cy Young is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on this website? And that's saying an awful lot.
Your a Red Sox fan so you have no room in talkin about anything that has to do with the Yankee lol
Babe Ruth  
#64 | 1433 days ago

Pat wrote:
Do you realize that your argument that CC should have won the Cy Young is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on this website? And that's saying an awful lot.
You once said Dustin was better then Cano so you have no Idea
Babe Ruth  
#65 | 1433 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
i just think one rule in an award is having important win's. Feliz didn't but both Sabathia and Price when they pitched mean's something too the team it self fact.

PLAYERS FROM WINNING TEAM'S SHOULD GET THE MAJOR AWARDS BECAUSE THE WIN MEANING SOMETHING MEAN'S MORE TO ME THEN A PITCHER WHO IS GOOD BUT PITCHES USELESS GAMES.


MVP ALSO SHOULD NEVER GO TO A PLAYER WHO TEAM DOESN'T WIN ANYTHING BUT LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THE OWNERS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

BUT TO YOU MVP AND STUFF MEAN MORE THEN WORLD SERIES ANYWAYS.
But for pitchers...  Wins are more of a TEAM stat than an individual stat.  Also, the FACT is...  Sabathia or Price didn't pitch as well as Hernandez did.  The numbers prove this.

Also, if the post season awards mean so very little to you, why are you moaning and groaning about who won them?

And again a correction.  I never said post season awards mean any more or less than a World Series.  But I will say that I seem to have a more reasoned perspective of them than you do....
Babe Ruth  
#66 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
But for pitchers...  Wins are more of a TEAM stat than an individual stat.  Also, the FACT is...  Sabathia or Price didn't pitch as well as Hernandez did.  The numbers prove this.

Also, if the post season awards mean so very little to you, why are you moaning and groaning about who won them?

And again a correction.  I never said post season awards mean any more or less than a World Series.  But I will say that I seem to have a more reasoned perspective of them than you do....
LOSING PERSPECTIVE THAT IS ABOUT IT MY TEAM MAKES THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR YOUR TEAM NEVER MAKES IT YANKEES NEVER TOOK 50+ YEARS TO DO ANYTHING YOUR SURE DID AND IT WILL BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY GET ANOTHER WORLD SERIES.
Babe Ruth  
#67 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
But for pitchers...  Wins are more of a TEAM stat than an individual stat.  Also, the FACT is...  Sabathia or Price didn't pitch as well as Hernandez did.  The numbers prove this.

Also, if the post season awards mean so very little to you, why are you moaning and groaning about who won them?

And again a correction.  I never said post season awards mean any more or less than a World Series.  But I will say that I seem to have a more reasoned perspective of them than you do....
AS FOR WORLD SERIES LET LOOK AT Ichiro Suzuki AND DEREK JETER BOTH HAVE SIMILAR STYLES BOTH ARE REALLY JUST HITTERS RATHER THEN SLUGGERS SIMILAR LIFE TIME STATS OVER ALL ICHIRO IS A BETTER PLAYER BUT WHO HAS THE BETTER OVERALL CAREER. REALLY PICK ONE THEY ARE THE SAME TYPE PLAYERS MORE HITTERS THEN ALBERT PUJOLS OR A-ROD
Babe Ruth  
#68 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
But for pitchers...  Wins are more of a TEAM stat than an individual stat.  Also, the FACT is...  Sabathia or Price didn't pitch as well as Hernandez did.  The numbers prove this.

Also, if the post season awards mean so very little to you, why are you moaning and groaning about who won them?

And again a correction.  I never said post season awards mean any more or less than a World Series.  But I will say that I seem to have a more reasoned perspective of them than you do....
LOSING PERSPECTIVE THAT IS ABOUT IT MY TEAM MAKES THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR YOUR TEAM NEVER MAKES IT YANKEES NEVER TOOK 50+ YEARS TO DO ANYTHING YOUR SURE DID AND IT WILL BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY GET ANOTHER WORLD SERIES.
Babe Ruth  
#69 | 1433 days ago

ML31 wrote:
But for pitchers...  Wins are more of a TEAM stat than an individual stat.  Also, the FACT is...  Sabathia or Price didn't pitch as well as Hernandez did.  The numbers prove this.

Also, if the post season awards mean so very little to you, why are you moaning and groaning about who won them?

And again a correction.  I never said post season awards mean any more or less than a World Series.  But I will say that I seem to have a more reasoned perspective of them than you do....
OR SHOULD I SAY WHO CAREER WOULD YOU TAKE DEREK JETER OR Ichiro Suzuki
Babe Ruth  
#70 | 1432 days ago

Ok just with this line of thinking letsd only pick MVPs, Cy Young winners from teams that make it to the World Series. Not even the best teams making to the playoffs. We have seen that over and over again.
Babe Ruth  
#71 | 1432 days ago

Wow man you are really out there with your line of thinking. Awards does not mean more then a ring, that is the big picture. No matter how this is broken down barney style for you, I do not believe you will ever get it.
Babe Ruth  
#72 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
LOSING PERSPECTIVE THAT IS ABOUT IT MY TEAM MAKES THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR YOUR TEAM NEVER MAKES IT YANKEES NEVER TOOK 50+ YEARS TO DO ANYTHING YOUR SURE DID AND IT WILL BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY GET ANOTHER WORLD SERIES.
THAT's the best you got?  Ridiculing the team I am a fan of instead of defending your position?

That suggests strongly that even you yourself don't have faith in what you say.

That is such a 3rd grade school yard thing to do....
Babe Ruth  
#73 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
OR SHOULD I SAY WHO CAREER WOULD YOU TAKE DEREK JETER OR Ichiro Suzuki
I don't understand what you mean by "who's career would I take".   In what sense?   Contract wise?  Admiration?  Circumstance?  Baseball ability?  The answers are all different depending on what you mean.
Babe Ruth  
#74 | 1432 days ago

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jaysinw wrote:
Ok just with this line of thinking letsd only pick MVPs, Cy Young winners from teams that make it to the World Series. Not even the best teams making to the playoffs. We have seen that over and over again.
Cy Young is one thing but MVP is another I didn't say team's that win the World Series or make the World Series win the MVP I SAID TEAM'S THAT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THOSE PLAYERS SHOULD GET THE MVP. V = VALUABLE TO ME THAT MEAN TO BE VALUABLE YOU HAVE A TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS STRAIGHT UP.

HOW VALUABLE CAN A PLAYER BE TO A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER WHAT.    VALUABLE IS NOT THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR IF IT WAS THAT GIVE IT TO THE BEST PLAYER EVEN ON A LOSING TEAM. BUT TO BE VALUABLE YOU MUST HAVE A PLAYOFF MAKING TEAM NO MATTER WHAT. IT STUPID TO GIVE AN MVP TO NON PLAYOFF MAKING PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR SURE NOT VALUABLE TO THE TEAM THEY PLAY FOR OR FOR THE LEAGUE BECAUSE THE TEAM DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS




I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE 100 HOME RUN'S IF IT DOESN'T HELP THE TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT THAT VALUABLE AND THAT PERSON SHOULDN'T BE MVP ON THE OTHER SIDE IF A PLAYER HITS 30 HOMERUN'S AND HIT HELPS THE TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFF THE PERSON SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AN MVP TYPE PERSON IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE THE BEST AMONG PLAYOFF GOING TEAMS.
Babe Ruth  
#75 | 1432 days ago

ML31 wrote:
I don't understand what you mean by "who's career would I take".   In what sense?   Contract wise?  Admiration?  Circumstance?  Baseball ability?  The answers are all different depending on what you mean.
WHOLE CAREER NOT PIECES BUT WHOLE CAREER YEAH DEREK JETER ISN'T THE BETTER OF THE TWO BUT HE HAD A FAR BETTER CAREER.
Babe Ruth  
#76 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Cy Young is one thing but MVP is another I didn't say team's that win the World Series or make the World Series win the MVP I SAID TEAM'S THAT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THOSE PLAYERS SHOULD GET THE MVP. V = VALUABLE TO ME THAT MEAN TO BE VALUABLE YOU HAVE A TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS STRAIGHT UP.

HOW VALUABLE CAN A PLAYER BE TO A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER WHAT.    VALUABLE IS NOT THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR IF IT WAS THAT GIVE IT TO THE BEST PLAYER EVEN ON A LOSING TEAM. BUT TO BE VALUABLE YOU MUST HAVE A PLAYOFF MAKING TEAM NO MATTER WHAT. IT STUPID TO GIVE AN MVP TO NON PLAYOFF MAKING PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR SURE NOT VALUABLE TO THE TEAM THEY PLAY FOR OR FOR THE LEAGUE BECAUSE THE TEAM DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS




I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE 100 HOME RUN'S IF IT DOESN'T HELP THE TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT THAT VALUABLE AND THAT PERSON SHOULDN'T BE MVP ON THE OTHER SIDE IF A PLAYER HITS 30 HOMERUN'S AND HIT HELPS THE TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFF THE PERSON SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AN MVP TYPE PERSON IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE THE BEST AMONG PLAYOFF GOING TEAMS.
Another problem with your take on MVPs is that as making the playoffs gets easier and easier, you open yourself to more and more players.   Why not just open it up to everyone?

How valuable is a player to a team that doesn't make the playoffs?  He can be VERY valuable.  He helps the team win games.  Without him, perhaps they REALLY suck.  Without that guy having a big year, maybe they draw fewer fans.  With him, they sell more gear.  Sell more beer.  More people are in the seats to watch his big season.  And, the team wins more games.  That is VERY valuable in my book.
Babe Ruth  
#77 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
WHOLE CAREER NOT PIECES BUT WHOLE CAREER YEAH DEREK JETER ISN'T THE BETTER OF THE TWO BUT HE HAD A FAR BETTER CAREER.
I didn't say anything about "pieces" of a career.

You didn't answer the question.  In what sense do you mean "whole career"?  I do not know what you are getting at.  Do you mean money made?  Do you mean baseball ability?   Do you include life off the field?  Are you asking who is the better baseball player?  Clear it up.  
Babe Ruth  
#78 | 1432 days ago

ML31 wrote:
I didn't say anything about "pieces" of a career.

You didn't answer the question.  In what sense do you mean "whole career"?  I do not know what you are getting at.  Do you mean money made?  Do you mean baseball ability?   Do you include life off the field?  Are you asking who is the better baseball player?  Clear it up.  
ALL OF THE ABOVE
Babe Ruth  
#79 | 1432 days ago

(Edited by TatsuKlinga2812812)
ML31 wrote:
Another problem with your take on MVPs is that as making the playoffs gets easier and easier, you open yourself to more and more players.   Why not just open it up to everyone?

How valuable is a player to a team that doesn't make the playoffs?  He can be VERY valuable.  He helps the team win games.  Without him, perhaps they REALLY suck.  Without that guy having a big year, maybe they draw fewer fans.  With him, they sell more gear.  Sell more beer.  More people are in the seats to watch his big season.  And, the team wins more games.  That is VERY valuable in my book.
Another problem with your take on MVPs is that as making the playoffs gets easier and easier, you open yourself to more and more players. STILL WHO EVER MAKES THE PLAYOFFS    Why not just open it up to everyone? CHANGE THE NAME TO PLAYER OF THE YEAR OR GIVE A PLAYERS NAME LIKE BABE RUTH AWARD LIKE THEY DID WITH CY YOUNG.  ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE.. A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.

IF YOU WANT THE AWARD TO GO TOO THE PLAYER WHO SELLS THE MOST AWARD GIVE IT TOO THE NAME OF BS AWARD OR BEER SELLING AWARD THE MVP IS NOT FOR THAT

ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.         VOTTO EARNED IT HE MADE THE PLAYOFFS HE GOT IT AND HE EARNED IT.

How valuable is a player to a team that doesn't make the playoffs?  He can be VERY valuable.  WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. He helps the team win games. BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. Without him, perhaps they REALLY suck.  THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT. Without that guy having a big year, maybe they draw fewer fans.  With him, they sell more gear.  Sell more beer.  ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS         PLAYER THAT DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET THE MVP THE STAT THEY CREATE ARE USELESS BECAUSE WHAT EVER THEY DID DIDN'T EVEN GET THEM ANYWHERE STRAIGHT UP.



PLAYER IF THE YEAR: A PLAYER WHO THE BEST OF THE YEAR THIS CAN GO TO ANYONE.

MOST VALUABLE PLAYER: A PLAYER OF A WINNING TEAM OUT DOING OTHER PLAYERS OF WINNING TEAM'S

 More people are in the seats to watch his big season.  And, the team wins more games.  That is VERY




Another problem with your take on MVPs is that as making the playoffs gets easier and easier, you open yourself to more and more players. STILL WHO EVER MAKES THE PLAYOFFS    Why not just open it up to everyone? CHANGE THE NAME TO PLAYER OF THE YEAR OR GIVE A PLAYERS NAME LIKE BABE RUTH AWARD LIKE THEY DID WITH CY YOUNG.  ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE.. A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.



ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.         VOTTO EARNED IT HE MADE THE PLAYOFFS HE GOT IT AND HE EARNED IT.

How valuable is a player to a team that doesn't make the playoffs?  He can be VERY valuable.  WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. He helps the team win games. BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. Without him, perhaps they REALLY suck.  THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT. Without that guy having a big year, maybe they draw fewer fans.  With him, they sell more gear.  Sell more beer.  ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS         PLAYER THAT DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET THE MVP THE STAT THEY CREATE ARE USELESS BECAUSE WHAT EVER THEY DID DIDN'T EVEN GET THEM ANYWHERE STRAIGHT UP.



PLAYER IF THE YEAR: A PLAYER WHO THE BEST OF THE YEAR THIS CAN GO TO ANYONE.

MOST VALUABLE PLAYER: A PLAYER OF A WINNING TEAM OUT DOING OTHER PLAYERS OF WINNING TEAM'S

 More people are in the seats to watch his big season.  And, the team wins more games.  That is VERY valuable in my book.  VALUALBE NOT FOR A BASEBALL STAND POINT YOU CAN GIVE THE MVP TO A BAD TEAM CHANGE THE NAME OF THE WORLD BECAUSE IT IS NOT VALUABLE ANYMORE IT JUST AS BAD AS THE GOLD GLOVE OR OTHER BULLSHIP AWARDS.   YOU WANT THE MVP TO BE A BULLSHIP AWARD YOU HAVE TO BE JUST GOOD HAVE NO IMPACT ON YOUR TEAM MAKING THE PLAYOFFS.   SHOWS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT AWARD IN THE GAME. ITS NOT THE BEST PLAYER AWARD BUT THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER AWARD BIG DIFFERENCE.     MVP'S MUST MAKE THE PLAYOFFS
Babe Ruth  
#80 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
ALL OF THE ABOVE
Well...  Regarding money, Jeter makes more.  So I guess he had the better career money wise.
Better baseball skills?  Suzuki is clearly the superior player hands down.
I don't know enough about their lives off the field to judge it.  Jeter is a star around New York and Suzuki is an even bigger star in Japan.  So I guess that may be a wash.

And personally, I'd rather play for the Mariners than the Yankees.  That is, if I had a choice.  But that's just me.

Anything else?
Babe Ruth  
#81 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Another problem with your take on MVPs is that as making the playoffs gets easier and easier, you open yourself to more and more players. STILL WHO EVER MAKES THE PLAYOFFS    Why not just open it up to everyone? CHANGE THE NAME TO PLAYER OF THE YEAR OR GIVE A PLAYERS NAME LIKE BABE RUTH AWARD LIKE THEY DID WITH CY YOUNG.  ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE.. A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.

IF YOU WANT THE AWARD TO GO TOO THE PLAYER WHO SELLS THE MOST AWARD GIVE IT TOO THE NAME OF BS AWARD OR BEER SELLING AWARD THE MVP IS NOT FOR THAT

ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.         VOTTO EARNED IT HE MADE THE PLAYOFFS HE GOT IT AND HE EARNED IT.

How valuable is a player to a team that doesn't make the playoffs?  He can be VERY valuable.  WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. He helps the team win games. BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. Without him, perhaps they REALLY suck.  THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT. Without that guy having a big year, maybe they draw fewer fans.  With him, they sell more gear.  Sell more beer.  ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS         PLAYER THAT DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET THE MVP THE STAT THEY CREATE ARE USELESS BECAUSE WHAT EVER THEY DID DIDN'T EVEN GET THEM ANYWHERE STRAIGHT UP.



PLAYER IF THE YEAR: A PLAYER WHO THE BEST OF THE YEAR THIS CAN GO TO ANYONE.

MOST VALUABLE PLAYER: A PLAYER OF A WINNING TEAM OUT DOING OTHER PLAYERS OF WINNING TEAM'S

 More people are in the seats to watch his big season.  And, the team wins more games.  That is VERY




Another problem with your take on MVPs is that as making the playoffs gets easier and easier, you open yourself to more and more players. STILL WHO EVER MAKES THE PLAYOFFS    Why not just open it up to everyone? CHANGE THE NAME TO PLAYER OF THE YEAR OR GIVE A PLAYERS NAME LIKE BABE RUTH AWARD LIKE THEY DID WITH CY YOUNG.  ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE.. A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.



ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.         VOTTO EARNED IT HE MADE THE PLAYOFFS HE GOT IT AND HE EARNED IT.

How valuable is a player to a team that doesn't make the playoffs?  He can be VERY valuable.  WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. He helps the team win games. BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. Without him, perhaps they REALLY suck.  THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT. Without that guy having a big year, maybe they draw fewer fans.  With him, they sell more gear.  Sell more beer.  ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS         PLAYER THAT DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET THE MVP THE STAT THEY CREATE ARE USELESS BECAUSE WHAT EVER THEY DID DIDN'T EVEN GET THEM ANYWHERE STRAIGHT UP.



PLAYER IF THE YEAR: A PLAYER WHO THE BEST OF THE YEAR THIS CAN GO TO ANYONE.

MOST VALUABLE PLAYER: A PLAYER OF A WINNING TEAM OUT DOING OTHER PLAYERS OF WINNING TEAM'S

 More people are in the seats to watch his big season.  And, the team wins more games.  That is VERY valuable in my book.  VALUALBE NOT FOR A BASEBALL STAND POINT YOU CAN GIVE THE MVP TO A BAD TEAM CHANGE THE NAME OF THE WORLD BECAUSE IT IS NOT VALUABLE ANYMORE IT JUST AS BAD AS THE GOLD GLOVE OR OTHER BULLSHIP AWARDS.   YOU WANT THE MVP TO BE A BULLSHIP AWARD YOU HAVE TO BE JUST GOOD HAVE NO IMPACT ON YOUR TEAM MAKING THE PLAYOFFS.   SHOWS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT AWARD IN THE GAME. ITS NOT THE BEST PLAYER AWARD BUT THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER AWARD BIG DIFFERENCE.     MVP'S MUST MAKE THE PLAYOFFS
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Not true.  It actually is.  BTW...  I am a proponent of changing the names of the awards for the greats of the past.  Like MLB did with the Rookie of the Year.  It is officially the Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year Award.  But for some reason, no one ever calls it the Robinson Award.  

A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.

And yet they do.  All the time.  But then, neither of us get what we want.  I don't think a team that didn't finish in first place deserves a playoff spot.  Yet it happens.

IF YOU WANT THE AWARD TO GO TOO THE PLAYER WHO SELLS THE MOST AWARD GIVE IT TOO THE NAME OF BS AWARD OR BEER SELLING AWARD THE MVP IS NOT FOR THAT

If that is what you took out of what I said then the point, as usual, went right over your head.  I won't bother explaining it in a different way.  You still won't get it.

ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.

You aren't considering how valuable he was to the Cards.  Where would they be WITHOUT him?  Far far worse.... 

WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER

That is just one of the many ways that player is valuable to his team. 

BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS.

He can't bat every time up.  Once again, you are punishing a player for not having better players around him.  That is not his fault.  It's the team's fault.  One can even argue it is even more difficult to put up big numbers for a team that sucks.  Fewer players on base, etc.

THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT.

Not necessarily. Unless, any position other than first place is sucking.  In which case, the Yankees of 2010 "sucked" since they didn't win.

ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS

It's about both.
Babe Ruth  
#82 | 1432 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Well...  Regarding money, Jeter makes more.  So I guess he had the better career money wise.
Better baseball skills?  Suzuki is clearly the superior player hands down.
I don't know enough about their lives off the field to judge it.  Jeter is a star around New York and Suzuki is an even bigger star in Japan.  So I guess that may be a wash.

And personally, I'd rather play for the Mariners than the Yankees.  That is, if I had a choice.  But that's just me.

Anything else?
Well...  Regarding money, Jeter makes more.  So I guess he had the better career money wise.
Better baseball skills?  Suzuki is clearly the superior player hands down. BUT NOT NEARLY AS SUCCESSFUL DEREK JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES AND SUZUKI ISN'T NEVER GOING TO GET 5 WORLD SERIES UNLESS HE BECOMES AN YANKEE WHICH WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
I don't know enough about their lives off the field to judge it.  Jeter is a star around New York and Suzuki is an even bigger star in Japan. JETER IS BIGGER IN JAPAN THEN SUZUKI IS IN AMERICA PUT IT THAT WAY. IT BEEN POLL AND JERSEY SELL DEREK JETER IS THE MOST POPULAR BASEBALL PLAYER IN AMERICA. LASE I KNEW AMERICA HAD MORE PEOPLE THEN JAPAN. So I guess that may be a wash.

And personally, I'd rather play for the Mariners than the Yankees.  That is, if I had a choice.  But that's just me. YOU COULDN'T HANDLE NEW YORK CITY IT TAKES A MAN TO DEAL WITH NEW YORK. I HATE RAIN SO YOU CAN HAVE THE MARINERS NOT ME IT RAIN'S TO MUCH FOR MY LIKING. STAY IN CALI IT TAKE BALLS TO LIVE IN NEW YORK.
Babe Ruth  
#83 | 1432 days ago

ML31 wrote:
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Not true.  It actually is.  BTW...  I am a proponent of changing the names of the awards for the greats of the past.  Like MLB did with the Rookie of the Year.  It is officially the Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year Award.  But for some reason, no one ever calls it the Robinson Award.  

A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.

And yet they do.  All the time.  But then, neither of us get what we want.  I don't think a team that didn't finish in first place deserves a playoff spot.  Yet it happens.

IF YOU WANT THE AWARD TO GO TOO THE PLAYER WHO SELLS THE MOST AWARD GIVE IT TOO THE NAME OF BS AWARD OR BEER SELLING AWARD THE MVP IS NOT FOR THAT

If that is what you took out of what I said then the point, as usual, went right over your head.  I won't bother explaining it in a different way.  You still won't get it.

ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.

You aren't considering how valuable he was to the Cards.  Where would they be WITHOUT him?  Far far worse.... 

WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER

That is just one of the many ways that player is valuable to his team. 

BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS.

He can't bat every time up.  Once again, you are punishing a player for not having better players around him.  That is not his fault.  It's the team's fault.  One can even argue it is even more difficult to put up big numbers for a team that sucks.  Fewer players on base, etc.

THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT.

Not necessarily. Unless, any position other than first place is sucking.  In which case, the Yankees of 2010 "sucked" since they didn't win.

ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS

It's about both.
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Not true.  It actually is.  BTW...  I am a proponent of changing the names of the awards for the greats of the past.  Like MLB did with the Rookie of the Year.  It is officially the Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year Award.  But for some reason, no one ever calls it the Robinson Award. 

A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.

And yet they do.  All the time.  But then, neither of us get what we want.  I don't think a team that didn't finish in first place deserves a playoff spot.  Yet it happens. YOU WANT BASEBALL TO STAY THE SAME YET YOU WANT A CAP DOESN'T MAKE SENCE AT ALL REALLY

IF YOU WANT THE AWARD TO GO TOO THE PLAYER WHO SELLS THE MOST AWARD GIVE IT TOO THE NAME OF BS AWARD OR BEER SELLING AWARD THE MVP IS NOT FOR THAT

If that is what you took out of what I said then the point, as usual, went right over your head. GIVE THE BS AWARD TO ML BUT CALL IT THE PMS AWARD LOL. I won't bother explaining it in a different way.  You still won't get it.

ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.

You aren't considering how valuable he was to the Cards.  Where would they be WITHOUT him?  Far far worse.... BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE SHOULDN'T OF GOTTEN THE AWARD. VOTTO DID.

WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER

That is just one of the many ways that player is valuable to his team. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN MVP WHICH IS PROFORMANCE BASED. THAT MAKES DEREK JETER THE MVP EVERY YEAR THEN IF ITS ABOUT SELLING SEATS NO BASEBALL PLAYER SELL MORE SEATS AND GOODS THEN DEREK JETER.

BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS.

He can't bat every time up.  Once again, you are punishing a player for not having better players around him. YELL YEAH I WIILL BECAUSE HIS TEAM DIDN'T HELP EARN IT FOR HIM. MVP IS SOMEWHAT A TEAM AWARD YOUR TEAM MAKES IT YOU SHOULD HAVE A SHOT. YOUR TEAM DOESN NO WAY. YOUR TEAM IS A LOSSING TEAM YEAR AFTER YEAR YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS ABOUT. That is not his fault.  It's the team's fault. SO WHAT HE DIDN'T HELP HIS TEAM ENOUGH TO WIN A FEW MORE GAMES TO GET A PLAYOFF SPOT. One can even argue it is even more difficult to put up big numbers for a team that sucks. NOT REALLY IT'S ABOUT HITTING THE BALL PERSONAL STAT NO A TEAM STAT. A PLAYER ISN'T A PUPPET THE TEAM DOESN'T HAVE STINGS ON HIS ARM.   Fewer players on base, etc.

THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT.

Not necessarily. Unless, any position other than first place is sucking.  In which case, the Yankees of 2010 "sucked" since they didn't win. THE TEAM HAD MORE WIN'S THEN THE GIANT'S AND WAS IN FIRST PLACE FAR MORE GAMES THEN THE GIANT'S SO THE GIANT STUNK EVEN WORST THEN THE YANKEES. THEY LOST THE DIVISION BY ONE GAME AND HAD 95 WIN SOMETHING THE GIANT WILL HAVE GET/

ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS

It's about both. NOT THE MVP IF THAT WAS THE CASE GIVE IT TO DEREK JETER EVERY YEAR HE SELLS MORE TICKETS TELL.S MORE STUFF THEN ANY OTHER PLAYER.   DEREK IS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN THE SPORT EVEN MORE POPULAR THEN PUJOLS.
Babe Ruth  
#84 | 1432 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
Ok just with this line of thinking letsd only pick MVPs, Cy Young winners from teams that make it to the World Series. Not even the best teams making to the playoffs. We have seen that over and over again.
I know what you said. Lets said the Yankees Rangers and Twins won the conference. The wild card is between the Red sox and A's. both teams have won over 100 games. One win make into the play offs while the other goes home. Now you have the Twins that got in because they won their conference with say 84 wins. You think MVP should come from the Twins, Yankees Rangers and winner of the Red Sox and A's. That is sad logic really sad. Like I said if you are going to think that way we might as well go ahead and just pick the MVP from the teams in the World Series. Now just beacuse it is so sad the logic which you use if you can take a player off that team and they still would win I do not care if they would win the series then they are not that valuable. Every year you can say this one should have won over that one. Still where the teams place is not of concern and is why they are chosen before the playoffs begin. Like how you say CY is different. lol
Babe Ruth  
#85 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Well...  Regarding money, Jeter makes more.  So I guess he had the better career money wise.
Better baseball skills?  Suzuki is clearly the superior player hands down. BUT NOT NEARLY AS SUCCESSFUL DEREK JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES AND SUZUKI ISN'T NEVER GOING TO GET 5 WORLD SERIES UNLESS HE BECOMES AN YANKEE WHICH WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
I don't know enough about their lives off the field to judge it.  Jeter is a star around New York and Suzuki is an even bigger star in Japan. JETER IS BIGGER IN JAPAN THEN SUZUKI IS IN AMERICA PUT IT THAT WAY. IT BEEN POLL AND JERSEY SELL DEREK JETER IS THE MOST POPULAR BASEBALL PLAYER IN AMERICA. LASE I KNEW AMERICA HAD MORE PEOPLE THEN JAPAN. So I guess that may be a wash.

And personally, I'd rather play for the Mariners than the Yankees.  That is, if I had a choice.  But that's just me. YOU COULDN'T HANDLE NEW YORK CITY IT TAKES A MAN TO DEAL WITH NEW YORK. I HATE RAIN SO YOU CAN HAVE THE MARINERS NOT ME IT RAIN'S TO MUCH FOR MY LIKING. STAY IN CALI IT TAKE BALLS TO LIVE IN NEW YORK.
I depends on how you define success.  Suzuki came to the American Major Leagues because he was already one of the best hitters in Japan and he wanted to prove himself against ALL the best players.  And he was a success at it.

It is foolhardy to judge a player based on team titles.  A title is a TEAM thing.  Not an individual thing.  Individuals don't win titles.  TEAMS do.  For example, put Jeter on the Royals, and he has ZERO rings.  But he would be the EXACT SAME player.  I thought we were comparing an individual player's career.   Not the team he plays for.

Jeter may indeed sell more Jersey's and tees.  (Not sure why you went there as you seem to think that kind of success is meaningless)  But, the enterage that surrounds Suzuki dwarfs Jeter's to this day.  Baseball is FAR bigger in Japan than it is here.   And that gap is widening every day.

My decision to NOT play for the Yankees (If I had the skills and the choice, which I don't) has nothing to do with "handling" the New York media.  It is a moral judgment.  Not a selfish one.  I wouldn't want to be associated with the team that is well known as the example team of what is WRONG with Major League baseball today.  Any player with the skills to be in the Majors can handle New York. 

You also have a lot to learn about geography.  The MLB markets that get the most rain from April through October?   The two Florida markets and then, that's right...  New York City.  West coast rain comes almost exclusively in the winter.  And Seattle is a very nice town.  You should visit.
Babe Ruth  
#86 | 1432 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Not true.  It actually is.  BTW...  I am a proponent of changing the names of the awards for the greats of the past.  Like MLB did with the Rookie of the Year.  It is officially the Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year Award.  But for some reason, no one ever calls it the Robinson Award. 

A PLAYER THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD NEVER GET AN MVP.

And yet they do.  All the time.  But then, neither of us get what we want.  I don't think a team that didn't finish in first place deserves a playoff spot.  Yet it happens. YOU WANT BASEBALL TO STAY THE SAME YET YOU WANT A CAP DOESN'T MAKE SENCE AT ALL REALLY

IF YOU WANT THE AWARD TO GO TOO THE PLAYER WHO SELLS THE MOST AWARD GIVE IT TOO THE NAME OF BS AWARD OR BEER SELLING AWARD THE MVP IS NOT FOR THAT

If that is what you took out of what I said then the point, as usual, went right over your head. GIVE THE BS AWARD TO ML BUT CALL IT THE PMS AWARD LOL. I won't bother explaining it in a different way.  You still won't get it.

ALBERT PUJOLS DIDN'T EARN THE MVP THIS YEAR HE DIDN'T GET IT HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE NOT THE VALUABLE TO EVEN THE CARDINAL HE DIDN'T HELP THEM GET TO THE POST SEASON STRAIGHT UP DUDE.

You aren't considering how valuable he was to the Cards.  Where would they be WITHOUT him?  Far far worse.... BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE SHOULDN'T OF GOTTEN THE AWARD. VOTTO DID.

WRONG YOU MIGHT SELL MORE SEAT THEN NORMAL BUT LEAGUE WIDE HE ISN'T THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER

That is just one of the many ways that player is valuable to his team. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN MVP WHICH IS PROFORMANCE BASED. THAT MAKES DEREK JETER THE MVP EVERY YEAR THEN IF ITS ABOUT SELLING SEATS NO BASEBALL PLAYER SELL MORE SEATS AND GOODS THEN DEREK JETER.

BULL HE DIDN'T HELP IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MEAN THAT IS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS.

He can't bat every time up.  Once again, you are punishing a player for not having better players around him. YELL YEAH I WIILL BECAUSE HIS TEAM DIDN'T HELP EARN IT FOR HIM. MVP IS SOMEWHAT A TEAM AWARD YOUR TEAM MAKES IT YOU SHOULD HAVE A SHOT. YOUR TEAM DOESN NO WAY. YOUR TEAM IS A LOSSING TEAM YEAR AFTER YEAR YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS ABOUT. That is not his fault.  It's the team's fault. SO WHAT HE DIDN'T HELP HIS TEAM ENOUGH TO WIN A FEW MORE GAMES TO GET A PLAYOFF SPOT. One can even argue it is even more difficult to put up big numbers for a team that sucks. NOT REALLY IT'S ABOUT HITTING THE BALL PERSONAL STAT NO A TEAM STAT. A PLAYER ISN'T A PUPPET THE TEAM DOESN'T HAVE STINGS ON HIS ARM.   Fewer players on base, etc.

THE TEAM STILL SUCKS NO MATTER WHAT.

Not necessarily. Unless, any position other than first place is sucking.  In which case, the Yankees of 2010 "sucked" since they didn't win. THE TEAM HAD MORE WIN'S THEN THE GIANT'S AND WAS IN FIRST PLACE FAR MORE GAMES THEN THE GIANT'S SO THE GIANT STUNK EVEN WORST THEN THE YANKEES. THEY LOST THE DIVISION BY ONE GAME AND HAD 95 WIN SOMETHING THE GIANT WILL HAVE GET/

ITS NOT ABOUT SELLING MORE BEER BUT MAKKKKKKKKKKING THE PLAYOFFFSS

It's about both. NOT THE MVP IF THAT WAS THE CASE GIVE IT TO DEREK JETER EVERY YEAR HE SELLS MORE TICKETS TELL.S MORE STUFF THEN ANY OTHER PLAYER.   DEREK IS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN THE SPORT EVEN MORE POPULAR THEN PUJOLS.
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Well...  You are entitled to that opinion.  Even if it is one that NO ONE shares with you.

YOU WANT BASEBALL TO STAY THE SAME YET YOU WANT A CAP DOESN'T MAKE SENCE AT ALL REALLY

It makes perfect sense.  I want baseball to evolve and grow.  But that growth has to be a positive thing.  Not something that will turn people off to the game.  Adding playoff teams to baseball is like changing your rubber tires on your car to stone ones.  It's change, but it doesn't help improve your car any.  In fact, it helps to ruin it.

GIVE THE BS AWARD TO ML BUT CALL IT THE PMS AWARD LOL

You can't even insult well.  (sigh)

BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE SHOULDN'T OF GOTTEN THE AWARD. VOTTO DID.

You will probably get your wish.  Votto is a favorite.  But, making the playoffs is NOT a requirement.  It is considered, yes, but it is not weighed nearly as heavily as what kind of year did the player have.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN MVP WHICH IS PROFORMANCE BASED.

That is an odd thing for you to say.  You have been arguing AGAINST the MVP being performance based and that it should be TEAM based.

MVP IS SOMEWHAT A TEAM AWARD

Except that it isn't.  Not even somewhat.  It is given to an individual.  Not the team.

SO WHAT HE DIDN'T HELP HIS TEAM ENOUGH TO WIN A FEW MORE GAMES TO GET A PLAYOFF SPOT.

So, you are punishing a player who had a great year...  Who added at least 15-25 more wins on his own...  But because the rest of his team didn't do their part, he is excluded from your MVP candidacy.  That's lunacy.

NOT REALLY IT'S ABOUT HITTING THE BALL PERSONAL STAT NO A TEAM STAT.

Wait a minute...  Earlier you were saying it was about how well the team is.  Now you are changing your tune and saying it is an individual thing.  Which is it?   You can't limit it to playoff players and then say it is an individual thing.  Players in the playoffs wouldn't have made it if it weren't for the OTHER guys on their team.

THE TEAM HAD MORE WIN'S THEN THE GIANT'S AND WAS IN FIRST PLACE FAR MORE GAMES THEN THE GIANT'S SO THE GIANT STUNK EVEN WORST THEN THE YANKEES.

And yet, when the time came...  When the team was called to put forth their best effort...  It was the Giants who finished in FIRST place.  Not the Yankees.  And it was the Giants who won the world series with their incredible pitching staff.  It's not about how many days you were in first place.  It's about being in first place AFTER the 162nd game.  Funny you went there.  It goes against everything you have said about the baseball season in many other threads....
Babe Ruth  
#87 | 1432 days ago

And one more thing, dragon...

There already are post season awards given only to players in the playoffs.  The LCS and World Series MVP.  You will never see a player from a 5th place team winning those.   Happy now?
Babe Ruth  
#88 | 1432 days ago

ML31 wrote:
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Well...  You are entitled to that opinion.  Even if it is one that NO ONE shares with you.

YOU WANT BASEBALL TO STAY THE SAME YET YOU WANT A CAP DOESN'T MAKE SENCE AT ALL REALLY

It makes perfect sense.  I want baseball to evolve and grow.  But that growth has to be a positive thing.  Not something that will turn people off to the game.  Adding playoff teams to baseball is like changing your rubber tires on your car to stone ones.  It's change, but it doesn't help improve your car any.  In fact, it helps to ruin it.

GIVE THE BS AWARD TO ML BUT CALL IT THE PMS AWARD LOL

You can't even insult well.  (sigh)

BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE SHOULDN'T OF GOTTEN THE AWARD. VOTTO DID.

You will probably get your wish.  Votto is a favorite.  But, making the playoffs is NOT a requirement.  It is considered, yes, but it is not weighed nearly as heavily as what kind of year did the player have.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN MVP WHICH IS PROFORMANCE BASED.

That is an odd thing for you to say.  You have been arguing AGAINST the MVP being performance based and that it should be TEAM based.

MVP IS SOMEWHAT A TEAM AWARD

Except that it isn't.  Not even somewhat.  It is given to an individual.  Not the team.

SO WHAT HE DIDN'T HELP HIS TEAM ENOUGH TO WIN A FEW MORE GAMES TO GET A PLAYOFF SPOT.

So, you are punishing a player who had a great year...  Who added at least 15-25 more wins on his own...  But because the rest of his team didn't do their part, he is excluded from your MVP candidacy.  That's lunacy.

NOT REALLY IT'S ABOUT HITTING THE BALL PERSONAL STAT NO A TEAM STAT.

Wait a minute...  Earlier you were saying it was about how well the team is.  Now you are changing your tune and saying it is an individual thing.  Which is it?   You can't limit it to playoff players and then say it is an individual thing.  Players in the playoffs wouldn't have made it if it weren't for the OTHER guys on their team.

THE TEAM HAD MORE WIN'S THEN THE GIANT'S AND WAS IN FIRST PLACE FAR MORE GAMES THEN THE GIANT'S SO THE GIANT STUNK EVEN WORST THEN THE YANKEES.

And yet, when the time came...  When the team was called to put forth their best effort...  It was the Giants who finished in FIRST place.  Not the Yankees.  And it was the Giants who won the world series with their incredible pitching staff.  It's not about how many days you were in first place.  It's about being in first place AFTER the 162nd game.  Funny you went there.  It goes against everything you have said about the baseball season in many other threads....
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Well...  You are entitled to that opinion.  Even if it is one that NO ONE shares with you. MANY VOTERS WHO VOTE VIEW MY IDEA THEY EVEN SAID SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO VOTE FOR PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

YOU WANT BASEBALL TO STAY THE SAME YET YOU WANT A CAP DOESN'T MAKE SENCE AT ALL REALLY

It makes perfect sense.  I want baseball to evolve and grow. YET MARKETS IN THE US ARE TAPPED ONLY WAY TO GROW IS GO TOO OTHER COUNTRYS. But that growth has to be a positive thing.  Not something that will turn people off to the game.  PEOPLE FROM THE PAST ARE LOST NO MATTER WHAT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED TO REORDER THE DIVISION PUT HIGH MARKET TEAM WITH THEMSELVES AND LOW WITH THEMSELVE THIS WILL MAKE IT EASYER. Adding playoff teams to baseball is like changing your rubber tires on your car to stone ones. BASEBALL HAS GROWN UNLIKE YOU DUDE IT GROWN IN THE RIGHT SPOT SEATS BASEBALL SELLING MORE SEATS THEN EVER. THE YES NETWORK IS WORTH OVER 3 BILLION DOLLARS. It's change, but it doesn't help improve your car any.  In fact, it helps to ruin it.   LOL HELPS TO RUIN IT SO YOUR SAYING IF THE ROYAL FOR ONE YEAR GOT IN WITH THE EXTRA WILD CARD IT WON'T HELP THAT TEAM. IT WILL HELP. BASEBALL IS A REGIONAL SPORT ONLY BIG IS CURTAIN AREA'S MANY AREA'S BASEBALL TEAM'S WON WORK. LOOK AT THE REGIONAL RATINGS FOR BASEBALL.

GIVE THE BS AWARD TO ML BUT CALL IT THE PMS AWARD LOL.                   NO IT IS CREATIVE REALLY JUST LIKE MYSELF.

You can't even insult well.  (sigh) WELL YOU DON'T SEE DRAGONBLADE ANYMORE REASON FOR THAT IM NOT GOING TO SAY I MUST BE GOOD AT IT.

BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE SHOULDN'T OF GOTTEN THE AWARD. VOTTO DID.

You will probably get your wish.  Votto is a favorite. VOTTO ALREADY HAS IT YOU MUST NOT WATCH TV LOL.  But, making the playoffs is NOT a requirement. THEN IT'S NOT REALLY AN MVP AWARD IT'S THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR DIFFERENCE. LIKE I SAID ONLY PLAYERS WHO ARE VALUEABLE TO MAKING THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IT NOT AN MVP IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. IT STUPID TO GIVE IT TO PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.  It is considered, yes, but it is not weighed nearly as heavily as what kind of year did the player have. IT NEED TO BE BIG WHY BECAUSE IF YOUR NOT HELPING THE TEAM GET INTO THE PLAYOFF'S YOUR NOT THAT VALUEABLE.  IT NOT A NEW YORK THING EITHER IT THE NAME OF THE AWARD IT STUPID TO GIVE IT TO NO PLAYOFF PLAYERS.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN MVP WHICH IS PROFORMANCE BASED.

That is an odd thing for you to say.  You have been arguing AGAINST the MVP being performance based and that it should be TEAM based. IT PERFORMANCE BASED TO A POINT IF IT HELPS A WINNING TEAM IF YOUR GOING HOME AT THE END OF THE SEASON YOU SHOULDN'T GET AN MVP STRAIGHT UP. THE AWARD IS A JOKE WHEN THEY DO ONLY REAL AWARD ANYMORE IN THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP.

MVP IS SOMEWHAT A TEAM AWARD. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT IT DEPENDS ON HOW WELL YOUR TEAM IS IF YOU PLAY GREAT AND IT HELP THE TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS MVP IF IT DOESN'T NOPE

Except that it isn't.  Not even somewhat.  It is given to an individual. WINNING INDIVIDUAL PLAYOFF GOING INDIVIDUAL VALUEABLE MEAN'S THAT.

SO WHAT HE DIDN'T HELP HIS TEAM ENOUGH TO WIN A FEW MORE GAMES TO GET A PLAYOFF SPOT. EXACTLY TO BAD IF YOU DIDN'T HELP YOUR TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFFS. YOU SHOULDN'T GET REWARDED FOR YOUR TEAM LOSING.                    ALL AWARDS ARE SOMEWHAT ONE YOUR TEAM. LOOK AT GOLD GLOVE THAT CAN REALLY MATTER ON HOW YOUR TEAM THROWS THE BALL TO YOU OR YOU THROW IT.THAT MORE OR LESS A SEMI TEAM AWARD BECAUSE YOUR NEED YOUR TEAM TO BE GOOD TO WIN ONE.

So, you are punishing a player who had a great year... HELP IN FOR VALUABLE PLAYERS. THE PLAYER NOT VALUABLE ENOUGH BECAUSE HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.  Who added at least 15-25 more wins on his own... SO WHAT MIGHT OF NEEDED 35 WIN'S TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS. HE DIDN'T DO IT SOMEONE ELSE DID SO THAT PERSON SHOULD GET THE MVP NOT THE PLAYER WITH THE LOSING TEAM. But because the rest of his team didn't do their part, he is excluded from your MVP candidacy.YEP HARD HARD HARD.  That's lunacy. WHY DO VOTERS FOLLOW MY VIEWS MANY OF THEM DO. ALBERT PUJOLS GOT ON FIRST PLACE VOTE.   IT SHOULD BE BIASED ON HOW WELL YOUR TEAM DOES STRAIGHT UP.

NOT REALLY IT'S ABOUT HITTING THE BALL PERSONAL STAT NO A TEAM STAT.

Wait a minute...  Earlier you were saying it was about how well the team is.  Now you are changing your tune and saying it is an individual thing. IT ABOUT HIS IMPACT ON THE TEAM MAKING THE PLAYOFFS AND HIS TEAM HELPING HIM GET THE MVP.   MVP WINNERS ALWAYS HAD GOOD PLAYER BEHIND THEM TO HELP THEM GET THE AWARD. GOOD ENOUGH PLAYERS TO GOO TOO THE PLAYOFFS. Which is it?  BOTH BECAUSE THE AWARD YOU NEED THE TEAM TO DO GOOD AROUND YOU.  You can't limit it to playoff players and then say it is an individual thing. WELL IT INDIVIDUAL TO A POINT BUT YOU NEED YOUR TEAM TO HELP YOU WIN THE MVP IT ABOUT ALL ASPECTS OF PLAYING THE GAME IT'S NOT ABOUT OFFENSE. Players in the playoffs wouldn't have made it if it weren't for the OTHER guys on their team. NOPE

THE TEAM HAD MORE WIN'S THEN THE GIANT'S AND WAS IN FIRST PLACE FAR MORE GAMES THEN THE GIANT'S SO THE GIANT STUNK EVEN WORST THEN THE YANKEES.





YANKEE'S ARE HUGE ALL OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!



And yet, when the time came...  When the team was called to put forth their best effort...  It was the Giants who finished in FIRST place.  Not the Yankees.  BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE SOMETHING THE GIANT CAN'T DO. And it was the Giants who won the world series with their incredible pitching staff. WELL YANKEES DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE WITH A BETTER TEAM.  It's not about how many days you were in first place.  It's about being in first place AFTER the 162nd game.  Funny you went there.  It goes against everything you have said about the baseball season in many other threads....THIS IS ABOUT REGULAR SEASON YOUR TEAM WASN'T AS GOOD IN THE REGULAR SEASON. YOUR TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES BUT WASN'T THE BEST TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS. LOL PHILLIES WERE BUT YOU BEAT THEM WHICH HAPPENS TIME TO TIME SUCCESS SOMETIME MEAN YOUR GOING TO GET BEAT.
Babe Ruth 
Babe Ruth  
#89 | 1432 days ago

ML31 wrote:
I depends on how you define success.  Suzuki came to the American Major Leagues because he was already one of the best hitters in Japan and he wanted to prove himself against ALL the best players.  And he was a success at it.

It is foolhardy to judge a player based on team titles.  A title is a TEAM thing.  Not an individual thing.  Individuals don't win titles.  TEAMS do.  For example, put Jeter on the Royals, and he has ZERO rings.  But he would be the EXACT SAME player.  I thought we were comparing an individual player's career.   Not the team he plays for.

Jeter may indeed sell more Jersey's and tees.  (Not sure why you went there as you seem to think that kind of success is meaningless)  But, the enterage that surrounds Suzuki dwarfs Jeter's to this day.  Baseball is FAR bigger in Japan than it is here.   And that gap is widening every day.

My decision to NOT play for the Yankees (If I had the skills and the choice, which I don't) has nothing to do with "handling" the New York media.  It is a moral judgment.  Not a selfish one.  I wouldn't want to be associated with the team that is well known as the example team of what is WRONG with Major League baseball today.  Any player with the skills to be in the Majors can handle New York. 

You also have a lot to learn about geography.  The MLB markets that get the most rain from April through October?   The two Florida markets and then, that's right...  New York City.  West coast rain comes almost exclusively in the winter.  And Seattle is a very nice town.  You should visit.
I depends on how you define success.  Suzuki came to the American Major Leagues because he was already one of the best hitters in Japan and he wanted to prove himself against ALL the best players. HE IS NOT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER THEY BOTH HAVE SIMILAR STYLE HITTERS BOTH HAD A LOT OF HIT'S EACH YEAR.. BUT  And he was a success at it. BOTH ARE GOOD BUT SUZUKI ISN'T THAT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER NOT AT ALL BOTH AVERAGE WELL OVER 150 HITS PLUS WHAT PEOPLE TOLD ME SUZUKI IS RUDE

It is foolhardy to judge a player based on team titles.  A title is a TEAM thing.  Not an individual thing.  Individuals don't win titles.  TEAMS do. HE HAS MORE HIT IN THE PLAYOFFS THEN ANYONE. WORLD SERIES MVP BLAH BLAH BLAH HE HELPED EARN THOSE 5 WORLD SERIES.  For example, put Jeter on the Royals, and he has ZERO rings.  But he would be the EXACT SAME player.  I thought we were comparing an individual player's career.   Not the team he plays for. JORDAN HAS 6 TITLES HE WOULDN'T BE JORDAN IF HE DIDN'T HAVE 6 TITLES AND THAT'S AN TEAM THING ALSO PLUS JORDAN WOULD JUST KILL. FACE OVER ALL DEREK JETER OVERALL CAREER JUST DESTROYS  SUZUKI CAREER.

Jeter may indeed sell more Jersey's and tees. THEN ANY OTHER BASEBALL PLAYER EVEN SUZUKI NO ONE IN THE US EVEN CARES ABOUT SUZUKI NOOOOOOOOO ONE (Not sure why you went there as you seem to think that kind of success is meaningless)  But, the enterage that surrounds Suzuki dwarfs Jeter's to this day. WHY IS THAT HE NEED ONE HE FROM JAPAN. DEREK JETER DOESN'T NEED ONE BUT WHO HE HANGS OUT DOESN'T COMPARE. TIGER WOODS, MICHAEL JORDAN ON AND ON WHO ARE BIGGER THEN THOSE ATHLETES NOOOOOO ONE. JAY Z BLAH BLAH BLAH WHO BIGGER THEN JAY Z NO ONE, EMINEM WHO BIGGER THEN THAT NO ONE. JESSICA ALBE HE DATES WHO HOTTER THEN HER NO ONE. BLAH BLAH BLAH.  NOOOOOOOO ONE. Baseball is FAR bigger in Japan than it is here. I DON'T THINK SO IT HAS LESS PEOPLE  And that gap is widening every day. WHY THEY NEED TO PLACE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM. THE YANKEES ARE HUGE IN JAPAN OVER 12 MILLION VIEWERS I WONDER HOW YOUR GIANT DONE SINCE THEY STUNK IN RATING IN THE STATS.    YANKEES NEED TO PUT A TEAM OVER IN JAPAN IN ONE OF THE LEAGUES THEY WOULD BE HUGE IN JAPAN.   TWO TEAM'S ARE HUGE WORLD WIDE IN THE UNITED STATES THE LA LAKERS AND NEW YORK YANKEES EACH CITY HAS AN ASIAN MARKET AND HUGE MEDIA PRESENTS. THEY ARE HUGH IN JAPAN MORE THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE UNITED STATES FACT. YOU GIANT AND SORRY WASHINGTON DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE LOOK AT THE REAL NUMBERS.

My decision to NOT play for the Yankees (If I had the skills and the choice, which I don't) has nothing to do with "handling" the New York media.  It is a moral judgment.  Not a selfish one.  I wouldn't want to be associated with the team that is well known as the example team of what is WRONG with Major League baseball today.  Any player with the skills to be in the Majors can handle New York. YET THE MAJORS ARE SELLING MORE TICKETS THEN EVER. GUESS WHAT YANKEES SOLD MORE TICKETS THEN ANY TEAM BAD FOR BASEBALL. YANKEE GEAR ON ALMOST EVERY CELEB I SEE. YANKEE ARE A BRAND IN IT'S OWN NO OTHER TEAM CAN REALLY SAY THAT. IN BASEBALL 27 WORLD TITLE'S WORTH OVER 3 BILLION BUCKS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL NETWORK IN BASEBALL BLAH BLAH BLAH. POPE'S WANNA BE AT YANKEE STADIUM BLAH BLAH BLAH. THEY HAD THE BEST RATINGS IN YEAR UNLIKE YOURS ONE OF THE WORST. THE GIANT RANGER WORLD SERIES DIDN'T DRAW NOTHING. THE PROBLEM IS GET RID OF THE CRAPPY TEAMS LIKE ROYAL THEY ARE JUNK. THEY TAKE UP SPACE OR MOVE THEM ELSE WERE. WHAT OTHER TEAM ARE WORTH AS MUCH IN THE UNITED STATES THE COWBOY'S THAT IS IT COWBOY'S AND THEY ARE PARTNERS.

You also have a lot to learn about geography.  The MLB markets that get the most rain from April through October?   The two Florida markets and then, that's right...  New York City.  West coast rain comes almost exclusively in the winter.  And Seattle is a very nice town. I BEEN TO IT A LOT AND IT HAS RAIN RAIN RAIN LIKE VERY DAY THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS.. You should visit.
Babe Ruth  
#90 | 1431 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
ITS NOT A REAL MVP IF IT IS GIVIN TO A PLAYER OF A LOSING TEAM NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS STATS ARE STRAIGHT UP DUDE..

Well...  You are entitled to that opinion.  Even if it is one that NO ONE shares with you. MANY VOTERS WHO VOTE VIEW MY IDEA THEY EVEN SAID SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO VOTE FOR PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

YOU WANT BASEBALL TO STAY THE SAME YET YOU WANT A CAP DOESN'T MAKE SENCE AT ALL REALLY

It makes perfect sense.  I want baseball to evolve and grow. YET MARKETS IN THE US ARE TAPPED ONLY WAY TO GROW IS GO TOO OTHER COUNTRYS. But that growth has to be a positive thing.  Not something that will turn people off to the game.  PEOPLE FROM THE PAST ARE LOST NO MATTER WHAT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED TO REORDER THE DIVISION PUT HIGH MARKET TEAM WITH THEMSELVES AND LOW WITH THEMSELVE THIS WILL MAKE IT EASYER. Adding playoff teams to baseball is like changing your rubber tires on your car to stone ones. BASEBALL HAS GROWN UNLIKE YOU DUDE IT GROWN IN THE RIGHT SPOT SEATS BASEBALL SELLING MORE SEATS THEN EVER. THE YES NETWORK IS WORTH OVER 3 BILLION DOLLARS. It's change, but it doesn't help improve your car any.  In fact, it helps to ruin it.   LOL HELPS TO RUIN IT SO YOUR SAYING IF THE ROYAL FOR ONE YEAR GOT IN WITH THE EXTRA WILD CARD IT WON'T HELP THAT TEAM. IT WILL HELP. BASEBALL IS A REGIONAL SPORT ONLY BIG IS CURTAIN AREA'S MANY AREA'S BASEBALL TEAM'S WON WORK. LOOK AT THE REGIONAL RATINGS FOR BASEBALL.

GIVE THE BS AWARD TO ML BUT CALL IT THE PMS AWARD LOL.                   NO IT IS CREATIVE REALLY JUST LIKE MYSELF.

You can't even insult well.  (sigh) WELL YOU DON'T SEE DRAGONBLADE ANYMORE REASON FOR THAT IM NOT GOING TO SAY I MUST BE GOOD AT IT.

BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO HE SHOULDN'T OF GOTTEN THE AWARD. VOTTO DID.

You will probably get your wish.  Votto is a favorite. VOTTO ALREADY HAS IT YOU MUST NOT WATCH TV LOL.  But, making the playoffs is NOT a requirement. THEN IT'S NOT REALLY AN MVP AWARD IT'S THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR DIFFERENCE. LIKE I SAID ONLY PLAYERS WHO ARE VALUEABLE TO MAKING THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IT NOT AN MVP IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. IT STUPID TO GIVE IT TO PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.  It is considered, yes, but it is not weighed nearly as heavily as what kind of year did the player have. IT NEED TO BE BIG WHY BECAUSE IF YOUR NOT HELPING THE TEAM GET INTO THE PLAYOFF'S YOUR NOT THAT VALUEABLE.  IT NOT A NEW YORK THING EITHER IT THE NAME OF THE AWARD IT STUPID TO GIVE IT TO NO PLAYOFF PLAYERS.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN MVP WHICH IS PROFORMANCE BASED.

That is an odd thing for you to say.  You have been arguing AGAINST the MVP being performance based and that it should be TEAM based. IT PERFORMANCE BASED TO A POINT IF IT HELPS A WINNING TEAM IF YOUR GOING HOME AT THE END OF THE SEASON YOU SHOULDN'T GET AN MVP STRAIGHT UP. THE AWARD IS A JOKE WHEN THEY DO ONLY REAL AWARD ANYMORE IN THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP.

MVP IS SOMEWHAT A TEAM AWARD. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT IT DEPENDS ON HOW WELL YOUR TEAM IS IF YOU PLAY GREAT AND IT HELP THE TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS MVP IF IT DOESN'T NOPE

Except that it isn't.  Not even somewhat.  It is given to an individual. WINNING INDIVIDUAL PLAYOFF GOING INDIVIDUAL VALUEABLE MEAN'S THAT.

SO WHAT HE DIDN'T HELP HIS TEAM ENOUGH TO WIN A FEW MORE GAMES TO GET A PLAYOFF SPOT. EXACTLY TO BAD IF YOU DIDN'T HELP YOUR TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFFS. YOU SHOULDN'T GET REWARDED FOR YOUR TEAM LOSING.                    ALL AWARDS ARE SOMEWHAT ONE YOUR TEAM. LOOK AT GOLD GLOVE THAT CAN REALLY MATTER ON HOW YOUR TEAM THROWS THE BALL TO YOU OR YOU THROW IT.THAT MORE OR LESS A SEMI TEAM AWARD BECAUSE YOUR NEED YOUR TEAM TO BE GOOD TO WIN ONE.

So, you are punishing a player who had a great year... HELP IN FOR VALUABLE PLAYERS. THE PLAYER NOT VALUABLE ENOUGH BECAUSE HE DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.  Who added at least 15-25 more wins on his own... SO WHAT MIGHT OF NEEDED 35 WIN'S TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS. HE DIDN'T DO IT SOMEONE ELSE DID SO THAT PERSON SHOULD GET THE MVP NOT THE PLAYER WITH THE LOSING TEAM. But because the rest of his team didn't do their part, he is excluded from your MVP candidacy.YEP HARD HARD HARD.  That's lunacy. WHY DO VOTERS FOLLOW MY VIEWS MANY OF THEM DO. ALBERT PUJOLS GOT ON FIRST PLACE VOTE.   IT SHOULD BE BIASED ON HOW WELL YOUR TEAM DOES STRAIGHT UP.

NOT REALLY IT'S ABOUT HITTING THE BALL PERSONAL STAT NO A TEAM STAT.

Wait a minute...  Earlier you were saying it was about how well the team is.  Now you are changing your tune and saying it is an individual thing. IT ABOUT HIS IMPACT ON THE TEAM MAKING THE PLAYOFFS AND HIS TEAM HELPING HIM GET THE MVP.   MVP WINNERS ALWAYS HAD GOOD PLAYER BEHIND THEM TO HELP THEM GET THE AWARD. GOOD ENOUGH PLAYERS TO GOO TOO THE PLAYOFFS. Which is it?  BOTH BECAUSE THE AWARD YOU NEED THE TEAM TO DO GOOD AROUND YOU.  You can't limit it to playoff players and then say it is an individual thing. WELL IT INDIVIDUAL TO A POINT BUT YOU NEED YOUR TEAM TO HELP YOU WIN THE MVP IT ABOUT ALL ASPECTS OF PLAYING THE GAME IT'S NOT ABOUT OFFENSE. Players in the playoffs wouldn't have made it if it weren't for the OTHER guys on their team. NOPE

THE TEAM HAD MORE WIN'S THEN THE GIANT'S AND WAS IN FIRST PLACE FAR MORE GAMES THEN THE GIANT'S SO THE GIANT STUNK EVEN WORST THEN THE YANKEES.





YANKEE'S ARE HUGE ALL OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!



And yet, when the time came...  When the team was called to put forth their best effort...  It was the Giants who finished in FIRST place.  Not the Yankees.  BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE SOMETHING THE GIANT CAN'T DO. And it was the Giants who won the world series with their incredible pitching staff. WELL YANKEES DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE WITH A BETTER TEAM.  It's not about how many days you were in first place.  It's about being in first place AFTER the 162nd game.  Funny you went there.  It goes against everything you have said about the baseball season in many other threads....THIS IS ABOUT REGULAR SEASON YOUR TEAM WASN'T AS GOOD IN THE REGULAR SEASON. YOUR TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES BUT WASN'T THE BEST TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS. LOL PHILLIES WERE BUT YOU BEAT THEM WHICH HAPPENS TIME TO TIME SUCCESS SOMETIME MEAN YOUR GOING TO GET BEAT.
Babe Ruth 
MANY VOTERS WHO VOTE VIEW MY IDEA THEY EVEN SAID SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO VOTE FOR PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

Judging by the voting results, not very many at all.  In fact, it seems to be so few it is insignificant.  As I said, with most, making the playoffs is a small part of the voting process.  In fact, the only time it really matters is if there are two equally deserving guys and one guys team won the division and the others didn't.  But that is about the only time it has ever come into play.

YET MARKETS IN THE US ARE TAPPED ONLY WAY TO GROW IS GO TOO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Markets in the USA are NOT tapped.  There are still plenty of places to expand in the USA and Canada.  But the league needs to be ready for it.  It was ready in 1993.  But not in 1998.  Growth is not just adding teams.  In fact, you can have growth without expansion.  Growth in terms of popularity in the US.  Growth in terms of bring in the casual fan.  Those things lead to more $$ for owners and players.

PEOPLE FROM THE PAST ARE LOST NO MATTER WHAT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED TO REORDER THE DIVISION PUT HIGH MARKET TEAM WITH THEMSELVES AND LOW WITH THEMSELVE THIS WILL MAKE IT EASYER

Huh?   What?   People from the past?  What are you talking about?  There is no need to change divisions.  Geographic divisions would work just fine with a little economic tweaking.

BASEBALL HAS GROWN UNLIKE YOU DUDE IT GROWN IN THE RIGHT SPOT SEATS BASEBALL SELLING MORE SEATS THEN EVER. THE YES NETWORK IS WORTH OVER 3 BILLION DOLLARS.

Baseball has not grown.  It has regressed.  It is as insignificant as it has ever been.  Their post season "jewels" have been relegated to CABLE!!   That is not growth.  That is retardation.  TV ratings are the lowest they have ever been.  Sure, teams do OK in the towns they are in.  But elsewhere, nobody cares.  The worth of the YES network means nothing regarding this.  It's local.  Not national.

SO YOUR SAYING IF THE ROYAL FOR ONE YEAR GOT IN WITH THE EXTRA WILD CARD IT WON'T HELP THAT TEAM.

It would temporally help the team.  But it wouldn't be good for the game overall.  And it would do nothing for the Royals long term.

LOOK AT THE REGIONAL RATINGS FOR BASEBALL.

Exactly.  That is not good.  Baseball used to be a national thing.  Not a regional thing.  People in New York tune into Yankee games.  But no one else does or even cares.  30 years ago, people across the country actually CARED to watch a late season pennant game between the Pirates and Cardinals, for example.  Not so anymore. 

WELL YOU DON'T SEE DRAGONBLADE ANYMORE REASON FOR THAT IM NOT GOING TO SAY I MUST BE GOOD AT IT.

That doesn't mean you are good at it.  It means you abuse it.  Which is not something most folks would brag about.

VOTTO ALREADY HAS IT YOU MUST NOT WATCH TV LOL.

Haven't watched TV all day.  Haven't been on line much either.  I was working.

THEN IT'S NOT REALLY AN MVP AWARD IT'S THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR DIFFERENCE.

Sure it is.  Players can be very valuable for mediocre teams.  I honestly don't know why you cannot see this....

LIKE I SAID ONLY PLAYERS WHO ARE VALUEABLE TO MAKING THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED

Like I said...  That opens up a slippery slope.  Most post season teams do not arrive there due to the efforts one guy...  It is a team effort.  Votto could have put up even better numbers than he did but if the Reds pitching fell apart, why should he get punished for something that he has no control over?  You have never answered this question.

THE AWARD IS A JOKE WHEN THEY DO ONLY REAL AWARD ANYMORE IN THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP.

Then, again, why are you moaning and groaning about it?

WINNING INDIVIDUAL PLAYOFF GOING INDIVIDUAL VALUEABLE MEAN'S THAT.

I don't even know what that means.  It is your typical gobbltygook.

TO BAD IF YOU DIDN'T HELP YOUR TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFFS.

And yet, if that exact same player puts up the exact same numbers but the closer doesn't blow those 4 saves or those middle inning guys hold on to a few more wins or that guy further down in the line up could have come up with a few more hits....   That player WOULDN'T be eligible.  Under your guideline.  That's ridiculous.

YOU SHOULDN'T GET REWARDED FOR YOUR TEAM LOSING.

My feelings exactly for 2nd place teams.  They lost.  Like the Yankees last year should not have been rewarded for losing.

SO WHAT MIGHT OF NEEDED 35 WIN'S TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS.

So...  In your view...  Suppose a player has the season of all seasons.  No errors in the field.  Drives in 200 runs.  Scores 150.  Hits 75 dingers.  Hits 60 doubles and 30 triples.  No other player in the league even comes close to him.  He plays on a crappy team so instead of winning 60 games, because of his efforts, they win 90.  But still finish 2 games behind the division winner.  And let's say in 3rd place.  You think that kind of season is NOT worthy of the MVP??????

YEP HARD HARD HARD.

You are being inconsistent.  Why are you being so hard on that yet you are OK with half the league making the playoffs?  This makes no sense.

MVP WINNERS ALWAYS HAD GOOD PLAYER BEHIND THEM TO HELP THEM GET THE AWARD.

Not always.

"Which is it?"  BOTH

It can't be both.  It's either a team thing or an individual thing.  If it is a team thing, then the team gets the ward.  Not the individual.

BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE,

No way.  You are saying the Yankees CHOSE to lose.  They CHOSE to give up revenue from extra home games.  No way, chief.  No effing way.

WELL YANKEES DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE WITH A BETTER TEAM

They weren't better this year.  They were so bad they couldn't even win their division.  With They lost to a team that spent a mere 34% of what the Yankees spent.  That's pathetic.  Yankee fans should be embarrassed.

THIS IS ABOUT REGULAR SEASON YOUR TEAM WASN'T AS GOOD IN THE REGULAR SEASON

They were better.  They dominated their opponents with their incredible pitching.  Cliff who?
And, to coin a phrase...  They were better when they HAD to be....

YOUR TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES BUT WASN'T THE BEST TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS. LOL PHILLIES WERE BUT YOU BEAT THEM WHICH HAPPENS TIME TO TIME

If you are the Yankees, it happens more than from "time to time".  It happens a LOT.   hahahaha!!!!!!  All that money and you still can't win!!!!
Babe Ruth  
#91 | 1431 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I depends on how you define success.  Suzuki came to the American Major Leagues because he was already one of the best hitters in Japan and he wanted to prove himself against ALL the best players. HE IS NOT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER THEY BOTH HAVE SIMILAR STYLE HITTERS BOTH HAD A LOT OF HIT'S EACH YEAR.. BUT  And he was a success at it. BOTH ARE GOOD BUT SUZUKI ISN'T THAT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER NOT AT ALL BOTH AVERAGE WELL OVER 150 HITS PLUS WHAT PEOPLE TOLD ME SUZUKI IS RUDE

It is foolhardy to judge a player based on team titles.  A title is a TEAM thing.  Not an individual thing.  Individuals don't win titles.  TEAMS do. HE HAS MORE HIT IN THE PLAYOFFS THEN ANYONE. WORLD SERIES MVP BLAH BLAH BLAH HE HELPED EARN THOSE 5 WORLD SERIES.  For example, put Jeter on the Royals, and he has ZERO rings.  But he would be the EXACT SAME player.  I thought we were comparing an individual player's career.   Not the team he plays for. JORDAN HAS 6 TITLES HE WOULDN'T BE JORDAN IF HE DIDN'T HAVE 6 TITLES AND THAT'S AN TEAM THING ALSO PLUS JORDAN WOULD JUST KILL. FACE OVER ALL DEREK JETER OVERALL CAREER JUST DESTROYS  SUZUKI CAREER.

Jeter may indeed sell more Jersey's and tees. THEN ANY OTHER BASEBALL PLAYER EVEN SUZUKI NO ONE IN THE US EVEN CARES ABOUT SUZUKI NOOOOOOOOO ONE (Not sure why you went there as you seem to think that kind of success is meaningless)  But, the enterage that surrounds Suzuki dwarfs Jeter's to this day. WHY IS THAT HE NEED ONE HE FROM JAPAN. DEREK JETER DOESN'T NEED ONE BUT WHO HE HANGS OUT DOESN'T COMPARE. TIGER WOODS, MICHAEL JORDAN ON AND ON WHO ARE BIGGER THEN THOSE ATHLETES NOOOOOO ONE. JAY Z BLAH BLAH BLAH WHO BIGGER THEN JAY Z NO ONE, EMINEM WHO BIGGER THEN THAT NO ONE. JESSICA ALBE HE DATES WHO HOTTER THEN HER NO ONE. BLAH BLAH BLAH.  NOOOOOOOO ONE. Baseball is FAR bigger in Japan than it is here. I DON'T THINK SO IT HAS LESS PEOPLE  And that gap is widening every day. WHY THEY NEED TO PLACE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM. THE YANKEES ARE HUGE IN JAPAN OVER 12 MILLION VIEWERS I WONDER HOW YOUR GIANT DONE SINCE THEY STUNK IN RATING IN THE STATS.    YANKEES NEED TO PUT A TEAM OVER IN JAPAN IN ONE OF THE LEAGUES THEY WOULD BE HUGE IN JAPAN.   TWO TEAM'S ARE HUGE WORLD WIDE IN THE UNITED STATES THE LA LAKERS AND NEW YORK YANKEES EACH CITY HAS AN ASIAN MARKET AND HUGE MEDIA PRESENTS. THEY ARE HUGH IN JAPAN MORE THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE UNITED STATES FACT. YOU GIANT AND SORRY WASHINGTON DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE LOOK AT THE REAL NUMBERS.

My decision to NOT play for the Yankees (If I had the skills and the choice, which I don't) has nothing to do with "handling" the New York media.  It is a moral judgment.  Not a selfish one.  I wouldn't want to be associated with the team that is well known as the example team of what is WRONG with Major League baseball today.  Any player with the skills to be in the Majors can handle New York. YET THE MAJORS ARE SELLING MORE TICKETS THEN EVER. GUESS WHAT YANKEES SOLD MORE TICKETS THEN ANY TEAM BAD FOR BASEBALL. YANKEE GEAR ON ALMOST EVERY CELEB I SEE. YANKEE ARE A BRAND IN IT'S OWN NO OTHER TEAM CAN REALLY SAY THAT. IN BASEBALL 27 WORLD TITLE'S WORTH OVER 3 BILLION BUCKS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL NETWORK IN BASEBALL BLAH BLAH BLAH. POPE'S WANNA BE AT YANKEE STADIUM BLAH BLAH BLAH. THEY HAD THE BEST RATINGS IN YEAR UNLIKE YOURS ONE OF THE WORST. THE GIANT RANGER WORLD SERIES DIDN'T DRAW NOTHING. THE PROBLEM IS GET RID OF THE CRAPPY TEAMS LIKE ROYAL THEY ARE JUNK. THEY TAKE UP SPACE OR MOVE THEM ELSE WERE. WHAT OTHER TEAM ARE WORTH AS MUCH IN THE UNITED STATES THE COWBOY'S THAT IS IT COWBOY'S AND THEY ARE PARTNERS.

You also have a lot to learn about geography.  The MLB markets that get the most rain from April through October?   The two Florida markets and then, that's right...  New York City.  West coast rain comes almost exclusively in the winter.  And Seattle is a very nice town. I BEEN TO IT A LOT AND IT HAS RAIN RAIN RAIN LIKE VERY DAY THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS.. You should visit.
HE IS NOT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER

No...  He's a TON better than Jeter...

PLUS WHAT PEOPLE TOLD ME SUZUKI IS RUDE

Who gives a crap?  People say Bonds was a jerk.  But that doesn't mean he wasn't the greatest hitter over the last 40 years....

HE HAS MORE HIT IN THE PLAYOFFS THEN ANYONE.

Only because he plays for the most expensive lineup in the Majors and played at a time when there were more playoff games than ever.  You need to understand the WHY for these things.  Otherwise, things get presented in the wrong light.

JORDAN HAS 6 TITLES

Don't go there.  Basketball is different.  You can just dish the ball to Jordan anytime you want.  You can't put Bonds at the plate anytime you wish.  He HAS to stay in his lineup spot.  Basketball is just different, OK.  One guy CAN carry a team in that sport.

FACE OVER ALL DEREK JETER OVERALL CAREER JUST DESTROYS  SUZUKI CAREER.

Actually, it doesn't.  Suzuki is the better hitter and the better fielder.  And he's more durable.  Look at all the AB's he amassed!  Plus, and I know it is unfair to count it, if you include his NPB numbers, he has over 4000 hits already.  If he started in the US from day one, he would probably have eclipsed Rose's hit total already.

WHY IS THAT HE NEED ONE HE FROM JAPAN.

He didn't NEED one.  It just shows the interest in Japan.  You don't get that for any other player because baseball just isn't as popular in the USA anymore.

BUT WHO HE HANGS OUT DOESN'T COMPARE.

Nobody cares who he hangs out with. 
BTW...  Tiger Woods... Know adulturer.  Michael Jordan.  Known degenerate gambler.   Nice group.

I DON'T THINK SO IT HAS LESS PEOPLE

That only makes it's massive popularity over the USA even more profound.

WHY THEY NEED TO PLACE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM.

They don't need that.  They have their own league. And wouldn't even allow it if MLB tried.

THE YANKEES ARE HUGE IN JAPAN

The most popular team in Japan is...  And I have told you this before...  The Giants!

I WONDER HOW YOUR GIANT DONE SINCE THEY STUNK IN RATING IN THE STATS.

The Bay Area had a local share of around 40 for the World Series this year.  That's pretty darn good.

YET THE MAJORS ARE SELLING MORE TICKETS THEN EVER.

And the national TV ratings are lower than ever.  That is more telling for how people nationally feel about baseball.  No one is arguing they are doing OK locally.  That's not the problem.

GUESS WHAT YANKEES SOLD MORE TICKETS THEN ANY TEAM BAD FOR BASEBALL

That's not why they are bad for baseball.

POPE'S WANNA BE AT YANKEE STADIUM

The Pope wanted to be at Candlestick park when he came out west while the Giants were still in it.  Big deal.

THE GIANT RANGER WORLD SERIES DIDN'T DRAW NOTHING.

Neither did the Yankees vs anyone.  There were at least 4 instances where the Yankees in the WS provided the lowest ratings to date.  The lack of interest isn't because of who is playing.  It's because people don't care about baseball on a national level.   Get yer head of of your a...   The clouds.

THE PROBLEM IS GET RID OF THE CRAPPY TEAMS LIKE ROYAL

That will only make MLB even LESS popular.  If you are trying to create in interest around the country, you don't deprive regions of teams.  That's foolish.  Besides, maybe the Royals wouldn't be crappy if there were a salary cap with media revenue sharing.  Perhaps they would have incentive to try and compete then?   That WOULD be good for the game.

I BEEN TO IT A LOT AND IT HAS RAIN RAIN RAIN LIKE VERY DAY THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS.

Yeah.  That's like complaining about the snow on the ground in New York because you visit in January.  Get real.
Babe Ruth  
#92 | 1431 days ago

ML31 wrote:
HE IS NOT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER

No...  He's a TON better than Jeter...

PLUS WHAT PEOPLE TOLD ME SUZUKI IS RUDE

Who gives a crap?  People say Bonds was a jerk.  But that doesn't mean he wasn't the greatest hitter over the last 40 years....

HE HAS MORE HIT IN THE PLAYOFFS THEN ANYONE.

Only because he plays for the most expensive lineup in the Majors and played at a time when there were more playoff games than ever.  You need to understand the WHY for these things.  Otherwise, things get presented in the wrong light.

JORDAN HAS 6 TITLES

Don't go there.  Basketball is different.  You can just dish the ball to Jordan anytime you want.  You can't put Bonds at the plate anytime you wish.  He HAS to stay in his lineup spot.  Basketball is just different, OK.  One guy CAN carry a team in that sport.

FACE OVER ALL DEREK JETER OVERALL CAREER JUST DESTROYS  SUZUKI CAREER.

Actually, it doesn't.  Suzuki is the better hitter and the better fielder.  And he's more durable.  Look at all the AB's he amassed!  Plus, and I know it is unfair to count it, if you include his NPB numbers, he has over 4000 hits already.  If he started in the US from day one, he would probably have eclipsed Rose's hit total already.

WHY IS THAT HE NEED ONE HE FROM JAPAN.

He didn't NEED one.  It just shows the interest in Japan.  You don't get that for any other player because baseball just isn't as popular in the USA anymore.

BUT WHO HE HANGS OUT DOESN'T COMPARE.

Nobody cares who he hangs out with. 
BTW...  Tiger Woods... Know adulturer.  Michael Jordan.  Known degenerate gambler.   Nice group.

I DON'T THINK SO IT HAS LESS PEOPLE

That only makes it's massive popularity over the USA even more profound.

WHY THEY NEED TO PLACE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM.

They don't need that.  They have their own league. And wouldn't even allow it if MLB tried.

THE YANKEES ARE HUGE IN JAPAN

The most popular team in Japan is...  And I have told you this before...  The Giants!

I WONDER HOW YOUR GIANT DONE SINCE THEY STUNK IN RATING IN THE STATS.

The Bay Area had a local share of around 40 for the World Series this year.  That's pretty darn good.

YET THE MAJORS ARE SELLING MORE TICKETS THEN EVER.

And the national TV ratings are lower than ever.  That is more telling for how people nationally feel about baseball.  No one is arguing they are doing OK locally.  That's not the problem.

GUESS WHAT YANKEES SOLD MORE TICKETS THEN ANY TEAM BAD FOR BASEBALL

That's not why they are bad for baseball.

POPE'S WANNA BE AT YANKEE STADIUM

The Pope wanted to be at Candlestick park when he came out west while the Giants were still in it.  Big deal.

THE GIANT RANGER WORLD SERIES DIDN'T DRAW NOTHING.

Neither did the Yankees vs anyone.  There were at least 4 instances where the Yankees in the WS provided the lowest ratings to date.  The lack of interest isn't because of who is playing.  It's because people don't care about baseball on a national level.   Get yer head of of your a...   The clouds.

THE PROBLEM IS GET RID OF THE CRAPPY TEAMS LIKE ROYAL

That will only make MLB even LESS popular.  If you are trying to create in interest around the country, you don't deprive regions of teams.  That's foolish.  Besides, maybe the Royals wouldn't be crappy if there were a salary cap with media revenue sharing.  Perhaps they would have incentive to try and compete then?   That WOULD be good for the game.

I BEEN TO IT A LOT AND IT HAS RAIN RAIN RAIN LIKE VERY DAY THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS.

Yeah.  That's like complaining about the snow on the ground in New York because you visit in January.  Get real.
HE IS NOT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER

No...  He's a TON better than Jeter... NOT YOUR JUST AN PHONY HATER YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. DEREK

 
OBP    SLG    OPS     
DEREK JETER FIRST ROW, SUZUKI SECOND Row
 
0.385    0.453    0.838      
   0.331    0.376    .806     
 The most important numbers as you can see Derek Jeter better in if you have him hit in the Mariners ball park he would have more hits. Easy Chart OTHER NUMBERS ARE CLOSE ALSO THEY ARE MORE EVEN THEN YOU THINK. DEREK GETS ON BASE AT A BETTER RATE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT OF THEM ALL. HE HAS MORE POWER AND EVERYTHING WHICH IS A GOOD THING FOR THE YANKEES. HE CLUTCH IN THE POST SEASON MOST IMPORANT STAT. MARINERS DONE NOTHING IN THE POST SEASON.

PLUS WHAT PEOPLE TOLD ME SUZUKI IS RUDE

Who gives a crap?  People say Bonds was a jerk.  But that doesn't mean he wasn't the greatest hitter over the last 40 years.... BOND'S IS A COMPLETE CHEATING LOSER HIS NAME DOESN'T BELONG WITH ANYONE

HE HAS MORE HIT IN THE PLAYOFFS THEN ANYONE.

Only because he plays for the most expensive lineup in the Majors and played at a time when there were more playoff games than ever. CRY CRY CRY  You need to understand the WHY for these things.  MARINERS HAD GOOD TEAM'S IN THE PAST THEY HAD A-ROD. Otherwise, things get presented in the wrong light.

JORDAN HAS 6 TITLES

Don't go there.  Basketball is different.  You can just dish the ball to Jordan anytime you want.  You can't put Bonds at the plate anytime you wish.  DON'T PUT BOND'S WITH JORDAN PLEASE HE NOT WORTHY. He HAS to stay in his lineup spot.  Basketball is just different, OK.  One guy CAN carry a team in that sport.

FACE OVER ALL DEREK JETER OVERALL CAREER JUST DESTROYS  SUZUKI CAREER.

Actually, it doesn't.  Suzuki is the better hitter and the better fielder.  And he's more durable. HOW DEREK JETER NEVER MISSES GAMES. BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. GUESS NOT YOU CAN HAVE YOUR PITCHING Look at all the AB's he amassed!  Plus, and I know it is unfair to count it, if you include his NPB numbers, he has over 4000 hits already.NPB NUMBER MINOR LEAGUE YOU CAN'T COUNT THEM  If he started in the US from day one, he would probably have eclipsed Rose's hit total already.MAYBE MAYBE NOT BUT HE WON'T AND HAS NOT. SO YOU ADD JETERS HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS MINOR LEAGUE NUMBERS ALL OF THAT BET ITS ABOUT 4000.

WHY IS THAT HE NEED ONE HE FROM JAPAN.

He didn't NEED one.  It just shows the interest in Japan.  You don't get that for any other player because baseball just isn't as popular in the USA anymore. IF IT SO GOOOD WHY DOES EVERY PLAYER WANNA COME TO THE UNITED STATES. YOU KNOW WHAT PLAYERS GO

BUT WHO HE HANGS OUT DOESN'T COMPARE.

Nobody cares who he hangs out with.
BTW...  Tiger Woods... Know adulturer.  Michael Jordan.  Known degenerate gambler.   Nice group. HALLLLL OF FAME GROUP BOND'S HANGS WITH THEM ALSO BUT HE DOESN'T NEED HIS NAME WITH THEM BECAUSE HE IS A CHEATER OF HIS OWN SPORT. HE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS JORDAN OR WOODS YEAH THEY DONE BAD STUFF AWAY FROM THE SPORT BUT NOT TOO THE SPORT THEY PLAY FACT THEY MADE THE SPORTS THEY PLAY HUGE ALL OVER THE WORLD JORDAN FOR SURE.

I DON'T THINK SO IT HAS LESS PEOPLE

That only makes it's massive popularity over the USA even more profound. LOL BASEBALL IS STILL BIG IN NEW YORK WITH 2 TEAM'S, BOSTON, CHICAGO 2 TEAM'S THE ONLY PLACES THAT MAKE ANY KIND OF MONEY FOR BASEBALL ALL THAT MATTERS. TEAM'S LIKE THE GIANT, PIRATES AND OTHER TEAM'S DON'T MAKE A DIME FOR BASEBALL FOR SURE NOT LIKE THE YANKEES THEY DO 4 TIME MORE THEN BOTH OF YOU.

WHY THEY NEED TO PLACE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM.

They don't need that.  They have their own league. And wouldn't even allow it if MLB tried. FREE INTERPRISE THEY COULD DO IT IF THEY WANTED TO PLACE A TEAM IN JAPAN AND I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN IT WILL HAPPEN SOME DAY WATCH IM 100% RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

THE YANKEES ARE HUGE IN JAPAN

The most popular team in Japan is...  And I have told you this before...  The Giants! NOT LOOK IT UP IT BETWEEN BOSTON AND NEW YORK. GIANTS NO WAY YOU JUST WANNA MAKE YOUR JUNK PILE LOOK IMPORTANT IT IS NOT IMPORTANT.  PLLLLLLLLLLEEASSSSSSE DON'T PUT YOU JUNK PILE WITH THE YANKEES AGAIN. THE TWO MOST POPULAR TEAM'S IN THE WORLD FROM THE UNITED STATES REPEAT THE NEW YORK YANKEES AND LA LAKERS LOOK IT UP YO IT TRUE SO HOW CAN THE JUNK PILE BE AS POPULAR AS THE YANKEES IN ANYTHING.

WORLD WIDE YANKEES ARE MORE POPULAR WITH THE LA LAKERS THEN ANY OTHER AMERICAN TEAM'S IN US SPORTS FACT YOU HATE THAT BUT IT IS TRUE GIANT NOT A ZIT ON THE BEHINDS.

I WONDER HOW YOUR GIANT DONE SINCE THEY STUNK IN RATING IN THE STATS. NATIONALLY THEY WERE HORRIBLE

The Bay Area had a local share of around 40 for the World Series this year.  That's pretty darn good. NO AS GOOD AS THE YANKEES OVERALL

YET THE MAJORS ARE SELLING MORE TICKETS THEN EVER.

And the national TV ratings are lower than ever.  SO WHAT TRUE FAN'S WATCH IT. That is more telling for how people nationally feel about baseball.  No one is arguing they are doing OK locally.  That's not the problem.

GUESS WHAT YANKEES SOLD MORE TICKETS THEN ANY TEAM BAD FOR BASEBALL

That's not why they are bad for baseball.

POPE'S WANNA BE AT YANKEE STADIUM

The Pope wanted to be at Candlestick park when he came out west while the Giants were still in it.  Big deal.

THE GIANT RANGER WORLD SERIES DIDN'T DRAW NOTHING.

Neither did the Yankees vs anyone.  There were at least 4 instances where the Yankees in the WS provided the lowest ratings to date.  The lack of interest isn't because of who is playing. WRONG THE RATING SHOW MORE INTEREST IN THE YANKEES THEN YOU THINK. FACT LOOK AT YOUR RATING BOMBED AND LOOK AT THE YANKEES RATINGS A BIGGER FAN BASE FOR THE YANKEES ACCROSS THE COUNTRY THAT IS FOR SURE.   It's because people don't care about baseball on a national level.   Get yer head of of your a...   The clouds. PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE YANKEES THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE JUNK PILE THAT ABOUT IT. LOOOK AT THE RATING NEW YORK PHILLIE WAS FAR BETTER AND A BETTER SERIES TO WATCH AT THAT. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RANGER OR THE GIANT THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE CLUBS.

THE PROBLEM IS GET RID OF THE CRAPPY TEAMS LIKE ROYAL

That will only make MLB even LESS popular.  If you are trying to create in interest around the country, you don't deprive regions of teams.  That's foolish.  LOOK MAN SOME AREAS JUST DON'T SELL STRAIGHT UP LOOK AFTER TWO WORLD SERIES MARLINES AREN'T CRAP. Besides, maybe the Royals wouldn't be crappy if there were a salary cap with media revenue sharing.  Perhaps they would have incentive to try and compete then?   That WOULD be good for the game.

I BEEN TO IT A LOT AND IT HAS RAIN RAIN RAIN LIKE VERY DAY THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS.

Yeah.  That's like complaining about the snow on the ground in New York because you visit in January.  Get real.
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#93 | 1431 days ago

ML31 wrote:
MANY VOTERS WHO VOTE VIEW MY IDEA THEY EVEN SAID SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO VOTE FOR PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

Judging by the voting results, not very many at all.  In fact, it seems to be so few it is insignificant.  As I said, with most, making the playoffs is a small part of the voting process.  In fact, the only time it really matters is if there are two equally deserving guys and one guys team won the division and the others didn't.  But that is about the only time it has ever come into play.

YET MARKETS IN THE US ARE TAPPED ONLY WAY TO GROW IS GO TOO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Markets in the USA are NOT tapped.  There are still plenty of places to expand in the USA and Canada.  But the league needs to be ready for it.  It was ready in 1993.  But not in 1998.  Growth is not just adding teams.  In fact, you can have growth without expansion.  Growth in terms of popularity in the US.  Growth in terms of bring in the casual fan.  Those things lead to more $$ for owners and players.

PEOPLE FROM THE PAST ARE LOST NO MATTER WHAT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED TO REORDER THE DIVISION PUT HIGH MARKET TEAM WITH THEMSELVES AND LOW WITH THEMSELVE THIS WILL MAKE IT EASYER

Huh?   What?   People from the past?  What are you talking about?  There is no need to change divisions.  Geographic divisions would work just fine with a little economic tweaking.

BASEBALL HAS GROWN UNLIKE YOU DUDE IT GROWN IN THE RIGHT SPOT SEATS BASEBALL SELLING MORE SEATS THEN EVER. THE YES NETWORK IS WORTH OVER 3 BILLION DOLLARS.

Baseball has not grown.  It has regressed.  It is as insignificant as it has ever been.  Their post season "jewels" have been relegated to CABLE!!   That is not growth.  That is retardation.  TV ratings are the lowest they have ever been.  Sure, teams do OK in the towns they are in.  But elsewhere, nobody cares.  The worth of the YES network means nothing regarding this.  It's local.  Not national.

SO YOUR SAYING IF THE ROYAL FOR ONE YEAR GOT IN WITH THE EXTRA WILD CARD IT WON'T HELP THAT TEAM.

It would temporally help the team.  But it wouldn't be good for the game overall.  And it would do nothing for the Royals long term.

LOOK AT THE REGIONAL RATINGS FOR BASEBALL.

Exactly.  That is not good.  Baseball used to be a national thing.  Not a regional thing.  People in New York tune into Yankee games.  But no one else does or even cares.  30 years ago, people across the country actually CARED to watch a late season pennant game between the Pirates and Cardinals, for example.  Not so anymore. 

WELL YOU DON'T SEE DRAGONBLADE ANYMORE REASON FOR THAT IM NOT GOING TO SAY I MUST BE GOOD AT IT.

That doesn't mean you are good at it.  It means you abuse it.  Which is not something most folks would brag about.

VOTTO ALREADY HAS IT YOU MUST NOT WATCH TV LOL.

Haven't watched TV all day.  Haven't been on line much either.  I was working.

THEN IT'S NOT REALLY AN MVP AWARD IT'S THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR DIFFERENCE.

Sure it is.  Players can be very valuable for mediocre teams.  I honestly don't know why you cannot see this....

LIKE I SAID ONLY PLAYERS WHO ARE VALUEABLE TO MAKING THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED

Like I said...  That opens up a slippery slope.  Most post season teams do not arrive there due to the efforts one guy...  It is a team effort.  Votto could have put up even better numbers than he did but if the Reds pitching fell apart, why should he get punished for something that he has no control over?  You have never answered this question.

THE AWARD IS A JOKE WHEN THEY DO ONLY REAL AWARD ANYMORE IN THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP.

Then, again, why are you moaning and groaning about it?

WINNING INDIVIDUAL PLAYOFF GOING INDIVIDUAL VALUEABLE MEAN'S THAT.

I don't even know what that means.  It is your typical gobbltygook.

TO BAD IF YOU DIDN'T HELP YOUR TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFFS.

And yet, if that exact same player puts up the exact same numbers but the closer doesn't blow those 4 saves or those middle inning guys hold on to a few more wins or that guy further down in the line up could have come up with a few more hits....   That player WOULDN'T be eligible.  Under your guideline.  That's ridiculous.

YOU SHOULDN'T GET REWARDED FOR YOUR TEAM LOSING.

My feelings exactly for 2nd place teams.  They lost.  Like the Yankees last year should not have been rewarded for losing.

SO WHAT MIGHT OF NEEDED 35 WIN'S TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS.

So...  In your view...  Suppose a player has the season of all seasons.  No errors in the field.  Drives in 200 runs.  Scores 150.  Hits 75 dingers.  Hits 60 doubles and 30 triples.  No other player in the league even comes close to him.  He plays on a crappy team so instead of winning 60 games, because of his efforts, they win 90.  But still finish 2 games behind the division winner.  And let's say in 3rd place.  You think that kind of season is NOT worthy of the MVP??????

YEP HARD HARD HARD.

You are being inconsistent.  Why are you being so hard on that yet you are OK with half the league making the playoffs?  This makes no sense.

MVP WINNERS ALWAYS HAD GOOD PLAYER BEHIND THEM TO HELP THEM GET THE AWARD.

Not always.

"Which is it?"  BOTH

It can't be both.  It's either a team thing or an individual thing.  If it is a team thing, then the team gets the ward.  Not the individual.

BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE,

No way.  You are saying the Yankees CHOSE to lose.  They CHOSE to give up revenue from extra home games.  No way, chief.  No effing way.

WELL YANKEES DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE WITH A BETTER TEAM

They weren't better this year.  They were so bad they couldn't even win their division.  With They lost to a team that spent a mere 34% of what the Yankees spent.  That's pathetic.  Yankee fans should be embarrassed.

THIS IS ABOUT REGULAR SEASON YOUR TEAM WASN'T AS GOOD IN THE REGULAR SEASON

They were better.  They dominated their opponents with their incredible pitching.  Cliff who?
And, to coin a phrase...  They were better when they HAD to be....

YOUR TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES BUT WASN'T THE BEST TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS. LOL PHILLIES WERE BUT YOU BEAT THEM WHICH HAPPENS TIME TO TIME

If you are the Yankees, it happens more than from "time to time".  It happens a LOT.   hahahaha!!!!!!  All that money and you still can't win!!!!
MANY VOTERS WHO VOTE VIEW MY IDEA THEY EVEN SAID SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO VOTE FOR PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

Judging by the voting results, not very many at all.  In fact, it seems to be so few it is insignificant.  As I said, with most, making the playoffs is a small part of the voting process.  In fact, the only time it really matters is if there are two equally deserving guys and one guys team won the division and the others didn't.  But that is about the only time it has ever come into play. YOU NEVER HEAR COMANTARY FROM VOTERS THEY SAY THAT THEY ONLY CHOOSE PLAYERS FROM WINNING TEAM AS THE FIRST PLACE VOTE BUT WHO CARES THE AWARDS ARE BULL ANYWAYS ANYMORE. LIKE I SAID ONLY ONE REAL AWARD.

YET MARKETS IN THE US ARE TAPPED ONLY WAY TO GROW IS GO TOO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Markets in the USA are NOT tapped.  There are still plenty of places to expand in the USA and Canada.  But the league needs to be ready for it.  It was ready in 1993.  But not in 1998.  Growth is not just adding teams. MORE TEAMS YOU NEED MORE PLAYOFF SPOTS MORE INTEREST. In fact, you can have growth without expansion.  Growth in terms of popularity in the US.  Growth in terms of bring in the casual fan.  Those things lead to more $$ for owners and players.

PEOPLE FROM THE PAST ARE LOST NO MATTER WHAT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED TO REORDER THE DIVISION PUT HIGH MARKET TEAM WITH THEMSELVES AND LOW WITH THEMSELVE THIS WILL MAKE IT EASYER

Huh?   What?   People from the past?  What are you talking about?  PEOPLE WHO WATCH LONG AGO ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE AND WON'T BE. There is no need to change divisions. I DISAGREE IF YOU PUT TWO POWER HOUSES WITH THE YANKEES THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER. YOU PUT LOWER END TEAM'S TOGETHER THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM Geographic divisions would work just fine with a little economic tweaking. WRONG BASEBALL NEEDS NO CAP THAT IS NOT IT. I DON'T LIKE THE CAP FOR ANY SPORT.

BASEBALL HAS GROWN UNLIKE YOU DUDE IT GROWN IN THE RIGHT SPOT SEATS BASEBALL SELLING MORE SEATS THEN EVER. THE YES NETWORK IS WORTH OVER 3 BILLION DOLLARS.

Baseball has not grown.  It has regressed.  It is as insignificant as it has ever been.  Their post season "jewels" have been relegated to CABLE!!   That is not growth.  That is retardation.  TV ratings are the lowest they have ever been.  Sure, teams do OK in the towns they are in.  But elsewhere, nobody cares.  The worth of the YES network means nothing regarding this.  It's local.  Not national. I CAN GET YES NETWORK IN WASHINGTON WITH A DISH NOTHING IS TRULY LOCAL YOU CAN GET WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT.

SO YOUR SAYING IF THE ROYAL FOR ONE YEAR GOT IN WITH THE EXTRA WILD CARD IT WON'T HELP THAT TEAM.

It would temporally help the team.  But it wouldn't be good for the game overall.  And it would do nothing for the Royals long term.

LOOK AT THE REGIONAL RATINGS FOR BASEBALL.

Exactly.  That is not good.  Baseball used to be a national thing.  Not a regional thing.  People in New York tune into Yankee games.  But no one else does or even cares.  30 years ago, people across the country actually CARED to watch a late season pennant game between the Pirates and Cardinals, for example.  Not so anymore. YOU HAD ONLY BASEBALL ON A LOT OF TIME TODAY YOU HAVE 500 CHANNELS TODAY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WATCH BASEBALL ANYMORE STRAIGHT UP IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IT IS TO MOST PEOPLE A BORING SLOW SPORT THAT IS THE PROBLEM NOT THE YANKEES OR OTHER TEAM NOT EVEN THE JUNK PILE MOVING FROM NEW YORK TO SAN FRAN

WELL YOU DON'T SEE DRAGONBLADE ANYMORE REASON FOR THAT IM NOT GOING TO SAY I MUST BE GOOD AT IT.

That doesn't mean you are good at it.  It means you abuse it.  Which is not something most folks would brag about. PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF DRAGON THAT IS ALL.

VOTTO ALREADY HAS IT YOU MUST NOT WATCH TV LOL.

Haven't watched TV all day.  Haven't been on line much either.  I was working. HE WON IT AT 2 PM MY TIME WHICH IS MORNING YOUR TIME.

THEN IT'S NOT REALLY AN MVP AWARD IT'S THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR DIFFERENCE.

Sure it is.  Players can be very valuable for mediocre teams. YOU CAN BUT YOU DON'T EARN THE AWARD IN MY VIEW CHANGE THE NAME OF THE AWARD TO PLAYER OF THE YEAR.  I honestly don't know why you cannot see this.... I ONLY SEE A PLAYER SINCE IT IS VALUABLE GETTING IT ON A PLAYOFF TEAM TAKE THE TERM VALUABLE OUT OF IT THEN.    VALUEABLE MEAN'S TO ME A PERSON WHO HAS VALUE TO A WINNING SEASON NOT LOSING

LIKE I SAID ONLY PLAYERS WHO ARE VALUEABLE TO MAKING THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED

Like I said...  That opens up a slippery slope.  Most post season teams do not arrive there due to the efforts one guy...  It is a team effort.  Votto could have put up even better numbers than he did but if the Reds pitching fell apart, why should he get punished for something that he has no control over?  YEP HE SHOULD NOT GET IT STRAIGHT UP GIVE IT TO THE NEXT GUY WHO IS IN THE PLAYOFFS ON THE LIST HIS TEAM DIDN'T HELP HIM EARN THE AWARD FOR HIM. TO BAD IF HIS TEAM SUCKS I DON'T CARE HE NOT VALUABLE IN MY VIEW ON A LOSSING TEAM IF YOUR TEAM STINKS IT STINKS SHOULDN'T BE REWARDED BECAUSE YOU HELP YOUR LOSING TEAM WIN A FEW EXTRA GAMES IF IT DIDN'T MATTER ANYWAYS. You have never answered this question.

THE AWARD IS A JOKE WHEN THEY DO ONLY REAL AWARD ANYMORE IN THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP.

Then, again, why are you moaning and groaning about it? BECAUSE THEY NEED TO MAKE AWARD REAL AGAIN AN STOP MAKING THEM BS.



I

TO BAD IF YOU DIDN'T HELP YOUR TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFFS.

And yet, if that exact same player puts up the exact same numbers but the closer doesn't blow those 4 saves or those middle inning guys hold on to a few more wins or that guy further down in the line up could have come up with a few more hits....   That player WOULDN'T be eligible.  Under your guideline.  That's ridiculous. IF HIS TEAM HELP HIM IN THE PLAYOFFS HE ELIGIBLE IF HE ISN'T IN THE PLAYOFF HE SHOULDN'T GET AN AWARD FOR MEANING OF THE AWARD WITH THE TERM VALUABLE IN IT. GET RID OF VALUABLE AND IT IS ALL GOOD.

YOU SHOULDN'T GET REWARDED FOR YOUR TEAM LOSING.

My feelings exactly for 2nd place teams.  They lost. THEY HAVE AN WILD CARD OLD MAN ITS THE NEW AGE GET USE TO IT OLD MAN ALL SPORTS HAVE SOME KIND OF WILD CARD THEY EARNED IT THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS GET OVER IT OLD MAN.  Like the Yankees last year should not have been rewarded for losing. YOU TEAM WASN'T FIRST PLACE IN YOUR LEAGUE. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE GIANTS IN THE DIVISION

SO WHAT MIGHT OF NEEDED 35 WIN'S TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS.

So...  In your view...  Suppose a player has the season of all seasons.  No errors in the field.  Drives in 200 runs.  Scores 150.  Hits 75 dingers.  Hits 60 doubles and 30 triples.  No other player in the league even comes close to him.  He plays on a crappy team so instead of winning 60 games, because of his efforts, they win 90.  But still finish 2 games behind the division winner.  And let's say in 3rd place.  You think that kind of season is NOT worthy of the MVP?????? IF HE NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS NOPE THOSE NUMBERS MEAN NOTHING AT ALL JUST LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE WITH LIGHTS ON IT YOU KNOW THE PRESENTS ARE WHAT IMPORTANT WHICH IS THE POST SEASON. NUMBERS CAN LOOK FLASHY ALL THEY WANT IF THEY DON'T HELP EARN A PLAYOFF SPOT SO BE IT YOU SHOULDN'T GET THE AWARD.

YEP HARD HARD HARD.

You are being inconsistent.  Why are you being so hard on that yet you are OK with half the league making the playoffs?  This makes no sense. YEP BRING THEM ALL IN IT SELL MORE SEATS LETS MORE PEOPLE WATCH AN WINNING TEAM BLAH BLAH BLAH.

MVP WINNERS ALWAYS HAD GOOD PLAYER BEHIND THEM TO HELP THEM GET THE AWARD.

Not

"Which is it?"  BOTH

It can't be both.  It's either a team thing or an individual thing.  If it is a team thing, then the team gets the ward.  Not the individual. WELL IT IS A TEAM THING THEY HELP HIM GET THE AWARD THE DEFENDERS HELP THE PLAYER DEFEND BETTER.

BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE,

No way.  You are saying the Yankees CHOSE to lose.  They CHOSE to give up revenue from extra home games.  No way, chief.  No effing way. ALOT OF THE MAIN LINEUP WAS HURT SO THEY HAD TO REST PLAYER IN KEY SITUATION THAT WHY THEY LOST. THE KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO THEY HAD TO REST GUYS

WELL YANKEES DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE WITH A BETTER TEAM

They weren't better this year.  They were so bad they couldn't even win their division. OLD MAN THEY WON THE WILD CARD AND THE BEAT A DIVISION WINNER. IT IS A NEW AGE OLD MAN GET OVER IT THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND IT IS NO BIG DEAL AT ALL.  With They lost to a team that spent a mere 34% of what the Yankees spent.  That's pathetic.  Yankee fans should be embarrassed. GIANT FAN'S SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED PATHETIC IT TOOK OVER 50 YEARS TO WIN ANYTHING AT ALL. YOU WASTED LIFE TIME MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOUR TEAM DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE PATHETIC. THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE GROUP

THIS IS ABOUT REGULAR SEASON YOUR TEAM WASN'T AS GOOD IN THE REGULAR SEASON

They were better.  They dominated their opponents with their incredible pitching.  Cliff who? YANKEES BEAT LEE MANY TIMES IN THE PAST LOL
And, to coin a phrase...  They were better when they HAD to be....SO WHAT YANKEES WON WORLD SERIES PLENTY OF TIMES SO IF SOME TEAM GET IT SO WHAT TRY IT NEXT YEAR. THEY WILL BE IN THE PLAYOFFS NEXT YEAR DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE GIANTS WILL BE.

YOUR TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES BUT WASN'T THE BEST TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS. LOL PHILLIES WERE BUT YOU BEAT THEM WHICH HAPPENS TIME TO TIME

If you are the Yankees, it happens more than from "time to time".  It happens a LOT.   hahahaha!!!!!!  All that money and you still can't win!!!! WHAT YANKEES HAVE MORE WORLD SERIES THEY EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL. HAHAHA AND IT DOESN'T TAKE THEM 50+ YEARS TO DO SO LIKE THE JUNK PILE.
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#94 | 1431 days ago

ML31 wrote:
HE IS NOT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER

No...  He's a TON better than Jeter...

PLUS WHAT PEOPLE TOLD ME SUZUKI IS RUDE

Who gives a crap?  People say Bonds was a jerk.  But that doesn't mean he wasn't the greatest hitter over the last 40 years....

HE HAS MORE HIT IN THE PLAYOFFS THEN ANYONE.

Only because he plays for the most expensive lineup in the Majors and played at a time when there were more playoff games than ever.  You need to understand the WHY for these things.  Otherwise, things get presented in the wrong light.

JORDAN HAS 6 TITLES

Don't go there.  Basketball is different.  You can just dish the ball to Jordan anytime you want.  You can't put Bonds at the plate anytime you wish.  He HAS to stay in his lineup spot.  Basketball is just different, OK.  One guy CAN carry a team in that sport.

FACE OVER ALL DEREK JETER OVERALL CAREER JUST DESTROYS  SUZUKI CAREER.

Actually, it doesn't.  Suzuki is the better hitter and the better fielder.  And he's more durable.  Look at all the AB's he amassed!  Plus, and I know it is unfair to count it, if you include his NPB numbers, he has over 4000 hits already.  If he started in the US from day one, he would probably have eclipsed Rose's hit total already.

WHY IS THAT HE NEED ONE HE FROM JAPAN.

He didn't NEED one.  It just shows the interest in Japan.  You don't get that for any other player because baseball just isn't as popular in the USA anymore.

BUT WHO HE HANGS OUT DOESN'T COMPARE.

Nobody cares who he hangs out with. 
BTW...  Tiger Woods... Know adulturer.  Michael Jordan.  Known degenerate gambler.   Nice group.

I DON'T THINK SO IT HAS LESS PEOPLE

That only makes it's massive popularity over the USA even more profound.

WHY THEY NEED TO PLACE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM.

They don't need that.  They have their own league. And wouldn't even allow it if MLB tried.

THE YANKEES ARE HUGE IN JAPAN

The most popular team in Japan is...  And I have told you this before...  The Giants!

I WONDER HOW YOUR GIANT DONE SINCE THEY STUNK IN RATING IN THE STATS.

The Bay Area had a local share of around 40 for the World Series this year.  That's pretty darn good.

YET THE MAJORS ARE SELLING MORE TICKETS THEN EVER.

And the national TV ratings are lower than ever.  That is more telling for how people nationally feel about baseball.  No one is arguing they are doing OK locally.  That's not the problem.

GUESS WHAT YANKEES SOLD MORE TICKETS THEN ANY TEAM BAD FOR BASEBALL

That's not why they are bad for baseball.

POPE'S WANNA BE AT YANKEE STADIUM

The Pope wanted to be at Candlestick park when he came out west while the Giants were still in it.  Big deal.

THE GIANT RANGER WORLD SERIES DIDN'T DRAW NOTHING.

Neither did the Yankees vs anyone.  There were at least 4 instances where the Yankees in the WS provided the lowest ratings to date.  The lack of interest isn't because of who is playing.  It's because people don't care about baseball on a national level.   Get yer head of of your a...   The clouds.

THE PROBLEM IS GET RID OF THE CRAPPY TEAMS LIKE ROYAL

That will only make MLB even LESS popular.  If you are trying to create in interest around the country, you don't deprive regions of teams.  That's foolish.  Besides, maybe the Royals wouldn't be crappy if there were a salary cap with media revenue sharing.  Perhaps they would have incentive to try and compete then?   That WOULD be good for the game.

I BEEN TO IT A LOT AND IT HAS RAIN RAIN RAIN LIKE VERY DAY THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS.

Yeah.  That's like complaining about the snow on the ground in New York because you visit in January.  Get real.
ENOUGH OF THIS STUFF YOU CAN WATCH YOUR JUNK PILE AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET BACK WHILE I KNOW FOR SURE THE YANKEES ARE GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE THEY DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES.

GET SOME HITTERS YOU LINEUP STINK THEY WON'T GET THAT LUCKY AGAIN.
Babe Ruth  
#95 | 1431 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
HE IS NOT MUCH BETTER THEN DEREK JETER

No...  He's a TON better than Jeter... NOT YOUR JUST AN PHONY HATER YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. DEREK

 
OBP    SLG    OPS     
DEREK JETER FIRST ROW, SUZUKI SECOND Row
 
0.385    0.453    0.838      
   0.331    0.376    .806     
 The most important numbers as you can see Derek Jeter better in if you have him hit in the Mariners ball park he would have more hits. Easy Chart OTHER NUMBERS ARE CLOSE ALSO THEY ARE MORE EVEN THEN YOU THINK. DEREK GETS ON BASE AT A BETTER RATE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT OF THEM ALL. HE HAS MORE POWER AND EVERYTHING WHICH IS A GOOD THING FOR THE YANKEES. HE CLUTCH IN THE POST SEASON MOST IMPORANT STAT. MARINERS DONE NOTHING IN THE POST SEASON.

PLUS WHAT PEOPLE TOLD ME SUZUKI IS RUDE

Who gives a crap?  People say Bonds was a jerk.  But that doesn't mean he wasn't the greatest hitter over the last 40 years.... BOND'S IS A COMPLETE CHEATING LOSER HIS NAME DOESN'T BELONG WITH ANYONE

HE HAS MORE HIT IN THE PLAYOFFS THEN ANYONE.

Only because he plays for the most expensive lineup in the Majors and played at a time when there were more playoff games than ever. CRY CRY CRY  You need to understand the WHY for these things.  MARINERS HAD GOOD TEAM'S IN THE PAST THEY HAD A-ROD. Otherwise, things get presented in the wrong light.

JORDAN HAS 6 TITLES

Don't go there.  Basketball is different.  You can just dish the ball to Jordan anytime you want.  You can't put Bonds at the plate anytime you wish.  DON'T PUT BOND'S WITH JORDAN PLEASE HE NOT WORTHY. He HAS to stay in his lineup spot.  Basketball is just different, OK.  One guy CAN carry a team in that sport.

FACE OVER ALL DEREK JETER OVERALL CAREER JUST DESTROYS  SUZUKI CAREER.

Actually, it doesn't.  Suzuki is the better hitter and the better fielder.  And he's more durable. HOW DEREK JETER NEVER MISSES GAMES. BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. GUESS NOT YOU CAN HAVE YOUR PITCHING Look at all the AB's he amassed!  Plus, and I know it is unfair to count it, if you include his NPB numbers, he has over 4000 hits already.NPB NUMBER MINOR LEAGUE YOU CAN'T COUNT THEM  If he started in the US from day one, he would probably have eclipsed Rose's hit total already.MAYBE MAYBE NOT BUT HE WON'T AND HAS NOT. SO YOU ADD JETERS HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS MINOR LEAGUE NUMBERS ALL OF THAT BET ITS ABOUT 4000.

WHY IS THAT HE NEED ONE HE FROM JAPAN.

He didn't NEED one.  It just shows the interest in Japan.  You don't get that for any other player because baseball just isn't as popular in the USA anymore. IF IT SO GOOOD WHY DOES EVERY PLAYER WANNA COME TO THE UNITED STATES. YOU KNOW WHAT PLAYERS GO

BUT WHO HE HANGS OUT DOESN'T COMPARE.

Nobody cares who he hangs out with.
BTW...  Tiger Woods... Know adulturer.  Michael Jordan.  Known degenerate gambler.   Nice group. HALLLLL OF FAME GROUP BOND'S HANGS WITH THEM ALSO BUT HE DOESN'T NEED HIS NAME WITH THEM BECAUSE HE IS A CHEATER OF HIS OWN SPORT. HE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS JORDAN OR WOODS YEAH THEY DONE BAD STUFF AWAY FROM THE SPORT BUT NOT TOO THE SPORT THEY PLAY FACT THEY MADE THE SPORTS THEY PLAY HUGE ALL OVER THE WORLD JORDAN FOR SURE.

I DON'T THINK SO IT HAS LESS PEOPLE

That only makes it's massive popularity over the USA even more profound. LOL BASEBALL IS STILL BIG IN NEW YORK WITH 2 TEAM'S, BOSTON, CHICAGO 2 TEAM'S THE ONLY PLACES THAT MAKE ANY KIND OF MONEY FOR BASEBALL ALL THAT MATTERS. TEAM'S LIKE THE GIANT, PIRATES AND OTHER TEAM'S DON'T MAKE A DIME FOR BASEBALL FOR SURE NOT LIKE THE YANKEES THEY DO 4 TIME MORE THEN BOTH OF YOU.

WHY THEY NEED TO PLACE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM.

They don't need that.  They have their own league. And wouldn't even allow it if MLB tried. FREE INTERPRISE THEY COULD DO IT IF THEY WANTED TO PLACE A TEAM IN JAPAN AND I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN IT WILL HAPPEN SOME DAY WATCH IM 100% RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

THE YANKEES ARE HUGE IN JAPAN

The most popular team in Japan is...  And I have told you this before...  The Giants! NOT LOOK IT UP IT BETWEEN BOSTON AND NEW YORK. GIANTS NO WAY YOU JUST WANNA MAKE YOUR JUNK PILE LOOK IMPORTANT IT IS NOT IMPORTANT.  PLLLLLLLLLLEEASSSSSSE DON'T PUT YOU JUNK PILE WITH THE YANKEES AGAIN. THE TWO MOST POPULAR TEAM'S IN THE WORLD FROM THE UNITED STATES REPEAT THE NEW YORK YANKEES AND LA LAKERS LOOK IT UP YO IT TRUE SO HOW CAN THE JUNK PILE BE AS POPULAR AS THE YANKEES IN ANYTHING.

WORLD WIDE YANKEES ARE MORE POPULAR WITH THE LA LAKERS THEN ANY OTHER AMERICAN TEAM'S IN US SPORTS FACT YOU HATE THAT BUT IT IS TRUE GIANT NOT A ZIT ON THE BEHINDS.

I WONDER HOW YOUR GIANT DONE SINCE THEY STUNK IN RATING IN THE STATS. NATIONALLY THEY WERE HORRIBLE

The Bay Area had a local share of around 40 for the World Series this year.  That's pretty darn good. NO AS GOOD AS THE YANKEES OVERALL

YET THE MAJORS ARE SELLING MORE TICKETS THEN EVER.

And the national TV ratings are lower than ever.  SO WHAT TRUE FAN'S WATCH IT. That is more telling for how people nationally feel about baseball.  No one is arguing they are doing OK locally.  That's not the problem.

GUESS WHAT YANKEES SOLD MORE TICKETS THEN ANY TEAM BAD FOR BASEBALL

That's not why they are bad for baseball.

POPE'S WANNA BE AT YANKEE STADIUM

The Pope wanted to be at Candlestick park when he came out west while the Giants were still in it.  Big deal.

THE GIANT RANGER WORLD SERIES DIDN'T DRAW NOTHING.

Neither did the Yankees vs anyone.  There were at least 4 instances where the Yankees in the WS provided the lowest ratings to date.  The lack of interest isn't because of who is playing. WRONG THE RATING SHOW MORE INTEREST IN THE YANKEES THEN YOU THINK. FACT LOOK AT YOUR RATING BOMBED AND LOOK AT THE YANKEES RATINGS A BIGGER FAN BASE FOR THE YANKEES ACCROSS THE COUNTRY THAT IS FOR SURE.   It's because people don't care about baseball on a national level.   Get yer head of of your a...   The clouds. PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE YANKEES THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE JUNK PILE THAT ABOUT IT. LOOOK AT THE RATING NEW YORK PHILLIE WAS FAR BETTER AND A BETTER SERIES TO WATCH AT THAT. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RANGER OR THE GIANT THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE CLUBS.

THE PROBLEM IS GET RID OF THE CRAPPY TEAMS LIKE ROYAL

That will only make MLB even LESS popular.  If you are trying to create in interest around the country, you don't deprive regions of teams.  That's foolish.  LOOK MAN SOME AREAS JUST DON'T SELL STRAIGHT UP LOOK AFTER TWO WORLD SERIES MARLINES AREN'T CRAP. Besides, maybe the Royals wouldn't be crappy if there were a salary cap with media revenue sharing.  Perhaps they would have incentive to try and compete then?   That WOULD be good for the game.

I BEEN TO IT A LOT AND IT HAS RAIN RAIN RAIN LIKE VERY DAY THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS.

Yeah.  That's like complaining about the snow on the ground in New York because you visit in January.  Get real.
Babe Ruth 
NOT YOUR JUST AN PHONY HATER YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. DEREK

I don't have to know him.  I am just looking at the numbers.  They tell the story.

The most important numbers as you can see Derek Jeter better in if you have him hit in the Mariners ball park he would have more hits

Not true.  Yankee Stadium has always been a far more offensive field than SafeCo.  If Jeter played in Seattle his numbers would decrease some and Ichiro's would be better.

Here are the averages per season for both...   I do this rather than totals because Jeter played 6 years in the Majors while Ichiro was playing in NPL.  I could include that if you want to even things up...  But I don't think you really want that...

Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.)
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
Jeter BA .314
Ichiro BA .331
Jeter avg grounding into DP's 17
Ichiro avg grounding into DP's 5

Jeter does have him on extra base hits.  But a lot of that is a stadium factor where the ball just doesn't fly in Seattle.  Also, Ichiro's batting style is not to hit homers.  It's to get on base and create havoc on the basepaths.  Also, Jeter beats him in average 2B's and HR's.  But Ichiro beats him in 3B's.  Owning to his speed that Jeter wishes he had.

HE CLUTCH IN THE POST SEASON

"Clutch" cannot be measured.  It is the refuge of fools.

BOND'S IS A COMPLETE CHEATING LOSER HIS NAME DOESN'T BELONG WITH ANYONE

He never cheated.  Jerk, perhaps.  But not a cheater.  He earned his top spot on the HR list.  You are just a hater.  You were probably pissed that Aaron took the record away from Ruth.

MARINERS HAD GOOD TEAM'S IN THE PAST THEY HAD A-ROD

One guy doesn't make a team.  In fact, the Mariners were actually better without him.

DON'T PUT BOND'S WITH JORDAN PLEASE HE NOT WORTHY.

Bonds is to baseball what Jordan was to basketball.  Deal with it.

HOW DEREK JETER NEVER MISSES GAMES. BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

He's missed games.  More than Ichiro, that's for sure.  Jeter is at best a slightly above average SS.  He was never an elite fielder.  But Ichiro is an elite outfielder.  He has the speed to patrol the spacious OF of SafeCo.  And he has a cannot for an arm that few ever even test any more.  Jeter couldn't throw anyone out from deep right.  It's why he plays SS so he only has to make the short throw.

NPB NUMBER MINOR LEAGUE YOU CAN'T COUNT THEM

I said it may not be fair..  However...  Many felt their pitchers were comparable to Major League pitching.  So he was getting a lot of hits off quality arms.  Look at all the Japanese arms that have headed over to the states...   Plus, the feat is all the more remarkable considering that the NPL plays about 135 games a season.

SO YOU ADD JETERS HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS MINOR LEAGUE

Even you can't be stupid enough to think of the NPL on par with high school ball...    Are you?

IF IT SO GOOOD WHY DOES EVERY PLAYER WANNA COME TO THE UNITED STATES.

What do you mean?  Players come to the States for two reasons.  They can make more here and the best players from the rest of the world all come here.

HALLLLL OF FAME GROUP BOND'S HANGS WITH THEM

You mean guys like his Godfather Willie freakin' Mays?

HE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS JORDAN OR WOODS

No.  He's not.  Because as far as we know, he didn't cheat on his wives with hundreds of women and he isn't a degenerate gambler.  All he did was take stuff that he felt would help him recover from his multitude of injuries faster.  That is hardly cheating.  Not by ANY definition.

BASEBALL IS STILL BIG IN NEW YORK WITH 2 TEAM'S,

Correction.  The Yankees are big in New York.  Baseball isn't.  Just as the Cubs are big in Chicago.  But baseball isn't.  People in Boston will tune in for the Sox, but they will ignore a late season game with division winning implications between the Rangers and Angels.  This is true across the US.

TEAM'S LIKE THE GIANT, PIRATES AND OTHER TEAM'S DON'T MAKE A DIME FOR BASEBALL

All teams contribute.  Your Yankee-centric view of the world doesn't allow you to see that.

FREE INTERPRISE THEY COULD DO IT IF THEY WANTED TO PLACE A TEAM IN JAPAN

Not if the NPL refused.  MLB has power over themselves and that is all.  Certainly not over the NPL.
But we don't have to worry about that.  It ain't ever gonna happen.

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

Wake up.  They have REAL professional teams.

NOT LOOK IT UP IT BETWEEN BOSTON AND NEW YORK.

Not true.  I have given you links to support this but you keep flapping your gums about it's yankee this and yankee that.  I gave you links to prove it.  All you have is your hot air.
In fact, it is quite possible that right now the Mariners could be the most popular team in Japan.

THE TWO MOST POPULAR TEAM'S IN THE WORLD FROM THE UNITED STATES REPEAT THE NEW YORK YANKEES

Not in Japan.

R WITH THE LA LAKERS

Nobody cares about the Lakers even here in THIS country.  It's all about Kobe.  Not the team.  That's the NBA for you.

NO AS GOOD AS THE YANKEES OVERALL

It's better.  Last year's Yankee overnight locals were in the low 30's.

SO WHAT TRUE FAN'S WATCH IT

They won't for long.  If the numbers keep dipping.  Well, at least have to get cable to...

WRONG THE RATING SHOW MORE INTEREST IN THE YANKEES

Not so.  The ratings show it doesn't matter.   No one cares about baseball.  It's why half the LCS has been placed on such an irrelevant cable station as TBS.  A channel known for Andy Griffith reruns.  Soon, you won't see the LCS on over the air TV at all...  That is NOT a good thing for baseball.

AND LOOK AT THE YANKEES RATINGS

Yeah.  I did.  Four times they were the lowest ratings to date.  You keep ignoring this...

PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE YANKEES

Nobody outside of the Tri State area cares about the Yankees.  In fact, the rest of the country is sick of the Yankees.  It's part of the reason MLB ratings have been sliding downward for the last 25 years.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RANGER OR THE GIANT THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE CLUBS.

And yet, those "junk pile" clubs each finished first and each won pennants.  Neither of which your expensive Yankees were able to do.  You are just a hater.

LOOK MAN SOME AREAS JUST DON'T SELL STRAIGHT UP

There aren't many markets that don't support baseball when they think their team will compete.  I can only think of two.  And both are in the State of Florida.  Both those teams should move.  But other markets have proved they will get support if they can legitimately compete on a regular basis.  Sadly, that will not happen until there is a salary cap combined with media revenue sharing.
Babe Ruth  
#96 | 1431 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
MANY VOTERS WHO VOTE VIEW MY IDEA THEY EVEN SAID SO THEY DON'T LIKE TO VOTE FOR PLAYERS WHO DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

Judging by the voting results, not very many at all.  In fact, it seems to be so few it is insignificant.  As I said, with most, making the playoffs is a small part of the voting process.  In fact, the only time it really matters is if there are two equally deserving guys and one guys team won the division and the others didn't.  But that is about the only time it has ever come into play. YOU NEVER HEAR COMANTARY FROM VOTERS THEY SAY THAT THEY ONLY CHOOSE PLAYERS FROM WINNING TEAM AS THE FIRST PLACE VOTE BUT WHO CARES THE AWARDS ARE BULL ANYWAYS ANYMORE. LIKE I SAID ONLY ONE REAL AWARD.

YET MARKETS IN THE US ARE TAPPED ONLY WAY TO GROW IS GO TOO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Markets in the USA are NOT tapped.  There are still plenty of places to expand in the USA and Canada.  But the league needs to be ready for it.  It was ready in 1993.  But not in 1998.  Growth is not just adding teams. MORE TEAMS YOU NEED MORE PLAYOFF SPOTS MORE INTEREST. In fact, you can have growth without expansion.  Growth in terms of popularity in the US.  Growth in terms of bring in the casual fan.  Those things lead to more $$ for owners and players.

PEOPLE FROM THE PAST ARE LOST NO MATTER WHAT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED TO REORDER THE DIVISION PUT HIGH MARKET TEAM WITH THEMSELVES AND LOW WITH THEMSELVE THIS WILL MAKE IT EASYER

Huh?   What?   People from the past?  What are you talking about?  PEOPLE WHO WATCH LONG AGO ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE AND WON'T BE. There is no need to change divisions. I DISAGREE IF YOU PUT TWO POWER HOUSES WITH THE YANKEES THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER. YOU PUT LOWER END TEAM'S TOGETHER THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM Geographic divisions would work just fine with a little economic tweaking. WRONG BASEBALL NEEDS NO CAP THAT IS NOT IT. I DON'T LIKE THE CAP FOR ANY SPORT.

BASEBALL HAS GROWN UNLIKE YOU DUDE IT GROWN IN THE RIGHT SPOT SEATS BASEBALL SELLING MORE SEATS THEN EVER. THE YES NETWORK IS WORTH OVER 3 BILLION DOLLARS.

Baseball has not grown.  It has regressed.  It is as insignificant as it has ever been.  Their post season "jewels" have been relegated to CABLE!!   That is not growth.  That is retardation.  TV ratings are the lowest they have ever been.  Sure, teams do OK in the towns they are in.  But elsewhere, nobody cares.  The worth of the YES network means nothing regarding this.  It's local.  Not national. I CAN GET YES NETWORK IN WASHINGTON WITH A DISH NOTHING IS TRULY LOCAL YOU CAN GET WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT.

SO YOUR SAYING IF THE ROYAL FOR ONE YEAR GOT IN WITH THE EXTRA WILD CARD IT WON'T HELP THAT TEAM.

It would temporally help the team.  But it wouldn't be good for the game overall.  And it would do nothing for the Royals long term.

LOOK AT THE REGIONAL RATINGS FOR BASEBALL.

Exactly.  That is not good.  Baseball used to be a national thing.  Not a regional thing.  People in New York tune into Yankee games.  But no one else does or even cares.  30 years ago, people across the country actually CARED to watch a late season pennant game between the Pirates and Cardinals, for example.  Not so anymore. YOU HAD ONLY BASEBALL ON A LOT OF TIME TODAY YOU HAVE 500 CHANNELS TODAY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WATCH BASEBALL ANYMORE STRAIGHT UP IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IT IS TO MOST PEOPLE A BORING SLOW SPORT THAT IS THE PROBLEM NOT THE YANKEES OR OTHER TEAM NOT EVEN THE JUNK PILE MOVING FROM NEW YORK TO SAN FRAN

WELL YOU DON'T SEE DRAGONBLADE ANYMORE REASON FOR THAT IM NOT GOING TO SAY I MUST BE GOOD AT IT.

That doesn't mean you are good at it.  It means you abuse it.  Which is not something most folks would brag about. PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF DRAGON THAT IS ALL.

VOTTO ALREADY HAS IT YOU MUST NOT WATCH TV LOL.

Haven't watched TV all day.  Haven't been on line much either.  I was working. HE WON IT AT 2 PM MY TIME WHICH IS MORNING YOUR TIME.

THEN IT'S NOT REALLY AN MVP AWARD IT'S THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR DIFFERENCE.

Sure it is.  Players can be very valuable for mediocre teams. YOU CAN BUT YOU DON'T EARN THE AWARD IN MY VIEW CHANGE THE NAME OF THE AWARD TO PLAYER OF THE YEAR.  I honestly don't know why you cannot see this.... I ONLY SEE A PLAYER SINCE IT IS VALUABLE GETTING IT ON A PLAYOFF TEAM TAKE THE TERM VALUABLE OUT OF IT THEN.    VALUEABLE MEAN'S TO ME A PERSON WHO HAS VALUE TO A WINNING SEASON NOT LOSING

LIKE I SAID ONLY PLAYERS WHO ARE VALUEABLE TO MAKING THE PLAYOFFS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED

Like I said...  That opens up a slippery slope.  Most post season teams do not arrive there due to the efforts one guy...  It is a team effort.  Votto could have put up even better numbers than he did but if the Reds pitching fell apart, why should he get punished for something that he has no control over?  YEP HE SHOULD NOT GET IT STRAIGHT UP GIVE IT TO THE NEXT GUY WHO IS IN THE PLAYOFFS ON THE LIST HIS TEAM DIDN'T HELP HIM EARN THE AWARD FOR HIM. TO BAD IF HIS TEAM SUCKS I DON'T CARE HE NOT VALUABLE IN MY VIEW ON A LOSSING TEAM IF YOUR TEAM STINKS IT STINKS SHOULDN'T BE REWARDED BECAUSE YOU HELP YOUR LOSING TEAM WIN A FEW EXTRA GAMES IF IT DIDN'T MATTER ANYWAYS. You have never answered this question.

THE AWARD IS A JOKE WHEN THEY DO ONLY REAL AWARD ANYMORE IN THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP.

Then, again, why are you moaning and groaning about it? BECAUSE THEY NEED TO MAKE AWARD REAL AGAIN AN STOP MAKING THEM BS.



I

TO BAD IF YOU DIDN'T HELP YOUR TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFFS.

And yet, if that exact same player puts up the exact same numbers but the closer doesn't blow those 4 saves or those middle inning guys hold on to a few more wins or that guy further down in the line up could have come up with a few more hits....   That player WOULDN'T be eligible.  Under your guideline.  That's ridiculous. IF HIS TEAM HELP HIM IN THE PLAYOFFS HE ELIGIBLE IF HE ISN'T IN THE PLAYOFF HE SHOULDN'T GET AN AWARD FOR MEANING OF THE AWARD WITH THE TERM VALUABLE IN IT. GET RID OF VALUABLE AND IT IS ALL GOOD.

YOU SHOULDN'T GET REWARDED FOR YOUR TEAM LOSING.

My feelings exactly for 2nd place teams.  They lost. THEY HAVE AN WILD CARD OLD MAN ITS THE NEW AGE GET USE TO IT OLD MAN ALL SPORTS HAVE SOME KIND OF WILD CARD THEY EARNED IT THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS GET OVER IT OLD MAN.  Like the Yankees last year should not have been rewarded for losing. YOU TEAM WASN'T FIRST PLACE IN YOUR LEAGUE. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE GIANTS IN THE DIVISION

SO WHAT MIGHT OF NEEDED 35 WIN'S TO GET TO THE PLAYOFFS.

So...  In your view...  Suppose a player has the season of all seasons.  No errors in the field.  Drives in 200 runs.  Scores 150.  Hits 75 dingers.  Hits 60 doubles and 30 triples.  No other player in the league even comes close to him.  He plays on a crappy team so instead of winning 60 games, because of his efforts, they win 90.  But still finish 2 games behind the division winner.  And let's say in 3rd place.  You think that kind of season is NOT worthy of the MVP?????? IF HE NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS NOPE THOSE NUMBERS MEAN NOTHING AT ALL JUST LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE WITH LIGHTS ON IT YOU KNOW THE PRESENTS ARE WHAT IMPORTANT WHICH IS THE POST SEASON. NUMBERS CAN LOOK FLASHY ALL THEY WANT IF THEY DON'T HELP EARN A PLAYOFF SPOT SO BE IT YOU SHOULDN'T GET THE AWARD.

YEP HARD HARD HARD.

You are being inconsistent.  Why are you being so hard on that yet you are OK with half the league making the playoffs?  This makes no sense. YEP BRING THEM ALL IN IT SELL MORE SEATS LETS MORE PEOPLE WATCH AN WINNING TEAM BLAH BLAH BLAH.

MVP WINNERS ALWAYS HAD GOOD PLAYER BEHIND THEM TO HELP THEM GET THE AWARD.

Not

"Which is it?"  BOTH

It can't be both.  It's either a team thing or an individual thing.  If it is a team thing, then the team gets the ward.  Not the individual. WELL IT IS A TEAM THING THEY HELP HIM GET THE AWARD THE DEFENDERS HELP THE PLAYER DEFEND BETTER.

BY CHOICE, BY CHOICE,

No way.  You are saying the Yankees CHOSE to lose.  They CHOSE to give up revenue from extra home games.  No way, chief.  No effing way. ALOT OF THE MAIN LINEUP WAS HURT SO THEY HAD TO REST PLAYER IN KEY SITUATION THAT WHY THEY LOST. THE KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO THEY HAD TO REST GUYS

WELL YANKEES DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE WITH A BETTER TEAM

They weren't better this year.  They were so bad they couldn't even win their division. OLD MAN THEY WON THE WILD CARD AND THE BEAT A DIVISION WINNER. IT IS A NEW AGE OLD MAN GET OVER IT THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND IT IS NO BIG DEAL AT ALL.  With They lost to a team that spent a mere 34% of what the Yankees spent.  That's pathetic.  Yankee fans should be embarrassed. GIANT FAN'S SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED PATHETIC IT TOOK OVER 50 YEARS TO WIN ANYTHING AT ALL. YOU WASTED LIFE TIME MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOUR TEAM DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE PATHETIC. THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE GROUP

THIS IS ABOUT REGULAR SEASON YOUR TEAM WASN'T AS GOOD IN THE REGULAR SEASON

They were better.  They dominated their opponents with their incredible pitching.  Cliff who? YANKEES BEAT LEE MANY TIMES IN THE PAST LOL
And, to coin a phrase...  They were better when they HAD to be....SO WHAT YANKEES WON WORLD SERIES PLENTY OF TIMES SO IF SOME TEAM GET IT SO WHAT TRY IT NEXT YEAR. THEY WILL BE IN THE PLAYOFFS NEXT YEAR DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE GIANTS WILL BE.

YOUR TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES BUT WASN'T THE BEST TEAM IN THE PLAYOFFS. LOL PHILLIES WERE BUT YOU BEAT THEM WHICH HAPPENS TIME TO TIME

If you are the Yankees, it happens more than from "time to time".  It happens a LOT.   hahahaha!!!!!!  All that money and you still can't win!!!! WHAT YANKEES HAVE MORE WORLD SERIES THEY EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL. HAHAHA AND IT DOESN'T TAKE THEM 50+ YEARS TO DO SO LIKE THE JUNK PILE.
BUT WHO CARES THE AWARDS ARE BULL ANYWAYS ANYMORE.

You seem to care.  You are spending a lot of time whining about it.

MORE TEAMS YOU NEED MORE PLAYOFF SPOTS MORE INTEREST.

That has been done.  It didn't generate more interest.  In fact, it seemed to speed up Disinterest.  Bigger playoffs do not work.  Especially for baseball.  You would know this if you knew anything beyond 3 outs about about the game.

PEOPLE WHO WATCH LONG AGO ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE AND WON'T BE.

OK...  People are born, and then they die.  So?

I DISAGREE IF YOU PUT TWO POWER HOUSES WITH THE YANKEES THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER. YOU PUT LOWER END TEAM'S TOGETHER THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM

I fail to see how things would be better.  You are talking about changing the divisions on an annual basis.  This makes no sense and will only serve to confuse the casual fan.

WRONG BASEBALL NEEDS NO CAP THAT IS NOT IT. I DON'T LIKE THE CAP FOR ANY SPORT.

And yet they have worked and worked WELL in EVERY sport that has done it.  Baseball NEEDS it.

I CAN GET YES NETWORK IN WASHINGTON WITH A DISH NOTHING IS TRULY LOCAL YOU CAN GET WHAT THE HELL YOU WANT.

You have to pay extra for those "local" packages.  Further, the games aren't even included with them.  They are a waste. 

YOU HAD ONLY BASEBALL ON A LOT OF TIME TODAY YOU HAVE 500 CHANNELS TODAY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WATCH BASEBALL ANYMORE STRAIGHT UP IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IT IS TO MOST PEOPLE A BORING SLOW SPORT THAT IS THE PROBLEM NOT THE YANKEES

There are indeed more viewing options today.  But that argument has been made and dealt with.  All ratings have dropped.  But ratings for baseball have dropped a much faster rate the the rest of TV.  The problem isn't the speed of the game.  It is bigger than that.  The problem is you get the same 8 teams competing for playoff spots year in and year out.  And the same 8 teams fighting for the cellar year in and year out.  Fans don't like that.  All the expanded playoffs in the world won't change that.  In fact, it will just make things worse.  People still watch locally.  Just not nationally.  Part of it was MLB marketing to fans in such a way that they are telling them NOT to care about any other team but their favorite.  That has to change too.

PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF DRAGON THAT IS ALL.

You can think that, but I'm sure you earned your expulsion.  I've seen things you wrote....

HE WON IT AT 2 PM MY TIME WHICH IS MORNING YOUR TIME.

What part of "I WAS WORKING" do you NOT get?

YEP HE SHOULD NOT GET IT STRAIGHT UP GIVE IT TO THE NEXT GUY WHO IS IN THE PLAYOFFS ON THE LIST HIS TEAM DIDN'T HELP HIM EARN THE AWARD FOR HIM. TO BAD IF HIS TEAM SUCKS I DON'T CARE HE NOT VALUABLE IN MY VIEW ON A LOSSING TEAM IF YOUR TEAM STINKS IT STINKS SHOULDN'T BE REWARDED BECAUSE YOU HELP YOUR LOSING TEAM WIN A FEW EXTRA GAMES IF IT DIDN'T MATTER ANYWAYS.

That isn't an answer.  Why do you want to punish players for something they cannot control?

BECAUSE THEY NEED TO MAKE AWARD REAL AGAIN AN STOP MAKING THEM BS.

But...  But...  You said you don't care....

THEY HAVE AN WILD CARD

The wild card is just a playoff spot for teams that didn't win.  There is a word for that...  LOSER!

ALL SPORTS HAVE SOME KIND OF WILD CARD

No sport plays 162 games either.

THEY EARNED IT

You can't earn it when you lost.  It's a hand out.  A freebie.  It's a booby prize.  It's, "we're sorry you failed in your attempt to be a true winner.  But here is a free playoff spot for having the most wins among the LOSERS."

YOU TEAM WASN'T FIRST PLACE IN YOUR LEAGUE.

Standings aren't league wide.  They are divisional   The schedule is based on your division.  So all that matters is FIRST PLACE.  Which the Giants did and the Yankees didn't.  Deal with it.

YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE GIANTS IN THE DIVISION

Now you are saying 2nd place is better than first place?  You are deranged.

YOU KNOW THE PRESENTS ARE WHAT IMPORTANT

Wow...   I feel very sorry for you if you think presents are the most important part of Christmas.   Very sorry indeed.  You really just don't get life in general, do you....

YEP BRING THEM ALL IN IT SELL MORE SEATS LETS MORE PEOPLE WATCH AN WINNING TEAM BLAH BLAH BLAH.

If there are that many teams in the playoffs, it is likely you will get some sub .500 teams in.  But that won't hurt the game nearly as much as expanded playoffs will.  It already has since the playoffs were expanded in 1994.  Interest dropped like a rock.

WELL IT IS A TEAM THING

Then why is the award presented to an individual?  We are going in circles because you refuse to answer the questions.

ALOT OF THE MAIN LINEUP WAS HURT SO THEY HAD TO REST PLAYER IN KEY SITUATION THAT WHY THEY LOST.

Wha wha wha.  All teams get hurt.  If they were really a good deep team, they would overcome it.  This just reeks of excuses and sour grapes.  Cry me a river.

THE KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS SO THEY HAD TO REST GUYS

If that is the case, it speaks to yet another reason fans aren't interested in baseball any more.  Teams don't care if they win or lose. 

OLD MAN THEY WON THE WILD CARD

Non sequitor.  You don't "win" the wild card since you have to lose to be eligible for it.

GIANT FAN'S SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED

I'll take your avoidance of the issue at hand to mean you agree with my comment.  Stop that 2nd grade tactic, please.  Yet another thing you should be embarrassed about.

YANKEES BEAT LEE MANY TIMES IN THE PAST

We've been here before.   Not "when it mattered most".  Your words.  Not mine.

YANKEES HAVE MORE WORLD SERIES THEY EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL.

And they had to outspend everyone 3 to one to do it.  That is not skill.  That just means you have money.
Babe Ruth  
#97 | 1431 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
ENOUGH OF THIS STUFF YOU CAN WATCH YOUR JUNK PILE AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET BACK WHILE I KNOW FOR SURE THE YANKEES ARE GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE THEY DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES.

GET SOME HITTERS YOU LINEUP STINK THEY WON'T GET THAT LUCKY AGAIN.
Yeah.  Having money makes that more likely.  That doesn't mean your team is well run.  It just mean they have geography on their side.  They SHOULD win all the time with the money they have.  Yet they don't.

It wasn't luck.  It was dominating pitching that came together.  You have crap pitching so of course you don't recognize it!  :)
Babe Ruth  
#98 | 1431 days ago

(Edited by TatsuKlinga2812812)
ML31 wrote:
NOT YOUR JUST AN PHONY HATER YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. DEREK

I don't have to know him.  I am just looking at the numbers.  They tell the story.

The most important numbers as you can see Derek Jeter better in if you have him hit in the Mariners ball park he would have more hits

Not true.  Yankee Stadium has always been a far more offensive field than SafeCo.  If Jeter played in Seattle his numbers would decrease some and Ichiro's would be better.

Here are the averages per season for both...   I do this rather than totals because Jeter played 6 years in the Majors while Ichiro was playing in NPL.  I could include that if you want to even things up...  But I don't think you really want that...

Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.)
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
Jeter BA .314
Ichiro BA .331
Jeter avg grounding into DP's 17
Ichiro avg grounding into DP's 5

Jeter does have him on extra base hits.  But a lot of that is a stadium factor where the ball just doesn't fly in Seattle.  Also, Ichiro's batting style is not to hit homers.  It's to get on base and create havoc on the basepaths.  Also, Jeter beats him in average 2B's and HR's.  But Ichiro beats him in 3B's.  Owning to his speed that Jeter wishes he had.

HE CLUTCH IN THE POST SEASON

"Clutch" cannot be measured.  It is the refuge of fools.

BOND'S IS A COMPLETE CHEATING LOSER HIS NAME DOESN'T BELONG WITH ANYONE

He never cheated.  Jerk, perhaps.  But not a cheater.  He earned his top spot on the HR list.  You are just a hater.  You were probably pissed that Aaron took the record away from Ruth.

MARINERS HAD GOOD TEAM'S IN THE PAST THEY HAD A-ROD

One guy doesn't make a team.  In fact, the Mariners were actually better without him.

DON'T PUT BOND'S WITH JORDAN PLEASE HE NOT WORTHY.

Bonds is to baseball what Jordan was to basketball.  Deal with it.

HOW DEREK JETER NEVER MISSES GAMES. BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

He's missed games.  More than Ichiro, that's for sure.  Jeter is at best a slightly above average SS.  He was never an elite fielder.  But Ichiro is an elite outfielder.  He has the speed to patrol the spacious OF of SafeCo.  And he has a cannot for an arm that few ever even test any more.  Jeter couldn't throw anyone out from deep right.  It's why he plays SS so he only has to make the short throw.

NPB NUMBER MINOR LEAGUE YOU CAN'T COUNT THEM

I said it may not be fair..  However...  Many felt their pitchers were comparable to Major League pitching.  So he was getting a lot of hits off quality arms.  Look at all the Japanese arms that have headed over to the states...   Plus, the feat is all the more remarkable considering that the NPL plays about 135 games a season.

SO YOU ADD JETERS HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS MINOR LEAGUE

Even you can't be stupid enough to think of the NPL on par with high school ball...    Are you?

IF IT SO GOOOD WHY DOES EVERY PLAYER WANNA COME TO THE UNITED STATES.

What do you mean?  Players come to the States for two reasons.  They can make more here and the best players from the rest of the world all come here.

HALLLLL OF FAME GROUP BOND'S HANGS WITH THEM

You mean guys like his Godfather Willie freakin' Mays?

HE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS JORDAN OR WOODS

No.  He's not.  Because as far as we know, he didn't cheat on his wives with hundreds of women and he isn't a degenerate gambler.  All he did was take stuff that he felt would help him recover from his multitude of injuries faster.  That is hardly cheating.  Not by ANY definition.

BASEBALL IS STILL BIG IN NEW YORK WITH 2 TEAM'S,

Correction.  The Yankees are big in New York.  Baseball isn't.  Just as the Cubs are big in Chicago.  But baseball isn't.  People in Boston will tune in for the Sox, but they will ignore a late season game with division winning implications between the Rangers and Angels.  This is true across the US.

TEAM'S LIKE THE GIANT, PIRATES AND OTHER TEAM'S DON'T MAKE A DIME FOR BASEBALL

All teams contribute.  Your Yankee-centric view of the world doesn't allow you to see that.

FREE INTERPRISE THEY COULD DO IT IF THEY WANTED TO PLACE A TEAM IN JAPAN

Not if the NPL refused.  MLB has power over themselves and that is all.  Certainly not over the NPL.
But we don't have to worry about that.  It ain't ever gonna happen.

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

Wake up.  They have REAL professional teams.

NOT LOOK IT UP IT BETWEEN BOSTON AND NEW YORK.

Not true.  I have given you links to support this but you keep flapping your gums about it's yankee this and yankee that.  I gave you links to prove it.  All you have is your hot air.
In fact, it is quite possible that right now the Mariners could be the most popular team in Japan.

THE TWO MOST POPULAR TEAM'S IN THE WORLD FROM THE UNITED STATES REPEAT THE NEW YORK YANKEES

Not in Japan.

R WITH THE LA LAKERS

Nobody cares about the Lakers even here in THIS country.  It's all about Kobe.  Not the team.  That's the NBA for you.

NO AS GOOD AS THE YANKEES OVERALL

It's better.  Last year's Yankee overnight locals were in the low 30's.

SO WHAT TRUE FAN'S WATCH IT

They won't for long.  If the numbers keep dipping.  Well, at least have to get cable to...

WRONG THE RATING SHOW MORE INTEREST IN THE YANKEES

Not so.  The ratings show it doesn't matter.   No one cares about baseball.  It's why half the LCS has been placed on such an irrelevant cable station as TBS.  A channel known for Andy Griffith reruns.  Soon, you won't see the LCS on over the air TV at all...  That is NOT a good thing for baseball.

AND LOOK AT THE YANKEES RATINGS

Yeah.  I did.  Four times they were the lowest ratings to date.  You keep ignoring this...

PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE YANKEES

Nobody outside of the Tri State area cares about the Yankees.  In fact, the rest of the country is sick of the Yankees.  It's part of the reason MLB ratings have been sliding downward for the last 25 years.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RANGER OR THE GIANT THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE CLUBS.

And yet, those "junk pile" clubs each finished first and each won pennants.  Neither of which your expensive Yankees were able to do.  You are just a hater.

LOOK MAN SOME AREAS JUST DON'T SELL STRAIGHT UP

There aren't many markets that don't support baseball when they think their team will compete.  I can only think of two.  And both are in the State of Florida.  Both those teams should move.  But other markets have proved they will get support if they can legitimately compete on a regular basis.  Sadly, that will not happen until there is a salary cap combined with media revenue sharing.
Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
 MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM. DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL.. HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT SO IT REALLY A WASH RUN'S ARE WHAT IMPORTANT.  BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING HE WOULD HAVE MORE HITS. STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ALL I NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT. YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN. IF DEREK JETER PLAYED IN THE WEAK WEST AWAY FROM THE RED SOX AND OTHER GOOD TEAM THE NUMBER WOULD BE EVEN MORE SIMILAR/
Babe Ruth  
#99 | 1431 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
 MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM. DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL.. HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT SO IT REALLY A WASH RUN'S ARE WHAT IMPORTANT.  BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING HE WOULD HAVE MORE HITS. STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ALL I NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT. YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN. IF DEREK JETER PLAYED IN THE WEAK WEST AWAY FROM THE RED SOX AND OTHER GOOD TEAM THE NUMBER WOULD BE EVEN MORE SIMILAR/
LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.

I don't know what sport you are talking about.  But in baseball you don't hit runs.

MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM.

You mean like World Series rings?

DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL..

Actually, they do control that.  It shows how much they play each year.  The more AB's the more you are in the line up.  Both hit at the top of the order so all things being equal they should have similar AB's.  Yet Ichiro comes up with many more.  He even has more plate appearances.

HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

They ARE a big deal.  In fact, Ichiro set a record for most hits in a single season.  Jeter has never come close.

REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT

The runs are more a function of the hitters behind them.  They can get on base, but if no one brings them in, they have no control.  And the Yankys spend way more money on it than the M's do.  So it stands to reason that Jeter would score more.  Yet the difference isn't as profound as one would expect considering all that...

BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO

Irrelevant.  He doesn't.  Let's not work with "ifs".

WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING

To some extent.  With a big offense you can get more AB's.  But since the Yankees have the better hitters around Jeter, one would think it would benefit him.  Yet it doesn't.  It also measures how often a player is in the game. 

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

If he could, he would.  You would rather have a runner at first than runners at first AND 2nd?   If so, you are truly nuts. 

YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN.

That changes every year.  For example, in 2009, the AL west was the superior division.  Can't use that one.

And please, stop with the "ifs".  You don't know that and it doesn't support your case.
Babe Ruth  
#100 | 1431 days ago

ML31 wrote:
LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.

I don't know what sport you are talking about.  But in baseball you don't hit runs.

MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM.

You mean like World Series rings?

DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL..

Actually, they do control that.  It shows how much they play each year.  The more AB's the more you are in the line up.  Both hit at the top of the order so all things being equal they should have similar AB's.  Yet Ichiro comes up with many more.  He even has more plate appearances.

HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

They ARE a big deal.  In fact, Ichiro set a record for most hits in a single season.  Jeter has never come close.

REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT

The runs are more a function of the hitters behind them.  They can get on base, but if no one brings them in, they have no control.  And the Yankys spend way more money on it than the M's do.  So it stands to reason that Jeter would score more.  Yet the difference isn't as profound as one would expect considering all that...

BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO

Irrelevant.  He doesn't.  Let's not work with "ifs".

WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING

To some extent.  With a big offense you can get more AB's.  But since the Yankees have the better hitters around Jeter, one would think it would benefit him.  Yet it doesn't.  It also measures how often a player is in the game. 

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

If he could, he would.  You would rather have a runner at first than runners at first AND 2nd?   If so, you are truly nuts. 

YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN.

That changes every year.  For example, in 2009, the AL west was the superior division.  Can't use that one.

And please, stop with the "ifs".  You don't know that and it doesn't support your case.
LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.

I don't know what sport you are talking about.  But in baseball you don't hit runs. WELL JETER HAS A BETTER RBI AVERAGE ALSO THE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT. HE HAS MORE RUN SO HIS TEAM IS BETTER AT GETTING HIM.

MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM.

You mean like World Series rings? RINGS THAT DEREK JETER HELP EARN NOT LIKE HE DIDN'T PLAY ANY GAMES IN THE POST SEASON. YOUR JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE ONE GUY HAS AS MANY WORLD SERIES AS YOUR WHO FRANSHICE

DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL..

Actually, they do control that.  It shows how much they play each year.  The more AB's the more you are in the line up. MANY TIMES IN THE YEAR THE YANKEES HAVE A BLOW OUT THEY TAKE JETER OUT EARLY MANY TIMES IN THE 7TH INNING THAT DOESN'T TAKE AT BATS. IF A TEAM IS WINNING BIG WHY SHOULD THEY KEEP THE PLAYERS IN THE LINEUP.  Both hit at the top of the order so all things being equal they should have similar AB's. BUT  Yet Ichiro comes up with many more.  He even has more plate appearances.

HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

They ARE a big deal.  In fact, Ichiro set a record for most hits in a single season.  I DON'T CARE IF HE HAS THE WORLD RECORD THAT MEAN'S NOTHING TO ME. Jeter has never come close.

REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT

The runs are more a function of the hitters behind them. SOOOOOOOOOO IT MEAN'S HE BETTER AT SCORING RUNNERS ON BASE THE  Ichiro Suzuki  They can get on base, but if no one brings them in, they have no control.  And the Yankys spend way more money on it than the M's do.  So it stands to reason that Jeter would score more.  Yet the difference isn't as profound as one would expect considering all that...

BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO

Irrelevant.  He doesn't.  Let's not work with "ifs".

WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING

To some extent.  With a big offense you can get more AB's.  But since the Yankees have the better hitters around Jeter, one would think it would benefit him.  Yet it doesn't.  It also measures how often a player is in the game.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

If he could, he would.  You would rather have a runner at first than runners at first AND 2nd?   If so, you are truly nuts.

YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN.

That changes every year.  For example, in 2009, the AL west was the superior division.  Can't use that one.

And please, stop with the "ifs".  You don't know that and it doesn't support your case.



NOT YOUR JUST AN PHONY HATER YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. DEREK

I don't have to know him.  I am just looking at the numbers.  They tell the story.

The most important numbers as you can see Derek Jeter better in if you have him hit in the Mariners ball park he would have more hits

Not true.  Yankee Stadium has always been a far more offensive field than SafeCo.  If Jeter played in Seattle his numbers would decrease some and Ichiro's would be better.

Here are the averages per season for both...   I do this rather than totals because Jeter played 6 years in the Majors while Ichiro was playing in NPL.  I could include that if you want to even things up...  But I don't think you really want that...

Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.)
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
Jeter BA .314
Ichiro BA .331
Jeter avg grounding into DP's 17
Ichiro avg grounding into DP's 5



RBI'S AVG DEREK JETER

Jeter does have him on extra base hits.  But a lot of that is a stadium factor where the ball just doesn't fly in Seattle.  Also, Ichiro's batting style is not to hit homers.HE A SLAP HITTER THAT ALL HE IS. DEREK ISN'T AN HOMERUN HITTER EITHER. LOOK NO ONE IN YANKEE HISTORY HIT 3000 HITS IN YANKEE STADIUM TELLS ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUILDING IT SELF It's to get on base and create havoc on the basepaths.  Also, Jeter beats him in average 2B's and HR's.  But Ichiro beats him in 3B's. WELL DEREK JETER HAS MORE 4 BASEHIT THAT BRING THAT TO A WASH.   Owning to his speed that Jeter wishes he had. WELL WITH WHAT JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES THAT WHAT ICHIRO WISH HE HAS AN HE WILL NEVER HAVE 5 WORLD SERIES.

HE CLUTCH IN THE POST SEASON

"Clutch" cannot be measured.  It is the refuge of fools.HELPING A TEAM WHEN IT MEAN'S THE MOST THAT WHAT IT MEAN.   WHAT TIME YOU HIT IS MOST IMPORTANT 3 RUN'S DOWN IN THE 9TH YOU HIT A GRAND SLAM CLUTCH. IF YOU ARE UP 7 RUN'S AND HIT A GRAND SLAM NOT CLUTCH STRAIGHT UP.

BOND'S IS A COMPLETE CHEATING LOSER HIS NAME DOESN'T BELONG WITH ANYONE

He never cheated.  Jerk, perhaps.  But not a cheater.STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS HE A CHEATER.  He earned his top spot on the HR list.  CHEATING You are just a hater.  You were probably pissed that Aaron took the record away from Ruth. IM 29 I WAS NEVER AROUND WHEN THAT WAS BROKEN RECORDS ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN BUT NOT LIKE BONDS DID CHEATING.

MARINERS HAD GOOD TEAM'S IN THE PAST THEY HAD A-ROD

One guy doesn't make a team.  In fact, the Mariners were actually better without him.KG JR THE BIG UNIT BLAH BLAH BLAH.

DON'T PUT BOND'S WITH JORDAN PLEASE HE NOT WORTHY.

Bonds is to baseball what Jordan was to basketball.  Deal with it. WRONG THAT BELONGS TO BABE RUTH. HE IS NOT THE JORDAN OF BASEBALL HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHAMPIONSHIPS. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WAIT HE HAS NONE JORDAN HAS 6 AND IN DOMINATING FASTION. BABE HAS 7 WORLD SERIES. BUT IT ALL GOOD YOU CAN THINK YOUR LITTLE JUICED GIANT IS IN THE CLASS OF MICHAEL JORDAN OR TIGER WOOD NOOOOO WAY.  STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS.

HOW DEREK JETER NEVER MISSES GAMES. BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

He's missed games.  More than Ichiro, that's for sure. WELL YANKEES ARE A SMART TEAM THEY GIVE PLAYERS REST FROM TIME TO TIME. THEY HAVE THE PLAYERS HIT WHEN A BLOWOUT HAPPENED. Jeter is at best a slightly above average SS.  He was never an elite fielder.  But Ichiro is an elite outfielder. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A BETTER FIELDER TO BE A SHORT STOP BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE NO GOOD ANYTHING REALLY BUT A FEW PITCHERS THATS ABOUT IT. He has the speed to patrol the spacious OF of SafeCo.  YANKEES IS NOT A SMALL PARK REALLY IT IS BIGGER THEN ANY BALL PARK IT A STADIUM. And he has a cannot for an arm that few ever even test any more. WELL JETER HAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE ARMS EVERY FOR A SHORT STOP. WELL HE USED TO. Jeter couldn't throw anyone out from deep right. DON'T KNOW HE NEVER HAD TO TRY HE WAS A SHORT STOP YOU NEVER KNOW. It's why he plays SS BESIDES PITCHER AND CATCHER THE MOST IMPORTANT POSTION IN BASEBALL MORE IMPORTANT THEN OUTFIELDERS THEY ARE A DIME A DOZEN YOU CAN'T FIND GOOD INFIELDER ALL OVER THE PLACE. so he only has to make the short throw. WELL A SHORT BIG THROW.

NPB NUMBER MINOR LEAGUE YOU CAN'T COUNT THEM

I said it may not be fair..  However...  Many felt their pitchers were comparable to Major League pitching. NOT REALLY  So he was getting a lot of hits off quality arms.  Look at all the Japanese arms that have headed over to the states...   Plus, the feat is all the more remarkable considering that the NPL plays about 135 games a season.IF YOU TAKE SAY THE YANKEES TEAM AN ALL AND PLAY JAPAN FOR A SEASON I WOULD PROMISE YOU THE YANKEES WOULD DESTROY EVERY SINGLE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN. I WOULDN'T EVEN BE CLOSE. YOU CAN COMPARE THE PITCHING IT WAY BETTER IN THE UNITED STATES.

SO YOU ADD JETERS HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS MINOR LEAGUE

Even you can't be stupid enough to think of the NPL on par with high school ball... AA-AAA A BALL IT NOT AS GOOD AS THE MAJOR LEAGUES NOT AT ALL.    Are you?

IF IT SO GOOOD WHY DOES EVERY PLAYER WANNA COME TO THE UNITED STATES.

What do you mean?  Players come to the States for two reasons.  They can make more here and the best players from the rest of the world all come here. ONLY CRAPPY PLAYERS FROM THE US GO TO JAPAN A LOT OF PLAYERS FROM THE US PLAY IN JAPAN NO HALL OF FAMERS ONLY WAY THAT WOULD HAPPEN HAVE A REAL MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN.

HALLLLL OF FAME GROUP BOND'S HANGS WITH THEM

You mean guys like his Godfather Willie freakin' Mays?MICHAEL JORDAN IS A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THEN MAYES IS A BASEBALL PLAYER.

HE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS JORDAN OR WOODS

No.  He's not.  Because as far as we know, he didn't cheat on his wives with hundreds of women and he isn't a degenerate gambler.BONDS DIDN'T CHEAT ON HIS WIFE BULL SHIT HE ISN'T AN SAINT.  All he did was take stuff that he felt would help him recover from his multitude of injuries faster. THAT GAVE HIM MORE POWER AT AN OLDER AGE TO HIT MORE HOMERUN'S.           THE BODY IS A CRAZY THING ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN AGE YOU BODY JUST GOES DOWN HILL UNLESS YOU USE SOME KIND OF DRUG THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MAINTAIN THE SAME SHAPE. WHY BODY BUILDERS USE IT. That is hardly cheating.BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES. IT'S A LEVEL THREE DRUG YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.  BET NOT LOOK IT UP. Not by ANY definition.

BASEBALL IS STILL BIG IN NEW YORK WITH 2 TEAM'S,

Correction.  The Yankees are big in New York. MET SELL 3-4 MILLION SEATS EVERY YEAR SO THEY GET THERES Baseball isn't.  Just as the Cubs are big in Chicago.  But baseball isn't.  People in Boston will tune in for the Sox, but they will ignore a late season game with division winning implications between the Rangers and Angels.  This is true across the US.

TEAM'S LIKE THE GIANT, PIRATES AND OTHER TEAM'S DON'T MAKE A DIME FOR BASEBALL

All teams contribute.  Your Yankee-centric view of the world doesn't allow you to see that. NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEES OR RED SOX, METS, AND OTHER BIG MARKET TEAM YOU CAN'T PRODUCE MORE CASH THEN THEM.

FREE INTERPRISE THEY COULD DO IT IF THEY WANTED TO PLACE A TEAM IN JAPAN

Not if the NPL refused.  MLB has power over themselves and that is all.  Certainly not over the NPL.
But we don't have to worry about that.  It ain't ever gonna happen.IT S GOING TO HAPPEN IT WILL HAPPEN MLB WILL BE IN JAPAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD IN 20 OR SO YEARS IT GOING TO WAS DO MLB HAVE THE WBC THEY ARE TESTING FOR EXPANTION TO OTHER COUNTRYS. THEY JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR TRAVEL. THEY MIGHT EVEN MERGE WITH OTHER LEAGUES IN OTHER COUNTRYS OR EVEN BUY LEAGUES IN JAPAN. YOU WILL SEE MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM'S ALL ACCROSS EUROPE, THE MID EAST, SOME PARTS OF AFRICA, ASIA EVEN IN LATIN AMERICAN LIKE BARZILL. CANANA JUST IS COLD SO UNLESS YOU GET IN DOORS OR A ELECTRONIC ROOF IT MAKES NO SENSE BUT CANADA WILL GET TEAMS SOONER OR LATER


WHEN THAT HAPPENS GUESS WHAT THAT MORE PLAYOFF SPOTS NEEDED.  I CAN SEE A TIME WERE YOU HAVE TWO COMPLETE SETS OF PLAYOFFS MEAN FOUR LEAGUES. THE AMERICAN LEAGUE, NATIONAL LEAGUE ON ASIAN-AUSTRLAIN LEAGUE TWO SINCE THEY ARE CLOSE MATCHING WITH THE EUROPE MID EAST TEAM LEAGUE IT WILL HAPPEN WITH BASKETBALL ALSO.    YANKEES MADE 200 MILLION OVER SEA'S LAST YEAR 200 MILLION DOLLARS I CAN ONLY THINK IF THEY HAD A TEAM OVER SEA'S AND WHO SAY THE TEAM'S.  

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

Wake up.  They have REAL professional teams. NOT MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAMS NOT AT ALL LIKE I SAID YANKEE PLACED IN A LEAGUE IN JAPAN WOULD CRUSH EVERY SINGLE TEAM THEY HAVE IT BE LIKE PUTTING THE YANKEES MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM IN THE MINORS LEAGUES AS IS.

NOT LOOK IT UP IT BETWEEN BOSTON AND NEW YORK.

Not true.  I have given you links to support this but you keep flapping your gums about it's yankee this and yankee that.  I gave you links to prove it.  All you have is your hot air.   FORBES BUDDY FORBES BUDDY THEY WOULD KNOW BETTER THEN YOU THEY SAID YANKEES ARE THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAM IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW
In fact, it is quite possible that right now the Mariners could be the most popular team in Japan. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER. THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN ONCE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEE NICK NAMED GODZILLA LOL I DON'T GET THAT GODZILLA WAS A GIRL LAST I KNEW.

THE TWO MOST POPULAR TEAM'S IN THE WORLD FROM THE UNITED STATES REPEAT THE NEW YORK YANKEES

Not in Japan. JAPAN ALSO        LAKERS ARE HUGE IN JAPAN HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IN JAPAN. BASKETBALL IS HUGE IN JAPAN.

R WITH THE LA LAKERS

Nobody cares about the Lakers even here in THIS country.  It's all about Kobe.  Not the team.  That's the NBA for you. LAKERS ARE AN HISTORIC TEAM WITH AN HISTORICE COACH AND COUNTLESS HISTORIC PLAYERS.                  BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED AND WON WITH THE LAKERS. PAST AND PRESENT

NO AS GOOD AS THE YANKEES OVERALL

It's better.  Last year's Yankee overnight locals were in the low 30's. PLEASE BIGGER POPULATION WAY BIGGER POPULATION. THAT 30'S IS BIGGER THEN YOUR 40 BY FAR.

SO WHAT TRUE FAN'S WATCH IT

They won't for long.  If the numbers keep dipping.  Well, at least have to get cable to...LOL LET FACE IT GIANT STUNK IN THE RATING. YANKEES PHILLIES HIGHEST IN YEARS.

WRONG THE RATING SHOW MORE INTEREST IN THE YANKEES

Not so.  The ratings show it doesn't matter.   No one cares about baseball.  It's why half the LCS has been placed on such an irrelevant cable station as TBS.  A channel known for Andy Griffith reruns.  Soon, you won't see the LCS on over the air TV at all...  That is NOT a good thing for baseball. WELL SO FOX WON'T BUY IT. THEN IT WILL JUST GO ON ESPN LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND LOOK AT THE YANKEES RATINGS

Yeah.  I did.  Four times they were the lowest ratings to date.  You keep ignoring this...NOT LAST SEASON RATING WERE HUGE IF THE YANKEES AND PHILLIES MET AGAIN THE RATING WOULD BE EVEN BIGGER. NO WE HAD SOME CRAPPY MATCHUP FROM THE WEST THAT NO ONE EAST EVEN GAVE A DAMN ABOUT THAT IS WHAT IS UP.

PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE YANKEES

Nobody outside of the Tri State area cares about the Yankees.  In fact, the rest of the country is sick of the Yankees.  It's part of the reason MLB ratings have been sliding downward for the last 25 years. YANKEES RATINGS STAYED ON LEVEL THEY DO WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE MOST PROFITABLE TV CHANNEL IN AMERICA.                  RATINGS MEAN CASH.  YANKEES WILL ALWAYS BE SUCCESSFUL NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE THE MOST POPULAR AMERICAN SPORTS TEAM IN AMERICA

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RANGER OR THE GIANT THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE CLUBS.

And yet, those "junk pile" clubs each finished first and each won pennants.  Neither of which your expensive Yankees were able to do.  You are just a hater. YANKEES WIN A LOT THEY HAVE PENNANTS ON TOP OF PENNANTS ON TOP OF PENNANTS.

LOOK MAN SOME AREAS JUST DON'T SELL STRAIGHT UP

There aren't many markets that don't support baseball when they think their team will compete.  I can only think of two.  And both are in the State of Florida.  Both those teams should move.  But other markets have proved they will get support if they can legitimately compete on a regular basis.  Sadly, that will not happen until there is a salary cap combined with media revenue sharing. YOU WANT IT ALL YO DON'T YOU. YOU HAVE TAKE FROM THE RICH GIVE TO THE RICH PLAN. TELL THE OWNERS TO FORK UP MORE MONEY OR SELL TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES. PIRATES BEEN BAD FOR YEAR ONCE WERE GOOD THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE YANKEES YOUR DREAMING ON EVERYTHING.   I WOULD GIVE A 10 YEAR PLAN IF YOU AN OWNER AND DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IN 10 YEARS YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP THE TEAM FOR GOOD.



Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
 MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM. DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL.. HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT SO IT REALLY A WASH RUN'S ARE WHAT IMPORTANT.  BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING HE WOULD HAVE MORE HITS. STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ALL I NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT. YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN. IF DEREK JETER PLAYED IN THE WEAK WEST AWAY FROM THE RED SOX AND OTHER GOOD TEAM THE NUMBER WOULD BE EVEN MORE SIMILAR/
LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.

I don't know what sport you are talking about.  But in baseball you don't hit runs.

MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM.

You mean like World Series rings?

DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL..

Actually, they do control that.  It shows how much they play each year.  The more AB's the more you are in the line up.  Both hit at the top of the order so all things being equal they should have similar AB's.  Yet Ichiro comes up with many more.  He even has more plate appearances.

HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

They ARE a big deal.  In fact, Ichiro set a record for most hits in a single season.  Jeter has never come close.

REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT

The runs are more a function of the hitters behind them.  They can get on base, but if no one brings them in, they have no control.  And the Yankys spend way more money on it than the M's do.  So it stands to reason that Jeter would score more.  Yet the difference isn't as profound as one would expect considering all that...

BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO

Irrelevant.  He doesn't.  Let's not work with "ifs".

WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING

To some extent.  With a big offense you can get more AB's.  But since the Yankees have the better hitters around Jeter, one would think it would benefit him.  Yet it doesn't.  It also measures how often a player is in the game.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

If he could, he would.  You would rather have a runner at first than runners at first AND 2nd?   If so, you are truly nuts. LOL A-ROD WITH ONE SWING CAN GET DEREK JETER IN FROM FIRST. MARK WITH ONE SWING CAN GET YOU IN WITH ONE SWING.   ONE THING YOU DON'T DO IS RISK OUTS WITH SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BECOME THE HOME RUN KING ON BASE AND MARK WHO RIGHT NOW IS A BETTER HOME RUN HITTER THEN A-ROD. THEN YOU HAVE CANO CANO THAT DUDE IS GOOD YOU DON'T RISK OUT WITH THEM ON BASE EVEN THE BEST BASE STEALERS GET OUT.

YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN.

That changes every year.  For example, in 2009, the AL west was the superior division.  Can't use that one. NOT ONLY IN YOUR DREAM'S. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES AND THE RED SOX WERE BETTER THE THE NEXT BEST TEAM THEY WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES THEMSELVES. LOL. TAMPA BAY WASN'T A PUSH OVER AND JAY'S AREN'T EITHER. YOUR CRAZY TO THINK THE AL WEST WAS BETTER THEN THE EAST PUT THE YANKEES IN THE WEST THEY WOULD DESTROY THOSE POOR TEAMS.
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LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.

I don't know what sport you are talking about.  But in baseball you don't hit runs. WELL JETER HAS A BETTER RBI AVERAGE ALSO THE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT. HE HAS MORE RUN SO HIS TEAM IS BETTER AT GETTING HIM.

MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM.

You mean like World Series rings? RINGS THAT DEREK JETER HELP EARN NOT LIKE HE DIDN'T PLAY ANY GAMES IN THE POST SEASON. YOUR JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE ONE GUY HAS AS MANY WORLD SERIES AS YOUR WHO FRANSHICE

DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL..

Actually, they do control that.  It shows how much they play each year.  The more AB's the more you are in the line up. MANY TIMES IN THE YEAR THE YANKEES HAVE A BLOW OUT THEY TAKE JETER OUT EARLY MANY TIMES IN THE 7TH INNING THAT DOESN'T TAKE AT BATS. IF A TEAM IS WINNING BIG WHY SHOULD THEY KEEP THE PLAYERS IN THE LINEUP.  Both hit at the top of the order so all things being equal they should have similar AB's. BUT  Yet Ichiro comes up with many more.  He even has more plate appearances.

HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

They ARE a big deal.  In fact, Ichiro set a record for most hits in a single season.  I DON'T CARE IF HE HAS THE WORLD RECORD THAT MEAN'S NOTHING TO ME. Jeter has never come close.

REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT

The runs are more a function of the hitters behind them. SOOOOOOOOOO IT MEAN'S HE BETTER AT SCORING RUNNERS ON BASE THE  Ichiro Suzuki  They can get on base, but if no one brings them in, they have no control.  And the Yankys spend way more money on it than the M's do.  So it stands to reason that Jeter would score more.  Yet the difference isn't as profound as one would expect considering all that...

BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO

Irrelevant.  He doesn't.  Let's not work with "ifs".

WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING

To some extent.  With a big offense you can get more AB's.  But since the Yankees have the better hitters around Jeter, one would think it would benefit him.  Yet it doesn't.  It also measures how often a player is in the game.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

If he could, he would.  You would rather have a runner at first than runners at first AND 2nd?   If so, you are truly nuts.

YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN.

That changes every year.  For example, in 2009, the AL west was the superior division.  Can't use that one.

And please, stop with the "ifs".  You don't know that and it doesn't support your case.



NOT YOUR JUST AN PHONY HATER YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. DEREK

I don't have to know him.  I am just looking at the numbers.  They tell the story.

The most important numbers as you can see Derek Jeter better in if you have him hit in the Mariners ball park he would have more hits

Not true.  Yankee Stadium has always been a far more offensive field than SafeCo.  If Jeter played in Seattle his numbers would decrease some and Ichiro's would be better.

Here are the averages per season for both...   I do this rather than totals because Jeter played 6 years in the Majors while Ichiro was playing in NPL.  I could include that if you want to even things up...  But I don't think you really want that...

Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.)
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
Jeter BA .314
Ichiro BA .331
Jeter avg grounding into DP's 17
Ichiro avg grounding into DP's 5



RBI'S AVG DEREK JETER

Jeter does have him on extra base hits.  But a lot of that is a stadium factor where the ball just doesn't fly in Seattle.  Also, Ichiro's batting style is not to hit homers.HE A SLAP HITTER THAT ALL HE IS. DEREK ISN'T AN HOMERUN HITTER EITHER. LOOK NO ONE IN YANKEE HISTORY HIT 3000 HITS IN YANKEE STADIUM TELLS ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUILDING IT SELF It's to get on base and create havoc on the basepaths.  Also, Jeter beats him in average 2B's and HR's.  But Ichiro beats him in 3B's. WELL DEREK JETER HAS MORE 4 BASEHIT THAT BRING THAT TO A WASH.   Owning to his speed that Jeter wishes he had. WELL WITH WHAT JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES THAT WHAT ICHIRO WISH HE HAS AN HE WILL NEVER HAVE 5 WORLD SERIES.

HE CLUTCH IN THE POST SEASON

"Clutch" cannot be measured.  It is the refuge of fools.HELPING A TEAM WHEN IT MEAN'S THE MOST THAT WHAT IT MEAN.   WHAT TIME YOU HIT IS MOST IMPORTANT 3 RUN'S DOWN IN THE 9TH YOU HIT A GRAND SLAM CLUTCH. IF YOU ARE UP 7 RUN'S AND HIT A GRAND SLAM NOT CLUTCH STRAIGHT UP.

BOND'S IS A COMPLETE CHEATING LOSER HIS NAME DOESN'T BELONG WITH ANYONE

He never cheated.  Jerk, perhaps.  But not a cheater.STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS HE A CHEATER.  He earned his top spot on the HR list.  CHEATING You are just a hater.  You were probably pissed that Aaron took the record away from Ruth. IM 29 I WAS NEVER AROUND WHEN THAT WAS BROKEN RECORDS ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN BUT NOT LIKE BONDS DID CHEATING.

MARINERS HAD GOOD TEAM'S IN THE PAST THEY HAD A-ROD

One guy doesn't make a team.  In fact, the Mariners were actually better without him.KG JR THE BIG UNIT BLAH BLAH BLAH.

DON'T PUT BOND'S WITH JORDAN PLEASE HE NOT WORTHY.

Bonds is to baseball what Jordan was to basketball.  Deal with it. WRONG THAT BELONGS TO BABE RUTH. HE IS NOT THE JORDAN OF BASEBALL HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHAMPIONSHIPS. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WAIT HE HAS NONE JORDAN HAS 6 AND IN DOMINATING FASTION. BABE HAS 7 WORLD SERIES. BUT IT ALL GOOD YOU CAN THINK YOUR LITTLE JUICED GIANT IS IN THE CLASS OF MICHAEL JORDAN OR TIGER WOOD NOOOOO WAY.  STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS.

HOW DEREK JETER NEVER MISSES GAMES. BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

He's missed games.  More than Ichiro, that's for sure. WELL YANKEES ARE A SMART TEAM THEY GIVE PLAYERS REST FROM TIME TO TIME. THEY HAVE THE PLAYERS HIT WHEN A BLOWOUT HAPPENED. Jeter is at best a slightly above average SS.  He was never an elite fielder.  But Ichiro is an elite outfielder. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A BETTER FIELDER TO BE A SHORT STOP BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE NO GOOD ANYTHING REALLY BUT A FEW PITCHERS THATS ABOUT IT. He has the speed to patrol the spacious OF of SafeCo.  YANKEES IS NOT A SMALL PARK REALLY IT IS BIGGER THEN ANY BALL PARK IT A STADIUM. And he has a cannot for an arm that few ever even test any more. WELL JETER HAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE ARMS EVERY FOR A SHORT STOP. WELL HE USED TO. Jeter couldn't throw anyone out from deep right. DON'T KNOW HE NEVER HAD TO TRY HE WAS A SHORT STOP YOU NEVER KNOW. It's why he plays SS BESIDES PITCHER AND CATCHER THE MOST IMPORTANT POSTION IN BASEBALL MORE IMPORTANT THEN OUTFIELDERS THEY ARE A DIME A DOZEN YOU CAN'T FIND GOOD INFIELDER ALL OVER THE PLACE. so he only has to make the short throw. WELL A SHORT BIG THROW.

NPB NUMBER MINOR LEAGUE YOU CAN'T COUNT THEM

I said it may not be fair..  However...  Many felt their pitchers were comparable to Major League pitching. NOT REALLY  So he was getting a lot of hits off quality arms.  Look at all the Japanese arms that have headed over to the states...   Plus, the feat is all the more remarkable considering that the NPL plays about 135 games a season.IF YOU TAKE SAY THE YANKEES TEAM AN ALL AND PLAY JAPAN FOR A SEASON I WOULD PROMISE YOU THE YANKEES WOULD DESTROY EVERY SINGLE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN. I WOULDN'T EVEN BE CLOSE. YOU CAN COMPARE THE PITCHING IT WAY BETTER IN THE UNITED STATES.

SO YOU ADD JETERS HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS MINOR LEAGUE

Even you can't be stupid enough to think of the NPL on par with high school ball... AA-AAA A BALL IT NOT AS GOOD AS THE MAJOR LEAGUES NOT AT ALL.    Are you?

IF IT SO GOOOD WHY DOES EVERY PLAYER WANNA COME TO THE UNITED STATES.

What do you mean?  Players come to the States for two reasons.  They can make more here and the best players from the rest of the world all come here. ONLY CRAPPY PLAYERS FROM THE US GO TO JAPAN A LOT OF PLAYERS FROM THE US PLAY IN JAPAN NO HALL OF FAMERS ONLY WAY THAT WOULD HAPPEN HAVE A REAL MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN.

HALLLLL OF FAME GROUP BOND'S HANGS WITH THEM

You mean guys like his Godfather Willie freakin' Mays?MICHAEL JORDAN IS A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THEN MAYES IS A BASEBALL PLAYER.

HE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS AS JORDAN OR WOODS

No.  He's not.  Because as far as we know, he didn't cheat on his wives with hundreds of women and he isn't a degenerate gambler.BONDS DIDN'T CHEAT ON HIS WIFE BULL SHIT HE ISN'T AN SAINT.  All he did was take stuff that he felt would help him recover from his multitude of injuries faster. THAT GAVE HIM MORE POWER AT AN OLDER AGE TO HIT MORE HOMERUN'S.           THE BODY IS A CRAZY THING ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN AGE YOU BODY JUST GOES DOWN HILL UNLESS YOU USE SOME KIND OF DRUG THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MAINTAIN THE SAME SHAPE. WHY BODY BUILDERS USE IT. That is hardly cheating.BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES. IT'S A LEVEL THREE DRUG YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.  BET NOT LOOK IT UP. Not by ANY definition.

BASEBALL IS STILL BIG IN NEW YORK WITH 2 TEAM'S,

Correction.  The Yankees are big in New York. MET SELL 3-4 MILLION SEATS EVERY YEAR SO THEY GET THERES Baseball isn't.  Just as the Cubs are big in Chicago.  But baseball isn't.  People in Boston will tune in for the Sox, but they will ignore a late season game with division winning implications between the Rangers and Angels.  This is true across the US.

TEAM'S LIKE THE GIANT, PIRATES AND OTHER TEAM'S DON'T MAKE A DIME FOR BASEBALL

All teams contribute.  Your Yankee-centric view of the world doesn't allow you to see that. NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEES OR RED SOX, METS, AND OTHER BIG MARKET TEAM YOU CAN'T PRODUCE MORE CASH THEN THEM.

FREE INTERPRISE THEY COULD DO IT IF THEY WANTED TO PLACE A TEAM IN JAPAN

Not if the NPL refused.  MLB has power over themselves and that is all.  Certainly not over the NPL.
But we don't have to worry about that.  It ain't ever gonna happen.IT S GOING TO HAPPEN IT WILL HAPPEN MLB WILL BE IN JAPAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD IN 20 OR SO YEARS IT GOING TO WAS DO MLB HAVE THE WBC THEY ARE TESTING FOR EXPANTION TO OTHER COUNTRYS. THEY JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR TRAVEL. THEY MIGHT EVEN MERGE WITH OTHER LEAGUES IN OTHER COUNTRYS OR EVEN BUY LEAGUES IN JAPAN. YOU WILL SEE MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM'S ALL ACCROSS EUROPE, THE MID EAST, SOME PARTS OF AFRICA, ASIA EVEN IN LATIN AMERICAN LIKE BARZILL. CANANA JUST IS COLD SO UNLESS YOU GET IN DOORS OR A ELECTRONIC ROOF IT MAKES NO SENSE BUT CANADA WILL GET TEAMS SOONER OR LATER


WHEN THAT HAPPENS GUESS WHAT THAT MORE PLAYOFF SPOTS NEEDED.  I CAN SEE A TIME WERE YOU HAVE TWO COMPLETE SETS OF PLAYOFFS MEAN FOUR LEAGUES. THE AMERICAN LEAGUE, NATIONAL LEAGUE ON ASIAN-AUSTRLAIN LEAGUE TWO SINCE THEY ARE CLOSE MATCHING WITH THE EUROPE MID EAST TEAM LEAGUE IT WILL HAPPEN WITH BASKETBALL ALSO.    YANKEES MADE 200 MILLION OVER SEA'S LAST YEAR 200 MILLION DOLLARS I CAN ONLY THINK IF THEY HAD A TEAM OVER SEA'S AND WHO SAY THE TEAM'S.  

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

Wake up.  They have REAL professional teams. NOT MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAMS NOT AT ALL LIKE I SAID YANKEE PLACED IN A LEAGUE IN JAPAN WOULD CRUSH EVERY SINGLE TEAM THEY HAVE IT BE LIKE PUTTING THE YANKEES MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM IN THE MINORS LEAGUES AS IS.

NOT LOOK IT UP IT BETWEEN BOSTON AND NEW YORK.

Not true.  I have given you links to support this but you keep flapping your gums about it's yankee this and yankee that.  I gave you links to prove it.  All you have is your hot air.   FORBES BUDDY FORBES BUDDY THEY WOULD KNOW BETTER THEN YOU THEY SAID YANKEES ARE THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAM IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW
In fact, it is quite possible that right now the Mariners could be the most popular team in Japan. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER. THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN ONCE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEE NICK NAMED GODZILLA LOL I DON'T GET THAT GODZILLA WAS A GIRL LAST I KNEW.

THE TWO MOST POPULAR TEAM'S IN THE WORLD FROM THE UNITED STATES REPEAT THE NEW YORK YANKEES

Not in Japan. JAPAN ALSO        LAKERS ARE HUGE IN JAPAN HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IN JAPAN. BASKETBALL IS HUGE IN JAPAN.

R WITH THE LA LAKERS

Nobody cares about the Lakers even here in THIS country.  It's all about Kobe.  Not the team.  That's the NBA for you. LAKERS ARE AN HISTORIC TEAM WITH AN HISTORICE COACH AND COUNTLESS HISTORIC PLAYERS.                  BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED AND WON WITH THE LAKERS. PAST AND PRESENT

NO AS GOOD AS THE YANKEES OVERALL

It's better.  Last year's Yankee overnight locals were in the low 30's. PLEASE BIGGER POPULATION WAY BIGGER POPULATION. THAT 30'S IS BIGGER THEN YOUR 40 BY FAR.

SO WHAT TRUE FAN'S WATCH IT

They won't for long.  If the numbers keep dipping.  Well, at least have to get cable to...LOL LET FACE IT GIANT STUNK IN THE RATING. YANKEES PHILLIES HIGHEST IN YEARS.

WRONG THE RATING SHOW MORE INTEREST IN THE YANKEES

Not so.  The ratings show it doesn't matter.   No one cares about baseball.  It's why half the LCS has been placed on such an irrelevant cable station as TBS.  A channel known for Andy Griffith reruns.  Soon, you won't see the LCS on over the air TV at all...  That is NOT a good thing for baseball. WELL SO FOX WON'T BUY IT. THEN IT WILL JUST GO ON ESPN LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND LOOK AT THE YANKEES RATINGS

Yeah.  I did.  Four times they were the lowest ratings to date.  You keep ignoring this...NOT LAST SEASON RATING WERE HUGE IF THE YANKEES AND PHILLIES MET AGAIN THE RATING WOULD BE EVEN BIGGER. NO WE HAD SOME CRAPPY MATCHUP FROM THE WEST THAT NO ONE EAST EVEN GAVE A DAMN ABOUT THAT IS WHAT IS UP.

PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE YANKEES

Nobody outside of the Tri State area cares about the Yankees.  In fact, the rest of the country is sick of the Yankees.  It's part of the reason MLB ratings have been sliding downward for the last 25 years. YANKEES RATINGS STAYED ON LEVEL THEY DO WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE MOST PROFITABLE TV CHANNEL IN AMERICA.                  RATINGS MEAN CASH.  YANKEES WILL ALWAYS BE SUCCESSFUL NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE THE MOST POPULAR AMERICAN SPORTS TEAM IN AMERICA

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RANGER OR THE GIANT THEY ARE PART OF THE JUNK PILE CLUBS.

And yet, those "junk pile" clubs each finished first and each won pennants.  Neither of which your expensive Yankees were able to do.  You are just a hater. YANKEES WIN A LOT THEY HAVE PENNANTS ON TOP OF PENNANTS ON TOP OF PENNANTS.

LOOK MAN SOME AREAS JUST DON'T SELL STRAIGHT UP

There aren't many markets that don't support baseball when they think their team will compete.  I can only think of two.  And both are in the State of Florida.  Both those teams should move.  But other markets have proved they will get support if they can legitimately compete on a regular basis.  Sadly, that will not happen until there is a salary cap combined with media revenue sharing. YOU WANT IT ALL YO DON'T YOU. YOU HAVE TAKE FROM THE RICH GIVE TO THE RICH PLAN. TELL THE OWNERS TO FORK UP MORE MONEY OR SELL TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES. PIRATES BEEN BAD FOR YEAR ONCE WERE GOOD THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE YANKEES YOUR DREAMING ON EVERYTHING.   I WOULD GIVE A 10 YEAR PLAN IF YOU AN OWNER AND DON'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS IN 10 YEARS YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP THE TEAM FOR GOOD.



Jeter Avg AB's  658
Ichiro Avg AB's 692
Jeter avg hits 207
Ichiro avg hits 229
Jeter avg runs 119
Ichiro avg runs 107 (playing with a far less expensive line up means fewer guys to knock him in, btw.LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.
Jeter avg SB 23
Ichiro avg SB 39
 MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM. DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL.. HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT SO IT REALLY A WASH RUN'S ARE WHAT IMPORTANT.  BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING HE WOULD HAVE MORE HITS. STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ALL I NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT. YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN. IF DEREK JETER PLAYED IN THE WEAK WEST AWAY FROM THE RED SOX AND OTHER GOOD TEAM THE NUMBER WOULD BE EVEN MORE SIMILAR/
LOOK AT THE AT BATS AND REALIZE HIM HITTING THAT MANY RUN'S WITH LESS AT BATS IS AMAZING.

I don't know what sport you are talking about.  But in baseball you don't hit runs.

MOST OF THOSE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TEAM.

You mean like World Series rings?

DEREK JETER OR ICHIRO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY AT BATS THEY GET NOT ALL..

Actually, they do control that.  It shows how much they play each year.  The more AB's the more you are in the line up.  Both hit at the top of the order so all things being equal they should have similar AB's.  Yet Ichiro comes up with many more.  He even has more plate appearances.

HITS ARE ALMOST CLOSE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

They ARE a big deal.  In fact, Ichiro set a record for most hits in a single season.  Jeter has never come close.

REALLY THE RUNS MAKE UP FOR IT

The runs are more a function of the hitters behind them.  They can get on base, but if no one brings them in, they have no control.  And the Yankys spend way more money on it than the M's do.  So it stands to reason that Jeter would score more.  Yet the difference isn't as profound as one would expect considering all that...

BUT IF DEREK HAD AS MANY AT BAT AS ICHRO

Irrelevant.  He doesn't.  Let's not work with "ifs".

WHICH AT BATS ARE A TEAM THING

To some extent.  With a big offense you can get more AB's.  But since the Yankees have the better hitters around Jeter, one would think it would benefit him.  Yet it doesn't.  It also measures how often a player is in the game.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

If he could, he would.  You would rather have a runner at first than runners at first AND 2nd?   If so, you are truly nuts. LOL A-ROD WITH ONE SWING CAN GET DEREK JETER IN FROM FIRST. MARK WITH ONE SWING CAN GET YOU IN WITH ONE SWING.   ONE THING YOU DON'T DO IS RISK OUTS WITH SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BECOME THE HOME RUN KING ON BASE AND MARK WHO RIGHT NOW IS A BETTER HOME RUN HITTER THEN A-ROD. THEN YOU HAVE CANO CANO THAT DUDE IS GOOD YOU DON'T RISK OUT WITH THEM ON BASE EVEN THE BEST BASE STEALERS GET OUT.

YANKEE PLAY IS A MUCH HARDER DIVISION THEN ICHIRO TO PLAY IN.

That changes every year.  For example, in 2009, the AL west was the superior division.  Can't use that one. NOT ONLY IN YOUR DREAM'S. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES AND THE RED SOX WERE BETTER THE THE NEXT BEST TEAM THEY WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES THEMSELVES. LOL. TAMPA BAY WASN'T A PUSH OVER AND JAY'S AREN'T EITHER. YOUR CRAZY TO THINK THE AL WEST WAS BETTER THEN THE EAST PUT THE YANKEES IN THE WEST THEY WOULD DESTROY THOSE POOR TEAMS.
WELL JETER HAS A BETTER RBI AVERAGE ALSO THE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT.

There is no "most important stat".  All stats work to give you the bigger picture.  Further, Ichiro hits leadoff giving him fewer RBI opportunities.  Further still, his job is not to drive in runs.  But to score them.

HE HAS MORE RUN SO HIS TEAM IS BETTER AT GETTING HIM.

I mentioned this already.  You realize that it doesn't support your take, it actually supports mine, right?

RINGS THAT DEREK JETER HELP EARN NOT LIKE HE DIDN'T PLAY ANY GAMES IN THE POST SEASON.

He was part of the bigger picture.  But he himself didn't win them.  Titles are a team thing.  I thought we were talking about individuals.  Also, the Giants have more World Series wins than Jeter personally has.  That's not bad considering that most of the time the Giants payroll was less than Jeter has made in some entire seasons.

MANY TIMES IN THE YEAR THE YANKEES HAVE A BLOW OUT THEY TAKE JETER OUT EARLY

Hmm...  So he must not be a very good short stop.

I DON'T CARE IF HE HAS THE WORLD RECORD THAT MEAN'S NOTHING TO ME.

Of course not.  You don't care about the facts that show you to be wrong.  It is your S.O.P.

SOOOOOOOOOO IT MEAN'S HE BETTER AT SCORING RUNNERS ON BASE THE 

Let me help improve your baseball knowledge.  When you cause someone to score, as you described in your above comment, it is call a Run Batted In.  Or RBI.  Not a run.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

Yes.  I am.  If those guys wanted to win, they would actually tell him to take off if he felt he had a lead.  Bonds told the guys ahead of him to run even if he were at the plate all the time knowing he would get walked.  It put the team in a better scoring situation. 

DEREK ISN'T AN HOMERUN HITTER EITHER.

But he has more home runs because of the short "my grandma could hit a homer there" porch at Yanky Stadium.  You like dealing in "ifs".  If Suzuki were a Yanky, he would have at least as many taters.  SafeCo is where triples go to die.  It's one of the reasons Griffy Jr wanted to leave. 

LOOK NO ONE IN YANKEE HISTORY HIT 3000 HITS IN YANKEE STADIUM TELLS ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUILDING IT SELF

That tells me nothing about the building.  It does tell me that no Yanky ever played long enough to amass it.

WELL WITH WHAT JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES THAT WHAT ICHIRO WISH HE HAS AN HE WILL NEVER HAVE 5 WORLD SERIES.

Why do you keep running to that?   That has nothing to do with the player.  It has everything to do with the team.

HELPING A TEAM WHEN IT MEAN'S THE MOST THAT WHAT IT MEAN.   WHAT TIME YOU HIT IS MOST IMPORTANT 3 RUN'S DOWN IN THE 9TH YOU HIT A GRAND SLAM CLUTCH. IF YOU ARE UP 7 RUN'S AND HIT A GRAND SLAM NOT CLUTCH STRAIGHT UP.

You have a definition.  But it is a subjective one.  And it still cannot be measured.  It is just something you FEEL.

STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS HE A CHEATER.

Steroids do not make one a cheater.

KG JR THE BIG UNIT BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I repeat.  The Mariners as a team performed better without Rodriguez.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHAMPIONSHIPS.

It's not about titles.  It's about skill.  In basketball, one great player can win titles for you.  In baseball, that cannot happen.

BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

Not necessarily.  This isn't high school anymore.  It is likely Jeter doesn't have the speed or the arm to adequately play any outfield spot.

YANKEES ARE A SMART TEAM THEY GIVE PLAYERS REST FROM TIME TO TIME.

All teams do that, pal.

BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A BETTER FIELDER TO BE A SHORT STOP

In little league, sure.  But not in the big leagues.

WELL JETER HAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE ARMS EVERY FOR A SHORT STOP. WELL HE USED TO.

No.  He was never anything more than adequate.  Perhaps slightly above average at best.  He didn't suck.  But he wasn't one of the best.

NOT REALLY

Wrong.  The consensus was their pitching could be good enough for the majors, but few felt their position players could succeed here.  He was the first position player to come.  He opened the door for all the others. 

I WOULD PROMISE YOU THE YANKEES WOULD DESTROY EVERY SINGLE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN.

They would probably win, but they win a lot here too.  And it has to do with how much they spend.  Why not use a more mediocre team as your example?   Good God, what a imbecilic example.

MICHAEL JORDAN IS A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THEN MAYES IS A BASEBALL PLAYER.

Some would debate that.  There are many who feel Mays is the greatest ever.  I personally don't agree, but they make valid arguments that are hard to ignore.  I would say that Gretzky was a better hockey player than Mays was a baseball player.  But it is pretty close...

.BONDS DIDN'T CHEAT ON HIS WIFE BULL SHIT HE ISN'T AN SAINT.

Neither you nor I know it.  It's possible, but it never came out in the press.  So it is pure speculation on your part.

THAT GAVE HIM MORE POWER AT AN OLDER AGE TO HIT MORE HOMERUN'S.

No evidence supports that.  That thinking is the logic of the mindless mob.  Not people who reason.

BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

They aren't banned in the United States. It is a controlled substance.  Not a banned one.

NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEES OR RED SOX, METS, AND OTHER BIG MARKET TEAM YOU CAN'T PRODUCE MORE CASH THEN THEM.

But that is not what you claimed.  You claimed those other teams didn't make ten cents.  Your words.  Now you are going back on what you said?
Further, it doesn't matter.  If the high revenue teams didn't have anyone to play, MLB would be pretty darn dull with only 6 teams.

.IT S GOING TO HAPPEN IT WILL HAPPEN MLB WILL BE IN JAPAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD IN 20 OR SO

Sure.  And I'm going to win the lottery in 20 years or so too.

THEY ARE TESTING FOR EXPANTION TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Links please?  Because I know they are not even thinking about expansion these days.  Don't confuse baseball camps or supporting foreign programs with expansion.  That is not what they are about.

THEY JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR TRAVEL.

Super.  Then all we have to do is wait about 160 years for Emery Erikson to invent the transporter!

THEY MIGHT EVEN MERGE WITH OTHER LEAGUES IN OTHER COUNTRYS OR EVEN BUY LEAGUES IN JAPAN.

Why would they do that?  The highest level non US baseball league out there is the NBL.  Perhaps the Korean league is up there too.  But you earlier compared the NBL to low level minors.

BUT CANADA WILL GET TEAMS SOONER OR LATER

Last time I checked, Toronto was the largest city in Canada.

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

I would think a Japanese fan would be offended at your arrogant comment.

FORBES BUDDY FORBES BUDDY THEY WOULD KNOW BETTER THEN YOU THEY SAID YANKEES ARE THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAM IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW

And yet you provide no link.  Guess what?  You are still full of hot air.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER.

Suzuki is still the most popular player.  He still has the larger Japanese media posse.

JAPAN ALSO

Would be nice if you proved it.  They don't even give a crap about basketball in Japan.  There are more hockey players in the Japan than basketballers.

LAKERS ARE AN HISTORIC TEAM WITH AN HISTORICE COACH AND COUNTLESS HISTORIC PLAYERS.

People don't remember the Lakers.  They remember Magic and Kobe.  Like I said, the NBA is all about the individual.  Not the team.

BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED AND WON WITH THE LAKERS. PAST AND PRESENT

I don't recall Oscar Robinson or Michael Jordan playing for the Lakers....  But then, I could be mistaken.  No one remembers the teams.  Only the players.

THAT 30'S IS BIGGER THEN YOUR 40 BY FAR.

I guess only in your world is 30 bigger than 40!  lolololol!

YANKEES PHILLIES HIGHEST IN YEARS.

Highest in 4 years.  BFD.  You know twice nothing is still nothing.  You also keep forgetting that there were four Yanky WS that had the lowest ratings to date.  Why do I have to keep reminding you of that?

THEN IT WILL JUST GO ON ESPN LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

Then why didn't the post season go to ESPN?  They didn't even want it.  They went to TBS fer cryin' out loud!

.NOT LAST SEASON RATING WERE HUGE

Hardly.  They were a mere 1 point higher than just 2 years before.  That is not a substantial increase.

NO WE HAD SOME CRAPPY MATCHUP FROM THE WEST

You mean like that crappy Yankee-Mets series that had the lowest ratings ever at the time?

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE MOST PROFITABLE TV CHANNEL IN AMERICA

Because the Yankees play in the biggest media market in the country.  The most people are there.  Take YES out of New York and put in LA with the same programing and it becomes utterly worthless because no one outside of the tri state area cares about the yankies.

RATINGS MEAN CASH.

Exactly.  And the national ratings SUCK.

YANKEES WIN A LOT

Not last year.

YOU WANT IT ALL YO DON'T YOU.

Within reason, sure.

YOU HAVE TAKE FROM THE RICH GIVE TO THE RICH PLAN.

No, I have a "let's make baseball more competitive so more fans will get into it so it can make more money" plan.

TELL THE OWNERS TO FORK UP MORE MONEY OR SELL TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES.

Where will the money come from?  Not all teams have access to the New York market, you know.

NOT ONLY IN YOUR DREAM'S. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES AND THE RED SOX WERE BETTER THE THE NEXT BEST TEAM THEY WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES THEMSELVES.

That's not how you compare.  You have to look at ALL teams together.  Not just 1 against 1, 2 against 2, etc.  But even if you did, the AL West of 2009 would still come out on top.  Their worst team was better than the the bottom 2 in the AL East.  And their best teams were very near the top of the AL.  Overall making that division the most difficult in the Majors that season.

TAMPA BAY WASN'T A PUSH OVER AND JAY'S AREN'T EITHER

In 2009 the Rays were less than mediocre and the Jays were even worse.  And the O's...  The crap team of the American League.  They alone were why the Yankees won as many games as they did.  No AL west team had a whipping boy like that to pad their records.
Only one AL West team was under .500.  And they were still 11 games better than the worst of the East.  It really was no contest.


Final note...  When I spell check about 98% of the errors are from YOUR quotes.  Try spell checking more often.
Babe Ruth  
#102 | 1431 days ago

I love seeing the agruements here it makes me laugh. I want to get involve but it makes me laugh. You know MVP award is to honor "the baseball player who is of the greatest all-around service to his club". Making the play offs would not be the point for the simple reason up to 1960 only the top team went to the series there was no playoffs. After that 2 teams from each league then in 1994 the crap we have now 4 teams each league. Said that voters don't like to vote for player who did not make the playoffs, most of the voters have decided who they will vote for before the season over. Jeter vs Ichiro hahahahahah Jeter is the better SS not sure if he would be better in the OF maybe. Hitter I love seeing what you write.  BTW 1 man can not win it all in basketball, before you say Jordon, remember Jordon had a great cast and he said it to Phil and the media before they won their last championship. you have to resign Rodman because with out him we will not win. In no team sport can one person win a championship by himself,  he will always have a supporting cast. must have balls to live in NY love that one, hahahahahahahahaha
Babe Ruth  
#103 | 1431 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
I love seeing the agruements here it makes me laugh. I want to get involve but it makes me laugh. You know MVP award is to honor "the baseball player who is of the greatest all-around service to his club". Making the play offs would not be the point for the simple reason up to 1960 only the top team went to the series there was no playoffs. After that 2 teams from each league then in 1994 the crap we have now 4 teams each league. Said that voters don't like to vote for player who did not make the playoffs, most of the voters have decided who they will vote for before the season over. Jeter vs Ichiro hahahahahah Jeter is the better SS not sure if he would be better in the OF maybe. Hitter I love seeing what you write.  BTW 1 man can not win it all in basketball, before you say Jordon, remember Jordon had a great cast and he said it to Phil and the media before they won their last championship. you have to resign Rodman because with out him we will not win. In no team sport can one person win a championship by himself,  he will always have a supporting cast. must have balls to live in NY love that one, hahahahahahahahaha
I don't need anything from a fan of a team who is so bad they had to change everything but one think that needs to be changed. THE OWNERS OF THE METS SUCK THEY NEED CHANGED. THEN TAKE THE VALUABLE OUT ITS NOT MOST VALUABLE PLAYER NOT AT ALL. ENOUGH OF THIS MVP STUFF the award can be a joke as all other award are. The one real award is the World Series.  If the playoffs were like the past the Yankees would have over 30 World Series by now. They would crush the NL team like nothing. With extra playoff series it helps the league by not having the Yankees bloody everyone every single year. As for Jeter they put the weaker fielders outword. LOOK AT A-ROD HE HAS A CANNON FOR AN ARM HE COULD PLAY ANY POSTION IN BASEBALL IN MY VIEW. I'M THE BIGGEST JORDAN FAN EVERY DON'T TELL ME ABOUT JORDAN. Basketball takes a real team to be good. As you see in South Beach you can put all the best players in the world together doesn't mean a thing.  
Babe Ruth  
#104 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
I love seeing the agruements here it makes me laugh. I want to get involve but it makes me laugh. You know MVP award is to honor "the baseball player who is of the greatest all-around service to his club". Making the play offs would not be the point for the simple reason up to 1960 only the top team went to the series there was no playoffs. After that 2 teams from each league then in 1994 the crap we have now 4 teams each league. Said that voters don't like to vote for player who did not make the playoffs, most of the voters have decided who they will vote for before the season over. Jeter vs Ichiro hahahahahah Jeter is the better SS not sure if he would be better in the OF maybe. Hitter I love seeing what you write.  BTW 1 man can not win it all in basketball, before you say Jordon, remember Jordon had a great cast and he said it to Phil and the media before they won their last championship. you have to resign Rodman because with out him we will not win. In no team sport can one person win a championship by himself,  he will always have a supporting cast. must have balls to live in NY love that one, hahahahahahahahaha
Laughing is the only reason I am even replying to that guy.  He is the most entertaining part of this site.  I actually look forward to his next set of inane and contradictory rantings.

BTW...  The LCS didn't happen until 1968.  Just wanted to clear that up.  

I agree with you about the crap MLB post season we have now.  It is part of why MLB 's popularity is dropping.

I disagree about basketball.  With so few players out there, one guy can make a tremendous different.  No one remembers who else played with Jordan.  It was all about Jordan.  Yes, there are 4 other players out there because there HAS to be.  Even Jordan couldn't score if it were 5 on 1.  He's good but he's not THAT good.  Put Jordan on a team with adequate guys and they win.  The Bulls did it year after year.
Babe Ruth  
#105 | 1430 days ago

hahaha that is the best you got to say the  owners of the METS suck and we change everything but 1 really thats what you went withhahahahahahahahaha.I been around long enough to see the Yankees have their ups and downs and they would not win every year.  They may have over 30 championships, you have 27 now what 3 more. Hell you been in the playoffs enough times you should have them. I would say many other teams would have more too but they don't. When you spend to get the best talent you are going to win more and be in the chase more often. Does not mean you will win as it has been proven in the past. The Yankees are not killing teams now or running away with anything. Watch as the Yankees start to slide down the hill, George is not there to buy the best player anymore.  Did you really say they put the weaker player in the outfield, hahahaha stupid you picked Ruth as the best player in this survey, where did he played? Manlte, Williams???? Yeah you are lost but you make it funny to read. Jordan what do you know about him really????   Takes a real team to be good are you serious??????  South Beach lol at the end of the year see where they are, again as you said regular season means nothing as long as they make the playoffs, the Heat will be there. extra playoffs does not help my league, 1) I do not own the league 2) I cannot stand DS. Besides the DH and interleague play I abhor it the most. Let the Yankees come to NL and they would be beaten like any other team no way would they go around crushing teams. Your points here have been sad in logic, but very entertaining to say the least.
Babe Ruth  
#106 | 1430 days ago

ML31 wrote:
WELL JETER HAS A BETTER RBI AVERAGE ALSO THE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT.

There is no "most important stat".  All stats work to give you the bigger picture.  Further, Ichiro hits leadoff giving him fewer RBI opportunities.  Further still, his job is not to drive in runs.  But to score them.

HE HAS MORE RUN SO HIS TEAM IS BETTER AT GETTING HIM.

I mentioned this already.  You realize that it doesn't support your take, it actually supports mine, right?

RINGS THAT DEREK JETER HELP EARN NOT LIKE HE DIDN'T PLAY ANY GAMES IN THE POST SEASON.

He was part of the bigger picture.  But he himself didn't win them.  Titles are a team thing.  I thought we were talking about individuals.  Also, the Giants have more World Series wins than Jeter personally has.  That's not bad considering that most of the time the Giants payroll was less than Jeter has made in some entire seasons.

MANY TIMES IN THE YEAR THE YANKEES HAVE A BLOW OUT THEY TAKE JETER OUT EARLY

Hmm...  So he must not be a very good short stop.

I DON'T CARE IF HE HAS THE WORLD RECORD THAT MEAN'S NOTHING TO ME.

Of course not.  You don't care about the facts that show you to be wrong.  It is your S.O.P.

SOOOOOOOOOO IT MEAN'S HE BETTER AT SCORING RUNNERS ON BASE THE 

Let me help improve your baseball knowledge.  When you cause someone to score, as you described in your above comment, it is call a Run Batted In.  Or RBI.  Not a run.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

Yes.  I am.  If those guys wanted to win, they would actually tell him to take off if he felt he had a lead.  Bonds told the guys ahead of him to run even if he were at the plate all the time knowing he would get walked.  It put the team in a better scoring situation. 

DEREK ISN'T AN HOMERUN HITTER EITHER.

But he has more home runs because of the short "my grandma could hit a homer there" porch at Yanky Stadium.  You like dealing in "ifs".  If Suzuki were a Yanky, he would have at least as many taters.  SafeCo is where triples go to die.  It's one of the reasons Griffy Jr wanted to leave. 

LOOK NO ONE IN YANKEE HISTORY HIT 3000 HITS IN YANKEE STADIUM TELLS ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUILDING IT SELF

That tells me nothing about the building.  It does tell me that no Yanky ever played long enough to amass it.

WELL WITH WHAT JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES THAT WHAT ICHIRO WISH HE HAS AN HE WILL NEVER HAVE 5 WORLD SERIES.

Why do you keep running to that?   That has nothing to do with the player.  It has everything to do with the team.

HELPING A TEAM WHEN IT MEAN'S THE MOST THAT WHAT IT MEAN.   WHAT TIME YOU HIT IS MOST IMPORTANT 3 RUN'S DOWN IN THE 9TH YOU HIT A GRAND SLAM CLUTCH. IF YOU ARE UP 7 RUN'S AND HIT A GRAND SLAM NOT CLUTCH STRAIGHT UP.

You have a definition.  But it is a subjective one.  And it still cannot be measured.  It is just something you FEEL.

STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS HE A CHEATER.

Steroids do not make one a cheater.

KG JR THE BIG UNIT BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I repeat.  The Mariners as a team performed better without Rodriguez.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHAMPIONSHIPS.

It's not about titles.  It's about skill.  In basketball, one great player can win titles for you.  In baseball, that cannot happen.

BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

Not necessarily.  This isn't high school anymore.  It is likely Jeter doesn't have the speed or the arm to adequately play any outfield spot.

YANKEES ARE A SMART TEAM THEY GIVE PLAYERS REST FROM TIME TO TIME.

All teams do that, pal.

BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A BETTER FIELDER TO BE A SHORT STOP

In little league, sure.  But not in the big leagues.

WELL JETER HAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE ARMS EVERY FOR A SHORT STOP. WELL HE USED TO.

No.  He was never anything more than adequate.  Perhaps slightly above average at best.  He didn't suck.  But he wasn't one of the best.

NOT REALLY

Wrong.  The consensus was their pitching could be good enough for the majors, but few felt their position players could succeed here.  He was the first position player to come.  He opened the door for all the others. 

I WOULD PROMISE YOU THE YANKEES WOULD DESTROY EVERY SINGLE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN.

They would probably win, but they win a lot here too.  And it has to do with how much they spend.  Why not use a more mediocre team as your example?   Good God, what a imbecilic example.

MICHAEL JORDAN IS A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THEN MAYES IS A BASEBALL PLAYER.

Some would debate that.  There are many who feel Mays is the greatest ever.  I personally don't agree, but they make valid arguments that are hard to ignore.  I would say that Gretzky was a better hockey player than Mays was a baseball player.  But it is pretty close...

.BONDS DIDN'T CHEAT ON HIS WIFE BULL SHIT HE ISN'T AN SAINT.

Neither you nor I know it.  It's possible, but it never came out in the press.  So it is pure speculation on your part.

THAT GAVE HIM MORE POWER AT AN OLDER AGE TO HIT MORE HOMERUN'S.

No evidence supports that.  That thinking is the logic of the mindless mob.  Not people who reason.

BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

They aren't banned in the United States. It is a controlled substance.  Not a banned one.

NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEES OR RED SOX, METS, AND OTHER BIG MARKET TEAM YOU CAN'T PRODUCE MORE CASH THEN THEM.

But that is not what you claimed.  You claimed those other teams didn't make ten cents.  Your words.  Now you are going back on what you said?
Further, it doesn't matter.  If the high revenue teams didn't have anyone to play, MLB would be pretty darn dull with only 6 teams.

.IT S GOING TO HAPPEN IT WILL HAPPEN MLB WILL BE IN JAPAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD IN 20 OR SO

Sure.  And I'm going to win the lottery in 20 years or so too.

THEY ARE TESTING FOR EXPANTION TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Links please?  Because I know they are not even thinking about expansion these days.  Don't confuse baseball camps or supporting foreign programs with expansion.  That is not what they are about.

THEY JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR TRAVEL.

Super.  Then all we have to do is wait about 160 years for Emery Erikson to invent the transporter!

THEY MIGHT EVEN MERGE WITH OTHER LEAGUES IN OTHER COUNTRYS OR EVEN BUY LEAGUES IN JAPAN.

Why would they do that?  The highest level non US baseball league out there is the NBL.  Perhaps the Korean league is up there too.  But you earlier compared the NBL to low level minors.

BUT CANADA WILL GET TEAMS SOONER OR LATER

Last time I checked, Toronto was the largest city in Canada.

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

I would think a Japanese fan would be offended at your arrogant comment.

FORBES BUDDY FORBES BUDDY THEY WOULD KNOW BETTER THEN YOU THEY SAID YANKEES ARE THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAM IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW

And yet you provide no link.  Guess what?  You are still full of hot air.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER.

Suzuki is still the most popular player.  He still has the larger Japanese media posse.

JAPAN ALSO

Would be nice if you proved it.  They don't even give a crap about basketball in Japan.  There are more hockey players in the Japan than basketballers.

LAKERS ARE AN HISTORIC TEAM WITH AN HISTORICE COACH AND COUNTLESS HISTORIC PLAYERS.

People don't remember the Lakers.  They remember Magic and Kobe.  Like I said, the NBA is all about the individual.  Not the team.

BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED AND WON WITH THE LAKERS. PAST AND PRESENT

I don't recall Oscar Robinson or Michael Jordan playing for the Lakers....  But then, I could be mistaken.  No one remembers the teams.  Only the players.

THAT 30'S IS BIGGER THEN YOUR 40 BY FAR.

I guess only in your world is 30 bigger than 40!  lolololol!

YANKEES PHILLIES HIGHEST IN YEARS.

Highest in 4 years.  BFD.  You know twice nothing is still nothing.  You also keep forgetting that there were four Yanky WS that had the lowest ratings to date.  Why do I have to keep reminding you of that?

THEN IT WILL JUST GO ON ESPN LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

Then why didn't the post season go to ESPN?  They didn't even want it.  They went to TBS fer cryin' out loud!

.NOT LAST SEASON RATING WERE HUGE

Hardly.  They were a mere 1 point higher than just 2 years before.  That is not a substantial increase.

NO WE HAD SOME CRAPPY MATCHUP FROM THE WEST

You mean like that crappy Yankee-Mets series that had the lowest ratings ever at the time?

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE MOST PROFITABLE TV CHANNEL IN AMERICA

Because the Yankees play in the biggest media market in the country.  The most people are there.  Take YES out of New York and put in LA with the same programing and it becomes utterly worthless because no one outside of the tri state area cares about the yankies.

RATINGS MEAN CASH.

Exactly.  And the national ratings SUCK.

YANKEES WIN A LOT

Not last year.

YOU WANT IT ALL YO DON'T YOU.

Within reason, sure.

YOU HAVE TAKE FROM THE RICH GIVE TO THE RICH PLAN.

No, I have a "let's make baseball more competitive so more fans will get into it so it can make more money" plan.

TELL THE OWNERS TO FORK UP MORE MONEY OR SELL TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES.

Where will the money come from?  Not all teams have access to the New York market, you know.

NOT ONLY IN YOUR DREAM'S. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES AND THE RED SOX WERE BETTER THE THE NEXT BEST TEAM THEY WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES THEMSELVES.

That's not how you compare.  You have to look at ALL teams together.  Not just 1 against 1, 2 against 2, etc.  But even if you did, the AL West of 2009 would still come out on top.  Their worst team was better than the the bottom 2 in the AL East.  And their best teams were very near the top of the AL.  Overall making that division the most difficult in the Majors that season.

TAMPA BAY WASN'T A PUSH OVER AND JAY'S AREN'T EITHER

In 2009 the Rays were less than mediocre and the Jays were even worse.  And the O's...  The crap team of the American League.  They alone were why the Yankees won as many games as they did.  No AL west team had a whipping boy like that to pad their records.
Only one AL West team was under .500.  And they were still 11 games better than the worst of the East.  It really was no contest.


Final note...  When I spell check about 98% of the errors are from YOUR quotes.  Try spell checking more often.
WELL JETER HAS A BETTER RBI AVERAGE ALSO THE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT.

There is no "most important stat".  All stats work to give you the bigger picture.  Further, Ichiro hits leadoff giving him fewer RBI opportunities.  Further still, his job is not to drive in runs.  But to score them. YOUR ONLY LEAD OFF FOR THE MOST PART ONCE A GAME AFTER THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO AFTER WHILE YOU HAVE TO DRIVE RUN'S IN. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT LOL GO FIGURE.

HE HAS MORE RUNs SO HIS TEAM IS BETTER AT GETTING HIM.

I mentioned this already.  You realize that it doesn't support your take, it actually supports mine, right?

RINGS THAT DEREK JETER HELP EARN NOT LIKE HE DIDN'T PLAY ANY GAMES IN THE POST SEASON.

He was part of the bigger picture.  But he himself didn't win them. HE HELP WIN THEM LOL  Titles are a team thing. TITLES ARE A TEAM THING THAT TAKE INDIVUALS TO COMPLETE INCLUDING DEREK JETER YOU NEED PLAYERS TO WIN TITLES. I thought we were talking about individuals.  TITLES IN AN INDIVIDUAL THING ALSO. Also, the Giants have more World Series wins than Jeter personally has.  That's not bad considering that most of the time the Giants payroll was less than Jeter has made in some entire seasons. BAD IF IT TAKES 50+ YEAR TO WIN SOMETHING A TEAM WHO LAST WON WERE DEREK JETER WON HIS 5 RINGS WELL SAME CITY.

MANY TIMES IN THE YEAR THE YANKEES HAVE A BLOW OUT THEY TAKE JETER OUT EARLY

Hmm...  So he must not be a very good short stop.YANKEES HAVE A 10-2 LEAD THEY ARE TAKING OUT THE KEY PLAYERS AROUND THE 7TH INNING TO GIVE THE KEY PLAYERS A BREAK STRAIGHT UP YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU TEAM DOESN'T GET BIG LEADS. THAT AROUND TWO AT BATS TAKEN RIGHT THERE AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT. THAT ADDS UP DURING 162 GAME SEASON WHEN IT COMES TO AT BATS. AT BATS ARE A PRODUCT OF YOUR TEAM GETTING THROUGH THE ORDER ANYWAYS.

I DON'T CARE IF HE HAS THE WORLD RECORD THAT MEAN'S NOTHING TO ME. WELL DEREK JETER HAS WORLD SERIES RECORDS........REPEAT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MOST HITS AMONG OTHER RECORDS MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN A HIT RECORD IN THE REGULAR SEASON. BUT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MEAN NOTHING. OH THIS IS NOT PLAYOFF RECORDS BUT WOOOOOOORLD SERIES RECORD SO DON'T PUT THE EXTRA GAMES TO PLAY BECAUSE HE DONE IT IN THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME THE WORLD SERIES AMONG OTHER RECORDS MORE IMPORTANT NUMBERS.

Of course not.  You don't care about the facts that show you to be wrong.  It is your S.O.P.

SOOOOOOOOOO IT MEAN'S HE BETTER AT SCORING RUNNERS ON BASE THE

Let me help improve your baseball knowledge.  When you cause someone to score, as you described in your above comment, it is call a Run Batted In.  Or RBI.  Not a run. DA UNLESS IT IS A HOME RUN THEN YOUR RUN WITHIN THE RBI.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

Yes.  I am.  If those guys wanted to win, they would actually tell him to take off if he felt he had a lead.  Bonds told the guys ahead of him to run even if he were at the plate all the time knowing he would get walked.  IF HE HAS A GOOD SHOT AT STEALING HE IS GOING DEREK JETER HAS NO CHAIN'S HE CAN GO WHEN EVER HE WANTS TOO. It put the team in a better scoring situation. HOME RUN'S IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. YANKEES SCORE THE MOST RUN'S YEAR AFTER YEAR SO THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING CORRECT SINCE THEY SCORE MORE RUN'S THEN EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL.;

DEREK ISN'T AN HOMERUN HITTER EITHER.

But he has more home runs because of the short "my grandma could hit a homer there" porch at Yanky Stadium. IT NOT THAT EASY OR DEREK JETER WOULD HAVE 3O HOME RUN'S THE MYTH IS YANKEE STADIUM IS AN EASY PARK TO HIT HOME RUN'S IN. ONLY ONE PERSON I SEE MAKE IT LOOK EASY A-ROD BUT A-ROD A MONSTER ANYWAYS. You like dealing in "ifs".  If Suzuki were a Yanky, he would have at least as many taters.   SafeCo is where triples go to die. YANKEE STADIUM ISN'T THAT BAD A PARK TO GET TRIPLES IN ITS NOT THAT SMALL OF A PLACE. It's one of the reasons Griffy Jr wanted to leave.

LOOK NO ONE IN YANKEE HISTORY HIT 3000 HITS IN YANKEE STADIUM TELLS ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUILDING IT SELF

That tells me nothing about the building.  It does tell me that no Yanky ever played long enough to amass it. WELL STILL NEVER BEEN DONE IN THE VAST HISTORY OF THE YANKEES.

WELL WITH WHAT JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES THAT WHAT ICHIRO WISH HE HAS AN HE WILL NEVER HAVE 5 WORLD SERIES.

Why do you keep running to that?   That has nothing to do with the player. SO TAKE THE PLAYERS OF THE FIELD AND LET THE OWNERS PLAY. THE PLAYERS DON'T PITCH THEY DON'T HIT THE HOME RUN'S THEY DON'T THROW THE DOUBLE PLAYS STRAIGHT UP DUDE. DEREK JETER HIT SOME GAME WINNING HITS IN THE PLAYOFFS SO HE DOES HAVE A BIG PART IN WINNING WORLD SERIES PLUS THE MOST HITS EVER.  It has everything to do with the team. DA WHAT IS A TEAM ITS A GROUP OF PLAYERS DAAAAAAAAA DUDE

HELPING A TEAM WHEN IT MEAN'S THE MOST THAT WHAT IT MEAN.   WHAT TIME YOU HIT IS MOST IMPORTANT 3 RUN'S DOWN IN THE 9TH YOU HIT A GRAND SLAM CLUTCH. IF YOU ARE UP 7 RUN'S AND HIT A GRAND SLAM NOT CLUTCH STRAIGHT UP.

You have a definition.  But it is a subjective one.  And it still cannot be measured.  It is just something you FEEL. CLUTCH DOING SOMETHING GREAT WHEN IT IS NEEDED OR MOST IMPORTANT.

STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS HE A CHEATER.

Steroids do not make one a cheater. LOL WRONG I TOOK THEM THEY MAD ME STRONGER AND BETTER AT WHAT I WAS DOING STRAIGHT UP.

KG JR THE BIG UNIT BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I repeat.  The Mariners as a team performed better without Rodriguez. THINGS WOULD BE BETTER TODAY IF A-ROD WAS STILL A PLAYER FOR THE MARINERS.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHAMPIONSHIPS.

It's not about titles. THAT WHAT PLAYERS PLAY FOR It's about skill.  In basketball, one great player can win titles for you. IT AS MUCH A TEAM SPORT IF NOT MORE THEN BASEBALL CAN EVER BE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. In baseball, that cannot happen. WELL BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES.

BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

Not necessarily.  This isn't high school anymore.  It is likely Jeter doesn't have the speed or the arm to adequately play any outfield spot. WHEN JETER WAS YOUNGER HE WAS FAST HE COULD OF PLAYED OUTFIELD. OH FAST I SEEN BIG LUGS IN LEFT FIELD ALL THE TIME MANNY FASTER THEN JETER NAAAA DON'T THINK SO. BOND'S NOPE. JETER HAS SPEED HE CAN BE AN OUTFIELD BUT SHORTSTOP IS A MORE IMPORTANT POSTION. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

YANKEES ARE A SMART TEAM THEY GIVE PLAYERS REST FROM TIME TO TIME.

All teams do that, pal. WELL I SEE THAT ISUKI PLAY 162 GAMES NOT SMART EVEN FOR HIM. YOU NEED TO GET A REST FROM TIME TO TIME WHAT EVER YOU DO.

BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A BETTER FIELDER TO BE A SHORT STOP

In little league, sure.  But not in the big leagues.LITTLE LEAGUES BIG LEAGUES SAME RULES ARE STILL FOLLOWED THE MOST IMPORTANT FIELDERS ARE ON THE INFIELD THEN YOU HAVE CENTERFIELDER THEN YOU HAVE THE LEFT AND RIGHT FIELDERS.

WELL JETER HAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE ARMS EVERY FOR A SHORT STOP. WELL HE USED TO.

No.  He was never anything more than adequate.   ADEQUATE IS ALL YOU REALLY NEED. IF YOU TRY TO DO TOO MUCH THAT HOW YOU GET ERRORS. WINNING BASEBALL PLAYERS KNOW DON'T TRY TO BE TOO FLASHY. YANKEES MAKE FEWER ERRORS THEN MOST OTHER TEAMS. ERRORS KILL TEAMS. Perhaps slightly above average at best.  He didn't suck.  But he wasn't one of the best. WELL HE DIDN'T NEED TO BE MORE THEN WHAT HE WAS. HE AS A GOOD PLAYER THAT ALL THE YANKEES NEEDED AN THEY WON LIKE THAT.

NOT REALLY

Wrong.  The consensus was their pitching could be good enough for the majors, but few felt their position players could succeed here.  He was the first position player to come.  He opened the door for all the others. WELL BUT HE ISN'T THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN THE MATSUI HE IS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN THE STATS. FOLLOW THE YANKEES AND YOU CAN LEARN MORE. 12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH MATSUI WIN THE WORLD SERIES MVP HE IS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WELL HE WAS IN THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW NOW.

I WOULD PROMISE YOU THE YANKEES WOULD DESTROY EVERY SINGLE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN.

They would probably win, but they win a lot here too.  And it has to do with how much they spend.  Why not use a more mediocre team as your example?   I BET SOMEONE LIKE THE BLUE JAY'S COULD WIN IN JAPAN A LOT. A TEAM LIKE THE MET'S. A TEAM LIKE THE CUBS NEED ANYMORE. THE TEAM'S THEY HAVE ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THE UNITED STATES TEAM. ROYALS AND PIRATES WOULD BE BETTER OFF IN JAPAN. Good God, what a imbecilic example.

MICHAEL JORDAN IS A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THEN MAYES IS A BASEBALL PLAYER.

Some would debate that.  There are many who feel Mays is the greatest ever. FOOL IT RUTH BY FAR.  I personally don't agree, but they make valid arguments that are hard to ignore.  I would say that Gretzky was a better hockey player than Mays was a baseball player.  But it is pretty close... I DON'T FOLLOW HOCKEY SO I DON'T CARE.

.BONDS DIDN'T CHEAT ON HIS WIFE BULL SHIT HE ISN'T AN SAINT.

Neither you nor I know it.  It's possible, but it never came out in the press.  So it is pure speculation on your part. DEREK JETER IS SMART NEVER GOT MARRIED SO HE CAN DO WHAT EVERY HE WANTS ATHLETES SHOULD NEVER GET MARRIED MOST CHEAT. AS FOR THE CARD GAMES ALL PLAYERS GAMBLE THEY DO. WHEN BOND'S PLAYING GOLF WITH JORDAN OR EVEN TIGER THOUGH BOTH WOULD NEED 100 STROKE LEAD WITH HIM THEY DON'T BET. LOL THEY ALL DO.

THAT GAVE HIM MORE POWER AT AN OLDER AGE TO HIT MORE HOMERUN'S.

No evidence supports that. WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THEY ARE AN VITAMIN C PILL THAT DOES NOTHING AT ALL BUT PLAYER PAY 5000 FOR VITAMIN C LOL WOW. GET A CLUE LOL. That thinking is the logic of the mindless mob.  Not people who reason. LOL THEY HELP..

BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

They aren't banned in the United States. It is a controlled substance.  Not a banned one. THE STUFF THE PLAYERS TAKE ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES SOME STUFF IS LAWFUL BUT NOT WHAT BASEBALL PLAYERS TAKE.

NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEES OR RED SOX, METS, AND OTHER BIG MARKET TEAM YOU CAN'T PRODUCE MORE CASH THEN THEM.

But that is not what you claimed.  You claimed those other teams didn't make ten cents.  Your words.  Now you are going back on what you said? LOL WHEN THEY SAY A PLAYER HIT A MOON SHOT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HIT THE MOON IT MEAN'S THEY HIT THE BALL FAR.
Further, it doesn't matter.  If the high revenue teams didn't have anyone to play, MLB would be pretty darn dull with only 6 teams.

.IT S GOING TO HAPPEN IT WILL HAPPEN MLB WILL BE IN JAPAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD IN 20 OR SO

Sure.  And I'm going to win the lottery in 20 years or so too. BUD ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TEAMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS HE SAID IN 14 YEARS HE HOPE IT WILL HAPPEN NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM NOT.

THEY ARE TESTING FOR EXPANTION TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Links please?  BUD SAID IT IN MANY INTERVIEWS HE WANT TO OPEN THE MARKETS TO OTHER COUNTRYS. IT WILL HAPPEN AS SOON AS LOGITIC HAPPEN THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH. Because I know they are not even thinking about expansion these days. NOOO REAL PROFESSIONAL MAJOR LEAGUE TEAMS  Don't confuse baseball camps or supporting foreign programs with expansion. NOOO REAL PROFESSIONAL MAJOR LEAGUE TEAMS   That is not what they are about. IT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I SEE THE FUTURE UNLIKE YOU.

THEY JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR TRAVEL.

Super.  Then all we have to do is wait about 160 years for Emery Erikson to invent the transporter! LOL THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE THE ONE TEAM IN ONE THE SAME AREAS THEN YOU FACE THE AMERICAN TEAM MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR AND IN THE PLAYOFFS. WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE GAMES EVERY SO OFTEN IN JAPAN DURING SPRING TRAINING. JAPAN LOVES AMERICAN BASEBALL.

THEY MIGHT EVEN MERGE WITH OTHER LEAGUES IN OTHER COUNTRYS OR EVEN BUY LEAGUES IN JAPAN.

Why would they do that?  The highest level non US baseball league out there is the NBL.  Perhaps the Korean league is up there too.  But you earlier compared the NBL to low level minors. THEY WOULD BE STILL AA TO AAA AT BEST THEY ARE NOT THE MAJORS DON'T MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE NOT.

BUT CANADA WILL GET TEAMS SOONER OR LATER

Last time I checked, Toronto was the largest city in Canada. WELL YOU SEE HOW IT IS WORKING FOR THE BLUE JAYS.

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

I would think a Japanese fan would be offended at your arrogant comment. LOL MAJOR LEAGUE JERSEYS AND OTHER THINGS SELL HIGH IN JAPAN.

FORBES BUDDY FORBES BUDDY THEY WOULD KNOW BETTER THEN YOU THEY SAID YANKEES ARE THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAM IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW

And yet you provide no link.  Guess what?  You are still full of hot air. YOU HAVE TO PAY TO LOOK AT THE ARTICAL IT WAS ONCE FREE IM NOT PAYING FOR SHIT AND UNLIKE YOU I DON'T GO TO OTHER BULLSHIP SITES. STRAIGHT UP

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER.

Suzuki is still the most popular player.  He still has the larger Japanese media posse. MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WHEN HE BECAME THE YANKEES. LOL

JAPAN ALSO

Would be nice if you proved it.  They don't even give a crap about basketball in Japan. WRONG LA HAS A HUGE MARKET IN JAPAN. KOBE IS HUGH IN JAPAN.  There are more hockey players in the Japan than basketballers. BASKETBALL PLAYERS IT NOT SOCCER DUDE BASKETBALLERS.

LAKERS ARE AN HISTORIC TEAM WITH AN HISTORICE COACH AND COUNTLESS HISTORIC PLAYERS.

People don't remember the Lakers.  They remember Magic and Kobe.  Like I said, the NBA is all about the individual.  Not the team.WRONG

BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED AND WON WITH THE LAKERS. PAST AND PRESENT

I don't recall Oscar Robinson or Michael Jordan playing for the Lakers.... SHOULD SAY SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER TO TAKE WHAT I SAY WORD FOR WORD WHICH IS STUPID. LIKE THE GIANTS DOESN'T MAKE ANY MONEY. THE MEAN'S NO AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE NOT REALLY MEANING THEY MAKE NO MONEY. But then, I could be mistaken.  No one remembers the teams.  Only the players. GOLD AND PURPLE ALL THE WAY. YOU DON'T WATCH BASKETBALL YOU HAVE NO IDEA.



YANKEES PHILLIES HIGHEST IN YEARS.

Highest in 4 years.  BFD.  You know twice nothing is still nothing.  You also keep forgetting that there were four Yanky WS that had the lowest ratings to date.  Why do I have to keep reminding you of that?SMOKED THE GIANTS AND RANGERS. SMOOOOOOOOOOKED THEM

THEN IT WILL JUST GO ON ESPN LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

Then why didn't the post season go to ESPN?  They didn't even want it.  They went to TBS fer cryin' out loud! TBS IS A NATIONAL NETWORK IN A LOT OF AREAS MANY AREAS IT IS NOT.

.NOT LAST SEASON RATING WERE HUGE

Hardly.  They were a mere 1 point higher than just 2 years before.  That is not a substantial increase. BLEW THE CURRENT WORLD SERIES RATING TO SHAME.LOL OVER SEAS THEY SCORED HUGH 12 MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN ALONE.

NO WE HAD SOME CRAPPY MATCHUP FROM THE WEST

You mean like that crappy Yankee-Mets series that had the lowest ratings ever at the time? STILL BET WORLD SERIES THEN THE LAST ONE THAT NO ONE WATCHED.

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE MOST PROFITABLE TV CHANNEL IN AMERICA

Because the Yankees play in the biggest media market in the country.  The most people are there.  Take YES out of New York and put in LA with the same programing and it becomes utterly worthless because no one outside of the tri state area cares about the yankies. I SAY YOUR WRONG MORE FAN'S OUTSIDE THE MARKET THEN FAN'S OF THE GIANT'S I PROMISE THAT. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

RATINGS MEAN CASH.

Exactly.  And the national ratings SUCK. THEY WERE NOT THAT BAD YANKEES AND PHILLIES DREW LARGE THE LAST GAME IN TODAYS AGE BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

YANKEES WIN A LOT

Not last year.95 WINS AND MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

YOU WANT IT ALL YO DON'T YOU.

Within reason, sure.

YOU HAVE TAKE FROM THE RICH GIVE TO THE RICH PLAN.

No, I have a "let's make baseball more competitive so more fans will get into it so it can make more money" plan.

TELL THE OWNERS TO FORK UP MORE MONEY OR SELL TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES.

Where will the money come from?  Not all teams have access to the New York market, you know. YOU WANT THE YANKEES TO SHARE SOME OF THE YES NETWORK WITH OTHER TEAM'S IN BASEBALL STUPID THEY DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY. YOU WANT YANKEES TO GIVE MONEY TO OTHER TEAM'S WHAT DO THE YANKEES GET OUT OF IT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT FAIR FOR THE MOST POPULAR TEAM IN THE SPORT STRAIGHT UP.

NOT ONLY IN YOUR DREAM'S. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES AND THE RED SOX WERE BETTER THE THE NEXT BEST TEAM THEY WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES THEMSELVES.

That's not how you compare.  You have to look at ALL teams together.  Not just 1 against 1, 2 against 2, etc.  But even if you did, the AL West of 2009 would still come out on top. NOOOOOOO NOT AT ALL YOU HAVE TO FIGURE HOW GOOD WOULD YOUR DIVISON BE IF YOU HAD TO FACE THE RED SOX AND YANKEES UP TOO 19 GAMES A YEAR. Their worst team was better than the the bottom 2 in the AL East.  NAnd their best teams were very near the top of the AL.  Overall making that division the most difficult in the Majors that season.

TAMPA BAY WASN'T A PUSH OVER AND JAY'S AREN'T EITHER

In 2009 the Rays were less than mediocre and the Jays were even worse.  And the O's...  The crap team of the American League.  They alone were why the Yankees won as many games as they did.  No AL west team had a whipping boy like that to pad their records. NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION THE YANKEES PLAYED IN MANY TEAMS WOULD BE THE YANKEES WHIPPING BOYS STRAIGHT UP. GIANTS WOULD GET CRUSHED 18-19 GAMES A SEASON CRUSHED.
Only one AL West team was under .500.  And they were still 11 games better than the worst of the East.  It really was no contest.  EVERY PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PERSON KNOWS THE HARDEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL IS THE AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST 2008-2009-2010 JUST BECAUSE THE YANKEES, RED, RAY. FACT IF THE BLUE JAY WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION LAST YEAR THEY MIGHT OF MADE THE PLAYOFFS. NO WAY THE WEST IS BETTER THEN THE EAST IN BOTH LEAGUES.    YOUR JUST A HATER AND DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH.
Babe Ruth  
#107 | 1430 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Laughing is the only reason I am even replying to that guy.  He is the most entertaining part of this site.  I actually look forward to his next set of inane and contradictory rantings.

BTW...  The LCS didn't happen until 1968.  Just wanted to clear that up.  

I agree with you about the crap MLB post season we have now.  It is part of why MLB 's popularity is dropping.

I disagree about basketball.  With so few players out there, one guy can make a tremendous different.  No one remembers who else played with Jordan.  It was all about Jordan.  Yes, there are 4 other players out there because there HAS to be.  Even Jordan couldn't score if it were 5 on 1.  He's good but he's not THAT good.  Put Jordan on a team with adequate guys and they win.  The Bulls did it year after year.

Scottie Pippen

FOOL  IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER HIM YOU NEVER WATCHED BASKETBALL...            WHY DO YOU TWO CARE ABOUT THE POST SEASON YOUR TEAM'S DON'T MAKE IT HOW CAN YOUR TWO MET AND GIANT FANS CARE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT RARELY HAPPENS.
Babe Ruth  
#108 | 1430 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Laughing is the only reason I am even replying to that guy.  He is the most entertaining part of this site.  I actually look forward to his next set of inane and contradictory rantings.

BTW...  The LCS didn't happen until 1968.  Just wanted to clear that up.  

I agree with you about the crap MLB post season we have now.  It is part of why MLB 's popularity is dropping.

I disagree about basketball.  With so few players out there, one guy can make a tremendous different.  No one remembers who else played with Jordan.  It was all about Jordan.  Yes, there are 4 other players out there because there HAS to be.  Even Jordan couldn't score if it were 5 on 1.  He's good but he's not THAT good.  Put Jordan on a team with adequate guys and they win.  The Bulls did it year after year.
I agree with you,  he is the most enteraining one on this site with those crazy rants. Yes it was 1969 the first year, was laughing to much when I typed. Bulls come now Jordan came into the league in '84 but did not win till '91  If he did not have Grant, Paxson, Pippen, Cartwright with him they would not have won the 1st three. Did not say he did not make a difference but the Bulls did not win year after year till Collins coached. Yes the Bulls continued it. Jordan playing playing for another team gives them a shot but does not mean they would win. It is true that people do not remember who played with Jordan if they really did not follow basketball. Just like baseball if you watch the games you get to know the players and who they played for and if you are die hard fan could say how they ended on a certian team. Just like the Lakers of the '80s if you only know Magic I would say you were not really a fan of basketball, or the Lakers. The Celtics same thing,
Babe Ruth  
#109 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
hahaha that is the best you got to say the  owners of the METS suck and we change everything but 1 really thats what you went withhahahahahahahahaha.I been around long enough to see the Yankees have their ups and downs and they would not win every year.  They may have over 30 championships, you have 27 now what 3 more. Hell you been in the playoffs enough times you should have them. I would say many other teams would have more too but they don't. When you spend to get the best talent you are going to win more and be in the chase more often. Does not mean you will win as it has been proven in the past. The Yankees are not killing teams now or running away with anything. Watch as the Yankees start to slide down the hill, George is not there to buy the best player anymore.  Did you really say they put the weaker player in the outfield, hahahaha stupid you picked Ruth as the best player in this survey, where did he played? Manlte, Williams???? Yeah you are lost but you make it funny to read. Jordan what do you know about him really????   Takes a real team to be good are you serious??????  South Beach lol at the end of the year see where they are, again as you said regular season means nothing as long as they make the playoffs, the Heat will be there. extra playoffs does not help my league, 1) I do not own the league 2) I cannot stand DS. Besides the DH and interleague play I abhor it the most. Let the Yankees come to NL and they would be beaten like any other team no way would they go around crushing teams. Your points here have been sad in logic, but very entertaining to say the least.
hahaha that is the best you got to say the  owners of the METS suck THEY DO STINK and we change everything but 1 really thats what you went withhahahahahahahahaha.WELL THE OWNERS ARE TRYING TO BE CHEAP THIS YEAR SO THE TEAM IS GOING TO STINK THEY DON'T REALLY WANNA SIGN PLAYER. YOU PITCHING IS COMPLETE GARBAGE IT IS. I been around long enough to see the Yankees have their ups and downs and they would not win every year.  They may have over 30 championships, you have 27 now what 3 more. WELL IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE EXTRA PLAYOFF SERIES THE YANKEES WOULD HAVE MORE THEN 30 WORLD SERIES AT THIS POINT YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT. BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE DIVISION SERIES THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY WORLD SERIES. Hell you been in the playoffs enough times you should have them.ALL YOU CAN DO IS MAKE IT WHICH THE METS DON'T STRAIGHT UP I would say many other teams would have more too but they don't. When you spend to get the best talent you are going to win more and be in the chase more often. OF COURSE YANKEES SPEND BUT UNLIKE ML REALLY THINK THEY JUST DON'T GET THE PEREZS OF THE WORLD THE JASON BAYS OF THE WORLD WORTHLESS PLAYERS. THEY GET MARK TEX. THEY GET CC SABATHIA YOU CAN HAVE AJ THAT WAS STUPID MET SHOULD TRADE PEREZ FOR AJ STRAIGHT UP LOL. Does not mean you will win as it has been proven in the past. The Yankees are not killing teams now or running away with anything. Watch as the Yankees start to slide down the hill, George is not there to buy the best player anymore. THEY WILL SIGN CLIFF LEE A GREAT PITCHER WHEN THEY NEED ANOTHER PLAYER THEY WILL SIGN THE BEST PLAYERS. GEORGE BEEN REALLY OUT OF THE GAME FOR A WHILE YEAH WHEN SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENS LIKE GIVING A-ROD A CONTRACT HE HAD A SAY BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT HAS BEEN HIS BOYS RUNNING THE SHOW. Did you really say they put the weaker player in the outfield, hahahaha stupid you picked Ruth as the best player in this survey, where did he played? Manlte, Williams???? DEFENSIVE PLAYERS THAT ARE WEAK ARE IN THE OUTFIELD NO INFIELD MANNY BEING MANNY HE STINKS IN THE FIELD A TOTAL JOKE YEAH HE CAN HIT BUT HE CAN NOT FIELD. Yeah you are lost but you make it funny to read. Jordan what do you know about him really???? JORDAN HAD 5 MVP'S HE HAD 6 FINALS MVP. HE WAS 6'6 BORN IN BROOKLY BUT MOVED TO NORTH CAROLINA. HIGHEST SCORING GAME WAS 69 POINTS PLAYING LABRONS OLD TEAM. SCORED CLOSE TO 33 THOUSAND POINTS IN HIS CAREER. 14 TIME ALL STAR. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. NEED ANYMORE SCORE 38 POINTS SICK AFTER EATING A BAD PIZZA. OLDEST MAN TO SCORE 50 POINT IN A GAME. OWN'S THE BOB CATS. HE WAS PART OWNER OF THE WIZARDS AND CAPITALS. JORDAN NOW OWN'S HIS OWN MOTORCYCLE RACING TEAM. BEST SELLING SHOES SERIES OF ALL TIME. I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON. PLAYOFF HIGH 63 POINT PLAYING THE CELTICS. HE NEVER SCORED UNDER 20 POINT IN ANY PLAYOFF GAME EVER. ONCE OWN A RESTURANT IN CHICAGO.




  Takes a real team to be good are you serious??????  South Beach lol at the end of the year see where they are, again as you said regular season means nothing as long as they make the playoffs, the Heat will be there. extra playoffs does not help my league, 1) I do not own the league 2)HEAT ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH GOOD TEAM THEY HAVE NO SIZE THEY NEED A BIG MAN. WITHOUT A BIG MAN THEY ARE GOING TO FIND IT HARD TO BE GOOD. THAT IS WHAT THEY NEED. LOOK AT THE LAKERS THEY HAVE ALL SIZE ALONG WITH KOBE WHO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASKETBALL.  I cannot stand DS. Besides the DH and interleague play I abhor it the most. Let the Yankees come to NL and they would be beaten like any other team no way would they go around crushing teams. ONLY TEAM THAT WHOULD BE ANY CHALLANGE TO THE YANKEES IN THE NL WOULD BE THE PHILLIES. THE NL ISN'T AS STRONG AS THE AL PERIOD YOU NL FAN'S MAY THINK SO BUT NO WAY. Your points here have been sad in logic, but very entertaining to say the least.
Babe Ruth  
#110 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
I agree with you,  he is the most enteraining one on this site with those crazy rants. Yes it was 1969 the first year, was laughing to much when I typed. Bulls come now Jordan came into the league in '84 but did not win till '91  If he did not have Grant, Paxson, Pippen, Cartwright with him they would not have won the 1st three. Did not say he did not make a difference but the Bulls did not win year after year till Collins coached. Yes the Bulls continued it. Jordan playing playing for another team gives them a shot but does not mean they would win. It is true that people do not remember who played with Jordan if they really did not follow basketball. Just like baseball if you watch the games you get to know the players and who they played for and if you are die hard fan could say how they ended on a certian team. Just like the Lakers of the '80s if you only know Magic I would say you were not really a fan of basketball, or the Lakers. The Celtics same thing,
Steven Kerr was a three point force playing with Jordan. You have Kukoc the third best player on the team. Jordan, Pippin and Kukoc were solid as a rock. Rodman grabbing the boards was solid. Ron Harper the 4th best player on the team was solid. Then you had the best living coach in basketball Jackson. The 94 Dream Team is without Question the best basketball team that ever played they outscored every team by more then 30 points in 94.
Lakers had the best big man in my view ever The Bruce Lee student Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Babe Ruth  
#111 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:

Scottie Pippen

FOOL  IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER HIM YOU NEVER WATCHED BASKETBALL...            WHY DO YOU TWO CARE ABOUT THE POST SEASON YOUR TEAM'S DON'T MAKE IT HOW CAN YOUR TWO MET AND GIANT FANS CARE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT RARELY HAPPENS.
Baseball I follow baseball. Hey you jump on the ban wagon when the Yankees started winning in the mid '90s. Pippen I remember the yammer who quit on his team was always a role player never the leader. I also remeber Russell, Bird, Mchale, Parish, Kareem, Worthy, Green, Worthy, Scott. If you really did follow basketball then you would know more then one player on a team. Still this was about baseball not basketball.
Babe Ruth  
#112 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
I agree with you,  he is the most enteraining one on this site with those crazy rants. Yes it was 1969 the first year, was laughing to much when I typed. Bulls come now Jordan came into the league in '84 but did not win till '91  If he did not have Grant, Paxson, Pippen, Cartwright with him they would not have won the 1st three. Did not say he did not make a difference but the Bulls did not win year after year till Collins coached. Yes the Bulls continued it. Jordan playing playing for another team gives them a shot but does not mean they would win. It is true that people do not remember who played with Jordan if they really did not follow basketball. Just like baseball if you watch the games you get to know the players and who they played for and if you are die hard fan could say how they ended on a certian team. Just like the Lakers of the '80s if you only know Magic I would say you were not really a fan of basketball, or the Lakers. The Celtics same thing,
LAUGHING AT ME I KNOW MY STUFF DUDE. PEOPLE SHOULD LAUGH AT YOU TEACH THAT ML DUDE ABOUT BASKETBALL. Jordan didn't win right away he didn't have the right players yet like the Heat won't either they need a few piece to complete the team. They have three solid players but that is it they need a big man on the team. If they faced the Lakers in the final against those bigs they would get crushed. Lakers are clearly the best team in basketball in my view. Heat will also have an hard time with the Celtics if they stay healthy that team is solid also the two best team's in the game are the Celtics and the Lakers without question.
Babe Ruth  
#113 | 1430 days ago

(Edited by TatsuKlinga2812812)
jaysinw wrote:
Baseball I follow baseball. Hey you jump on the ban wagon when the Yankees started winning in the mid '90s. Pippen I remember the yammer who quit on his team was always a role player never the leader. I also remeber Russell, Bird, Mchale, Parish, Kareem, Worthy, Green, Worthy, Scott. If you really did follow basketball then you would know more then one player on a team. Still this was about baseball not basketball.
I'm only 29 I really didn't watch Magic or Bird or any of those players but I know Kareem in my view is the best big man ever he was a great player. I follow Kobe he going too have more points then anyone in the game soon but he is not Jordan that for sure. I was born an Yankee fan.I was a Yankee fan in the 80's though I didn't watch them a lot I was to busy being a kid. I been a Jordan fan for a while.
Babe Ruth  
#114 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
WELL JETER HAS A BETTER RBI AVERAGE ALSO THE THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT.

There is no "most important stat".  All stats work to give you the bigger picture.  Further, Ichiro hits leadoff giving him fewer RBI opportunities.  Further still, his job is not to drive in runs.  But to score them. YOUR ONLY LEAD OFF FOR THE MOST PART ONCE A GAME AFTER THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO AFTER WHILE YOU HAVE TO DRIVE RUN'S IN. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT LOL GO FIGURE.

HE HAS MORE RUNs SO HIS TEAM IS BETTER AT GETTING HIM.

I mentioned this already.  You realize that it doesn't support your take, it actually supports mine, right?

RINGS THAT DEREK JETER HELP EARN NOT LIKE HE DIDN'T PLAY ANY GAMES IN THE POST SEASON.

He was part of the bigger picture.  But he himself didn't win them. HE HELP WIN THEM LOL  Titles are a team thing. TITLES ARE A TEAM THING THAT TAKE INDIVUALS TO COMPLETE INCLUDING DEREK JETER YOU NEED PLAYERS TO WIN TITLES. I thought we were talking about individuals.  TITLES IN AN INDIVIDUAL THING ALSO. Also, the Giants have more World Series wins than Jeter personally has.  That's not bad considering that most of the time the Giants payroll was less than Jeter has made in some entire seasons. BAD IF IT TAKES 50+ YEAR TO WIN SOMETHING A TEAM WHO LAST WON WERE DEREK JETER WON HIS 5 RINGS WELL SAME CITY.

MANY TIMES IN THE YEAR THE YANKEES HAVE A BLOW OUT THEY TAKE JETER OUT EARLY

Hmm...  So he must not be a very good short stop.YANKEES HAVE A 10-2 LEAD THEY ARE TAKING OUT THE KEY PLAYERS AROUND THE 7TH INNING TO GIVE THE KEY PLAYERS A BREAK STRAIGHT UP YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU TEAM DOESN'T GET BIG LEADS. THAT AROUND TWO AT BATS TAKEN RIGHT THERE AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT. THAT ADDS UP DURING 162 GAME SEASON WHEN IT COMES TO AT BATS. AT BATS ARE A PRODUCT OF YOUR TEAM GETTING THROUGH THE ORDER ANYWAYS.

I DON'T CARE IF HE HAS THE WORLD RECORD THAT MEAN'S NOTHING TO ME. WELL DEREK JETER HAS WORLD SERIES RECORDS........REPEAT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MOST HITS AMONG OTHER RECORDS MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN A HIT RECORD IN THE REGULAR SEASON. BUT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MEAN NOTHING. OH THIS IS NOT PLAYOFF RECORDS BUT WOOOOOOORLD SERIES RECORD SO DON'T PUT THE EXTRA GAMES TO PLAY BECAUSE HE DONE IT IN THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME THE WORLD SERIES AMONG OTHER RECORDS MORE IMPORTANT NUMBERS.

Of course not.  You don't care about the facts that show you to be wrong.  It is your S.O.P.

SOOOOOOOOOO IT MEAN'S HE BETTER AT SCORING RUNNERS ON BASE THE

Let me help improve your baseball knowledge.  When you cause someone to score, as you described in your above comment, it is call a Run Batted In.  Or RBI.  Not a run. DA UNLESS IT IS A HOME RUN THEN YOUR RUN WITHIN THE RBI.

STOLEN BASES WELL DEREK JETER PLAYS ON A GOOD TEAM YOUR TELLING ME HE GOING TO STEAL A BASE WITH A-ROD OR TEX AT THE PLATE READY TO HIT NO WAY

Yes.  I am.  If those guys wanted to win, they would actually tell him to take off if he felt he had a lead.  Bonds told the guys ahead of him to run even if he were at the plate all the time knowing he would get walked.  IF HE HAS A GOOD SHOT AT STEALING HE IS GOING DEREK JETER HAS NO CHAIN'S HE CAN GO WHEN EVER HE WANTS TOO. It put the team in a better scoring situation. HOME RUN'S IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. YANKEES SCORE THE MOST RUN'S YEAR AFTER YEAR SO THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING CORRECT SINCE THEY SCORE MORE RUN'S THEN EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL.;

DEREK ISN'T AN HOMERUN HITTER EITHER.

But he has more home runs because of the short "my grandma could hit a homer there" porch at Yanky Stadium. IT NOT THAT EASY OR DEREK JETER WOULD HAVE 3O HOME RUN'S THE MYTH IS YANKEE STADIUM IS AN EASY PARK TO HIT HOME RUN'S IN. ONLY ONE PERSON I SEE MAKE IT LOOK EASY A-ROD BUT A-ROD A MONSTER ANYWAYS. You like dealing in "ifs".  If Suzuki were a Yanky, he would have at least as many taters.   SafeCo is where triples go to die. YANKEE STADIUM ISN'T THAT BAD A PARK TO GET TRIPLES IN ITS NOT THAT SMALL OF A PLACE. It's one of the reasons Griffy Jr wanted to leave.

LOOK NO ONE IN YANKEE HISTORY HIT 3000 HITS IN YANKEE STADIUM TELLS ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUILDING IT SELF

That tells me nothing about the building.  It does tell me that no Yanky ever played long enough to amass it. WELL STILL NEVER BEEN DONE IN THE VAST HISTORY OF THE YANKEES.

WELL WITH WHAT JETER HAS 5 WORLD SERIES THAT WHAT ICHIRO WISH HE HAS AN HE WILL NEVER HAVE 5 WORLD SERIES.

Why do you keep running to that?   That has nothing to do with the player. SO TAKE THE PLAYERS OF THE FIELD AND LET THE OWNERS PLAY. THE PLAYERS DON'T PITCH THEY DON'T HIT THE HOME RUN'S THEY DON'T THROW THE DOUBLE PLAYS STRAIGHT UP DUDE. DEREK JETER HIT SOME GAME WINNING HITS IN THE PLAYOFFS SO HE DOES HAVE A BIG PART IN WINNING WORLD SERIES PLUS THE MOST HITS EVER.  It has everything to do with the team. DA WHAT IS A TEAM ITS A GROUP OF PLAYERS DAAAAAAAAA DUDE

HELPING A TEAM WHEN IT MEAN'S THE MOST THAT WHAT IT MEAN.   WHAT TIME YOU HIT IS MOST IMPORTANT 3 RUN'S DOWN IN THE 9TH YOU HIT A GRAND SLAM CLUTCH. IF YOU ARE UP 7 RUN'S AND HIT A GRAND SLAM NOT CLUTCH STRAIGHT UP.

You have a definition.  But it is a subjective one.  And it still cannot be measured.  It is just something you FEEL. CLUTCH DOING SOMETHING GREAT WHEN IT IS NEEDED OR MOST IMPORTANT.

STERIODS STERIODS STERIODS HE A CHEATER.

Steroids do not make one a cheater. LOL WRONG I TOOK THEM THEY MAD ME STRONGER AND BETTER AT WHAT I WAS DOING STRAIGHT UP.

KG JR THE BIG UNIT BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I repeat.  The Mariners as a team performed better without Rodriguez. THINGS WOULD BE BETTER TODAY IF A-ROD WAS STILL A PLAYER FOR THE MARINERS.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHAMPIONSHIPS.

It's not about titles. THAT WHAT PLAYERS PLAY FOR It's about skill.  In basketball, one great player can win titles for you. IT AS MUCH A TEAM SPORT IF NOT MORE THEN BASEBALL CAN EVER BE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. In baseball, that cannot happen. WELL BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES.

BETTER FIELDER WRONG BY ORDER OF POSTION THE SHORT STOP HAS TO BE A BETTER FIELDER YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

Not necessarily.  This isn't high school anymore.  It is likely Jeter doesn't have the speed or the arm to adequately play any outfield spot. WHEN JETER WAS YOUNGER HE WAS FAST HE COULD OF PLAYED OUTFIELD. OH FAST I SEEN BIG LUGS IN LEFT FIELD ALL THE TIME MANNY FASTER THEN JETER NAAAA DON'T THINK SO. BOND'S NOPE. JETER HAS SPEED HE CAN BE AN OUTFIELD BUT SHORTSTOP IS A MORE IMPORTANT POSTION. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

YANKEES ARE A SMART TEAM THEY GIVE PLAYERS REST FROM TIME TO TIME.

All teams do that, pal. WELL I SEE THAT ISUKI PLAY 162 GAMES NOT SMART EVEN FOR HIM. YOU NEED TO GET A REST FROM TIME TO TIME WHAT EVER YOU DO.

BUT YOU HAVE TO BE A BETTER FIELDER TO BE A SHORT STOP

In little league, sure.  But not in the big leagues.LITTLE LEAGUES BIG LEAGUES SAME RULES ARE STILL FOLLOWED THE MOST IMPORTANT FIELDERS ARE ON THE INFIELD THEN YOU HAVE CENTERFIELDER THEN YOU HAVE THE LEFT AND RIGHT FIELDERS.

WELL JETER HAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE ARMS EVERY FOR A SHORT STOP. WELL HE USED TO.

No.  He was never anything more than adequate.   ADEQUATE IS ALL YOU REALLY NEED. IF YOU TRY TO DO TOO MUCH THAT HOW YOU GET ERRORS. WINNING BASEBALL PLAYERS KNOW DON'T TRY TO BE TOO FLASHY. YANKEES MAKE FEWER ERRORS THEN MOST OTHER TEAMS. ERRORS KILL TEAMS. Perhaps slightly above average at best.  He didn't suck.  But he wasn't one of the best. WELL HE DIDN'T NEED TO BE MORE THEN WHAT HE WAS. HE AS A GOOD PLAYER THAT ALL THE YANKEES NEEDED AN THEY WON LIKE THAT.

NOT REALLY

Wrong.  The consensus was their pitching could be good enough for the majors, but few felt their position players could succeed here.  He was the first position player to come.  He opened the door for all the others. WELL BUT HE ISN'T THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN THE MATSUI HE IS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN THE STATS. FOLLOW THE YANKEES AND YOU CAN LEARN MORE. 12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH MATSUI WIN THE WORLD SERIES MVP HE IS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WELL HE WAS IN THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW NOW.

I WOULD PROMISE YOU THE YANKEES WOULD DESTROY EVERY SINGLE TEAM OVER IN JAPAN.

They would probably win, but they win a lot here too.  And it has to do with how much they spend.  Why not use a more mediocre team as your example?   I BET SOMEONE LIKE THE BLUE JAY'S COULD WIN IN JAPAN A LOT. A TEAM LIKE THE MET'S. A TEAM LIKE THE CUBS NEED ANYMORE. THE TEAM'S THEY HAVE ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THE UNITED STATES TEAM. ROYALS AND PIRATES WOULD BE BETTER OFF IN JAPAN. Good God, what a imbecilic example.

MICHAEL JORDAN IS A BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THEN MAYES IS A BASEBALL PLAYER.

Some would debate that.  There are many who feel Mays is the greatest ever. FOOL IT RUTH BY FAR.  I personally don't agree, but they make valid arguments that are hard to ignore.  I would say that Gretzky was a better hockey player than Mays was a baseball player.  But it is pretty close... I DON'T FOLLOW HOCKEY SO I DON'T CARE.

.BONDS DIDN'T CHEAT ON HIS WIFE BULL SHIT HE ISN'T AN SAINT.

Neither you nor I know it.  It's possible, but it never came out in the press.  So it is pure speculation on your part. DEREK JETER IS SMART NEVER GOT MARRIED SO HE CAN DO WHAT EVERY HE WANTS ATHLETES SHOULD NEVER GET MARRIED MOST CHEAT. AS FOR THE CARD GAMES ALL PLAYERS GAMBLE THEY DO. WHEN BOND'S PLAYING GOLF WITH JORDAN OR EVEN TIGER THOUGH BOTH WOULD NEED 100 STROKE LEAD WITH HIM THEY DON'T BET. LOL THEY ALL DO.

THAT GAVE HIM MORE POWER AT AN OLDER AGE TO HIT MORE HOMERUN'S.

No evidence supports that. WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THEY ARE AN VITAMIN C PILL THAT DOES NOTHING AT ALL BUT PLAYER PAY 5000 FOR VITAMIN C LOL WOW. GET A CLUE LOL. That thinking is the logic of the mindless mob.  Not people who reason. LOL THEY HELP..

BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

They aren't banned in the United States. It is a controlled substance.  Not a banned one. THE STUFF THE PLAYERS TAKE ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES SOME STUFF IS LAWFUL BUT NOT WHAT BASEBALL PLAYERS TAKE.

NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEES OR RED SOX, METS, AND OTHER BIG MARKET TEAM YOU CAN'T PRODUCE MORE CASH THEN THEM.

But that is not what you claimed.  You claimed those other teams didn't make ten cents.  Your words.  Now you are going back on what you said? LOL WHEN THEY SAY A PLAYER HIT A MOON SHOT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HIT THE MOON IT MEAN'S THEY HIT THE BALL FAR.
Further, it doesn't matter.  If the high revenue teams didn't have anyone to play, MLB would be pretty darn dull with only 6 teams.

.IT S GOING TO HAPPEN IT WILL HAPPEN MLB WILL BE IN JAPAN AND ALL OVER THE WORLD IN 20 OR SO

Sure.  And I'm going to win the lottery in 20 years or so too. BUD ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TEAMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS HE SAID IN 14 YEARS HE HOPE IT WILL HAPPEN NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM NOT.

THEY ARE TESTING FOR EXPANTION TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

Links please?  BUD SAID IT IN MANY INTERVIEWS HE WANT TO OPEN THE MARKETS TO OTHER COUNTRYS. IT WILL HAPPEN AS SOON AS LOGITIC HAPPEN THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH. Because I know they are not even thinking about expansion these days. NOOO REAL PROFESSIONAL MAJOR LEAGUE TEAMS  Don't confuse baseball camps or supporting foreign programs with expansion. NOOO REAL PROFESSIONAL MAJOR LEAGUE TEAMS   That is not what they are about. IT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I SEE THE FUTURE UNLIKE YOU.

THEY JUST HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR TRAVEL.

Super.  Then all we have to do is wait about 160 years for Emery Erikson to invent the transporter! LOL THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE THE ONE TEAM IN ONE THE SAME AREAS THEN YOU FACE THE AMERICAN TEAM MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR AND IN THE PLAYOFFS. WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE GAMES EVERY SO OFTEN IN JAPAN DURING SPRING TRAINING. JAPAN LOVES AMERICAN BASEBALL.

THEY MIGHT EVEN MERGE WITH OTHER LEAGUES IN OTHER COUNTRYS OR EVEN BUY LEAGUES IN JAPAN.

Why would they do that?  The highest level non US baseball league out there is the NBL.  Perhaps the Korean league is up there too.  But you earlier compared the NBL to low level minors. THEY WOULD BE STILL AA TO AAA AT BEST THEY ARE NOT THE MAJORS DON'T MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE NOT.

BUT CANADA WILL GET TEAMS SOONER OR LATER

Last time I checked, Toronto was the largest city in Canada. WELL YOU SEE HOW IT IS WORKING FOR THE BLUE JAYS.

I WOULD THINK JAPAN WOULD BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO ALLOW A REAL PROFESSIOAL TEAM IN JAPAN

I would think a Japanese fan would be offended at your arrogant comment. LOL MAJOR LEAGUE JERSEYS AND OTHER THINGS SELL HIGH IN JAPAN.

FORBES BUDDY FORBES BUDDY THEY WOULD KNOW BETTER THEN YOU THEY SAID YANKEES ARE THE MOST PROFITABLE TEAM IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW

And yet you provide no link.  Guess what?  You are still full of hot air. YOU HAVE TO PAY TO LOOK AT THE ARTICAL IT WAS ONCE FREE IM NOT PAYING FOR SHIT AND UNLIKE YOU I DON'T GO TO OTHER BULLSHIP SITES. STRAIGHT UP

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER.

Suzuki is still the most popular player.  He still has the larger Japanese media posse. MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WHEN HE BECAME THE YANKEES. LOL

JAPAN ALSO

Would be nice if you proved it.  They don't even give a crap about basketball in Japan. WRONG LA HAS A HUGE MARKET IN JAPAN. KOBE IS HUGH IN JAPAN.  There are more hockey players in the Japan than basketballers. BASKETBALL PLAYERS IT NOT SOCCER DUDE BASKETBALLERS.

LAKERS ARE AN HISTORIC TEAM WITH AN HISTORICE COACH AND COUNTLESS HISTORIC PLAYERS.

People don't remember the Lakers.  They remember Magic and Kobe.  Like I said, the NBA is all about the individual.  Not the team.WRONG

BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED AND WON WITH THE LAKERS. PAST AND PRESENT

I don't recall Oscar Robinson or Michael Jordan playing for the Lakers.... SHOULD SAY SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER TO TAKE WHAT I SAY WORD FOR WORD WHICH IS STUPID. LIKE THE GIANTS DOESN'T MAKE ANY MONEY. THE MEAN'S NO AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE NOT REALLY MEANING THEY MAKE NO MONEY. But then, I could be mistaken.  No one remembers the teams.  Only the players. GOLD AND PURPLE ALL THE WAY. YOU DON'T WATCH BASKETBALL YOU HAVE NO IDEA.



YANKEES PHILLIES HIGHEST IN YEARS.

Highest in 4 years.  BFD.  You know twice nothing is still nothing.  You also keep forgetting that there were four Yanky WS that had the lowest ratings to date.  Why do I have to keep reminding you of that?SMOKED THE GIANTS AND RANGERS. SMOOOOOOOOOOKED THEM

THEN IT WILL JUST GO ON ESPN LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

Then why didn't the post season go to ESPN?  They didn't even want it.  They went to TBS fer cryin' out loud! TBS IS A NATIONAL NETWORK IN A LOT OF AREAS MANY AREAS IT IS NOT.

.NOT LAST SEASON RATING WERE HUGE

Hardly.  They were a mere 1 point higher than just 2 years before.  That is not a substantial increase. BLEW THE CURRENT WORLD SERIES RATING TO SHAME.LOL OVER SEAS THEY SCORED HUGH 12 MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN ALONE.

NO WE HAD SOME CRAPPY MATCHUP FROM THE WEST

You mean like that crappy Yankee-Mets series that had the lowest ratings ever at the time? STILL BET WORLD SERIES THEN THE LAST ONE THAT NO ONE WATCHED.

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE MOST PROFITABLE TV CHANNEL IN AMERICA

Because the Yankees play in the biggest media market in the country.  The most people are there.  Take YES out of New York and put in LA with the same programing and it becomes utterly worthless because no one outside of the tri state area cares about the yankies. I SAY YOUR WRONG MORE FAN'S OUTSIDE THE MARKET THEN FAN'S OF THE GIANT'S I PROMISE THAT. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

RATINGS MEAN CASH.

Exactly.  And the national ratings SUCK. THEY WERE NOT THAT BAD YANKEES AND PHILLIES DREW LARGE THE LAST GAME IN TODAYS AGE BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

YANKEES WIN A LOT

Not last year.95 WINS AND MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

YOU WANT IT ALL YO DON'T YOU.

Within reason, sure.

YOU HAVE TAKE FROM THE RICH GIVE TO THE RICH PLAN.

No, I have a "let's make baseball more competitive so more fans will get into it so it can make more money" plan.

TELL THE OWNERS TO FORK UP MORE MONEY OR SELL TO PEOPLE THAT WOULD DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES.

Where will the money come from?  Not all teams have access to the New York market, you know. YOU WANT THE YANKEES TO SHARE SOME OF THE YES NETWORK WITH OTHER TEAM'S IN BASEBALL STUPID THEY DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY. YOU WANT YANKEES TO GIVE MONEY TO OTHER TEAM'S WHAT DO THE YANKEES GET OUT OF IT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT FAIR FOR THE MOST POPULAR TEAM IN THE SPORT STRAIGHT UP.

NOT ONLY IN YOUR DREAM'S. YANKEES WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES AND THE RED SOX WERE BETTER THE THE NEXT BEST TEAM THEY WERE BETTER THEN THE ANGLES THEMSELVES.

That's not how you compare.  You have to look at ALL teams together.  Not just 1 against 1, 2 against 2, etc.  But even if you did, the AL West of 2009 would still come out on top. NOOOOOOO NOT AT ALL YOU HAVE TO FIGURE HOW GOOD WOULD YOUR DIVISON BE IF YOU HAD TO FACE THE RED SOX AND YANKEES UP TOO 19 GAMES A YEAR. Their worst team was better than the the bottom 2 in the AL East.  NAnd their best teams were very near the top of the AL.  Overall making that division the most difficult in the Majors that season.

TAMPA BAY WASN'T A PUSH OVER AND JAY'S AREN'T EITHER

In 2009 the Rays were less than mediocre and the Jays were even worse.  And the O's...  The crap team of the American League.  They alone were why the Yankees won as many games as they did.  No AL west team had a whipping boy like that to pad their records. NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION THE YANKEES PLAYED IN MANY TEAMS WOULD BE THE YANKEES WHIPPING BOYS STRAIGHT UP. GIANTS WOULD GET CRUSHED 18-19 GAMES A SEASON CRUSHED.
Only one AL West team was under .500.  And they were still 11 games better than the worst of the East.  It really was no contest.  EVERY PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PERSON KNOWS THE HARDEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL IS THE AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST 2008-2009-2010 JUST BECAUSE THE YANKEES, RED, RAY. FACT IF THE BLUE JAY WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION LAST YEAR THEY MIGHT OF MADE THE PLAYOFFS. NO WAY THE WEST IS BETTER THEN THE EAST IN BOTH LEAGUES.    YOUR JUST A HATER AND DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH.
YOUR ONLY LEAD OFF FOR THE MOST PART ONCE A GAME AFTER THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

If that is the case, why are all the slugging RBI guys batting 3rd and 4th?  They should bat leadoff, according to you...

TITLES IN AN INDIVIDUAL THING ALSO

No it isn't.  When was the last time one player won a World Series?  How come the Commissioner's Trophy doesn't go to a player?

BAD IF IT TAKES 50+ YEAR TO WIN SOMETHING A TEAM WHO LAST WON WERE DEREK JETER WON HIS 5 RINGS WELL SAME CITY.

So, your tactic in defending Jeter is to rip on an unrelated team.  That kind of deflection is the tactic of the person who cannot defend his own position and doesn't want to admit they were wrong to begin with.

BECAUSE YOU TEAM DOESN'T GET BIG LEADS

Not usually...  But with the great pitching my team has, the other team rarely gets them either!  You know what else my team DOESN'T have?  $206 million to spend!

DEREK JETER HAS WORLD SERIES RECORDS

He has none of those.

MOST HITS AMONG OTHER RECORDS

No, he doesn't.  That record belongs to Yogi Berra.

MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN A HIT RECORD IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

Actually not.  It takes far more skill to hit over 162 games than over 4 or 7.  Anyone can get hot for a week.

BUT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MEAN NOTHING.

Almost nothing.  The World Series is all about the team winning it.  Players don't really care who gets the most hits in it as long as the TEAM wins it.

DA UNLESS IT IS A HOME RUN THEN YOUR RUN WITHIN THE RBI.

Don't act like you knew it.  What you wrote earlier showed that you didn't.

IF HE HAS A GOOD SHOT AT STEALING HE IS GOING

Hey Mr Contradiction, you JUST said he DOESN'T steal.  Now you say he does.  

YANKEES SCORE THE MOST RUN'S YEAR AFTER YEAR

Yeah.  $206 million tends to do that.  Wonder how many runs they would score if their payroll was a mere $97 million...

SO THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING CORRECT SINCE THEY SCORE MORE RUN'S THEN EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL.;

What they are doing is spending more than twice the mean.  That doesn't mean they are doing anything right.  It just means they have a ton of money.

IT NOT THAT EASY OR DEREK JETER WOULD HAVE 3O HOME RUN'S THE MYTH IS YANKEE STADIUM IS AN EASY PARK TO HIT HOME RUN'S IN.

That is no myth.  The older one had short fences in the areas most players hit flies.  The new one is even more homer friendly.  If Jeter played at Phone Company Park he would struggle to hit 5.

YANKEE STADIUM ISN'T THAT BAD A PARK TO GET TRIPLES

And yet very few are hit there.  More are hit at Phone Company Park.

SO TAKE THE PLAYERS OF THE FIELD AND LET THE OWNERS PLAY. THE PLAYERS DON'T PITCH THEY DON'T HIT THE HOME RUN'S THEY DON'T THROW THE DOUBLE PLAYS STRAIGHT UP DUDE. D

What the hell are you on about now?  You want to watch owners play?   You are deranged.

PLUS THE MOST HITS EVER.

Jeter does not have the most World Series hits ever.  Not in a single series.  Not for a career.  I told you..  Berra has the career record and it is a 3 way tie between Marty Barrett, Lou Brock and Bobby Richardson for a single World Series.

CLUTCH DOING SOMETHING GREAT WHEN IT IS NEEDED OR MOST IMPORTANT.

You repeated yourself.  So I will repeat my response.  That is subjective and there is no way to measure it.  Even the statheads out there haven't come up with a way to measure "clutch" hitting.  

WRONG I TOOK THEM THEY MAD ME STRONGER AND BETTER AT WHAT I WAS DOING STRAIGHT UP.

I promise you, they didn't make you a better baseball player because you never played.  You said you were a wrestler, where it is possible they might actually help.  Baseball is a very different discipline.  They can help in the brute force type of events.  But not in the more skillful ones...  Like baseball.  Also, the statistics don't support steroids doing anything either.

THINGS WOULD BE BETTER TODAY IF A-ROD WAS STILL A PLAYER FOR THE MARINERS.

Maybe.  But it is doubtful.  They did better without him.

IT AS MUCH A TEAM SPORT IF NOT MORE THEN BASEBALL

Not even close.  In basketball, you can always give the ball to your best player with 2 seconds on the clock.  In baseball, you can't decide to bat your best hitter in the lineup in the 9th inning.

WELL BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES.

And what does that have to do with basketball being similar to baseball?

T HE COULD OF PLAYED OUTFIELD.

And yet he didn't. 

MANNY FASTER THEN JETER NAAAA

Since when were we comparing Manny to Jeter?

WELL I SEE THAT ISUKI PLAY 162 GAMES NOT SMART EVEN FOR HIM. YOU NEED TO GET A REST FROM TIME TO TIME WHAT EVER YOU DO.

Some players can endure.  Ripken did it.  Suzuki seems he can too.  Those are the iron horses of baseball.

LITTLE LEAGUES BIG LEAGUES SAME RULES ARE STILL FOLLOWED

Really?  When did MLB games end after 6 innings?  When was the distance between the bases shrunk?  Etc...

CENTERFIELDER THEN YOU HAVE THE LEFT AND RIGHT FIELDERS.

Except, on the school yard and in LL, the worst player was often placed in right field.  Yet right field in the Majors is often where you put your best defensive outfielder.  The same position Suzuki plays, btw.

ADEQUATE IS ALL YOU REALLY NEED.

Perhaps.  But you were talking about how GREAT he was.  Now you agree that he was just adequate?

WELL BUT HE ISN'T THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN THE MATSUI

No.  Ichiro is still more popular than Matsui.  I was there last year.  I saw it first hand. 

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH MATSUI WIN THE WORLD SERIES MVP

You are rounding up to make it look better, but in terms of TV viewers, that number is pathetically low.   the NFL gets that kind of viewers for pre-season games.

I BET SOMEONE LIKE THE BLUE JAY'S COULD WIN IN JAPAN A LOT.

No way to know for sure.  But I think the average MLB team would probably fare better over there.  But this is because the Japanese teams are made up of only locals.  The MLB teams are made of of the best players from all over the WORLD.
However, Japan haw won both WBC's so far...  I think that means that their top players are at least as good as the rest of the World's top players.

FOOL IT RUTH BY FAR.

Not by far.  It is actually VERY close.  I give it to Ruth only because he pitched successfully for a little bit.  But Mays was a thousand times the outfielder Ruth was.

I DON'T FOLLOW HOCKEY SO I DON'T CARE.

Yeah.  You wouldn't follow a rough sport like hockey.  Just using a better example than you did, that's all.

LOL THEY ALL DO.

There is a difference between a little wager here and there.  Many people do it.  It is when it becomes a problem when the person becomes a degenerate.  Like Rose and Jordan.  At least Jordan was smart enough not to bet on the NBA when he played....  (He left that to the officials!)

WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE

I know exactly what they are.  One doesn't need to take them to know that.  But as far as how they benefit a baseball player?  There is no agreement in the medical community and the stats from the era don't support that steroids did anything unusual.  Plus, more pitchers have been tested positive than hitters.  Go figure that one out....

THEY HELP..

Not to hit home runs.  There is no data to support that.

THE STUFF THE PLAYERS TAKE ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

Exactly how would you know that?  And instead of giving me your usual vomit, just post a link instead.

WHEN THEY SAY A PLAYER HIT A MOON SHOT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HIT THE MOON IT MEAN'S THEY HIT THE BALL FAR.

Not the same.  We all know that vernacular.  But you claimed other teams contribute NOTHING. 

BUD ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TEAMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS HE SAID IN 14 YEARS

And yet it was never reported ANYWHERE.  Weird how only you know about this.

BUD SAID IT IN MANY INTERVIEWS HE WANT TO OPEN THE MARKETS TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

I knew it.   Dude...  That doesn't mean he plans to put Major League teams in those countries!!!  Learn to read.

! LOL THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE THE ONE TEAM IN ONE THE SAME AREAS

It's not going to happen.  You don't see the future.  You are seeing what you WISH.  Quite a different thing.  I see reality.  MLB wants to open up foreign markets so they can see games and buy their stuff.  Promote the sport so maybe they can have a new pool of talent for the AMERICAN Major Leagues to get players.  Never ever has Bud said he wants to put expansion teams in Asia or Europe.  Bud is an idiot when it comes to baseball.  But he isn't that stupid when it comes to business.

WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE GAMES EVERY SO OFTEN IN JAPAN DURING SPRING TRAINING. JAPAN LOVES AMERICAN BASEBALL.

And Japan has their own league.  There have been a couple of instances where teams played two games to start the season in Japan.  But it is merely a publicity stunt.  There are even rumors the Giants will open their season in Taiwan next year.  But guess what...  The NHL has opened in Japan and in Europe almost every year.  But only to help sell the League.  There is no intention of placing teams in those countries.  That would be idiotic.

THEY WOULD BE STILL AA TO AAA AT BEST THEY ARE NOT THE MAJORS DON'T MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE NOT.

Somehow I don't think the Japanese fans would take kindly to being a minor league for North American baseball.

WELL YOU SEE HOW IT IS WORKING FOR THE BLUE JAYS.

Don't know what you mean by that.  Canada is about as close as it gets to being a 51st state without being a US state.

MAJOR LEAGUE JERSEYS AND OTHER THINGS SELL HIGH IN JAPAN.

That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years....

UNLIKE YOU I DON'T GO TO OTHER BULLSHIP SITES.

Nice little insult you placed so obviously in there.  I'm not going to stoop to your level.  I will only say that you have no idea what sites I like to frequent.  But if it was such a wide spread thing, other sites would have picked it up.  Until you provide evidence, I will just classify it like the rest of your tripe.  Not relevant.

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WHEN HE BECAME THE YANKEES.

Only because Ichiro was no longer playing in Japan!  But world wide, Ichiro was still more popular.  People love the guy.  Still do.  His Japanese entourage proves it.

WRONG LA HAS A HUGE MARKET IN JAPAN. KOBE IS HUGH IN JAPAN

No he's not.  I was there!   No one even knows what basketball is in that country.

WRONG

No, right.

SHOULD SAY SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER

Big deal.  In over 50 years of the NBA, many teams have had some of the best players play for them. 

YOU DON'T WATCH BASKETBALL

I don't have to.  I see and hear how it is marketed to the public.  It is never the Lakers vs the Cavs.  It is KOBE (and the lakers) vs LABRON (and the cavs)  At least, before he made a huge production about raising his middle finger to the team he used to play for.  You would NEVER see that in any other sport.  Only in basketball because it is all about the player.  Not the team.

SMOKED THE GIANTS AND RANGERS. SMOOOOOOOOOOKED THEM

Hardly.  2 points.  That's not "smoking" by ANY definition.

TBS IS A NATIONAL NETWORK IN A LOT OF AREAS MANY AREAS IT IS NOT.

It is a national network, but it is known for Andy Griffith reruns more than anything.  There just is NOTHING on TBS!  Who even watches it?  I had to look at my channel guide to even see where the hell it was on my system!  VERSUS gets more viewers than TBS!

OVER SEAS THEY SCORED HUGH 12 MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN ALONE.

No way.  11 million in the USA does NOT translate to 12 million in Japan.  A more realistic estimate would be 2 mil.  And even that would be high considering that the games all started around 10am locally.  I would ask where you came up with that figure but I know you will never confirm it with anything.

STILL BET WORLD SERIES THEN THE LAST ONE THAT NO ONE WATCHED.

Doesn't change the fact that the Yankees have been involved in the lowest rated world series ever.  Multiple times.  Also, the highest rated of all time didn't involve the Yankees.  Imagine that.

I SAY YOUR WRONG

You SAY that but you cannot come up with ANY reasons why.

THEY WERE NOT THAT BAD YANKEES AND PHILLIES DREW LARGE

No..  Those ratings SUCKED.   They were the 5th lowest EVER.  That sucks in anyone's book.  Except yours, of course.

.95 WINS AND MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

2nd place.  You know what people call teams who don't win?   LOSERS!

YOU WANT THE YANKEES TO SHARE SOME OF THE YES NETWORK WITH OTHER TEAM'S IN BASEBALL STUPID THEY DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY.

All teams are part of the same company.  If franchises fail, it is bad for the entire company.  I don't just want the Yankees to share.  I want ALL teams to share.  ALL teams will contribute.  It is not about going after only the Yankees.  It is about what is best for ALL of Major League baseball.  You don't understand that.  Where would the Yankees be if they only had 4 teams to play?

YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT FAIR FOR THE MOST POPULAR TEAM IN THE SPORT STRAIGHT UP.

Not only is it fair to the popular teams, it is fair to ALL teams regardless of popularity.  The league needs ALL teams to do well.  Not just a few.  You are not a baseball fan.  You are a selfish Yankee fan.  So that is something you don't seem to get.

NOOOOOOO NOT AT ALL YOU HAVE TO FIGURE HOW GOOD WOULD YOUR DIVISON BE IF YOU HAD TO FACE THE RED SOX AND YANKEES UP TOO 19 GAMES A YEAR.

That, AND you have to consider how they would be if they got to face the crappy Jays, Rays and O's 18 times a year too.  You keep forgetting about the crap teams in your division.

NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION THE YANKEES PLAYED IN MANY TEAMS WOULD BE THE YANKEES WHIPPING BOYS STRAIGHT UP.

GIANTS WOULD GET CRUSHED 18-19 GAMES A SEASON CRUSHED.

Not with the pitching they have.  Many eastern pundit thought the Rangers would beat the Giants since they beat the Rays, the best of the East.  But their bias didn't allow them to see how good the Giants pitching was.  Just like you.

EVERY PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PERSON KNOWS THE HARDEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL IS THE AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST 2008-2009-2010

Prove it.  That comment, like much of what you say, is horse dung.

FACT IF THE BLUE JAY WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION LAST YEAR THEY MIGHT OF MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

That is not a fact.  That is your speculation.  You don't even know the difference.  But my assessment is they likely wouldn't have.  They weren't very good at all.

You are just a hater of all things not Yankee.  Just admit to it.  You will feel as if a tremendous weight has been lifted from your soul...
Babe Ruth  
#115 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:

Scottie Pippen

FOOL  IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER HIM YOU NEVER WATCHED BASKETBALL...            WHY DO YOU TWO CARE ABOUT THE POST SEASON YOUR TEAM'S DON'T MAKE IT HOW CAN YOUR TWO MET AND GIANT FANS CARE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT RARELY HAPPENS.
Who?

Wake me when you call out a player who people actually know.
Babe Ruth  
#116 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
I agree with you,  he is the most enteraining one on this site with those crazy rants. Yes it was 1969 the first year, was laughing to much when I typed. Bulls come now Jordan came into the league in '84 but did not win till '91  If he did not have Grant, Paxson, Pippen, Cartwright with him they would not have won the 1st three. Did not say he did not make a difference but the Bulls did not win year after year till Collins coached. Yes the Bulls continued it. Jordan playing playing for another team gives them a shot but does not mean they would win. It is true that people do not remember who played with Jordan if they really did not follow basketball. Just like baseball if you watch the games you get to know the players and who they played for and if you are die hard fan could say how they ended on a certian team. Just like the Lakers of the '80s if you only know Magic I would say you were not really a fan of basketball, or the Lakers. The Celtics same thing,
Understandable that you were distracted by his inane rants.

I admit, I do not follow basketball as I don't even care for the game.  I find it hard and annoying to watch.  What I know of it is what I have gleaned only because I do listen to sports radio and hear a great deal about it.  One of the afternoon drive time hosts on the radio here is a former NBA player who I find VERY entertaining.  And HE even ripped the NBA as being way too player oriented.  He said all the players know it is about the stars and it has been that way for a very long time.  He said the non stars just accept it as the way it is.

You seem to be a fan as you ripped off a bunch of names no one but big time fans would know.  Don't mean to put down your sport there.  It just isn't for me.
Babe Ruth  
#117 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
LAUGHING AT ME I KNOW MY STUFF DUDE. PEOPLE SHOULD LAUGH AT YOU TEACH THAT ML DUDE ABOUT BASKETBALL. Jordan didn't win right away he didn't have the right players yet like the Heat won't either they need a few piece to complete the team. They have three solid players but that is it they need a big man on the team. If they faced the Lakers in the final against those bigs they would get crushed. Lakers are clearly the best team in basketball in my view. Heat will also have an hard time with the Celtics if they stay healthy that team is solid also the two best team's in the game are the Celtics and the Lakers without question.
I KNOW MY STUFF DUDE.

You see?  It is hilarious comments like that that keep me reading your stuff.   That one is a classic!   You are known for being the exact opposite of that!    ROTFLMAO!!!!
Babe Ruth  
#118 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Sabathia or Price should win the Cy Young because in my book those were the pitchers the really mattered. Feliz win or any of the other stuff didn't mean anything at all. The other pitchers got into the playoffs.
But Felix Hernandez was better. And the Cy Young is supposed to go to the best pitcher in the league.

Instead of going off on ridiculous tangents, why don't you tell us why Sabathia or Price were better than Hernandez? I can give you a bunch of reasons why Felix was better, so go ahead and try to give reasons why he wasn't. I'd love to hear your reasoning here.
Babe Ruth  
#119 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Sabathia or Price should win the Cy Young because in my book those were the pitchers the really mattered. Feliz win or any of the other stuff didn't mean anything at all. The other pitchers got into the playoffs.
Just to get you started...
ERA: Hernandez 2.27, Price 2.72, Sabathia 3.18
K's: Hernandez 232, Sabathia 197, Price 188
IP: Hernandez 249.2, Sabathia 237.2, Price 208.2
WHIP: Hernandez 1.06, Price 1.19, Sabathia 1.19
Quality start percentage: Hernandez 88%, Price 81%, Sabathia 76%
K/BB: Hernandez 3.31, Sabathia 2.66, Price 2.38
K/9IP: Hernandez 8.36, Price 8.11, Sabathia 7.46
Opp. AVG: Hernandez .212, Price .221, Sabathia .239
Opp OPS: Hernandez .585, Price .637, Sabathia .656

And the most important stat, in my opinion, which completely debunks the popular argument that Felix's W-L record wasn't good enough:
Run Support: Sabathia 7.31, Price 7.03, Hernandez 3.75 (source)

So if you can come up with something that still proves Sabathia and/or Price were better than Hernandez, despite all of those stats that show how much better Felix was, then let me know. Until then, you're just babbling.
Babe Ruth  
#120 | 1430 days ago

ML31 wrote:
YOUR ONLY LEAD OFF FOR THE MOST PART ONCE A GAME AFTER THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

If that is the case, why are all the slugging RBI guys batting 3rd and 4th?  They should bat leadoff, according to you...

TITLES IN AN INDIVIDUAL THING ALSO

No it isn't.  When was the last time one player won a World Series?  How come the Commissioner's Trophy doesn't go to a player?

BAD IF IT TAKES 50+ YEAR TO WIN SOMETHING A TEAM WHO LAST WON WERE DEREK JETER WON HIS 5 RINGS WELL SAME CITY.

So, your tactic in defending Jeter is to rip on an unrelated team.  That kind of deflection is the tactic of the person who cannot defend his own position and doesn't want to admit they were wrong to begin with.

BECAUSE YOU TEAM DOESN'T GET BIG LEADS

Not usually...  But with the great pitching my team has, the other team rarely gets them either!  You know what else my team DOESN'T have?  $206 million to spend!

DEREK JETER HAS WORLD SERIES RECORDS

He has none of those.

MOST HITS AMONG OTHER RECORDS

No, he doesn't.  That record belongs to Yogi Berra.

MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN A HIT RECORD IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

Actually not.  It takes far more skill to hit over 162 games than over 4 or 7.  Anyone can get hot for a week.

BUT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MEAN NOTHING.

Almost nothing.  The World Series is all about the team winning it.  Players don't really care who gets the most hits in it as long as the TEAM wins it.

DA UNLESS IT IS A HOME RUN THEN YOUR RUN WITHIN THE RBI.

Don't act like you knew it.  What you wrote earlier showed that you didn't.

IF HE HAS A GOOD SHOT AT STEALING HE IS GOING

Hey Mr Contradiction, you JUST said he DOESN'T steal.  Now you say he does.  

YANKEES SCORE THE MOST RUN'S YEAR AFTER YEAR

Yeah.  $206 million tends to do that.  Wonder how many runs they would score if their payroll was a mere $97 million...

SO THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING CORRECT SINCE THEY SCORE MORE RUN'S THEN EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL.;

What they are doing is spending more than twice the mean.  That doesn't mean they are doing anything right.  It just means they have a ton of money.

IT NOT THAT EASY OR DEREK JETER WOULD HAVE 3O HOME RUN'S THE MYTH IS YANKEE STADIUM IS AN EASY PARK TO HIT HOME RUN'S IN.

That is no myth.  The older one had short fences in the areas most players hit flies.  The new one is even more homer friendly.  If Jeter played at Phone Company Park he would struggle to hit 5.

YANKEE STADIUM ISN'T THAT BAD A PARK TO GET TRIPLES

And yet very few are hit there.  More are hit at Phone Company Park.

SO TAKE THE PLAYERS OF THE FIELD AND LET THE OWNERS PLAY. THE PLAYERS DON'T PITCH THEY DON'T HIT THE HOME RUN'S THEY DON'T THROW THE DOUBLE PLAYS STRAIGHT UP DUDE. D

What the hell are you on about now?  You want to watch owners play?   You are deranged.

PLUS THE MOST HITS EVER.

Jeter does not have the most World Series hits ever.  Not in a single series.  Not for a career.  I told you..  Berra has the career record and it is a 3 way tie between Marty Barrett, Lou Brock and Bobby Richardson for a single World Series.

CLUTCH DOING SOMETHING GREAT WHEN IT IS NEEDED OR MOST IMPORTANT.

You repeated yourself.  So I will repeat my response.  That is subjective and there is no way to measure it.  Even the statheads out there haven't come up with a way to measure "clutch" hitting.  

WRONG I TOOK THEM THEY MAD ME STRONGER AND BETTER AT WHAT I WAS DOING STRAIGHT UP.

I promise you, they didn't make you a better baseball player because you never played.  You said you were a wrestler, where it is possible they might actually help.  Baseball is a very different discipline.  They can help in the brute force type of events.  But not in the more skillful ones...  Like baseball.  Also, the statistics don't support steroids doing anything either.

THINGS WOULD BE BETTER TODAY IF A-ROD WAS STILL A PLAYER FOR THE MARINERS.

Maybe.  But it is doubtful.  They did better without him.

IT AS MUCH A TEAM SPORT IF NOT MORE THEN BASEBALL

Not even close.  In basketball, you can always give the ball to your best player with 2 seconds on the clock.  In baseball, you can't decide to bat your best hitter in the lineup in the 9th inning.

WELL BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES.

And what does that have to do with basketball being similar to baseball?

T HE COULD OF PLAYED OUTFIELD.

And yet he didn't. 

MANNY FASTER THEN JETER NAAAA

Since when were we comparing Manny to Jeter?

WELL I SEE THAT ISUKI PLAY 162 GAMES NOT SMART EVEN FOR HIM. YOU NEED TO GET A REST FROM TIME TO TIME WHAT EVER YOU DO.

Some players can endure.  Ripken did it.  Suzuki seems he can too.  Those are the iron horses of baseball.

LITTLE LEAGUES BIG LEAGUES SAME RULES ARE STILL FOLLOWED

Really?  When did MLB games end after 6 innings?  When was the distance between the bases shrunk?  Etc...

CENTERFIELDER THEN YOU HAVE THE LEFT AND RIGHT FIELDERS.

Except, on the school yard and in LL, the worst player was often placed in right field.  Yet right field in the Majors is often where you put your best defensive outfielder.  The same position Suzuki plays, btw.

ADEQUATE IS ALL YOU REALLY NEED.

Perhaps.  But you were talking about how GREAT he was.  Now you agree that he was just adequate?

WELL BUT HE ISN'T THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN THE MATSUI

No.  Ichiro is still more popular than Matsui.  I was there last year.  I saw it first hand. 

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH MATSUI WIN THE WORLD SERIES MVP

You are rounding up to make it look better, but in terms of TV viewers, that number is pathetically low.   the NFL gets that kind of viewers for pre-season games.

I BET SOMEONE LIKE THE BLUE JAY'S COULD WIN IN JAPAN A LOT.

No way to know for sure.  But I think the average MLB team would probably fare better over there.  But this is because the Japanese teams are made up of only locals.  The MLB teams are made of of the best players from all over the WORLD.
However, Japan haw won both WBC's so far...  I think that means that their top players are at least as good as the rest of the World's top players.

FOOL IT RUTH BY FAR.

Not by far.  It is actually VERY close.  I give it to Ruth only because he pitched successfully for a little bit.  But Mays was a thousand times the outfielder Ruth was.

I DON'T FOLLOW HOCKEY SO I DON'T CARE.

Yeah.  You wouldn't follow a rough sport like hockey.  Just using a better example than you did, that's all.

LOL THEY ALL DO.

There is a difference between a little wager here and there.  Many people do it.  It is when it becomes a problem when the person becomes a degenerate.  Like Rose and Jordan.  At least Jordan was smart enough not to bet on the NBA when he played....  (He left that to the officials!)

WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE

I know exactly what they are.  One doesn't need to take them to know that.  But as far as how they benefit a baseball player?  There is no agreement in the medical community and the stats from the era don't support that steroids did anything unusual.  Plus, more pitchers have been tested positive than hitters.  Go figure that one out....

THEY HELP..

Not to hit home runs.  There is no data to support that.

THE STUFF THE PLAYERS TAKE ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

Exactly how would you know that?  And instead of giving me your usual vomit, just post a link instead.

WHEN THEY SAY A PLAYER HIT A MOON SHOT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HIT THE MOON IT MEAN'S THEY HIT THE BALL FAR.

Not the same.  We all know that vernacular.  But you claimed other teams contribute NOTHING. 

BUD ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TEAMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS HE SAID IN 14 YEARS

And yet it was never reported ANYWHERE.  Weird how only you know about this.

BUD SAID IT IN MANY INTERVIEWS HE WANT TO OPEN THE MARKETS TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

I knew it.   Dude...  That doesn't mean he plans to put Major League teams in those countries!!!  Learn to read.

! LOL THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE THE ONE TEAM IN ONE THE SAME AREAS

It's not going to happen.  You don't see the future.  You are seeing what you WISH.  Quite a different thing.  I see reality.  MLB wants to open up foreign markets so they can see games and buy their stuff.  Promote the sport so maybe they can have a new pool of talent for the AMERICAN Major Leagues to get players.  Never ever has Bud said he wants to put expansion teams in Asia or Europe.  Bud is an idiot when it comes to baseball.  But he isn't that stupid when it comes to business.

WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE GAMES EVERY SO OFTEN IN JAPAN DURING SPRING TRAINING. JAPAN LOVES AMERICAN BASEBALL.

And Japan has their own league.  There have been a couple of instances where teams played two games to start the season in Japan.  But it is merely a publicity stunt.  There are even rumors the Giants will open their season in Taiwan next year.  But guess what...  The NHL has opened in Japan and in Europe almost every year.  But only to help sell the League.  There is no intention of placing teams in those countries.  That would be idiotic.

THEY WOULD BE STILL AA TO AAA AT BEST THEY ARE NOT THE MAJORS DON'T MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE NOT.

Somehow I don't think the Japanese fans would take kindly to being a minor league for North American baseball.

WELL YOU SEE HOW IT IS WORKING FOR THE BLUE JAYS.

Don't know what you mean by that.  Canada is about as close as it gets to being a 51st state without being a US state.

MAJOR LEAGUE JERSEYS AND OTHER THINGS SELL HIGH IN JAPAN.

That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years....

UNLIKE YOU I DON'T GO TO OTHER BULLSHIP SITES.

Nice little insult you placed so obviously in there.  I'm not going to stoop to your level.  I will only say that you have no idea what sites I like to frequent.  But if it was such a wide spread thing, other sites would have picked it up.  Until you provide evidence, I will just classify it like the rest of your tripe.  Not relevant.

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WHEN HE BECAME THE YANKEES.

Only because Ichiro was no longer playing in Japan!  But world wide, Ichiro was still more popular.  People love the guy.  Still do.  His Japanese entourage proves it.

WRONG LA HAS A HUGE MARKET IN JAPAN. KOBE IS HUGH IN JAPAN

No he's not.  I was there!   No one even knows what basketball is in that country.

WRONG

No, right.

SHOULD SAY SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER

Big deal.  In over 50 years of the NBA, many teams have had some of the best players play for them. 

YOU DON'T WATCH BASKETBALL

I don't have to.  I see and hear how it is marketed to the public.  It is never the Lakers vs the Cavs.  It is KOBE (and the lakers) vs LABRON (and the cavs)  At least, before he made a huge production about raising his middle finger to the team he used to play for.  You would NEVER see that in any other sport.  Only in basketball because it is all about the player.  Not the team.

SMOKED THE GIANTS AND RANGERS. SMOOOOOOOOOOKED THEM

Hardly.  2 points.  That's not "smoking" by ANY definition.

TBS IS A NATIONAL NETWORK IN A LOT OF AREAS MANY AREAS IT IS NOT.

It is a national network, but it is known for Andy Griffith reruns more than anything.  There just is NOTHING on TBS!  Who even watches it?  I had to look at my channel guide to even see where the hell it was on my system!  VERSUS gets more viewers than TBS!

OVER SEAS THEY SCORED HUGH 12 MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN ALONE.

No way.  11 million in the USA does NOT translate to 12 million in Japan.  A more realistic estimate would be 2 mil.  And even that would be high considering that the games all started around 10am locally.  I would ask where you came up with that figure but I know you will never confirm it with anything.

STILL BET WORLD SERIES THEN THE LAST ONE THAT NO ONE WATCHED.

Doesn't change the fact that the Yankees have been involved in the lowest rated world series ever.  Multiple times.  Also, the highest rated of all time didn't involve the Yankees.  Imagine that.

I SAY YOUR WRONG

You SAY that but you cannot come up with ANY reasons why.

THEY WERE NOT THAT BAD YANKEES AND PHILLIES DREW LARGE

No..  Those ratings SUCKED.   They were the 5th lowest EVER.  That sucks in anyone's book.  Except yours, of course.

.95 WINS AND MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

2nd place.  You know what people call teams who don't win?   LOSERS!

YOU WANT THE YANKEES TO SHARE SOME OF THE YES NETWORK WITH OTHER TEAM'S IN BASEBALL STUPID THEY DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY.

All teams are part of the same company.  If franchises fail, it is bad for the entire company.  I don't just want the Yankees to share.  I want ALL teams to share.  ALL teams will contribute.  It is not about going after only the Yankees.  It is about what is best for ALL of Major League baseball.  You don't understand that.  Where would the Yankees be if they only had 4 teams to play?

YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT FAIR FOR THE MOST POPULAR TEAM IN THE SPORT STRAIGHT UP.

Not only is it fair to the popular teams, it is fair to ALL teams regardless of popularity.  The league needs ALL teams to do well.  Not just a few.  You are not a baseball fan.  You are a selfish Yankee fan.  So that is something you don't seem to get.

NOOOOOOO NOT AT ALL YOU HAVE TO FIGURE HOW GOOD WOULD YOUR DIVISON BE IF YOU HAD TO FACE THE RED SOX AND YANKEES UP TOO 19 GAMES A YEAR.

That, AND you have to consider how they would be if they got to face the crappy Jays, Rays and O's 18 times a year too.  You keep forgetting about the crap teams in your division.

NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION THE YANKEES PLAYED IN MANY TEAMS WOULD BE THE YANKEES WHIPPING BOYS STRAIGHT UP.

GIANTS WOULD GET CRUSHED 18-19 GAMES A SEASON CRUSHED.

Not with the pitching they have.  Many eastern pundit thought the Rangers would beat the Giants since they beat the Rays, the best of the East.  But their bias didn't allow them to see how good the Giants pitching was.  Just like you.

EVERY PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PERSON KNOWS THE HARDEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL IS THE AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST 2008-2009-2010

Prove it.  That comment, like much of what you say, is horse dung.

FACT IF THE BLUE JAY WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION LAST YEAR THEY MIGHT OF MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

That is not a fact.  That is your speculation.  You don't even know the difference.  But my assessment is they likely wouldn't have.  They weren't very good at all.

You are just a hater of all things not Yankee.  Just admit to it.  You will feel as if a tremendous weight has been lifted from your soul...
YOUR ONLY LEAD OFF FOR THE MOST PART ONCE A GAME AFTER THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

If that is the case, why are all the slugging RBI guys batting 3rd and 4th?  They should bat leadoff, according to you...

TITLES IN AN INDIVIDUAL THING ALSO

No it isn't.  When was the last time one player won a World Series?  How come the Commissioner's Trophy doesn't go to a player?  SOOOOOOOO ITS THE OWNERS THAT HIT THE BALL IT IS THE GM THAT PITCHES THE BALL. IT IS THE MANAGER THE FIELDS THE BALL IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS. THE 5 WORLD SERIES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH DEREK JETER WHAT SO EVER. THE TEAM DID IT. DEREK JETER DIDN'T PLAY IN THE WORLD SERIES AND HELP WIN THE WORLD SERIES IT STUPID DUDE.       DEREK JETER WAS A KEY PART OF THE 5 WORLD SERIES TITLE HE HAS. HE HAS 5 RINGS BECAUSE HE HELPED WIN 5 RINGS. HE HAS AN WORLD SERIES MVP BECAUSE HE WAS THE KEY PROFORMER OF THE WORLD SERIES.       A TEAM MEAN A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUALS PLAYING FOR ONE COMMON THING. DEREK JETER IS AS MUCH PART OF YANKEES WINNING THE 5 WORLD SERIES AS ANY OTHER PLAYER IF NOT MORE THEN SOME PLAYERS.     DEREK JETER HELP THE YANKEES WIN 5 WORLD SERIES COMMISSIONER TROPHY WHICH IS MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN ANYTHING

BAD IF IT TAKES 50+ YEAR TO WIN SOMETHING A TEAM WHO LAST WON WERE DEREK JETER WON HIS 5 RINGS WELL SAME CITY.

So, your tactic in defending Jeter is to rip on an unrelated team.  That kind of deflection is the tactic of the person who cannot defend his own position and doesn't want to admit they were wrong to begin with. WELL IT IS THE TRUTH THE GIANTS DIDN'T WIN JACK FOR OVER 50 YEARS. YANKEES WIN A TITLE ONCE EVERY 4 YEARS NOT 50 YEARS. THAT IS THE AVERAGE REALLY LESS THE 4 YEARS. WHAT OTHER TEAM IN SPORTS CAN SAY THAT. "NONE"

BECAUSE YOUR TEAM DOESN'T GET BIG LEADS

Not usually...  But with the great pitching my team has, the other team rarely gets them either!  You know what else my team DOESN'T have?  $206 million to spend!  THE YANKEES WILL HAVE GREAT PITCHING 2011 THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE WITH CLIFF LEE THEY WILL CLEARLY HAVE THE BEST TEAM IN BASEBALL IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY. THE ROTATION WITH SABATHIA, LEE, HUGHES, PETTITTE IF HE RESIGNS AND AJ IS A REALLY GOOD ROTATION EVEN BETTER THEN YOUR GIANT'S ROTATION 1 TO 5. AJ ONE YEAR WILL PITCH LIKE HE CAN HE A REALLY GOOD PITCHER.        THE WANT THE YANKEES AND EXPECT THE YANKEES TO PUT THE MONEY THEY MAKE ON THE TEAM BUT THEY CAN STILL PUT MORE ON THE TEAM. THE YANKEES CAN HAVE A PAYROLL 100 MILLION MORE AND NOT BOTHER THEM THIS IS A FACT THEY MADE LIKE 600 MILLION LAST YEAR OVER ALL. MOST OF IT IS NOT LISTED LIKE EVERY OTHER TEAM. WHEN FORBES PUT OUT A LIST NOT ALL THE MONEY IS LISTED A TEAM MAKES THEY MAKE MORE A LOT MORE.

MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN A HIT RECORD IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

Actually not.  It takes far more skill to hit over 162 games than over 4 or 7.  Anyone can get hot for a week. YOU ARE CRAZY DUDE WHAT YOU DO IN THE POST SEASON IS FAR FAR FAR MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANYTHING YOU DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON. AS MANY PLAYERS SAY THE POST SEASON IS THE REAL SEASON. YOUR CRAZY DUDE.

BUT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MEAN NOTHING.

Almost nothing.  The World Series is all about the team winning it.  IT ABOUT 25 INDIVIDUALS FOR ONE COMMON GOAL LEAVE WITH THE WORLD SERIES. Players don't really care who gets the most hits in it as long as the TEAM wins it. BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE. DEREK JETER FOR WAS A KEY PART OF EVERY WORLD SERIES WIN.

DA UNLESS IT IS A HOME RUN THEN YOUR RUN WITHIN THE RBI.

Don't act like you knew it.  What you wrote earlier showed that you didn't. YOUR CRAZY DUDE I KNOW WHAT A RUN IS MY TEAM SCORES MORE THEN ANY TEAM. YAKEES SCORE MOOOOOOOOOOOOORE RUN'S THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL LAST YEAR. THEY ARE THE KING AT SCORING RUN.

IF HE HAS A GOOD SHOT AT STEALING HE IS GOING

Hey Mr Contradiction, you JUST said he DOESN'T steal.  Now you say he does.  HE STEALS ENOUGH TO MATTER FOR THE YANKEES BUT LIKE I SAID IT HARD WHEN YOU HAVE THE FUTURE HOME KING UP TO BAT. BUT HE CAN STEAL ANY TIME HE WANT'S

YANKEES SCORE THE MOST RUN'S YEAR AFTER YEAR

Yeah.  $206 million tends to do that.  Wonder how many runs they would score if their payroll was a mere $97 million... MONEY MONEY MONEY JEALOUS YOUR TEAM DOESN'T HAVE MONEY. THEY MAKE THE MONEY THEY PUT IT ON THE TEAM THAT IS MORE THEN MOST TEAM WHO POCKET THE MONEY. I RATHER HAVE THE MONEY ON THE TEAM RATHER THEN IN THE OWNERS POCKET. THE OWNERS DON'T NEED MORE MONEY THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH I LIKE TO SEE A GOOD PRODUCT ON THE FIELD.

SO THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING CORRECT SINCE THEY SCORE MORE RUN'S THEN EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL.;

What they are doing is spending more than twice the mean.  That doesn't mean they are doing anything right. THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL.        REPEAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL. It just means they have a ton of money. THEY USE IT WHY SHOULDN'T THEY USE THE MONEY THAT ON THE TEAM.

IT NOT THAT EASY OR DEREK JETER WOULD HAVE 3O HOME RUN'S THE MYTH IS YANKEE STADIUM IS AN EASY PARK TO HIT HOME RUN'S IN.

That is no myth.  The older one had short fences in the areas most players hit flies.  The new one is even more homer friendly. NOT ANYMORE THEY TOOK CARE OF THAT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE OTHER BUILDING STILL BE UP AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. If Jeter played at Phone Company Park he would struggle to hit 5. I SEEN HIM HIT TRUE HOME RUN MANY TIMES HE JUST DON'T HAVE TO HIT HOME RUN THAT A-ROD JOB TO HIT HOME RUN NOT DEREK JETER'S

YANKEE STADIUM ISN'T THAT BAD A PARK TO GET TRIPLES

And yet very few are hit there.  More are hit at Phone Company Park. WHO CARES I DON'T

SO TAKE THE PLAYERS OF THE FIELD AND LET THE OWNERS PLAY. THE PLAYERS DON'T PITCH. THEY DON'T HIT THE HOME RUN'S. THEY DON'T THROW THE DOUBLE PLAYS STRAIGHT UP DUDE. THE PLAYERS HAVE NO PART IN THE WORLD SERIES WIN. IT THE TEAM.



What the hell are you on about now?  You want to watch owners play? DEREK JETER YOUR WORST ISN'T PART OF THE WORLD SERIES WIN'S HE HAS. DEREK JETER DOESN'T HAVE 5 WORLD SERIE  You are deranged. THAT YOU BUB




WRONG I TOOK THEM THEY MAD ME STRONGER AND BETTER AT WHAT I WAS DOING STRAIGHT UP.

I promise you, they didn't make you a better baseball player because you never played.  You said you were a wrestler, where it is possible they might actually help.  Baseball is a very different discipline.  STERIOD MAKE YOU FOCUS MORE GIVE YOU MORE POWER WHICH MEAN THEY CAN HELP YOU HIT THE BALL OUT OF THE PARK BETTER. They can help in the brute force type of events.  But not in the more skillful ones...  Like baseball. WRONG THEY CAN HELP YOU IN BASEBALL. I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. VIN DOG SCHOOLED YOU ON THIS PART. Also, the statistics don't support steroids doing anything either. WELL PED'S AND OTHER DRUGS LIKE THAT. STATISTIC DO SHOW IT IF YOU THINK NO YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.


IT AS MUCH A TEAM SPORT IF NOT MORE THEN BASEBALL

Not even close.  In basketball, you can always give the ball to your best player with 2 seconds on the clock. NOT ALWAY'S MANY GAMES JORDAN GAVE THE SHOT TO ANOTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER LIKE STEVE KERR.  In baseball, you can't decide to bat your best hitter in the lineup in the 9th inning.

WELL BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES.

And what does that have to do with basketball being similar to baseball? JORDAN HAS 6 BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS. BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES RINGS AND BOND HAS NONE. BONDS WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT TO PLAY FOR THE YANKEES HE CHOSE ANOTHER TEAM WHICH WAS STUPID IF HE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES HE WOULD HAVE 4 OR SO WORLD SERIES RINGS.

T HE COULD OF PLAYED OUTFIELD.

And yet he didn't. DEREK JETER PLAYED AN MORE IMPORTANT POSTION SHORTSTOP IT TAKES FAR MORE SKILL TO BE A SHORT STOP THEN OUTFIELDER. YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN FASTER AT SHORT STOP.      VERY VERY VERY FAST.

MANNY FASTER THEN JETER NAAAA

Since when were we comparing Manny to Jeter? SHORT STOP TO OUTFIELD. MANNY AN OUTFIELDER IT AN EXAMPLE OF A PLAYER WHO USELESS AS A FIELDER BUT HAPPENS TO PLAY IN THE OUTFIELD.

WELL I SEE THAT ISUKI PLAY 162 GAMES NOT SMART EVEN FOR HIM. YOU NEED TO GET A REST FROM TIME TO TIME WHAT EVER YOU DO.

Some players can endure.  Ripken did it.  Suzuki seems he can too.  WHO HAS 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS NOT RIPKEN OR SUZUKI. Those are the iron horses of baseball. MATZUI WAS AN IRON HORSE SO WHAT IT DIDN'T HELP THE YANKEES AT ALL HE DIDN'T GET REST.



CENTERFIELDER THEN YOU HAVE THE LEFT AND RIGHT FIELDERS.

Except, on the school yard and in LL, the worst player was often placed in right field.  Yet right field in the Majors is often where you put your best defensive outfielder CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER FOR WHAT I SEE. LEFT FIELD USALLY HAS THE WORST FIELDER MANNY FOR EXAMPLE. HE IS A JOKE FIELDER.  The same position Suzuki plays, btw. CENTERFIELD IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FIELDER HE HAS TO COVER MORE AREA THEN BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT FIELDERS.  BUT THEY PUT THE BETTER FIELDERS IN THE IN FIELD FOR THE MOST PART..             EXAMPLE THE BEST FIELDERS FOR THE YANKEES ARE THE INFIELDERS AND ALL 4 PLAYERS HAVE GOLD GLOVES TO SHOW IT.

ADEQUATE IS ALL YOU REALLY NEED.

Perhaps.  But you were talking about how GREAT he was.  Now you agree that he was just adequate? HE A GREAT ADEQUATE PLAYER DOES WHAT IS BEST FOR THE TEAM NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

WELL BUT HE ISN'T THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN THE MATSUI

No.  Ichiro is still more popular than Matsui.  I was there last year.  I saw it first hand. ON LITTLE PART MAYBE BUT MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER WHEN THEY WERE BOTH PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH MATSUI WIN THE WORLD SERIES MVP.    

You are rounding up to make it look better, but in terms of TV viewers, that number is pathetically low. WATCH CNN THEY SAID 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN WATCH THE FINAL WORLD SERIES GAME IN WHICH MATSUI WON THE WORLD SERIES MVP. THIS IS CNN THIS IS JAPAN. CNN A REAL NEWS CHANNEL.   the NFL gets that kind of viewers for pre-season games.

I BET SOMEONE LIKE THE BLUE JAY'S COULD WIN IN JAPAN A LOT.

No way to know for sure.  But I think the average MLB team would probably fare better over there.  But this is because the Japanese teams are made up of only locals.  WELL MANY AMERICAN PLAYERS ARE IN JAPAN SO. The MLB teams are made of of the best players from all over the WORLD.
However, Japan haw won both WBC's so far... THAT IS A BULL SHIT GAME. PLAY THE WBC WHEN IT ALL STAR TIME NOT WHEN MOST PLAYERS ARE DOING THE SPRING TRAINING THING. THAT BULLSHIP AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS BULLSHIP. I think that means that their top players are at least as good as the rest of the World's top players. NOT AT ALL.

FOOL IT RUTH BY FAR.

Not by far.  It is actually VERY close.  I give it to Ruth only because he pitched successfully for a little bit.  But Mays was a thousand times the outfielder Ruth was. BABE RUTH WAS A GOOD FIELDER MANY THINK HE WASN'T BUT YOU READ BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS HE WAS A GOOD ALL AROUND PLAYER. IT IS A MYTH BABE RUTH WAS A BAD FIELDER LIKE A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT BABE RUTH.

I DON'T FOLLOW HOCKEY SO I DON'T CARE.

Yeah.  You wouldn't follow a rough sport like hockey. I WATCH FOOTBALL A REAL MAN SPORT. THAT A ROUGH SPORT. I LIKE MMA ROUGHER YET, BOXING AMONG OTHER STUFF. Just using a better example than you did, that's all.

LOL THEY ALL DO.

There is a difference between a little wager here and there.  Many people do it.  It is when it becomes a problem when the person becomes a degenerate.  WELL HE OWN'S A TEAM MUST NOT BE THAT BAD AT BETTING REALLY. Like Rose and Jordan. JORDAN AND BONDS CHILLED A LOT THEY MUST OF CHILLED IN VEGAS MANY TIMES. At least Jordan was smart enough not to bet on the NBA when he played.... 

WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE

I know exactly what they are.  One doesn't need to take them to know that.  But as far as how they benefit a baseball player?  There is no agreement in the medical community and the stats from the era don't support that steroids did anything unusual.  Plus, more pitchers have been tested positive than hitters.  Go figure that one out.... YOU HAVE REALLY NO CLUE WHAT PED'S NONE. WATCH THE MOVIE THE HULK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT PED'S CAN DO IT NOT THAT BAD BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HULK OR INCRIDBLE HULK.

THEY HELP..

Not to hit home runs.WELL THEY DO LOL.  There is no data to support that.

THE STUFF THE PLAYERS TAKE ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

Exactly how would you know that?  And instead of giving me your usual vomit, just post a link instead. WELL THE PED'S THAT ATHELETS ARE GIVING ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATE THEY ARE YOU DON'T NEED ANY POST TO KNOW THIS LOL. PREMOBOLIN IS BANED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS IS AMONG OTHER PED'S NOT ALL PED ARE STERIODS SO.

WHEN THEY SAY A PLAYER HIT A MOON SHOT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HIT THE MOON IT MEAN'S THEY HIT THE BALL FAR.

Not the same.  We all know that vernacular.  But you claimed other teams contribute NOTHING. VERNACULAR STILL THE SAME. I CAN SAY OPRAH IS WORTH NOTHING COMPARED TO BILL GATES WHICH IS TRUE DOESN'T MEAN SHE ISN'T WORTH A LOT OF CASH TO US.

BUD ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TEAMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS HE SAID IN 14 YEARS

And yet it was never reported ANYWHERE.  SPORTS RADIO HE EVEN SAID IT IS HARD TO EXPAND MLB IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE FUTURE IS IN OTHER COUNTRY'S. Weird how only you know about this. FAN'S IN NEW YORK KNOW THIS HE DID THE INTERVIEW LIKE 4 YEARS AGO SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE GOTTON AND ALREADY FOREIGN RICH PEOPLE ARE BUYING AMERICAN TEAM'S IT IS A START.

BUD SAID IT IN MANY INTERVIEWS HE WANT TO OPEN THE MARKETS TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

I knew it.   Dude...  That doesn't mean he plans to put Major League teams in those countries!!!  Learn to read. WELL I DISAGREE HE SAID HE WANT TO TAP INTO OTHER MARKETS IN THE FUTURE. THE NBA AND NHL IS GOING TO GO TOO ANOTHER COUNTRY SOONER OR LATER THEY ARE EASY TO DO BECAUSE AN ARENA IS AN ARENA. BASEBALL STADIUMS AND FIELDS ARE HUGE  MAYBE THEY CAN PLAY IN SOCCER STADIUMS ONLY WAY THEY CAN DO THAT CHEAPLY THEY CAN'T BUILD COUNTLESS STADIUMS THAT COST A BILLION DOLLARS EACH.  BUT ALL THAT SAID I SEE IT HAPPENING ALL YOU NEED IS THE NBA AND NHL GOING WEST BOTH ARE HUGE ACCROSS THE OCEAN'S.

! LOL THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE THE ONE TEAM IN ONE THE SAME AREAS

It's not going to happen.  You don't see the future.  You are seeing what you WISH.  Quite a different thing.  I see reality.  MLB wants to open up foreign markets so they can see games and buy their stuff. BEST WAY TO OPEN THE MARKETS IS TO HAVE A PRODUCT ON THE SOIL. DAVID STEIRN SAID HE GOING TO HAVE A TEAM IN EUROPE SOONER OR LATER. MLB OFFICE IS IN NEW YORK SO WE CAN GET MORE INFO THEN MOST FASTER. Promote the sport so maybe they can have a new pool of talent for the AMERICAN Major Leagues to get players.  Never ever has Bud said he wants to put expansion teams in Asia or Europe. HE HAS SAID IT HE SAID IT THE FUTURE OF BASEBALL FACE IT THE FUTURE IS OVER SEA'S YOU DON'T WANNA SEA AMERICAN BASEBALL OVER SEA BUT THEY CAN MAKE ALOT OF MONEY OVER SEA'S  Bud is an idiot when it comes to baseball.  But he isn't that stupid when it comes to business.  WELL I GUESS HE IS AN IDIOT BECAUSE HE BEEN TESTING IT FOR YEARS. SOONER OR LATER YOU WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF TEAM'S OVER SEA'S IT WILL HAPPEN IN MY LIFE TIME.

WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE GAMES EVERY SO OFTEN IN JAPAN DURING SPRING TRAINING. JAPAN LOVES AMERICAN BASEBALL.

And Japan has their own league.  There have been a couple of instances where teams played two games to start the season in Japan.  But it is merely a publicity stunt.  WHY WHEN IT EASYER TO PLAY THE GAME IN AMERICA WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO DO THAT. YOU CAN HAVE THE PIRATES AND ROYAL PLAY IN JAPN IT WILL SELL OUT. There are even rumors the Giants will open their season in Taiwan next year.  But guess what...  The NHL has opened in Japan and in Europe almost every year.  But only to help sell the League.  There is no intention of placing teams in those countries. WELL NBA HAS SPOKE ABOUT IT THEY CAN DO IT WITH NHL. AS SOON AS ONE BITES THEY WILL ALL BITE. NBA AND NHL CAN BOTH PLAY IN THE SAME PLACE PLAYER AREA ARE SIMILAR SIZED. EVEN ARENA FOOTBALL CAN GO OVER SEA'S. ONLY WAY TO DO BASEBALL IS PLAY IN SOCCER STADIUMS I THINK IT CAN HAPPEN. That would be idiotic.

THEY WOULD BE STILL AA TO AAA AT BEST THEY ARE NOT THE MAJORS DON'T MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE NOT.

Somehow I don't think the Japanese fans would take kindly to being a minor league for North American baseball. SO WHAT IT IS TRUE THEY ARE NOT AS GOOD AS MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL THIS IS FACT. THEY ARE TRAINED DIFFERENT THE HAVE PITCHERS PITCH ONCE A WEEK. THEY DO EVERY DIFFERENTLY.

WELL YOU SEE HOW IT IS WORKING FOR THE BLUE JAYS. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING IT HARD.

Don't know what you mean by that.  Canada is about as close as it gets to being a 51st state without being a US state. BLUE JAY'S ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME IN CANADA.

MAJOR LEAGUE JERSEYS AND OTHER THINGS SELL HIGH IN JAPAN.

That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years....WELL JAPAN HONOR AMERICAN BASEBALL THEY DO THEY BUY A LOT OF GEAR FROM THE UNITED STATES.

UNLIKE YOU I DON'T GO TO OTHER BULLSHIP SITES.

Nice little insult you placed so obviously in there.  I'm not going to stoop to your level.  I will only say that you have no idea what sites I like to frequent. LOL. GO TO MLB, YAHOO, ESPN, CNN AMONG OTHER SITE FOX REAL SITES.  But if it was such a wide spread thing, other sites would have picked it up.  Until you provide evidence, I will just classify it like the rest of your tripe. I WON'T USE OTHER SITES WHY BECAUSE I KNOW MOST ARE BULL I WOULDN'T EVEN WASTE MY TIME ON IT AT ALL. Not relevant. IF IT'S NOT A NAMED SITE I DON'T FOLLOW IT I DON'T GO TO BS SITES TO PROVE IM RIGHT I DON'T TAKE IT LIKE THAT NOT AT ALL.

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WHEN HE BECAME THE YANKEES.

Only because Ichiro was no longer playing in Japan! THIS WAS WHEN THEY WERE PLAYING. MATSUI TEAM IS LIKE THE YANKEES OF JAPAN IT VERY POPULAR IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP.  But world wide, Ichiro was still more popular. NOT JAPAN  People love the guy.  Still do.  His Japanese entourage proves it. MATSUI HAS AN ENTOURAGE ALSO LOL FOOL WOW YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. MATSUI WAS A BIGGER STAR IN JAPAN IT IS FACT MATSUI BEEN A YANKEE FOR YEARS I AND MOST NEW YORKERS KNOW THIS YOUR CRAZY TO THINK ICHIRO IS A BIGGER STAR THEN MATSUI. MATSUI IS LIKE JORDAN IN JAPAN STRAIGHT UP WAS A FAR BIGGER STAR AND AT THE TIME A BETTER STAR.

WRONG LA HAS A HUGE MARKET IN JAPAN. KOBE IS HUGH IN JAPAN

No he's not.  I was there!   HE IS HUGES IN JAPAN LOOK AT THE SHOE SELLS IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP DO SOME OF YOUR HOMEWORK HE SELLS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SHOES IN JAPAN. No one even knows what basketball is in that country. I DISAGREE LOL CHINA IT IS BIG. JAPAN IT IS BIG YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR A HATER OF BLACK SPORTS. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NFL BLACK SPORT OR NBA BLACK SPORT. NHL WHITE SPORT, MLB STILL A WHITE SPORT. SOCCER WHITE SPORT.



SHOULD SAY SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER

Big deal.  In over 50 years of the NBA, many teams have had some of the best players play for them.

YOU DON'T WATCH BASKETBALL

I don't have to.  I see and hear how it is marketed to the public.  It is never the Lakers vs the Cavs.  It is KOBE (and the lakers) vs LABRON (and the cavs)  At least, before he made a huge production about raising his middle finger to the team he used to play for.  You would NEVER see that in any other sport.  Only in basketball because it is all about the player.  Not the team.LOL

SMOKED THE GIANTS AND RANGERS. SMOOOOOOOOOOKED THEM

Hardly.  2 points.  That's not "smoking" by ANY definition. STILL DID BETTER THEN YOUR TEAM LOL FACE IT YOUR TEAM IS COMPLETE JUNK GET REAL WITH IT DUDE LOL.

TBS IS A NATIONAL NETWORK IN A LOT OF AREAS MANY AREAS IT IS NOT.

It is a national network, but it is known for Andy Griffith reruns more than anything. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ANDY GRIFFITH ANYMORE THEY ARE ON TV LAND VIACOM OWN THEM. TIME WARNER OWN'S TBS.  There just is NOTHING on TBS!  Who even watches it?  I had to look at my channel guide to even see where the hell it was on my system!  VERSUS gets more viewers than TBS! I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT TBS BEEN AROUND FOR EVERY THEY HAVE GOOD SHOWS ON IT. CONAN IS ON TBS FOR HEAVEN SAKES. ALL I SEE ON VERSUS IS ROCKY V THE WORST OF THE SERIES LOL IT IS A JOKE. NHL IS A JOKE

OVER SEAS THEY SCORED HUGH 12 MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN ALONE. WELL CNN SAID SO TWELVE MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN WATCH THE FINAL GAME OF THE WORLD SERIES YOUR JUST A HATER IN 2009 LOL. YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN SCORE 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN. IT WAS ON MSNBC, CNN AMONG OTHER CHANNELS I WATCH PLENTY OF NEW'S DO IT ONCE IN A WHILE LOL YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING. LOL INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE WORLD LIKE A ZOMBIE AS YOU DO.

No way.  11 million in the USA does NOT translate to 12 million in Japan.12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN IN 2009 FACT CNN ISN'T GOING TO LIE YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN DO WELL IN JAPAN.  A more realistic estimate would be 2 mil.  12 MILLION VIEWERS. And even that would be high considering that the games all started around 10am locally. THEY STILL WATCH IT NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. I would ask where you came up with that figure but I know you will never confirm it with anything. CNN NOT ON THE INTERNET CNN THEY HAVE SOME CHANNELS OVER IN JAPAN ALSO MANY MIGHT OF THEM MIGHT HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO TAPE CNN FOR A ZOMBIE NOPE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LOL

STILL BET WORLD SERIES THEN THE LAST ONE THAT NO ONE WATCHED.

Doesn't change the fact that the Yankees have been involved in the lowest rated world series ever.  Multiple times. YOUR ONE ONE OF THE WORST RATED ITSELF FAIR IS FAIR. Also, the highest rated of all time didn't involve the Yankees. THE HIGHEST VIEWERSHIP IS THE YANKEES LOOK IT UP. LOL BUT ZOMBIES CAN READ SO IMAGINE THAT JOHN LENNON. Imagine that.


THEY WERE NOT THAT BAD YANKEES AND PHILLIES DREW LARGE

No..  Those ratings SUCKED.   They were the 5th lowest EVER.  That sucks in anyone's book.  Except yours, of course.

.95 WINS AND MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

2nd place.  You know what people call teams who don't win?   LOSERS! YOUR A LOSER YOUR A FAN OF A LOSER TEAM. YOUR A FAN OF SOCCER AN LOSER SPORT. YOUR A SWIMMER SO YOUR A PANSY ATHLETE. IF THE YANKEES ARE LOSERS SO WHY DO YOU WANT THE MONEY THEY MAKE LOL GO FIGURE WHY YOU WORRIED ABOUT A 206 MILLION DOLLAR LOSER TEAM THAT CAN'T WIN JACK. YOUR GIANTS ARE LOSERS FACE IT.

YOU WANT THE YANKEES TO SHARE SOME OF THE YES NETWORK WITH OTHER TEAM'S IN BASEBALL STUPID THEY DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY.

All teams are part of the same company.  If franchises fail, it is bad for the entire company.  I don't just want the Yankees to share.  I want ALL teams to share.  ALL teams will contribute.   It is not about going after only the Yankees.  It is about what is best for ALL of Major League baseball.  You don't understand that.  Where would the Yankees be if they only had 4 teams to play? THEY CAN MAKE THERE OWN LEAGUE LOL. THEY HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY. YANKEES ARE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE MLB BASEBALL. MLB IS WORTH OVER 5 BILLION DOLLARS. YANKEES ARE WORTH THREE OR FOUR BILLION DOLLARS THEMSELVES. IT NOT ALL BASEBALL PROPERTY BECAUSE THE YANKEES ARE NOT JUST BASEBALL ANYMORE. YOU WANT TO SHARE EVERY WHAT ARE THE PIRATES AND GIANTS AN OTHER TEAM'S LIKE THAT GOING TO PUT IN THE TILL NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE'S THAT IS FOR SURE PLUS YOU WANT TO CAP THE YANKEES. YOU WANT THE YANKEES MONEY AND CAP THEM THAT IS STUPID.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT FAIR FOR THE MOST POPULAR TEAM IN THE SPORT STRAIGHT UP.

Not only is it fair to the popular teams, it is fair to ALL teams regardless of popularity.  The league needs ALL teams to do well.  Not just a few.  You are not a baseball fan.  You are a selfish Yankee fan.  So that is something you don't seem to get. LOL I WANT MY TEAM TO DO WELL I CARE ABOUT THAT AND ALL I NEED TO CARE ABOUT. BASEBALL DOING OK WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF THE TEAM'S THAT DON'T PRODUCE AND LET THOSE FREE AGENTS GO TOO OTHER TEAM. MAKE OTHER TEAMS THAT DO WELL BETTER.

NOOOOOOO NOT AT ALL YOU HAVE TO FIGURE HOW GOOD WOULD YOUR DIVISON BE IF YOU HAD TO FACE THE RED SOX AND YANKEES UP TOO 19 GAMES A YEAR.

That, AND you have to consider how they would be if they got to face the crappy Jays, Rays and O's 18 times a year too.  You keep forgetting about the crap teams in your division. BULL THEY WOULD DO WELL IN LET SAY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE. JAY WOULD CRUSH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE WEST THEY ARE A GOOD TEAM BUT THEY HAVE TO FACE THREE OTHER GOOD TEAMS AND THE O'S ARE NOT PUSH OVER THEY CAN GIVE YOU PROBLEMS

NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION THE YANKEES PLAYED IN MANY TEAMS WOULD BE THE YANKEES WHIPPING BOYS STRAIGHT UP.

GIANTS WOULD GET CRUSHED 18-19 GAMES A SEASON CRUSHED.

Not with the pitching they have.1  Many eastern pundit thought the Rangers would beat the Giants since they beat the Rays, the best of the East.  But their bias didn't allow them to see how good the Giants pitching was.  Just like you.    LOL I WANT THE GIANTS IN THE WORLD SERIES NEXT YEAR VS. THE YANKEES LOL LET IT HAPPEN PLEASE BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THE GIANT'S CAN EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN LOL.

EVERY PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PERSON KNOWS THE HARDEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL IS THE AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST 2008-2009-2010

Prove it.  That comment, like much of what you say, is horse dung. LOOK IT UP DO WATCH ESPN, MLB NETWORK EVEN THE NEW MET MANAGERS SAID THE AL HAVE BETTER LINEUP YESTERDAY. HE SAID THE NL 6 HOLE HITTER. WOULD BE THE AL NINE HITTER INSULTING TO THE NL THAT HOW STRONGER THE AL IS. NL CAN CLEAR 1-6 STRONG BUT AL 1-9 STRONG. THIS IS AN NATIONAL LEAGUE MANAGER

FACT IF THE BLUE JAY WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION LAST YEAR THEY MIGHT OF MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

That is not a fact.  That is your speculation.  You don't even know the difference.  But my assessment is they likely wouldn't have.  They weren't very good at all. 2010 THE JAYS WAS A SOLID, IF THE JAY'S WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION THEY WOULD OF MADE THE PLAYOFF'S THIS WAS SAID BY EVEN ESPN IT SELF. YOUR A HATER THIS IS IT IM DONE WITH YOUR FOR GOOD THIS TIME



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You are just a hater of all things not Yankee.  Just admit to it.  You will feel as if a tremendous weight has been lifted from your soul...
Babe Ruth  
#121 | 1430 days ago

(Edited by TatsuKlinga2812812)
Pat wrote:
But Felix Hernandez was better. And the Cy Young is supposed to go to the best pitcher in the league.

Instead of going off on ridiculous tangents, why don't you tell us why Sabathia or Price were better than Hernandez? I can give you a bunch of reasons why Felix was better, so go ahead and try to give reasons why he wasn't. I'd love to hear your reasoning here.
I don't think number mean anything in baseball. ONLY NUMBER THAT MEAN'S ANYTHING IS BEING 1 RUN AHEAD OF THE TEAM YOUR FACING that all that matters. I just think when CC and Price won the game's it just mean's more for the team then when Felix won. NO MATTER WHAT FELIZ DID IT MEAN'S NOTHING TO THE TEAM THE TEAM WAS GOING NO WHERE. His win's mean nothing to a losing team. ONE OF THE WORST TEAM'S IN THE BUSINESS. When I look a numbers I wanna see them have impact on getting you into the playoffs. ITS NOT A YANKEE THING BUT A WINNING THING. I THINK WITH AWARDS LIKE MVP AND CY YOUNG WINNING SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. Sabathia and Price both done that when it matter they got the team into the playoffs. To me that mean's more to me then anything. MOST IMPORTANT NUMBER WINNING WINNING WINNING.

DID FELIX HAVE A GOOD YEAR OF COURSE BUT NOT AS GOOD OF A YEAR AS BOTH SABATHIA OR PRICE they both made the playoffs.
Babe Ruth  
#122 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
YOUR ONLY LEAD OFF FOR THE MOST PART ONCE A GAME AFTER THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

If that is the case, why are all the slugging RBI guys batting 3rd and 4th?  They should bat leadoff, according to you...

TITLES IN AN INDIVIDUAL THING ALSO

No it isn't.  When was the last time one player won a World Series?  How come the Commissioner's Trophy doesn't go to a player?  SOOOOOOOO ITS THE OWNERS THAT HIT THE BALL IT IS THE GM THAT PITCHES THE BALL. IT IS THE MANAGER THE FIELDS THE BALL IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS. THE 5 WORLD SERIES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH DEREK JETER WHAT SO EVER. THE TEAM DID IT. DEREK JETER DIDN'T PLAY IN THE WORLD SERIES AND HELP WIN THE WORLD SERIES IT STUPID DUDE.       DEREK JETER WAS A KEY PART OF THE 5 WORLD SERIES TITLE HE HAS. HE HAS 5 RINGS BECAUSE HE HELPED WIN 5 RINGS. HE HAS AN WORLD SERIES MVP BECAUSE HE WAS THE KEY PROFORMER OF THE WORLD SERIES.       A TEAM MEAN A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUALS PLAYING FOR ONE COMMON THING. DEREK JETER IS AS MUCH PART OF YANKEES WINNING THE 5 WORLD SERIES AS ANY OTHER PLAYER IF NOT MORE THEN SOME PLAYERS.     DEREK JETER HELP THE YANKEES WIN 5 WORLD SERIES COMMISSIONER TROPHY WHICH IS MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN ANYTHING

BAD IF IT TAKES 50+ YEAR TO WIN SOMETHING A TEAM WHO LAST WON WERE DEREK JETER WON HIS 5 RINGS WELL SAME CITY.

So, your tactic in defending Jeter is to rip on an unrelated team.  That kind of deflection is the tactic of the person who cannot defend his own position and doesn't want to admit they were wrong to begin with. WELL IT IS THE TRUTH THE GIANTS DIDN'T WIN JACK FOR OVER 50 YEARS. YANKEES WIN A TITLE ONCE EVERY 4 YEARS NOT 50 YEARS. THAT IS THE AVERAGE REALLY LESS THE 4 YEARS. WHAT OTHER TEAM IN SPORTS CAN SAY THAT. "NONE"

BECAUSE YOUR TEAM DOESN'T GET BIG LEADS

Not usually...  But with the great pitching my team has, the other team rarely gets them either!  You know what else my team DOESN'T have?  $206 million to spend!  THE YANKEES WILL HAVE GREAT PITCHING 2011 THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE WITH CLIFF LEE THEY WILL CLEARLY HAVE THE BEST TEAM IN BASEBALL IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY. THE ROTATION WITH SABATHIA, LEE, HUGHES, PETTITTE IF HE RESIGNS AND AJ IS A REALLY GOOD ROTATION EVEN BETTER THEN YOUR GIANT'S ROTATION 1 TO 5. AJ ONE YEAR WILL PITCH LIKE HE CAN HE A REALLY GOOD PITCHER.        THE WANT THE YANKEES AND EXPECT THE YANKEES TO PUT THE MONEY THEY MAKE ON THE TEAM BUT THEY CAN STILL PUT MORE ON THE TEAM. THE YANKEES CAN HAVE A PAYROLL 100 MILLION MORE AND NOT BOTHER THEM THIS IS A FACT THEY MADE LIKE 600 MILLION LAST YEAR OVER ALL. MOST OF IT IS NOT LISTED LIKE EVERY OTHER TEAM. WHEN FORBES PUT OUT A LIST NOT ALL THE MONEY IS LISTED A TEAM MAKES THEY MAKE MORE A LOT MORE.

MORE IMPRESSIVE THEN A HIT RECORD IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

Actually not.  It takes far more skill to hit over 162 games than over 4 or 7.  Anyone can get hot for a week. YOU ARE CRAZY DUDE WHAT YOU DO IN THE POST SEASON IS FAR FAR FAR MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANYTHING YOU DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON. AS MANY PLAYERS SAY THE POST SEASON IS THE REAL SEASON. YOUR CRAZY DUDE.

BUT WORLD SERIES RECORDS MEAN NOTHING.

Almost nothing.  The World Series is all about the team winning it.  IT ABOUT 25 INDIVIDUALS FOR ONE COMMON GOAL LEAVE WITH THE WORLD SERIES. Players don't really care who gets the most hits in it as long as the TEAM wins it. BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE. DEREK JETER FOR WAS A KEY PART OF EVERY WORLD SERIES WIN.

DA UNLESS IT IS A HOME RUN THEN YOUR RUN WITHIN THE RBI.

Don't act like you knew it.  What you wrote earlier showed that you didn't. YOUR CRAZY DUDE I KNOW WHAT A RUN IS MY TEAM SCORES MORE THEN ANY TEAM. YAKEES SCORE MOOOOOOOOOOOOORE RUN'S THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL LAST YEAR. THEY ARE THE KING AT SCORING RUN.

IF HE HAS A GOOD SHOT AT STEALING HE IS GOING

Hey Mr Contradiction, you JUST said he DOESN'T steal.  Now you say he does.  HE STEALS ENOUGH TO MATTER FOR THE YANKEES BUT LIKE I SAID IT HARD WHEN YOU HAVE THE FUTURE HOME KING UP TO BAT. BUT HE CAN STEAL ANY TIME HE WANT'S

YANKEES SCORE THE MOST RUN'S YEAR AFTER YEAR

Yeah.  $206 million tends to do that.  Wonder how many runs they would score if their payroll was a mere $97 million... MONEY MONEY MONEY JEALOUS YOUR TEAM DOESN'T HAVE MONEY. THEY MAKE THE MONEY THEY PUT IT ON THE TEAM THAT IS MORE THEN MOST TEAM WHO POCKET THE MONEY. I RATHER HAVE THE MONEY ON THE TEAM RATHER THEN IN THE OWNERS POCKET. THE OWNERS DON'T NEED MORE MONEY THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH I LIKE TO SEE A GOOD PRODUCT ON THE FIELD.

SO THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING CORRECT SINCE THEY SCORE MORE RUN'S THEN EVERY TEAM IN BASEBALL.;

What they are doing is spending more than twice the mean.  That doesn't mean they are doing anything right. THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL.        REPEAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL. It just means they have a ton of money. THEY USE IT WHY SHOULDN'T THEY USE THE MONEY THAT ON THE TEAM.

IT NOT THAT EASY OR DEREK JETER WOULD HAVE 3O HOME RUN'S THE MYTH IS YANKEE STADIUM IS AN EASY PARK TO HIT HOME RUN'S IN.

That is no myth.  The older one had short fences in the areas most players hit flies.  The new one is even more homer friendly. NOT ANYMORE THEY TOOK CARE OF THAT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE OTHER BUILDING STILL BE UP AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. If Jeter played at Phone Company Park he would struggle to hit 5. I SEEN HIM HIT TRUE HOME RUN MANY TIMES HE JUST DON'T HAVE TO HIT HOME RUN THAT A-ROD JOB TO HIT HOME RUN NOT DEREK JETER'S

YANKEE STADIUM ISN'T THAT BAD A PARK TO GET TRIPLES

And yet very few are hit there.  More are hit at Phone Company Park. WHO CARES I DON'T

SO TAKE THE PLAYERS OF THE FIELD AND LET THE OWNERS PLAY. THE PLAYERS DON'T PITCH. THEY DON'T HIT THE HOME RUN'S. THEY DON'T THROW THE DOUBLE PLAYS STRAIGHT UP DUDE. THE PLAYERS HAVE NO PART IN THE WORLD SERIES WIN. IT THE TEAM.



What the hell are you on about now?  You want to watch owners play? DEREK JETER YOUR WORST ISN'T PART OF THE WORLD SERIES WIN'S HE HAS. DEREK JETER DOESN'T HAVE 5 WORLD SERIE  You are deranged. THAT YOU BUB




WRONG I TOOK THEM THEY MAD ME STRONGER AND BETTER AT WHAT I WAS DOING STRAIGHT UP.

I promise you, they didn't make you a better baseball player because you never played.  You said you were a wrestler, where it is possible they might actually help.  Baseball is a very different discipline.  STERIOD MAKE YOU FOCUS MORE GIVE YOU MORE POWER WHICH MEAN THEY CAN HELP YOU HIT THE BALL OUT OF THE PARK BETTER. They can help in the brute force type of events.  But not in the more skillful ones...  Like baseball. WRONG THEY CAN HELP YOU IN BASEBALL. I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. VIN DOG SCHOOLED YOU ON THIS PART. Also, the statistics don't support steroids doing anything either. WELL PED'S AND OTHER DRUGS LIKE THAT. STATISTIC DO SHOW IT IF YOU THINK NO YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.


IT AS MUCH A TEAM SPORT IF NOT MORE THEN BASEBALL

Not even close.  In basketball, you can always give the ball to your best player with 2 seconds on the clock. NOT ALWAY'S MANY GAMES JORDAN GAVE THE SHOT TO ANOTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER LIKE STEVE KERR.  In baseball, you can't decide to bat your best hitter in the lineup in the 9th inning.

WELL BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES.

And what does that have to do with basketball being similar to baseball? JORDAN HAS 6 BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS. BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES RINGS AND BOND HAS NONE. BONDS WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT TO PLAY FOR THE YANKEES HE CHOSE ANOTHER TEAM WHICH WAS STUPID IF HE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES HE WOULD HAVE 4 OR SO WORLD SERIES RINGS.

T HE COULD OF PLAYED OUTFIELD.

And yet he didn't. DEREK JETER PLAYED AN MORE IMPORTANT POSTION SHORTSTOP IT TAKES FAR MORE SKILL TO BE A SHORT STOP THEN OUTFIELDER. YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN FASTER AT SHORT STOP.      VERY VERY VERY FAST.

MANNY FASTER THEN JETER NAAAA

Since when were we comparing Manny to Jeter? SHORT STOP TO OUTFIELD. MANNY AN OUTFIELDER IT AN EXAMPLE OF A PLAYER WHO USELESS AS A FIELDER BUT HAPPENS TO PLAY IN THE OUTFIELD.

WELL I SEE THAT ISUKI PLAY 162 GAMES NOT SMART EVEN FOR HIM. YOU NEED TO GET A REST FROM TIME TO TIME WHAT EVER YOU DO.

Some players can endure.  Ripken did it.  Suzuki seems he can too.  WHO HAS 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS NOT RIPKEN OR SUZUKI. Those are the iron horses of baseball. MATZUI WAS AN IRON HORSE SO WHAT IT DIDN'T HELP THE YANKEES AT ALL HE DIDN'T GET REST.



CENTERFIELDER THEN YOU HAVE THE LEFT AND RIGHT FIELDERS.

Except, on the school yard and in LL, the worst player was often placed in right field.  Yet right field in the Majors is often where you put your best defensive outfielder CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER FOR WHAT I SEE. LEFT FIELD USALLY HAS THE WORST FIELDER MANNY FOR EXAMPLE. HE IS A JOKE FIELDER.  The same position Suzuki plays, btw. CENTERFIELD IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FIELDER HE HAS TO COVER MORE AREA THEN BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT FIELDERS.  BUT THEY PUT THE BETTER FIELDERS IN THE IN FIELD FOR THE MOST PART..             EXAMPLE THE BEST FIELDERS FOR THE YANKEES ARE THE INFIELDERS AND ALL 4 PLAYERS HAVE GOLD GLOVES TO SHOW IT.

ADEQUATE IS ALL YOU REALLY NEED.

Perhaps.  But you were talking about how GREAT he was.  Now you agree that he was just adequate? HE A GREAT ADEQUATE PLAYER DOES WHAT IS BEST FOR THE TEAM NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

WELL BUT HE ISN'T THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN THE MATSUI

No.  Ichiro is still more popular than Matsui.  I was there last year.  I saw it first hand. ON LITTLE PART MAYBE BUT MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER WHEN THEY WERE BOTH PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH MATSUI WIN THE WORLD SERIES MVP.    

You are rounding up to make it look better, but in terms of TV viewers, that number is pathetically low. WATCH CNN THEY SAID 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN WATCH THE FINAL WORLD SERIES GAME IN WHICH MATSUI WON THE WORLD SERIES MVP. THIS IS CNN THIS IS JAPAN. CNN A REAL NEWS CHANNEL.   the NFL gets that kind of viewers for pre-season games.

I BET SOMEONE LIKE THE BLUE JAY'S COULD WIN IN JAPAN A LOT.

No way to know for sure.  But I think the average MLB team would probably fare better over there.  But this is because the Japanese teams are made up of only locals.  WELL MANY AMERICAN PLAYERS ARE IN JAPAN SO. The MLB teams are made of of the best players from all over the WORLD.
However, Japan haw won both WBC's so far... THAT IS A BULL SHIT GAME. PLAY THE WBC WHEN IT ALL STAR TIME NOT WHEN MOST PLAYERS ARE DOING THE SPRING TRAINING THING. THAT BULLSHIP AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS BULLSHIP. I think that means that their top players are at least as good as the rest of the World's top players. NOT AT ALL.

FOOL IT RUTH BY FAR.

Not by far.  It is actually VERY close.  I give it to Ruth only because he pitched successfully for a little bit.  But Mays was a thousand times the outfielder Ruth was. BABE RUTH WAS A GOOD FIELDER MANY THINK HE WASN'T BUT YOU READ BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS HE WAS A GOOD ALL AROUND PLAYER. IT IS A MYTH BABE RUTH WAS A BAD FIELDER LIKE A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT BABE RUTH.

I DON'T FOLLOW HOCKEY SO I DON'T CARE.

Yeah.  You wouldn't follow a rough sport like hockey. I WATCH FOOTBALL A REAL MAN SPORT. THAT A ROUGH SPORT. I LIKE MMA ROUGHER YET, BOXING AMONG OTHER STUFF. Just using a better example than you did, that's all.

LOL THEY ALL DO.

There is a difference between a little wager here and there.  Many people do it.  It is when it becomes a problem when the person becomes a degenerate.  WELL HE OWN'S A TEAM MUST NOT BE THAT BAD AT BETTING REALLY. Like Rose and Jordan. JORDAN AND BONDS CHILLED A LOT THEY MUST OF CHILLED IN VEGAS MANY TIMES. At least Jordan was smart enough not to bet on the NBA when he played.... 

WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE

I know exactly what they are.  One doesn't need to take them to know that.  But as far as how they benefit a baseball player?  There is no agreement in the medical community and the stats from the era don't support that steroids did anything unusual.  Plus, more pitchers have been tested positive than hitters.  Go figure that one out.... YOU HAVE REALLY NO CLUE WHAT PED'S NONE. WATCH THE MOVIE THE HULK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT PED'S CAN DO IT NOT THAT BAD BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HULK OR INCRIDBLE HULK.

THEY HELP..

Not to hit home runs.WELL THEY DO LOL.  There is no data to support that.

THE STUFF THE PLAYERS TAKE ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATES

Exactly how would you know that?  And instead of giving me your usual vomit, just post a link instead. WELL THE PED'S THAT ATHELETS ARE GIVING ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATE THEY ARE YOU DON'T NEED ANY POST TO KNOW THIS LOL. PREMOBOLIN IS BANED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS IS AMONG OTHER PED'S NOT ALL PED ARE STERIODS SO.

WHEN THEY SAY A PLAYER HIT A MOON SHOT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HIT THE MOON IT MEAN'S THEY HIT THE BALL FAR.

Not the same.  We all know that vernacular.  But you claimed other teams contribute NOTHING. VERNACULAR STILL THE SAME. I CAN SAY OPRAH IS WORTH NOTHING COMPARED TO BILL GATES WHICH IS TRUE DOESN'T MEAN SHE ISN'T WORTH A LOT OF CASH TO US.

BUD ALREADY TALKING ABOUT TEAMS IN OTHER COUNTRYS HE SAID IN 14 YEARS

And yet it was never reported ANYWHERE.  SPORTS RADIO HE EVEN SAID IT IS HARD TO EXPAND MLB IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE FUTURE IS IN OTHER COUNTRY'S. Weird how only you know about this. FAN'S IN NEW YORK KNOW THIS HE DID THE INTERVIEW LIKE 4 YEARS AGO SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE GOTTON AND ALREADY FOREIGN RICH PEOPLE ARE BUYING AMERICAN TEAM'S IT IS A START.

BUD SAID IT IN MANY INTERVIEWS HE WANT TO OPEN THE MARKETS TO OTHER COUNTRYS.

I knew it.   Dude...  That doesn't mean he plans to put Major League teams in those countries!!!  Learn to read. WELL I DISAGREE HE SAID HE WANT TO TAP INTO OTHER MARKETS IN THE FUTURE. THE NBA AND NHL IS GOING TO GO TOO ANOTHER COUNTRY SOONER OR LATER THEY ARE EASY TO DO BECAUSE AN ARENA IS AN ARENA. BASEBALL STADIUMS AND FIELDS ARE HUGE  MAYBE THEY CAN PLAY IN SOCCER STADIUMS ONLY WAY THEY CAN DO THAT CHEAPLY THEY CAN'T BUILD COUNTLESS STADIUMS THAT COST A BILLION DOLLARS EACH.  BUT ALL THAT SAID I SEE IT HAPPENING ALL YOU NEED IS THE NBA AND NHL GOING WEST BOTH ARE HUGE ACCROSS THE OCEAN'S.

! LOL THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE THE ONE TEAM IN ONE THE SAME AREAS

It's not going to happen.  You don't see the future.  You are seeing what you WISH.  Quite a different thing.  I see reality.  MLB wants to open up foreign markets so they can see games and buy their stuff. BEST WAY TO OPEN THE MARKETS IS TO HAVE A PRODUCT ON THE SOIL. DAVID STEIRN SAID HE GOING TO HAVE A TEAM IN EUROPE SOONER OR LATER. MLB OFFICE IS IN NEW YORK SO WE CAN GET MORE INFO THEN MOST FASTER. Promote the sport so maybe they can have a new pool of talent for the AMERICAN Major Leagues to get players.  Never ever has Bud said he wants to put expansion teams in Asia or Europe. HE HAS SAID IT HE SAID IT THE FUTURE OF BASEBALL FACE IT THE FUTURE IS OVER SEA'S YOU DON'T WANNA SEA AMERICAN BASEBALL OVER SEA BUT THEY CAN MAKE ALOT OF MONEY OVER SEA'S  Bud is an idiot when it comes to baseball.  But he isn't that stupid when it comes to business.  WELL I GUESS HE IS AN IDIOT BECAUSE HE BEEN TESTING IT FOR YEARS. SOONER OR LATER YOU WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF TEAM'S OVER SEA'S IT WILL HAPPEN IN MY LIFE TIME.

WHY YOU THINK THEY HAVE GAMES EVERY SO OFTEN IN JAPAN DURING SPRING TRAINING. JAPAN LOVES AMERICAN BASEBALL.

And Japan has their own league.  There have been a couple of instances where teams played two games to start the season in Japan.  But it is merely a publicity stunt.  WHY WHEN IT EASYER TO PLAY THE GAME IN AMERICA WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO DO THAT. YOU CAN HAVE THE PIRATES AND ROYAL PLAY IN JAPN IT WILL SELL OUT. There are even rumors the Giants will open their season in Taiwan next year.  But guess what...  The NHL has opened in Japan and in Europe almost every year.  But only to help sell the League.  There is no intention of placing teams in those countries. WELL NBA HAS SPOKE ABOUT IT THEY CAN DO IT WITH NHL. AS SOON AS ONE BITES THEY WILL ALL BITE. NBA AND NHL CAN BOTH PLAY IN THE SAME PLACE PLAYER AREA ARE SIMILAR SIZED. EVEN ARENA FOOTBALL CAN GO OVER SEA'S. ONLY WAY TO DO BASEBALL IS PLAY IN SOCCER STADIUMS I THINK IT CAN HAPPEN. That would be idiotic.

THEY WOULD BE STILL AA TO AAA AT BEST THEY ARE NOT THE MAJORS DON'T MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE NOT.

Somehow I don't think the Japanese fans would take kindly to being a minor league for North American baseball. SO WHAT IT IS TRUE THEY ARE NOT AS GOOD AS MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL THIS IS FACT. THEY ARE TRAINED DIFFERENT THE HAVE PITCHERS PITCH ONCE A WEEK. THEY DO EVERY DIFFERENTLY.

WELL YOU SEE HOW IT IS WORKING FOR THE BLUE JAYS. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING IT HARD.

Don't know what you mean by that.  Canada is about as close as it gets to being a 51st state without being a US state. BLUE JAY'S ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME IN CANADA.

MAJOR LEAGUE JERSEYS AND OTHER THINGS SELL HIGH IN JAPAN.

That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years....WELL JAPAN HONOR AMERICAN BASEBALL THEY DO THEY BUY A LOT OF GEAR FROM THE UNITED STATES.

UNLIKE YOU I DON'T GO TO OTHER BULLSHIP SITES.

Nice little insult you placed so obviously in there.  I'm not going to stoop to your level.  I will only say that you have no idea what sites I like to frequent. LOL. GO TO MLB, YAHOO, ESPN, CNN AMONG OTHER SITE FOX REAL SITES.  But if it was such a wide spread thing, other sites would have picked it up.  Until you provide evidence, I will just classify it like the rest of your tripe. I WON'T USE OTHER SITES WHY BECAUSE I KNOW MOST ARE BULL I WOULDN'T EVEN WASTE MY TIME ON IT AT ALL. Not relevant. IF IT'S NOT A NAMED SITE I DON'T FOLLOW IT I DON'T GO TO BS SITES TO PROVE IM RIGHT I DON'T TAKE IT LIKE THAT NOT AT ALL.

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN JAPAN WHEN HE BECAME THE YANKEES.

Only because Ichiro was no longer playing in Japan! THIS WAS WHEN THEY WERE PLAYING. MATSUI TEAM IS LIKE THE YANKEES OF JAPAN IT VERY POPULAR IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP.  But world wide, Ichiro was still more popular. NOT JAPAN  People love the guy.  Still do.  His Japanese entourage proves it. MATSUI HAS AN ENTOURAGE ALSO LOL FOOL WOW YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. MATSUI WAS A BIGGER STAR IN JAPAN IT IS FACT MATSUI BEEN A YANKEE FOR YEARS I AND MOST NEW YORKERS KNOW THIS YOUR CRAZY TO THINK ICHIRO IS A BIGGER STAR THEN MATSUI. MATSUI IS LIKE JORDAN IN JAPAN STRAIGHT UP WAS A FAR BIGGER STAR AND AT THE TIME A BETTER STAR.

WRONG LA HAS A HUGE MARKET IN JAPAN. KOBE IS HUGH IN JAPAN

No he's not.  I was there!   HE IS HUGES IN JAPAN LOOK AT THE SHOE SELLS IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP DO SOME OF YOUR HOMEWORK HE SELLS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SHOES IN JAPAN. No one even knows what basketball is in that country. I DISAGREE LOL CHINA IT IS BIG. JAPAN IT IS BIG YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR A HATER OF BLACK SPORTS. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NFL BLACK SPORT OR NBA BLACK SPORT. NHL WHITE SPORT, MLB STILL A WHITE SPORT. SOCCER WHITE SPORT.



SHOULD SAY SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER

Big deal.  In over 50 years of the NBA, many teams have had some of the best players play for them.

YOU DON'T WATCH BASKETBALL

I don't have to.  I see and hear how it is marketed to the public.  It is never the Lakers vs the Cavs.  It is KOBE (and the lakers) vs LABRON (and the cavs)  At least, before he made a huge production about raising his middle finger to the team he used to play for.  You would NEVER see that in any other sport.  Only in basketball because it is all about the player.  Not the team.LOL

SMOKED THE GIANTS AND RANGERS. SMOOOOOOOOOOKED THEM

Hardly.  2 points.  That's not "smoking" by ANY definition. STILL DID BETTER THEN YOUR TEAM LOL FACE IT YOUR TEAM IS COMPLETE JUNK GET REAL WITH IT DUDE LOL.

TBS IS A NATIONAL NETWORK IN A LOT OF AREAS MANY AREAS IT IS NOT.

It is a national network, but it is known for Andy Griffith reruns more than anything. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ANDY GRIFFITH ANYMORE THEY ARE ON TV LAND VIACOM OWN THEM. TIME WARNER OWN'S TBS.  There just is NOTHING on TBS!  Who even watches it?  I had to look at my channel guide to even see where the hell it was on my system!  VERSUS gets more viewers than TBS! I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT TBS BEEN AROUND FOR EVERY THEY HAVE GOOD SHOWS ON IT. CONAN IS ON TBS FOR HEAVEN SAKES. ALL I SEE ON VERSUS IS ROCKY V THE WORST OF THE SERIES LOL IT IS A JOKE. NHL IS A JOKE

OVER SEAS THEY SCORED HUGH 12 MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN ALONE. WELL CNN SAID SO TWELVE MILLION PEOPLE IN JAPAN WATCH THE FINAL GAME OF THE WORLD SERIES YOUR JUST A HATER IN 2009 LOL. YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN SCORE 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN. IT WAS ON MSNBC, CNN AMONG OTHER CHANNELS I WATCH PLENTY OF NEW'S DO IT ONCE IN A WHILE LOL YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING. LOL INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE WORLD LIKE A ZOMBIE AS YOU DO.

No way.  11 million in the USA does NOT translate to 12 million in Japan.12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN IN 2009 FACT CNN ISN'T GOING TO LIE YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN DO WELL IN JAPAN.  A more realistic estimate would be 2 mil.  12 MILLION VIEWERS. And even that would be high considering that the games all started around 10am locally. THEY STILL WATCH IT NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. I would ask where you came up with that figure but I know you will never confirm it with anything. CNN NOT ON THE INTERNET CNN THEY HAVE SOME CHANNELS OVER IN JAPAN ALSO MANY MIGHT OF THEM MIGHT HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO TAPE CNN FOR A ZOMBIE NOPE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LOL

STILL BET WORLD SERIES THEN THE LAST ONE THAT NO ONE WATCHED.

Doesn't change the fact that the Yankees have been involved in the lowest rated world series ever.  Multiple times. YOUR ONE ONE OF THE WORST RATED ITSELF FAIR IS FAIR. Also, the highest rated of all time didn't involve the Yankees. THE HIGHEST VIEWERSHIP IS THE YANKEES LOOK IT UP. LOL BUT ZOMBIES CAN READ SO IMAGINE THAT JOHN LENNON. Imagine that.


THEY WERE NOT THAT BAD YANKEES AND PHILLIES DREW LARGE

No..  Those ratings SUCKED.   They were the 5th lowest EVER.  That sucks in anyone's book.  Except yours, of course.

.95 WINS AND MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

2nd place.  You know what people call teams who don't win?   LOSERS! YOUR A LOSER YOUR A FAN OF A LOSER TEAM. YOUR A FAN OF SOCCER AN LOSER SPORT. YOUR A SWIMMER SO YOUR A PANSY ATHLETE. IF THE YANKEES ARE LOSERS SO WHY DO YOU WANT THE MONEY THEY MAKE LOL GO FIGURE WHY YOU WORRIED ABOUT A 206 MILLION DOLLAR LOSER TEAM THAT CAN'T WIN JACK. YOUR GIANTS ARE LOSERS FACE IT.

YOU WANT THE YANKEES TO SHARE SOME OF THE YES NETWORK WITH OTHER TEAM'S IN BASEBALL STUPID THEY DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY.

All teams are part of the same company.  If franchises fail, it is bad for the entire company.  I don't just want the Yankees to share.  I want ALL teams to share.  ALL teams will contribute.   It is not about going after only the Yankees.  It is about what is best for ALL of Major League baseball.  You don't understand that.  Where would the Yankees be if they only had 4 teams to play? THEY CAN MAKE THERE OWN LEAGUE LOL. THEY HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY. YANKEES ARE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE MLB BASEBALL. MLB IS WORTH OVER 5 BILLION DOLLARS. YANKEES ARE WORTH THREE OR FOUR BILLION DOLLARS THEMSELVES. IT NOT ALL BASEBALL PROPERTY BECAUSE THE YANKEES ARE NOT JUST BASEBALL ANYMORE. YOU WANT TO SHARE EVERY WHAT ARE THE PIRATES AND GIANTS AN OTHER TEAM'S LIKE THAT GOING TO PUT IN THE TILL NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE'S THAT IS FOR SURE PLUS YOU WANT TO CAP THE YANKEES. YOU WANT THE YANKEES MONEY AND CAP THEM THAT IS STUPID.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT FAIR FOR THE MOST POPULAR TEAM IN THE SPORT STRAIGHT UP.

Not only is it fair to the popular teams, it is fair to ALL teams regardless of popularity.  The league needs ALL teams to do well.  Not just a few.  You are not a baseball fan.  You are a selfish Yankee fan.  So that is something you don't seem to get. LOL I WANT MY TEAM TO DO WELL I CARE ABOUT THAT AND ALL I NEED TO CARE ABOUT. BASEBALL DOING OK WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF THE TEAM'S THAT DON'T PRODUCE AND LET THOSE FREE AGENTS GO TOO OTHER TEAM. MAKE OTHER TEAMS THAT DO WELL BETTER.

NOOOOOOO NOT AT ALL YOU HAVE TO FIGURE HOW GOOD WOULD YOUR DIVISON BE IF YOU HAD TO FACE THE RED SOX AND YANKEES UP TOO 19 GAMES A YEAR.

That, AND you have to consider how they would be if they got to face the crappy Jays, Rays and O's 18 times a year too.  You keep forgetting about the crap teams in your division. BULL THEY WOULD DO WELL IN LET SAY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE. JAY WOULD CRUSH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE WEST THEY ARE A GOOD TEAM BUT THEY HAVE TO FACE THREE OTHER GOOD TEAMS AND THE O'S ARE NOT PUSH OVER THEY CAN GIVE YOU PROBLEMS

NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION THE YANKEES PLAYED IN MANY TEAMS WOULD BE THE YANKEES WHIPPING BOYS STRAIGHT UP.

GIANTS WOULD GET CRUSHED 18-19 GAMES A SEASON CRUSHED.

Not with the pitching they have.1  Many eastern pundit thought the Rangers would beat the Giants since they beat the Rays, the best of the East.  But their bias didn't allow them to see how good the Giants pitching was.  Just like you.    LOL I WANT THE GIANTS IN THE WORLD SERIES NEXT YEAR VS. THE YANKEES LOL LET IT HAPPEN PLEASE BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THE GIANT'S CAN EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN LOL.

EVERY PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PERSON KNOWS THE HARDEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL IS THE AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST 2008-2009-2010

Prove it.  That comment, like much of what you say, is horse dung. LOOK IT UP DO WATCH ESPN, MLB NETWORK EVEN THE NEW MET MANAGERS SAID THE AL HAVE BETTER LINEUP YESTERDAY. HE SAID THE NL 6 HOLE HITTER. WOULD BE THE AL NINE HITTER INSULTING TO THE NL THAT HOW STRONGER THE AL IS. NL CAN CLEAR 1-6 STRONG BUT AL 1-9 STRONG. THIS IS AN NATIONAL LEAGUE MANAGER

FACT IF THE BLUE JAY WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION LAST YEAR THEY MIGHT OF MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

That is not a fact.  That is your speculation.  You don't even know the difference.  But my assessment is they likely wouldn't have.  They weren't very good at all. 2010 THE JAYS WAS A SOLID, IF THE JAY'S WERE IN ANY OTHER DIVISION THEY WOULD OF MADE THE PLAYOFF'S THIS WAS SAID BY EVEN ESPN IT SELF. YOUR A HATER THIS IS IT IM DONE WITH YOUR FOR GOOD THIS TIME



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You are just a hater of all things not Yankee.  Just admit to it.  You will feel as if a tremendous weight has been lifted from your soul...
SOOOOOOOO ITS THE OWNERS THAT HIT THE BALL IT IS THE GM THAT PITCHES THE BALL. IT IS THE MANAGER THE FIELDS THE BALL IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS.

What?  Who ever made THAT claim?  I sure didn't.  All I said was no individual player ever won a World Series.  It was always a team thing.

WELL IT IS THE TRUTH

You are doing it again.  Deflecting away from the issue.  You are obviously incapable of responding to my points since you employ this tactic.  Ba a man.  Own up to it.

THE YANKEES WILL HAVE GREAT PITCHING 2011 THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE WITH CLIFF LEE

The same Cliff Lee who lost twice to the "lowly" Giants in the World Series?    Knock yourself out.  He isn't even close to being a top major league pitcher these days.

THE ROTATION WITH SABATHIA, LEE, HUGHES, PETTITTE IF HE RESIGNS AND AJ

That rotation is not very good.  Sabathia is the only competent player in it.  And he wouldn't win games if the Yankys didn't score almost 8 runs a game for him.  Your #1 guy would be #3 on the Giants staff.  Pettitte and AJ wouldn't make it and Lee or Hughes would be #5 at best.

YOU ARE CRAZY DUDE WHAT YOU DO IN THE POST SEASON IS FAR FAR FAR MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANYTHING YOU DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

But it is not as impressive.  Like I said...  Anyone can get hot for a week.  Only the best get hot for 6 months.

BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE.

Not in the AL where you don't need a bench.  But with no DH, you really do need ALL players to do it.  The Giants last year needed played 24 of their 25 players.

YAKEES SCORE MOOOOOOOOOOOOORE RUN'S THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL

And in spite of that, they still only managed 2nd place.  Guess they needed a little better pitching.

UT HE CAN STEAL ANY TIME HE WANT'S

And yet he doesn't.  If you have the skill, you use it.  Obviously he doesn't have that skill.  Don't make excuses for it.

JEALOUS YOUR TEAM DOESN'T HAVE MONEY.

Not at all.  My team probably spends more than they should.  They are in the upper half of the Majors in payroll.  Sometimes even the upper 1/3.  that's plenty. 

THE OWNERS DON'T NEED MORE MONEY THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH

I don't care how rich the owners are.  I only care about what is best for baseball.  If owners all losing money would make for a better product on the field, I would be all for that.  But it doesn't.  I want ALL teams to be able to compete for the title.  Not just a few.  Like you seem to want.  You are selfish.

THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL.

If they were really doing something right, let them make the playoffs every year spending 2/3 of what they do now.  Only then could you make the claim they are doing something right.  Until then, they are in only because of money. 

THAT A-ROD JOB TO HIT HOME RUN NOT DEREK JETER'S

Then why are you talking about what a great home run hitter he is?

WHO CARES I DON'T

You brought it up.  Seems to you care, Mr. Contradiction.

DEREK JETER YOUR WORST ISN'T PART OF THE WORLD SERIES WIN'S HE HAS. DEREK JETER DOESN'T HAVE 5 WORLD SERIE

Huh?  What?  You often deflect away from the issue at had, but can you please make SENSE when responding?

STERIOD MAKE YOU FOCUS MORE GIVE YOU MORE POWER

They don't increase mental discipline.  And they don't give you more home run power.  These are medical facts.

I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. VIN DOG SCHOOLED YOU ON THIS PART.

Surprised you don't want to go down that road only to get slammed by me again.  You go down other roads and get slammed by me and others all the time.  Vin never schooled me on anything.  He had nothing but his voice and I provided actual links to medical studies and the results of statisticians to prove him wrong.

STATISTIC DO SHOW IT IF YOU THINK NO YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

I could link you to the study (AGAIN) but I'm sure you will just ignore it.

NOT ALWAY'S MANY GAMES JORDAN GAVE THE SHOT TO ANOTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER LIKE STEVE KERR.

Who?

JORDAN HAS 6 BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS. BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES RINGS

And the circle continues.  Basketball is NOT baseball.  One guy can change everything in basketball.  Not so in baseball at all.  Remember that pesky line up that you can't change?  Therefore, your comment remains worthless.

BONDS WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT TO PLAY FOR THE YANKEES HE CHOSE ANOTHER TEAM WHICH WAS STUPID IF HE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES HE WOULD HAVE 4 OR SO WORLD SERIES RINGS.

Never heard of that...  But if true, it shows a rare moment of class on his part.

IT TAKES FAR MORE SKILL TO BE A SHORT STOP

Not more skills.  Just different skills.

YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN FASTER AT SHORT STOP. 

Give me a break.  That was a ridiculous thing to say even for you.

SHORT STOP TO OUTFIELD

No.  Jeter to Ichiro.

WHO HAS 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS NOT RIPKEN OR SUZUKI.

Yes, but both Ichiro and Ripken are better than Jeter.  Buddy Biancalana has more rings than Ichiro.  That doesn't mean he was the better player.

MATZUI WAS AN IRON HORSE

A DH is less than half a player.  That hardly makes him an "iron horse".

CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER FOR WHAT I SEE.

You see poorly.  The best arm HAS to be in right.  Bonds played left because he had a weak arm.  But he made up for it by playing the angles better than anyone and being quick.

AND ALL 4 PLAYERS HAVE GOLD GLOVES TO SHOW IT.

Gold Gloves are worthless and you know it.  They even gave a Gold Glove to a DH once.  That proves it.

ON LITTLE PART MAYBE BUT MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER WHEN THEY WERE BOTH PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

that isn't true either.

WATCH CNN THEY SAID 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN

Link, please?

WELL MANY AMERICAN PLAYERS ARE IN JAPAN SO.

If they could get major league contracts, they would be in the USA.  Not Japan.

THAT IS A BULL SHIT GAME. PLAY THE WBC WHEN IT ALL STAR TIME NOT WHEN MOST PLAYERS ARE DOING THE SPRING TRAINING THING. THAT BULLSHIP AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS BULLSHIP.

It would be logistically impossible to play the WBC mid season.  Spring training is the best time to do it.  The World Cup of Hockey is played during training camp.  No problems with that.  And while the tournament format may not be the best, it is still telling how well the Japanese team has fared in both.  Odds are very long it was a fluke.

BABE RUTH WAS A GOOD FIELDER MANY THINK HE WASN'T BUT YOU READ BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS HE WAS A GOOD ALL AROUND PLAYER.

By all accounts, Ruth was a less than spectacular outfielder.  This is well known.  He didn't cover much ground.  He was actually not all that interested in playing the field.  If he played after 1973, he would have been a DH.

I WATCH FOOTBALL A REAL MAN SPORT.

the lazy man's sport.  The american version, that is.

YOU HAVE REALLY NO CLUE WHAT PED'S NONE. WATCH THE MOVIE THE HULK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT PED'S CAN DO IT NOT THAT BAD BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HULK OR INCRIDBLE HULK.

That's too funny!!!!   You just continue to cement your reputation around here!   Keep it up!!   LOLOLOL!!!!!!

WELL THE PED'S THAT ATHELETS ARE GIVING ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATE THEY ARE YOU DON'T NEED ANY POST TO KNOW THIS LOL....

Yep.  I asked for links and as expected, you failed to provide.  How predictable.

I CAN SAY OPRAH IS WORTH NOTHING COMPARED TO BILL GATES

Excellent example.  You would still be wrong.

SPORTS RADIO HE EVEN SAID IT IS HARD TO EXPAND MLB IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE FUTURE IS IN OTHER COUNTRY'S

Nope.  He never said that.  Care to find a link to an article that quoted him?  If true, it should be easy to find.

THE NBA AND NHL IS GOING TO GO TOO ANOTHER COUNTRY SOONER OR LATER

No, they are not.  They have no plans to.

FACE IT THE FUTURE IS OVER SEA'S YOU DON'T WANNA SEA AMERICAN BASEBALL OVER SEA BUT THEY CAN MAKE ALOT OF MONEY OVER SEA'S

Actually, I think it would be great to have baseball overseas.  I want it to happen.  But I am a realist.  They need to fix their issues here at home before they start expanding again.  Further, there are great markets for expansion here at home for expansion if the time ever comes.  Overseas expansion is a VERY VERY long way away.  Not likely in yours or my lifetime.

BLUE JAY'S ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME IN CANADA.

The Jays are doing fine.

....WELL JAPAN HONOR AMERICAN BASEBALL THEY DO THEY BUY A LOT OF GEAR FROM THE UNITED STATES.

I repeat...  That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years.

LOL. GO TO MLB, YAHOO, ESPN, CNN AMONG OTHER SITE FOX REAL SITES.

I go to MLB.  Not Yahoo.  Occasionally ESPN.  Not CNN or FOX.  But all I got to are "real" sites.

HE IS HUGES IN JAPAN LOOK AT THE SHOE SELLS IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP DO SOME OF YOUR HOMEWORK HE SELLS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SHOES IN JAPAN.

I see..  Because people buy shoes it must be because they love American basketball players.  You logic is amazing.

CHINA IT IS BIG. JAPAN IT IS BIG

Basketball was a small sport in China until that freak Ming made it to the states.  But they like Ming.  Not so much basketball.  Big difference.  In Japan, many still don't even know what basketball is.

YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR A HATER OF BLACK SPORTS. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NFL BLACK SPORT OR NBA BLACK SPORT. NHL WHITE SPORT, MLB STILL A WHITE SPORT. SOCCER WHITE SPORT.

I had no idea you were so racist.  I would never classify a sport by a race.  Shame on you.

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN IN 2009 FACT CNN ISN'T GOING TO LIE YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN DO WELL IN JAPAN.

Sure would be nice if you could actually support that with something besides your unreliable self.

CNN NOT ON THE INTERNET CNN THEY HAVE SOME CHANNELS OVER IN JAPAN ALSO MANY MIGHT OF THEM MIGHT HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO TAPE CNN FOR A ZOMBIE NOPE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LOL

Every story CNN does can be found on their website.  It shouldn't be that hard.  It wasn't that long ago.  Any more excuses?

THE HIGHEST VIEWERSHIP IS THE YANKEES LOOK IT UP.

I did.  The highest ratings AND VIEWERS, was a World Series that did NOT include the Yankees.  It was between the Phillies and Royals.

YOUR A LOSER YOUR A FAN OF A LOSER TEAM.

And yet this loser team just won the World Series with a payroll of less than HALF of your team.  Go figure.

YOUR A FAN OF SOCCER AN LOSER SPORT.

That "loser" sport is the most popular sport on this planet.

YOUR A SWIMMER SO YOUR A PANSY ATHLETE.

And yet is has been reported that swimmers are often in the best shape of ALL athletes....

IF THE YANKEES ARE LOSERS SO WHY DO YOU WANT THE MONEY

I don't want their money.  I want ALL teams to share.  Not just the Yankees.  They are all part of the same business, you know.

THEY CAN MAKE THERE OWN LEAGUE LOL

So, they would be like the Globetrotters playing the Generals every day....   LOL

YANKEES ARE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE MLB BASEBALL.

Impossible.  The Yankees are part of MLB.  The entire worth of MLB would HAVE to be more than the Yankees alone.  A TON more.

BASEBALL PROPERTY BECAUSE THE YANKEES ARE NOT JUST BASEBALL ANYMORE

They aren't?  Funny...  They still play in the American League and follow all the MLB rules....   Are the Yankees that are currently a part of MLB impostors?

YOU WANT TO SHARE EVERY WHAT ARE THE PIRATES AND GIANTS AN OTHER TEAM'S LIKE THAT GOING TO PUT IN THE TILL NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE'S

Perhaps not.  But it is better for the whole.  It will help all.  Including the Yankees.  A rising tide lifts ALL boats.

PLUS YOU WANT TO CAP THE YANKEES.

The cap would affect everyone.  Not JUST the Yankees.  It is about what is best for MLB, dude.  Something you do not understand.  You seem to want the Yankees to succeed and have MLB fail.  Which shows how blind you are because if MLB goes down, so will the Yankees.

I WANT MY TEAM TO DO WELL I CARE ABOUT THAT AND ALL I NEED TO CARE ABOUT.

You are proving my point.  You would keep your finger in the hole in the dam while the rest of it collapses around you.

WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF THE TEAM'S THAT DON'T PRODUCE

Which would result in MLB becoming even LESS popular... Leading to LESS revenue.  Leading to even LESS productive teams.  It is a vicious cycle you are endorsing that could only result in the destruction of MLB.  Including the Yankees.

BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THE GIANT'S CAN EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN LOL.

Maybe.  That would be because the NL West is more difficult to win.

LOOK IT UP DO WATCH ESPN, MLB NETWORK EVEN THE NEW MET MANAGERS SAID THE AL HAVE BETTER LINEUP YESTERDAY.

A couple of eastern biased idiots have made that claim on the air.  But it is not the prevailing attitude among baseball experts.

What was the point of the links you provided?  They didn't support your point, and if you actually read them, they support MINE.

Why didn't you provide links for the stuff I actually asked you to provide links for?  Was it because they don't exist because you know what you claimed was crap?
Babe Ruth  
#123 | 1430 days ago

ML31 wrote:
SOOOOOOOO ITS THE OWNERS THAT HIT THE BALL IT IS THE GM THAT PITCHES THE BALL. IT IS THE MANAGER THE FIELDS THE BALL IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS.

What?  Who ever made THAT claim?  I sure didn't.  All I said was no individual player ever won a World Series.  It was always a team thing.

WELL IT IS THE TRUTH

You are doing it again.  Deflecting away from the issue.  You are obviously incapable of responding to my points since you employ this tactic.  Ba a man.  Own up to it.

THE YANKEES WILL HAVE GREAT PITCHING 2011 THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE WITH CLIFF LEE

The same Cliff Lee who lost twice to the "lowly" Giants in the World Series?    Knock yourself out.  He isn't even close to being a top major league pitcher these days.

THE ROTATION WITH SABATHIA, LEE, HUGHES, PETTITTE IF HE RESIGNS AND AJ

That rotation is not very good.  Sabathia is the only competent player in it.  And he wouldn't win games if the Yankys didn't score almost 8 runs a game for him.  Your #1 guy would be #3 on the Giants staff.  Pettitte and AJ wouldn't make it and Lee or Hughes would be #5 at best.

YOU ARE CRAZY DUDE WHAT YOU DO IN THE POST SEASON IS FAR FAR FAR MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANYTHING YOU DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

But it is not as impressive.  Like I said...  Anyone can get hot for a week.  Only the best get hot for 6 months.

BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE.

Not in the AL where you don't need a bench.  But with no DH, you really do need ALL players to do it.  The Giants last year needed played 24 of their 25 players.

YAKEES SCORE MOOOOOOOOOOOOORE RUN'S THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL

And in spite of that, they still only managed 2nd place.  Guess they needed a little better pitching.

UT HE CAN STEAL ANY TIME HE WANT'S

And yet he doesn't.  If you have the skill, you use it.  Obviously he doesn't have that skill.  Don't make excuses for it.

JEALOUS YOUR TEAM DOESN'T HAVE MONEY.

Not at all.  My team probably spends more than they should.  They are in the upper half of the Majors in payroll.  Sometimes even the upper 1/3.  that's plenty. 

THE OWNERS DON'T NEED MORE MONEY THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH

I don't care how rich the owners are.  I only care about what is best for baseball.  If owners all losing money would make for a better product on the field, I would be all for that.  But it doesn't.  I want ALL teams to be able to compete for the title.  Not just a few.  Like you seem to want.  You are selfish.

THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL.

If they were really doing something right, let them make the playoffs every year spending 2/3 of what they do now.  Only then could you make the claim they are doing something right.  Until then, they are in only because of money. 

THAT A-ROD JOB TO HIT HOME RUN NOT DEREK JETER'S

Then why are you talking about what a great home run hitter he is?

WHO CARES I DON'T

You brought it up.  Seems to you care, Mr. Contradiction.

DEREK JETER YOUR WORST ISN'T PART OF THE WORLD SERIES WIN'S HE HAS. DEREK JETER DOESN'T HAVE 5 WORLD SERIE

Huh?  What?  You often deflect away from the issue at had, but can you please make SENSE when responding?

STERIOD MAKE YOU FOCUS MORE GIVE YOU MORE POWER

They don't increase mental discipline.  And they don't give you more home run power.  These are medical facts.

I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. VIN DOG SCHOOLED YOU ON THIS PART.

Surprised you don't want to go down that road only to get slammed by me again.  You go down other roads and get slammed by me and others all the time.  Vin never schooled me on anything.  He had nothing but his voice and I provided actual links to medical studies and the results of statisticians to prove him wrong.

STATISTIC DO SHOW IT IF YOU THINK NO YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

I could link you to the study (AGAIN) but I'm sure you will just ignore it.

NOT ALWAY'S MANY GAMES JORDAN GAVE THE SHOT TO ANOTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER LIKE STEVE KERR.

Who?

JORDAN HAS 6 BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS. BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES RINGS

And the circle continues.  Basketball is NOT baseball.  One guy can change everything in basketball.  Not so in baseball at all.  Remember that pesky line up that you can't change?  Therefore, your comment remains worthless.

BONDS WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT TO PLAY FOR THE YANKEES HE CHOSE ANOTHER TEAM WHICH WAS STUPID IF HE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES HE WOULD HAVE 4 OR SO WORLD SERIES RINGS.

Never heard of that...  But if true, it shows a rare moment of class on his part.

IT TAKES FAR MORE SKILL TO BE A SHORT STOP

Not more skills.  Just different skills.

YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN FASTER AT SHORT STOP. 

Give me a break.  That was a ridiculous thing to say even for you.

SHORT STOP TO OUTFIELD

No.  Jeter to Ichiro.

WHO HAS 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS NOT RIPKEN OR SUZUKI.

Yes, but both Ichiro and Ripken are better than Jeter.  Buddy Biancalana has more rings than Ichiro.  That doesn't mean he was the better player.

MATZUI WAS AN IRON HORSE

A DH is less than half a player.  That hardly makes him an "iron horse".

CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER FOR WHAT I SEE.

You see poorly.  The best arm HAS to be in right.  Bonds played left because he had a weak arm.  But he made up for it by playing the angles better than anyone and being quick.

AND ALL 4 PLAYERS HAVE GOLD GLOVES TO SHOW IT.

Gold Gloves are worthless and you know it.  They even gave a Gold Glove to a DH once.  That proves it.

ON LITTLE PART MAYBE BUT MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER WHEN THEY WERE BOTH PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

that isn't true either.

WATCH CNN THEY SAID 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN

Link, please?

WELL MANY AMERICAN PLAYERS ARE IN JAPAN SO.

If they could get major league contracts, they would be in the USA.  Not Japan.

THAT IS A BULL SHIT GAME. PLAY THE WBC WHEN IT ALL STAR TIME NOT WHEN MOST PLAYERS ARE DOING THE SPRING TRAINING THING. THAT BULLSHIP AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS BULLSHIP.

It would be logistically impossible to play the WBC mid season.  Spring training is the best time to do it.  The World Cup of Hockey is played during training camp.  No problems with that.  And while the tournament format may not be the best, it is still telling how well the Japanese team has fared in both.  Odds are very long it was a fluke.

BABE RUTH WAS A GOOD FIELDER MANY THINK HE WASN'T BUT YOU READ BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS HE WAS A GOOD ALL AROUND PLAYER.

By all accounts, Ruth was a less than spectacular outfielder.  This is well known.  He didn't cover much ground.  He was actually not all that interested in playing the field.  If he played after 1973, he would have been a DH.

I WATCH FOOTBALL A REAL MAN SPORT.

the lazy man's sport.  The american version, that is.

YOU HAVE REALLY NO CLUE WHAT PED'S NONE. WATCH THE MOVIE THE HULK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT PED'S CAN DO IT NOT THAT BAD BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HULK OR INCRIDBLE HULK.

That's too funny!!!!   You just continue to cement your reputation around here!   Keep it up!!   LOLOLOL!!!!!!

WELL THE PED'S THAT ATHELETS ARE GIVING ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATE THEY ARE YOU DON'T NEED ANY POST TO KNOW THIS LOL....

Yep.  I asked for links and as expected, you failed to provide.  How predictable.

I CAN SAY OPRAH IS WORTH NOTHING COMPARED TO BILL GATES

Excellent example.  You would still be wrong.

SPORTS RADIO HE EVEN SAID IT IS HARD TO EXPAND MLB IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE FUTURE IS IN OTHER COUNTRY'S

Nope.  He never said that.  Care to find a link to an article that quoted him?  If true, it should be easy to find.

THE NBA AND NHL IS GOING TO GO TOO ANOTHER COUNTRY SOONER OR LATER

No, they are not.  They have no plans to.

FACE IT THE FUTURE IS OVER SEA'S YOU DON'T WANNA SEA AMERICAN BASEBALL OVER SEA BUT THEY CAN MAKE ALOT OF MONEY OVER SEA'S

Actually, I think it would be great to have baseball overseas.  I want it to happen.  But I am a realist.  They need to fix their issues here at home before they start expanding again.  Further, there are great markets for expansion here at home for expansion if the time ever comes.  Overseas expansion is a VERY VERY long way away.  Not likely in yours or my lifetime.

BLUE JAY'S ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME IN CANADA.

The Jays are doing fine.

....WELL JAPAN HONOR AMERICAN BASEBALL THEY DO THEY BUY A LOT OF GEAR FROM THE UNITED STATES.

I repeat...  That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years.

LOL. GO TO MLB, YAHOO, ESPN, CNN AMONG OTHER SITE FOX REAL SITES.

I go to MLB.  Not Yahoo.  Occasionally ESPN.  Not CNN or FOX.  But all I got to are "real" sites.

HE IS HUGES IN JAPAN LOOK AT THE SHOE SELLS IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP DO SOME OF YOUR HOMEWORK HE SELLS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SHOES IN JAPAN.

I see..  Because people buy shoes it must be because they love American basketball players.  You logic is amazing.

CHINA IT IS BIG. JAPAN IT IS BIG

Basketball was a small sport in China until that freak Ming made it to the states.  But they like Ming.  Not so much basketball.  Big difference.  In Japan, many still don't even know what basketball is.

YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR A HATER OF BLACK SPORTS. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NFL BLACK SPORT OR NBA BLACK SPORT. NHL WHITE SPORT, MLB STILL A WHITE SPORT. SOCCER WHITE SPORT.

I had no idea you were so racist.  I would never classify a sport by a race.  Shame on you.

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN IN 2009 FACT CNN ISN'T GOING TO LIE YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN DO WELL IN JAPAN.

Sure would be nice if you could actually support that with something besides your unreliable self.

CNN NOT ON THE INTERNET CNN THEY HAVE SOME CHANNELS OVER IN JAPAN ALSO MANY MIGHT OF THEM MIGHT HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO TAPE CNN FOR A ZOMBIE NOPE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LOL

Every story CNN does can be found on their website.  It shouldn't be that hard.  It wasn't that long ago.  Any more excuses?

THE HIGHEST VIEWERSHIP IS THE YANKEES LOOK IT UP.

I did.  The highest ratings AND VIEWERS, was a World Series that did NOT include the Yankees.  It was between the Phillies and Royals.

YOUR A LOSER YOUR A FAN OF A LOSER TEAM.

And yet this loser team just won the World Series with a payroll of less than HALF of your team.  Go figure.

YOUR A FAN OF SOCCER AN LOSER SPORT.

That "loser" sport is the most popular sport on this planet.

YOUR A SWIMMER SO YOUR A PANSY ATHLETE.

And yet is has been reported that swimmers are often in the best shape of ALL athletes....

IF THE YANKEES ARE LOSERS SO WHY DO YOU WANT THE MONEY

I don't want their money.  I want ALL teams to share.  Not just the Yankees.  They are all part of the same business, you know.

THEY CAN MAKE THERE OWN LEAGUE LOL

So, they would be like the Globetrotters playing the Generals every day....   LOL

YANKEES ARE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE MLB BASEBALL.

Impossible.  The Yankees are part of MLB.  The entire worth of MLB would HAVE to be more than the Yankees alone.  A TON more.

BASEBALL PROPERTY BECAUSE THE YANKEES ARE NOT JUST BASEBALL ANYMORE

They aren't?  Funny...  They still play in the American League and follow all the MLB rules....   Are the Yankees that are currently a part of MLB impostors?

YOU WANT TO SHARE EVERY WHAT ARE THE PIRATES AND GIANTS AN OTHER TEAM'S LIKE THAT GOING TO PUT IN THE TILL NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE'S

Perhaps not.  But it is better for the whole.  It will help all.  Including the Yankees.  A rising tide lifts ALL boats.

PLUS YOU WANT TO CAP THE YANKEES.

The cap would affect everyone.  Not JUST the Yankees.  It is about what is best for MLB, dude.  Something you do not understand.  You seem to want the Yankees to succeed and have MLB fail.  Which shows how blind you are because if MLB goes down, so will the Yankees.

I WANT MY TEAM TO DO WELL I CARE ABOUT THAT AND ALL I NEED TO CARE ABOUT.

You are proving my point.  You would keep your finger in the hole in the dam while the rest of it collapses around you.

WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF THE TEAM'S THAT DON'T PRODUCE

Which would result in MLB becoming even LESS popular... Leading to LESS revenue.  Leading to even LESS productive teams.  It is a vicious cycle you are endorsing that could only result in the destruction of MLB.  Including the Yankees.

BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THE GIANT'S CAN EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN LOL.

Maybe.  That would be because the NL West is more difficult to win.

LOOK IT UP DO WATCH ESPN, MLB NETWORK EVEN THE NEW MET MANAGERS SAID THE AL HAVE BETTER LINEUP YESTERDAY.

A couple of eastern biased idiots have made that claim on the air.  But it is not the prevailing attitude among baseball experts.

What was the point of the links you provided?  They didn't support your point, and if you actually read them, they support MINE.

Why didn't you provide links for the stuff I actually asked you to provide links for?  Was it because they don't exist because you know what you claimed was crap?
ADIOS NOW IT IS TIME TO GET SERIOUS.
Babe Ruth  
#124 | 1430 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
ADIOS NOW IT IS TIME TO GET SERIOUS.
But if you get serious, will be as entertaining?
Babe Ruth  
#125 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
I agree with you,  he is the most enteraining one on this site with those crazy rants. Yes it was 1969 the first year, was laughing to much when I typed. Bulls come now Jordan came into the league in '84 but did not win till '91  If he did not have Grant, Paxson, Pippen, Cartwright with him they would not have won the 1st three. Did not say he did not make a difference but the Bulls did not win year after year till Collins coached. Yes the Bulls continued it. Jordan playing playing for another team gives them a shot but does not mean they would win. It is true that people do not remember who played with Jordan if they really did not follow basketball. Just like baseball if you watch the games you get to know the players and who they played for and if you are die hard fan could say how they ended on a certian team. Just like the Lakers of the '80s if you only know Magic I would say you were not really a fan of basketball, or the Lakers. The Celtics same thing,
NO I am sorry when I brought up basketball it was to something I read in one of his post saying he only knew Magic, Jordan and Kobe. Hard to be a true Lakers fan and not know more of their players. Especially ones that played with Magic. Baseball is my main sport, but I do enjoy basketball.
Babe Ruth  
#126 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
hahaha that is the best you got to say the  owners of the METS suck and we change everything but 1 really thats what you went withhahahahahahahahaha.I been around long enough to see the Yankees have their ups and downs and they would not win every year.  They may have over 30 championships, you have 27 now what 3 more. Hell you been in the playoffs enough times you should have them. I would say many other teams would have more too but they don't. When you spend to get the best talent you are going to win more and be in the chase more often. Does not mean you will win as it has been proven in the past. The Yankees are not killing teams now or running away with anything. Watch as the Yankees start to slide down the hill, George is not there to buy the best player anymore.  Did you really say they put the weaker player in the outfield, hahahaha stupid you picked Ruth as the best player in this survey, where did he played? Manlte, Williams???? Yeah you are lost but you make it funny to read. Jordan what do you know about him really????   Takes a real team to be good are you serious??????  South Beach lol at the end of the year see where they are, again as you said regular season means nothing as long as they make the playoffs, the Heat will be there. extra playoffs does not help my league, 1) I do not own the league 2) I cannot stand DS. Besides the DH and interleague play I abhor it the most. Let the Yankees come to NL and they would be beaten like any other team no way would they go around crushing teams. Your points here have been sad in logic, but very entertaining to say the least.
hahahahaha youi are an Idiot yes the Yankees do go out and over pay for players who are trash, like you said you were a yankees fan back in the 80's you were what 5???? The yankees sucked, you are on the ban wagon could not even tell me yankees back from the 80 or early 90s. I grew up in NY not so farm town in upstate and even as a kid we new the players on the team. not only did I know the Mets but the other teams out there for wwe talked about baseball, played it. Still being a kid. The Philles being the only team really shows you how much you even no about the sport. The Heat does not need a big man to win the Lakers prove that. Kobe the best??????? I am not even going to get into it with you about that you think Kobe, not even Jordan thinks that.
Babe Ruth  
#127 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
NO I am sorry when I brought up basketball it was to something I read in one of his post saying he only knew Magic, Jordan and Kobe. Hard to be a true Lakers fan and not know more of their players. Especially ones that played with Magic. Baseball is my main sport, but I do enjoy basketball.
I'm really a Chicago Bulls fan but I respect the Lakers and I'm also a Phil Jackson fan. I know the other players but never really look them up. I'm really a Bulls fan like I said. I started watching them in 89. Jordan is truly the best player I ever seen. Today's game no one is even close and he destroyed your Knick big time I remember the 53 point come back game facing the Knick he just ripped the Knicks apart. ONE OF THE BEST GAMES EVER. I know a little about the past Jerry West emblem of the NBA.
Babe Ruth  
#128 | 1430 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
hahahahaha youi are an Idiot yes the Yankees do go out and over pay for players who are trash, like you said you were a yankees fan back in the 80's you were what 5???? The yankees sucked, you are on the ban wagon could not even tell me yankees back from the 80 or early 90s. I grew up in NY not so farm town in upstate and even as a kid we new the players on the team. not only did I know the Mets but the other teams out there for wwe talked about baseball, played it. Still being a kid. The Philles being the only team really shows you how much you even no about the sport. The Heat does not need a big man to win the Lakers prove that. Kobe the best??????? I am not even going to get into it with you about that you think Kobe, not even Jordan thinks that.
Who is trash that they over pay for I KNOW WHO PAYS FOR GARBAGE OLLY PEREZ HE A JOKE OF A PITCHER. I SAID LETS TRADE AJ STRAIGHT UP NO SORRY NO I THINK OF IT AJ IS A BETTER PITCHER. Johan Santana is going to be a bust every season he gets hurt and will be out for more then two months. David Wright is a joke we have a far better third basemen David Wright is weak. They did suck for a while even the Yankees do from time to time it is true. But know they are the Kings of New York sports. Mets only wish they could be like the Yankees at least Met Fan's do.  Laker have an really good big man Pal Gasol, Bynum he is a big and he is a great player a great both are great what the heat need they are so outsized it not even funny. Odom is a big he good also he been with Kobe for a long time. The Lakers are huge bigger then the Heat something the Heat can't match.

Hell no Kobe ant the Best Ever he is the best right know. He is the best player right no. NO WAY HE IS BETTER THEN JORDAN HE GOOD BUT NO JORDAN. THAT JOKE IN SOUTH BEACH ISN'T EITHER HE NEEDED TO TAKE 23 OFF HIS BACK THOUGH IT IS RETIRED IN SOUTH BEACH ANYWAYS PAT RESPECTS THE BEST PLAYER THAT EVER PLAYED BASKETBALL. Lebron shown by going to South Beach he not Kobe or Jordan. But again Jordan is better then them both.
Babe Ruth  
#129 | 1430 days ago

(Edited by TatsuKlinga2812812)
jaysinw wrote:
hahahahaha youi are an Idiot yes the Yankees do go out and over pay for players who are trash, like you said you were a yankees fan back in the 80's you were what 5???? The yankees sucked, you are on the ban wagon could not even tell me yankees back from the 80 or early 90s. I grew up in NY not so farm town in upstate and even as a kid we new the players on the team. not only did I know the Mets but the other teams out there for wwe talked about baseball, played it. Still being a kid. The Philles being the only team really shows you how much you even no about the sport. The Heat does not need a big man to win the Lakers prove that. Kobe the best??????? I am not even going to get into it with you about that you think Kobe, not even Jordan thinks that.
I'm really from Elmira New York a small city I never lived in Horseheads ever. WE PLAYED BASKETBALL AS KIDS AND FOOTBALL AS KIDS BUT DIDN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE SPORT ON TV I THOUGH IT WAS BORING UNTIL I GOT OLDER DIFFERENT CITY I GUESS.  I SAID THE PHILLIES ARE THE ONLY GOOD TEAM IN THE NL. IF THE LEAGUES WERE REORDERS THE PHILLIES ARE THE ONLY TEAM IN MY BOOK THAT CAN MATCH AN AL TEAM 162 GAMES NO OTHER NL TEAM EVEN HAS A SHOT. DEF NOT THE HORRIBLE MET'S THAT TEAM IS WEAK.

KROD HOW GOOD HE IS HE WALK THE BEST CLOSER EVER WITH THE BASES LOADED THE FIRST RBI FOR MO EVER STRAIGHT UP.

Castillo DROPPED THE MOST EASY OF POP UPS EVER DROPPED IT HE SUCKS.

PEOPLE MISSING THIRD BASE HOW THE HELL DO YOU MISS THIRD BASE FUNNY I WAS DIEING. THE METS ARE A CIRCUS.
Mike Pelfrey SOMETIMES GOOD SOMETIMES BAD MOSTLY BAD WHEN YOU NEED HIM THE MOST.  YOU NEED A LEADER ON THE PITCHING STAFF IN TROUBLE WITH SANTANA. PELFREY IS A BIG JOKE. i pay attention to other team Mets for sure  that team is a laughing stock. What about the outfielders flopping around like fish that was funny. WAS THE PEGAN DOING THAT NOT SURE

YOU HAVE A CENTERFIELDER WHO DOESN'T EVEN TELL HIS TEAM HE HAVING SUGERY ON HIS LEG AND MISSES MOST OF THE YEAR FUNNY THAT IS THE TEAM THAT IS THE JOKE OF BASEBALL.   MINOR LEAGUE PLAYERS KNOW THE FUNDIMENTALS BETTER THEN THOSE FOOLS


ALL YOUR MET PLAYERS ARE TRASH THAT'S ABOUT IT
YOU HAVE K-ROD BEAT UP OLD PEOPLE AND WALK THE BEST CLOSER IN THE GAME WITH THE BASES LOADED WHY.
YOU HAVE OLLY NO NEED TO GET INTO HIM WASTE MY TIME
JOHAN SANTANA WHO DOESN'T EVEN COMPLETE A SEASON HE ALWAY'S HURT.
PELFRY WHO SOMETIMES GOOD BUT MOSTLY BAD CAN'T FIGURE WHO HE IS

YOU HAVE DAVID WRIGHT WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO TAG THIRD BASE SOMETHING YOU LEARN IN GRADE SCHOOL WHO A CREAM PUFF. HE SOFT AND WEAK
YOU HAVE  CASTILLO WHO CAN'T CATCH THE EASIEST FLY BALL IN THE WORLD TO CATCH.
YOU HAVE RAYES WHO GET'S HURT FARTING
YOU HAVE PEGAN WHO FLOPS IN THE OUTFIELD LIKE A FISH TRYING TO CATCH A BALL
YOU HAVE JASON BAY HE GETS A BOO BOO ON HIS LITTLE HEAD AND MISSES THE REST OF THE SEASON RUNNING INTO THE WALL.  WHO ONLY HITS 9 HOMERUN'S

DO THE SAME I DID WITH THE YANKEES. THE YANKEES ARE FAR AND AWAY MORE IMPRESSIVE. IF THE YANKEES ARE TRASH. THAT MEAN'S THE METS ARE NUCLEAR WASTE THEY JUST EXPLODE. I HAVE A LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM AND I TELL THEM TO WATCH THE MET'S TO LEARN WHAT NOT TO DO. WHAT I SAID IS JUST ABOUT THE PLAYERS


WHAT ABOUT HAVING A MANAGER WHO WON THE PREVIOUS GAME HAVING HIM FLY ALL THE WAY ACCROSS THE UNITED STATES THEN FIRE HIM AT NIGHT CRAZY EVEN BEFORE HE HAS A SHOT AT PLAYING A GAME. HE WAS A FORMER YANKEE ALSO HE SHOULD OF BEEN TREATED BETTER.

YOU HAVE BELTRAN WHO DOESN'T EVEN TELL THE METS HE GOING FOR SURGERY UNTIL AFTER IT IS DONE THEN MISSES. HE ALSO HATES THE TEAM.  HALF THE SEASON

I CAN GO ONE AND ON AND ON THAT TEAM IS TRASH LOOK AT THE YANKEES A FAR BETTER TEAM.
Babe Ruth  
#130 | 1429 days ago

ML31 wrote:
SOOOOOOOO ITS THE OWNERS THAT HIT THE BALL IT IS THE GM THAT PITCHES THE BALL. IT IS THE MANAGER THE FIELDS THE BALL IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS.

What?  Who ever made THAT claim?  I sure didn't.  All I said was no individual player ever won a World Series.  It was always a team thing.

WELL IT IS THE TRUTH

You are doing it again.  Deflecting away from the issue.  You are obviously incapable of responding to my points since you employ this tactic.  Ba a man.  Own up to it.

THE YANKEES WILL HAVE GREAT PITCHING 2011 THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE WITH CLIFF LEE

The same Cliff Lee who lost twice to the "lowly" Giants in the World Series?    Knock yourself out.  He isn't even close to being a top major league pitcher these days.

THE ROTATION WITH SABATHIA, LEE, HUGHES, PETTITTE IF HE RESIGNS AND AJ

That rotation is not very good.  Sabathia is the only competent player in it.  And he wouldn't win games if the Yankys didn't score almost 8 runs a game for him.  Your #1 guy would be #3 on the Giants staff.  Pettitte and AJ wouldn't make it and Lee or Hughes would be #5 at best.

YOU ARE CRAZY DUDE WHAT YOU DO IN THE POST SEASON IS FAR FAR FAR MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANYTHING YOU DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

But it is not as impressive.  Like I said...  Anyone can get hot for a week.  Only the best get hot for 6 months.

BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE.

Not in the AL where you don't need a bench.  But with no DH, you really do need ALL players to do it.  The Giants last year needed played 24 of their 25 players.

YAKEES SCORE MOOOOOOOOOOOOORE RUN'S THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL

And in spite of that, they still only managed 2nd place.  Guess they needed a little better pitching.

UT HE CAN STEAL ANY TIME HE WANT'S

And yet he doesn't.  If you have the skill, you use it.  Obviously he doesn't have that skill.  Don't make excuses for it.

JEALOUS YOUR TEAM DOESN'T HAVE MONEY.

Not at all.  My team probably spends more than they should.  They are in the upper half of the Majors in payroll.  Sometimes even the upper 1/3.  that's plenty. 

THE OWNERS DON'T NEED MORE MONEY THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH

I don't care how rich the owners are.  I only care about what is best for baseball.  If owners all losing money would make for a better product on the field, I would be all for that.  But it doesn't.  I want ALL teams to be able to compete for the title.  Not just a few.  Like you seem to want.  You are selfish.

THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL.

If they were really doing something right, let them make the playoffs every year spending 2/3 of what they do now.  Only then could you make the claim they are doing something right.  Until then, they are in only because of money. 

THAT A-ROD JOB TO HIT HOME RUN NOT DEREK JETER'S

Then why are you talking about what a great home run hitter he is?

WHO CARES I DON'T

You brought it up.  Seems to you care, Mr. Contradiction.

DEREK JETER YOUR WORST ISN'T PART OF THE WORLD SERIES WIN'S HE HAS. DEREK JETER DOESN'T HAVE 5 WORLD SERIE

Huh?  What?  You often deflect away from the issue at had, but can you please make SENSE when responding?

STERIOD MAKE YOU FOCUS MORE GIVE YOU MORE POWER

They don't increase mental discipline.  And they don't give you more home run power.  These are medical facts.

I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. VIN DOG SCHOOLED YOU ON THIS PART.

Surprised you don't want to go down that road only to get slammed by me again.  You go down other roads and get slammed by me and others all the time.  Vin never schooled me on anything.  He had nothing but his voice and I provided actual links to medical studies and the results of statisticians to prove him wrong.

STATISTIC DO SHOW IT IF YOU THINK NO YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

I could link you to the study (AGAIN) but I'm sure you will just ignore it.

NOT ALWAY'S MANY GAMES JORDAN GAVE THE SHOT TO ANOTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER LIKE STEVE KERR.

Who?

JORDAN HAS 6 BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS. BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES RINGS

And the circle continues.  Basketball is NOT baseball.  One guy can change everything in basketball.  Not so in baseball at all.  Remember that pesky line up that you can't change?  Therefore, your comment remains worthless.

BONDS WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT TO PLAY FOR THE YANKEES HE CHOSE ANOTHER TEAM WHICH WAS STUPID IF HE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES HE WOULD HAVE 4 OR SO WORLD SERIES RINGS.

Never heard of that...  But if true, it shows a rare moment of class on his part.

IT TAKES FAR MORE SKILL TO BE A SHORT STOP

Not more skills.  Just different skills.

YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN FASTER AT SHORT STOP. 

Give me a break.  That was a ridiculous thing to say even for you.

SHORT STOP TO OUTFIELD

No.  Jeter to Ichiro.

WHO HAS 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS NOT RIPKEN OR SUZUKI.

Yes, but both Ichiro and Ripken are better than Jeter.  Buddy Biancalana has more rings than Ichiro.  That doesn't mean he was the better player.

MATZUI WAS AN IRON HORSE

A DH is less than half a player.  That hardly makes him an "iron horse".

CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER FOR WHAT I SEE.

You see poorly.  The best arm HAS to be in right.  Bonds played left because he had a weak arm.  But he made up for it by playing the angles better than anyone and being quick.

AND ALL 4 PLAYERS HAVE GOLD GLOVES TO SHOW IT.

Gold Gloves are worthless and you know it.  They even gave a Gold Glove to a DH once.  That proves it.

ON LITTLE PART MAYBE BUT MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER WHEN THEY WERE BOTH PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

that isn't true either.

WATCH CNN THEY SAID 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN

Link, please?

WELL MANY AMERICAN PLAYERS ARE IN JAPAN SO.

If they could get major league contracts, they would be in the USA.  Not Japan.

THAT IS A BULL SHIT GAME. PLAY THE WBC WHEN IT ALL STAR TIME NOT WHEN MOST PLAYERS ARE DOING THE SPRING TRAINING THING. THAT BULLSHIP AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS BULLSHIP.

It would be logistically impossible to play the WBC mid season.  Spring training is the best time to do it.  The World Cup of Hockey is played during training camp.  No problems with that.  And while the tournament format may not be the best, it is still telling how well the Japanese team has fared in both.  Odds are very long it was a fluke.

BABE RUTH WAS A GOOD FIELDER MANY THINK HE WASN'T BUT YOU READ BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS HE WAS A GOOD ALL AROUND PLAYER.

By all accounts, Ruth was a less than spectacular outfielder.  This is well known.  He didn't cover much ground.  He was actually not all that interested in playing the field.  If he played after 1973, he would have been a DH.

I WATCH FOOTBALL A REAL MAN SPORT.

the lazy man's sport.  The american version, that is.

YOU HAVE REALLY NO CLUE WHAT PED'S NONE. WATCH THE MOVIE THE HULK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT PED'S CAN DO IT NOT THAT BAD BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HULK OR INCRIDBLE HULK.

That's too funny!!!!   You just continue to cement your reputation around here!   Keep it up!!   LOLOLOL!!!!!!

WELL THE PED'S THAT ATHELETS ARE GIVING ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATE THEY ARE YOU DON'T NEED ANY POST TO KNOW THIS LOL....

Yep.  I asked for links and as expected, you failed to provide.  How predictable.

I CAN SAY OPRAH IS WORTH NOTHING COMPARED TO BILL GATES

Excellent example.  You would still be wrong.

SPORTS RADIO HE EVEN SAID IT IS HARD TO EXPAND MLB IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE FUTURE IS IN OTHER COUNTRY'S

Nope.  He never said that.  Care to find a link to an article that quoted him?  If true, it should be easy to find.

THE NBA AND NHL IS GOING TO GO TOO ANOTHER COUNTRY SOONER OR LATER

No, they are not.  They have no plans to.

FACE IT THE FUTURE IS OVER SEA'S YOU DON'T WANNA SEA AMERICAN BASEBALL OVER SEA BUT THEY CAN MAKE ALOT OF MONEY OVER SEA'S

Actually, I think it would be great to have baseball overseas.  I want it to happen.  But I am a realist.  They need to fix their issues here at home before they start expanding again.  Further, there are great markets for expansion here at home for expansion if the time ever comes.  Overseas expansion is a VERY VERY long way away.  Not likely in yours or my lifetime.

BLUE JAY'S ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME IN CANADA.

The Jays are doing fine.

....WELL JAPAN HONOR AMERICAN BASEBALL THEY DO THEY BUY A LOT OF GEAR FROM THE UNITED STATES.

I repeat...  That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years.

LOL. GO TO MLB, YAHOO, ESPN, CNN AMONG OTHER SITE FOX REAL SITES.

I go to MLB.  Not Yahoo.  Occasionally ESPN.  Not CNN or FOX.  But all I got to are "real" sites.

HE IS HUGES IN JAPAN LOOK AT THE SHOE SELLS IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP DO SOME OF YOUR HOMEWORK HE SELLS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SHOES IN JAPAN.

I see..  Because people buy shoes it must be because they love American basketball players.  You logic is amazing.

CHINA IT IS BIG. JAPAN IT IS BIG

Basketball was a small sport in China until that freak Ming made it to the states.  But they like Ming.  Not so much basketball.  Big difference.  In Japan, many still don't even know what basketball is.

YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR A HATER OF BLACK SPORTS. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NFL BLACK SPORT OR NBA BLACK SPORT. NHL WHITE SPORT, MLB STILL A WHITE SPORT. SOCCER WHITE SPORT.

I had no idea you were so racist.  I would never classify a sport by a race.  Shame on you.

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN IN 2009 FACT CNN ISN'T GOING TO LIE YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN DO WELL IN JAPAN.

Sure would be nice if you could actually support that with something besides your unreliable self.

CNN NOT ON THE INTERNET CNN THEY HAVE SOME CHANNELS OVER IN JAPAN ALSO MANY MIGHT OF THEM MIGHT HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO TAPE CNN FOR A ZOMBIE NOPE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LOL

Every story CNN does can be found on their website.  It shouldn't be that hard.  It wasn't that long ago.  Any more excuses?

THE HIGHEST VIEWERSHIP IS THE YANKEES LOOK IT UP.

I did.  The highest ratings AND VIEWERS, was a World Series that did NOT include the Yankees.  It was between the Phillies and Royals.

YOUR A LOSER YOUR A FAN OF A LOSER TEAM.

And yet this loser team just won the World Series with a payroll of less than HALF of your team.  Go figure.

YOUR A FAN OF SOCCER AN LOSER SPORT.

That "loser" sport is the most popular sport on this planet.

YOUR A SWIMMER SO YOUR A PANSY ATHLETE.

And yet is has been reported that swimmers are often in the best shape of ALL athletes....

IF THE YANKEES ARE LOSERS SO WHY DO YOU WANT THE MONEY

I don't want their money.  I want ALL teams to share.  Not just the Yankees.  They are all part of the same business, you know.

THEY CAN MAKE THERE OWN LEAGUE LOL

So, they would be like the Globetrotters playing the Generals every day....   LOL

YANKEES ARE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE MLB BASEBALL.

Impossible.  The Yankees are part of MLB.  The entire worth of MLB would HAVE to be more than the Yankees alone.  A TON more.

BASEBALL PROPERTY BECAUSE THE YANKEES ARE NOT JUST BASEBALL ANYMORE

They aren't?  Funny...  They still play in the American League and follow all the MLB rules....   Are the Yankees that are currently a part of MLB impostors?

YOU WANT TO SHARE EVERY WHAT ARE THE PIRATES AND GIANTS AN OTHER TEAM'S LIKE THAT GOING TO PUT IN THE TILL NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE'S

Perhaps not.  But it is better for the whole.  It will help all.  Including the Yankees.  A rising tide lifts ALL boats.

PLUS YOU WANT TO CAP THE YANKEES.

The cap would affect everyone.  Not JUST the Yankees.  It is about what is best for MLB, dude.  Something you do not understand.  You seem to want the Yankees to succeed and have MLB fail.  Which shows how blind you are because if MLB goes down, so will the Yankees.

I WANT MY TEAM TO DO WELL I CARE ABOUT THAT AND ALL I NEED TO CARE ABOUT.

You are proving my point.  You would keep your finger in the hole in the dam while the rest of it collapses around you.

WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF THE TEAM'S THAT DON'T PRODUCE

Which would result in MLB becoming even LESS popular... Leading to LESS revenue.  Leading to even LESS productive teams.  It is a vicious cycle you are endorsing that could only result in the destruction of MLB.  Including the Yankees.

BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THE GIANT'S CAN EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN LOL.

Maybe.  That would be because the NL West is more difficult to win.

LOOK IT UP DO WATCH ESPN, MLB NETWORK EVEN THE NEW MET MANAGERS SAID THE AL HAVE BETTER LINEUP YESTERDAY.

A couple of eastern biased idiots have made that claim on the air.  But it is not the prevailing attitude among baseball experts.

What was the point of the links you provided?  They didn't support your point, and if you actually read them, they support MINE.

Why didn't you provide links for the stuff I actually asked you to provide links for?  Was it because they don't exist because you know what you claimed was crap?
SOOOOOOOO ITS THE OWNERS THAT HIT THE BALL IT IS THE GM THAT PITCHES THE BALL. IT IS THE MANAGER THE FIELDS THE BALL IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS.

What?  Who ever made THAT claim?  I sure didn't.  All I said was no individual player ever won a World Series. BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES. SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM. THE 5 RINGS HE EARNED THE YANKEES.  It was always a team thing.TAKES INDIVIDUALS TO DO IT CAN'T BE DONE BY THE OWNER WHY THEY HIRE THE PLAYERS TO PLAY. DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

WELL IT IS THE TRUTH

You are doing it again.  Deflecting away from the issue.  You are obviously incapable of responding to my points since you employ this tactic.  Ba a man.  Own up to it.

THE YANKEES WILL HAVE GREAT PITCHING 2011 THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE WITH CLIFF LEE

The same Cliff Lee who lost twice to the "lowly" Giants in the World Series? COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU. YOU DON'T KNOW BASEBALL TO WELL DO YOU.    Knock yourself out.  He isn't even close to being a top major league pitcher these days. HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

THE ROTATION WITH SABATHIA, LEE, HUGHES, PETTITTE IF HE RESIGNS AND AJ

That rotation is not very good.  Sabathia is the only competent player in it.  And he wouldn't win games if the Yankys didn't score almost 8 runs a game for him.  Your #1 guy would be #3 on the Giants staff.  Pettitte and AJ wouldn't make it and Lee or Hughes would be #5 at best. HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD. 18 WINS. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM. HIS PROBLEM HE IS TO STREAKY FOR THE TALENT HE HAS. AJ IS A REALLY GOOD PITCHER.

YOU ARE CRAZY DUDE WHAT YOU DO IN THE POST SEASON IS FAR FAR FAR MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANYTHING YOU DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

But it is not as impressive.  Like I said...  Anyone can get hot for a week.  Only the best get hot for 6 months. WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS BUT THE YANKEES SURE WAS. LIKE ALWAYS.  BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE. IT DOES TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE WORLD SERIES

Not in the AL where you don't need a bench.  But with no DH, you really do need ALL players to do it. .FORGET THE TEAMS DON'T HAVE AN DH IN AN NL PARK. YANKEE DESTORY THE NL ALL THE TIME IN THE NL PARKS DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM. The Giants last year needed played 24 of their 25 players.

YANKEES SCORE MOOOOOOOOOOOOORE RUN'S THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL

And in spite of that, they still only managed 2nd place.  Guess they needed a little better pitching. THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

UT HE CAN STEAL ANY TIME HE WANT'S

And yet he doesn't.  If you have the skill, you use it.  Obviously he doesn't have that skill.  Don't make excuses for it. LOL YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.



THE OWNERS DON'T NEED MORE MONEY THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH

I don't care how rich the owners are.  I only care about what is best for baseball.  If owners all losing money would make for a better product on the field, I would be all for that.  But it doesn't.  I want ALL teams to be able to compete for the title.  Not just a few.  Like you seem to want.  You are selfish. SELFISH BLAH BLAH BLAH SWEET. TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL.

If they were really doing something right, let them make the playoffs every year spending 2/3 of what they do now.  Only then could you make the claim they are doing something right.  Until then, they are in only because of money. TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP. THEY HAVE A FEW SUPERSTAR FROM OTHER TEAMS BUT MOST OF IT IS ON THERE OWN.   CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

THAT A-ROD JOB TO HIT HOME RUN NOT DEREK JETER'S

Then why are you talking about what a great home run hitter he is? LOL HE IS A GOOD ENOUGH HOME RUN HITTER FOR WHAT WE NEED. BUT IT IS AROD JOB TO DO THAT AND HE IS REALLY GREAT AT IT.




STERIOD MAKE YOU FOCUS MORE GIVE YOU MORE POWER

They don't increase mental discipline.  And they don't give you more home run power.  These are medical facts. ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. VIN DOG SCHOOLED YOU ON THIS PART.

Surprised you don't want to go down that road only to get slammed by me again. YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.  You go down other roads and get slammed by me and others all the time.  Vin never schooled me on anything.  He had nothing but his voice and I provided actual links to medical studies and the results of statisticians to prove him wrong. LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH. I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE THINKING IN THIS WORLD THE WORLD IS FLAT LOL. LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

STATISTIC DO SHOW IT IF YOU THINK NO YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

I could link you to the study (AGAIN) but I'm sure you will just ignore it.LOL BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

NOT ALWAY'S MANY GAMES JORDAN GAVE THE SHOT TO ANOTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER LIKE STEVE KERR.

Who? YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

JORDAN HAS 6 BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS. BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES RINGS

And the circle continues.  Basketball is NOT baseball.  One guy can change everything in basketball.  Not so in baseball at all. PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG LOL.  Remember that pesky line up that you can't change?  Therefore, your comment remains worthless.

BONDS WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT TO PLAY FOR THE YANKEES HE CHOSE ANOTHER TEAM WHICH WAS STUPID IF HE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES HE WOULD HAVE 4 OR SO WORLD SERIES RINGS.

Never heard of that...  But if true, it shows a rare moment of class on his part. THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

IT TAKES FAR MORE SKILL TO BE A SHORT STOP

Not more skills.  Just different skills. LOL MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN FASTER AT SHORT STOP.

Give me a break.  That was a ridiculous thing to say even for you. WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

SHORT STOP TO OUTFIELD

No.  Jeter to Ichiro. CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

WHO HAS 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS NOT RIPKEN OR SUZUKI.

Yes, but both Ichiro and Ripken are better than Jeter. JETER A BETTER PLAYER THEN RIPKEN THAT STATEMENT IS WRONG  Buddy Biancalana has more rings than Ichiro.  That doesn't mean he was the better player.

MATZUI WAS AN IRON HORSE

A DH is less than half a player.  HE WAS MOSTLY AN LEFT FIELDER. YOU DON'T KNOW CRAP JUST IN RECENT TIMES HE WAS A DH. That hardly makes him an "iron horse".WELL UNTIL HE GOT HURT HE WAS MOSTLY AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER FOR WHAT I SEE. YANKEES CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST OUTFIELDER.

You see poorly.  The best arm HAS to be in right.  Bonds played left because he had a weak arm.  But he made up for it by playing the angles better than anyone and being quick. DRINKING JUICE

AND ALL 4 PLAYERS HAVE GOLD GLOVES TO SHOW IT.

Gold Gloves are worthless and you know it.  They even gave a Gold Glove to a DH once.  That proves it. A-ROD WAS A GOOD FIELDER, CANO IS A GOOD FIELDER, TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

ON LITTLE PART MAYBE BUT MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER WHEN THEY WERE BOTH PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

that isn't true either. YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM SAYING IT WAS SO YOU JUST WANNA BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANNA BELIEVE. MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

WATCH CNN THEY SAID 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN

Link, please? WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE LOL LEARN SOMETHING I WATCH CNN A LOT. FOX AND OTHER ONES ALSO I LIKE TO LEARN WATCH IT YOURSELF. LEARN SOMETHING. GIVE ME A LINK SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

WELL MANY AMERICAN PLAYERS ARE IN JAPAN SO.



THAT IS A BULL SHIT GAME. PLAY THE WBC WHEN IT ALL STAR TIME NOT WHEN MOST PLAYERS ARE DOING THE SPRING TRAINING THING. THAT BULLSHIP AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS BULLSHIP.

It would be logistically impossible to play the WBC mid season.  Spring training is the best time to do it. NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES. GET THE MLB PLAYERS WARMED UP DO IT IN THE SUMMER THEY WOULD CRUSH JAPAN. NOO THEY DO IT WHEN THE PLAYERS ARE GETTING WARMED UP FOR THE REGULAR SEASON.  The World Cup of Hockey is played during training camp.  No problems with that. HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS MAYBE THE ONE SPORT OUT OF THE 4 BIG SPORT THE US IS WEAKER AT.  And while the tournament format may not be the best, it is still telling how well the Japanese team has fared in both.  Odds are very long it was a fluke. IT A FLUKE THE MLB PLAYERS WERE NOT READY THEY WERE NOT READY YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THE MLB PLAYERS WOULD KILL JAPAN.

BABE RUTH WAS A GOOD FIELDER MANY THINK HE WASN'T BUT YOU READ BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS HE WAS A GOOD ALL AROUND PLAYER.

By all accounts, Ruth was a less than spectacular outfielder.  This is well known.  He didn't cover much ground.  He was actually not all that interested in playing the field.  If he played after 1973, he would have been a DH. READ A BOOK OR TWO HE WAS A GOOD OUTFIELDER IT A MYTH HE AS A BAD FIELDER BUT YOU HAVE NO REAL IDEA ON RUTH AT ALL. HE WAS A GOOD OUTFIELDER AND HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF. WAS HE THE BEST NO BUT HE WAS STILL GOOD.

I WATCH FOOTBALL A REAL MAN SPORT.

the lazy man's sport.  The american version, that is. LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

YOU HAVE REALLY NO CLUE WHAT PED'S NONE. WATCH THE MOVIE THE HULK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT PED'S CAN DO IT NOT THAT BAD BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HULK OR INCRIDBLE HULK.

That's too funny!!!!   You just continue to cement your reputation around here!   Keep it up!!   LOLOLOL!!!!!! IT COMPARING PEOPLE ON PED'S TO WHEN THEY ARE NOT ON THEM IT LIKE THE INCRIDIBLE HULK FOR REAL THEY ARE FINE ONE MINUTE AND JUST BLOW UP. LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.



WELL THE PED'S THAT ATHELETS ARE GIVING ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATE THEY ARE YOU DON'T NEED ANY POST TO KNOW THIS LOL....

Yep.  I asked for links and as expected, you failed to provide.  How predictable. I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK UP THEY ARE PRODUCED IN ILLEGAL LABS UNDERGROUND LAPS IN OF SHORE MARKETS AND EVEN IN THE UNITED STATES,

I CAN SAY OPRAH IS WORTH NOTHING COMPARED TO BILL GATES

Excellent example.  You would still be wrong.

SPORTS RADIO HE EVEN SAID IT IS HARD TO EXPAND MLB IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE FUTURE IS IN OTHER COUNTRY'S

Nope.  He never said that.  Care to find a link to an article that quoted him?IT WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.  If true, it should be easy to find. IT WAS A VERBLE INTERVIEW LOL FOOL THEY HAD THE POD CAST BUT NO LONGER DO EVEN IF I GAVE IT TO YOU YOU WON'T HEAR IT.

THE NBA AND NHL IS GOING TO GO TOO ANOTHER COUNTRY SOONER OR LATER

No, they are not.  They have no plans to.YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE NBA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND IN JAPAN AN OTHER COUNTRIES I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT HE SAID IT A FEW TIMES, MR KNOW IT ALL. WATCH MORE TV WATCH MORE INTERVIEWS WHY DON'T YOU. YOU DON'T EVEN FN FOLLOW THE NBA FOR EVEN SAKES DUDE. TELL ME I BEEN FOLLOWING IT FOR YEARS.



BLUE JAY'S ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME IN CANADA.

The Jays are doing fine. NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

....WELL JAPAN HONOR AMERICAN BASEBALL THEY DO THEY BUY A LOT OF GEAR FROM THE UNITED STATES.

I repeat...  That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years.

LOL. GO TO MLB, YAHOO, ESPN, CNN AMONG OTHER SITE FOX REAL SITES.

I go to MLB.  Not Yahoo.  Occasionally ESPN.  Not CNN or FOX.  But all I got to are "real" sites.

HE IS HUGES IN JAPAN LOOK AT THE SHOE SELLS IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP DO SOME OF YOUR HOMEWORK HE SELLS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SHOES IN JAPAN.

I see..  Because people buy shoes it must be because they love American basketball players.  You logic is amazing. LOL WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS. JORDAN WAS A MONSTER IN JAPAN AND CHINA HE WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST STARS IN THE UNITED STATES. HE WAS HUGE IN JAPAN. PEOPLE IN JAPAN PAY FOR A RIPPED PAIR OF JORDANS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TELLS ME SOMETHING. UNLIKE UP PEOPLE DO LIKE BASKETBALL IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.

CHINA IT IS BIG. JAPAN IT IS BIG

Basketball was a small sport in China until that freak Ming made it to the states.  But they like Ming.  Not so much basketball.  Big difference.  In Japan, many still don't even know what basketball is. JORDAN WAS BIG IN JAPAN. THE USA TEAM IN 2008 WAS HUGE IN CHINA YOU DON'T KNOW THAT HUGE.

YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR A HATER OF BLACK SPORTS. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NFL BLACK SPORT OR NBA BLACK SPORT. NHL WHITE SPORT, MLB STILL A WHITE SPORT. SOCCER WHITE SPORT.

I had no idea you were so racist.  I would never classify a sport by a race.  Shame on you. I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME FOR SOME REASON YOU DON'T LIKE MOSTLY BLACK SPORTS I HAVE MORE BLACK PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY THEN I CAN COUNT.

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN IN 2009 FACT CNN ISN'T GOING TO LIE YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN DO WELL IN JAPAN.

Sure would be nice if you could actually support that with something besides your unreliable self. WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

CNN NOT ON THE INTERNET CNN THEY HAVE SOME CHANNELS OVER IN JAPAN ALSO MANY MIGHT OF THEM MIGHT HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO TAPE CNN FOR A ZOMBIE NOPE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LOL

Every story CNN does can be found on their website.  It shouldn't be that hard.  It wasn't that long ago.  Any more excuses? LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO. MIGHT EVEN BE AT YOUTUBE YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THAT. YOU CAN DO THAT WORK YOURSELF.


YOUR A LOSER YOUR A FAN OF A LOSER TEAM.

And yet this loser team just won the World Series with a payroll of less than HALF of your team.  Go figure.

YOUR A FAN OF SOCCER AN LOSER SPORT.

That "loser" sport is the most popular sport on this planet.IT IS A JOKE

YOUR A SWIMMER SO YOUR A PANSY ATHLETE.

And yet is has been reported that swimmers are often in the best shape of ALL athletes....LOL I DON'T THINK SO PEOPLE THAT PUT HOURS IN THE GYM LIKE I USE TO.



THEY CAN MAKE THERE OWN LEAGUE LOL

So, they would be like the Globetrotters playing the Generals every day....   LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

YANKEES ARE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE MLB BASEBALL.

Impossible.  The Yankees are part of MLB.  The entire worth of MLB would HAVE to be more than the Yankees alone.  A TON more WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

BASEBALL PROPERTY BECAUSE THE YANKEES ARE NOT JUST BASEBALL ANYMORE

They aren't?  Funny...  They still play in the American League and follow all the MLB rules....   Are the Yankees that are currently a part of MLB impostors? THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL AT ALL. NOT AT ALL DUDE.

YOU WANT TO SHARE EVERY WHAT ARE THE PIRATES AND GIANTS AN OTHER TEAM'S LIKE THAT GOING TO PUT IN THE TILL NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE'S

Perhaps not.  But it is better for the whole.  It will help all.  Including the Yankees.  A rising tide lifts ALL boats. WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.


I WANT MY TEAM TO DO WELL I CARE ABOUT THAT AND ALL I NEED TO CARE ABOUT.

You are proving my point.  You would keep your finger in the hole in the dam while the rest of it collapses around you. NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE DUDE GET OVER IT BASEBALL FINE THEY ARE MAKING RECORD PROFITS TRUST MEAN BUD HAS SAID THAT ALSO YOU WANT A LINK WELL COME TO NEW YORK AND FOLLOW WHAT THEY HAVE ON TV BECAUSE YOUR AREA IS FORSURE LACKING IN BASEBALL NEWS AND INTERVIEWS BLAH BLAH BLAH. WATCH AND READ SOMETHING ONCE IN A WHILE

WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF THE TEAM'S THAT DON'T PRODUCE

Which would result in MLB becoming even LESS popular... Leading to LESS revenue.  Leading to even LESS productive teams.  It is a vicious cycle you are endorsing that could only result in the destruction of MLB.  Including the Yankees.PIRATES NEED TO GO.

BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THE GIANT'S CAN EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN LOL.

Maybe.  That would be because the NL West is more difficult to win. NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL THAT IS ALL. ITS LIKE A LOTTO WHO EVER GETS THE BALL GETS TOO THE PLAYOFFS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TALENT YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE. UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

LOOK IT UP DO WATCH ESPN, MLB NETWORK EVEN THE NEW MET MANAGERS SAID THE AL HAVE BETTER LINEUP YESTERDAY.

A couple of eastern biased idiots have made that claim on the air. NL MANAGER, NL MANAGER WHO MANAGED BOTH LEAGUES LOL HE WAS KNOW. But it is not the prevailing attitude among baseball experts. ONLY YOUR STUPID EXPERT THE ONE OR TWO THAT TAKE YOUR SIDE. MOST TAKE MY SIDE MOST KNOW THE AL IS FAR AND WAY MORE DIFFICULT THEN THE NL MOST HAVE SAID IT UNLESS YOU GET A DIFFERENT BROADCAST MOST KNOW.

What was the point of the links you provided?  They didn't support your point, and if you actually read them, they support MINE. NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE. THE YANKEES HAD THE BEST RATINGS IN FOUR YEARS DUDE. LET'S FACE IT THE YANKEES ARE BETTER TO WATCH THEN THE GIANT'S THE JUNK TEAM.

Why didn't you provide links for the stuff I actually asked you to provide links for?  Was it because they don't exist because you know what you claimed was crap? WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.
Babe Ruth  
#131 | 1429 days ago

(Edited by TatsuKlinga2812812)
Pat wrote:
Just to get you started...
ERA: Hernandez 2.27, Price 2.72, Sabathia 3.18
K's: Hernandez 232, Sabathia 197, Price 188
IP: Hernandez 249.2, Sabathia 237.2, Price 208.2
WHIP: Hernandez 1.06, Price 1.19, Sabathia 1.19
Quality start percentage: Hernandez 88%, Price 81%, Sabathia 76%
K/BB: Hernandez 3.31, Sabathia 2.66, Price 2.38
K/9IP: Hernandez 8.36, Price 8.11, Sabathia 7.46
Opp. AVG: Hernandez .212, Price .221, Sabathia .239
Opp OPS: Hernandez .585, Price .637, Sabathia .656

And the most important stat, in my opinion, which completely debunks the popular argument that Felix's W-L record wasn't good enough:
Run Support: Sabathia 7.31, Price 7.03, Hernandez 3.75 (source)

So if you can come up with something that still proves Sabathia and/or Price were better than Hernandez, despite all of those stats that show how much better Felix was, then let me know. Until then, you're just babbling.
Just to get you started...
ERA: Hernandez 2.27, Price 2.72, Sabathia 3.18. HELL LETS PUT IT THIS WAY THE YANKEES AND CC SABATHIA HAVE TO FACE HARDER TEAM THEN THE MARINERS IN THE DIVISION THEY PLAY IN.
K's: Hernandez 232, Sabathia 197, Price 188 GOOD LEAD BUT STILL WEAK DIVISIN TO PLAY IN WEAKER HITTING TEAM'S TO GET OUT.
IP: Hernandez 249.2, Sabathia 237.2, Price 208.2 THIS IS A NEAR TIE REALLY IT NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
WHIP: Hernandez 1.06, Price 1.19, Sabathia 1.19 WELL AGAIN HARD DIVISION FOR PRICE AND SABATHIA
Quality start percentage: Hernandez 88%, Price 81%, Sabathia 76% HOW WOULD YOUR TEAM BE IF THEY FACE THE RAY'S AMONG THE OTHER TEAM'S 18 GAMES A YEAR. OH YEAH THEY ALREADY DO.
K/BB: Hernandez 3.31, Sabathia 2.66, Price 2.38 WELL IN THE AL EAST YOU KNOW THIS TO BE FACT THE AT BATS ARE LONG. YANKEES AND RED SOX GAME'S TAKE 5 HOURS BECAUSE THEY TAKE LIKE 10 PITCHES PER AT BAT. THE RAY'S ARENT AS GOOD OF A HITTING TEAM BUT THEY HAVE SPEED. BUT ALL THE TEAM'S TOP TO BOTTOM ARE HARDER TO PLAY IN THE AL EAST THEN THE AL WEST YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT DUDE THE RED SOX PLAY THE YANKEES A LOT
K/9IP: Hernandez 8.36, Price 8.11, Sabathia 7.46
Opp. AVG: Hernandez .212, Price .221, Sabathia .239
Opp OPS: Hernandez .585, Price .637, Sabathia .656

And the most important stat, in my opinion, which completely debunks the popular argument that Felix's W-L record wasn't good enough:
Run Support: Sabathia 7.31, Price 7.03, Hernandez 3.75 (source) WELL TO BAD REALLY BUT HERNADEZ GOT THE AWARD SO IT IS ALL GOOD REALLY. NOTHING MORE I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT..

So if you can come up with something that still proves Sabathia and/or Price were better than Hernandez, despite all of those stats that show how much better Felix was, then let me know. Until then, you're just babbling. 

NO BETTER PITCHER BUT MORE IMPORTANT PITCHER TO THE TEAM'S THEY PLAY FOR PLAY OFF BOUND TEAM'S IN A FAR AND AWAY HARDER DIVISION THEN THE AL WEST. HARDER THEN ALL THE OTHER DIVISIONS IN BASEBALL YOU KNOW THIS DUDE. EVEN THE O'S CAN GIVE YOU HELL THEY AREN'T AN EASY TEAN TOO PLAY STRAIGHT UP. THE BLUE JAY IF YOU PUT THEM IN ANOTHER DIVISION THEY WOULD MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AS WELL AS THE RED SOX. THE AL EAST IS A BLOOD BATH THOUGH THAT NEVER TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHICH IT SHOULD BE.
Babe Ruth  
#132 | 1429 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
SOOOOOOOO ITS THE OWNERS THAT HIT THE BALL IT IS THE GM THAT PITCHES THE BALL. IT IS THE MANAGER THE FIELDS THE BALL IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS.

What?  Who ever made THAT claim?  I sure didn't.  All I said was no individual player ever won a World Series. BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES. SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM. THE 5 RINGS HE EARNED THE YANKEES.  It was always a team thing.TAKES INDIVIDUALS TO DO IT CAN'T BE DONE BY THE OWNER WHY THEY HIRE THE PLAYERS TO PLAY. DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

WELL IT IS THE TRUTH

You are doing it again.  Deflecting away from the issue.  You are obviously incapable of responding to my points since you employ this tactic.  Ba a man.  Own up to it.

THE YANKEES WILL HAVE GREAT PITCHING 2011 THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE WITH CLIFF LEE

The same Cliff Lee who lost twice to the "lowly" Giants in the World Series? COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU. YOU DON'T KNOW BASEBALL TO WELL DO YOU.    Knock yourself out.  He isn't even close to being a top major league pitcher these days. HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

THE ROTATION WITH SABATHIA, LEE, HUGHES, PETTITTE IF HE RESIGNS AND AJ

That rotation is not very good.  Sabathia is the only competent player in it.  And he wouldn't win games if the Yankys didn't score almost 8 runs a game for him.  Your #1 guy would be #3 on the Giants staff.  Pettitte and AJ wouldn't make it and Lee or Hughes would be #5 at best. HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD. 18 WINS. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM. HIS PROBLEM HE IS TO STREAKY FOR THE TALENT HE HAS. AJ IS A REALLY GOOD PITCHER.

YOU ARE CRAZY DUDE WHAT YOU DO IN THE POST SEASON IS FAR FAR FAR MORE IMPORTANT THEN ANYTHING YOU DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

But it is not as impressive.  Like I said...  Anyone can get hot for a week.  Only the best get hot for 6 months. WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS BUT THE YANKEES SURE WAS. LIKE ALWAYS.  BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE. IT DOES TAKE 25 PLAYERS TO WIN ONE WORLD SERIES

Not in the AL where you don't need a bench.  But with no DH, you really do need ALL players to do it. .FORGET THE TEAMS DON'T HAVE AN DH IN AN NL PARK. YANKEE DESTORY THE NL ALL THE TIME IN THE NL PARKS DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM. The Giants last year needed played 24 of their 25 players.

YANKEES SCORE MOOOOOOOOOOOOORE RUN'S THEN ANY OTHER TEAM IN BASEBALL

And in spite of that, they still only managed 2nd place.  Guess they needed a little better pitching. THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

UT HE CAN STEAL ANY TIME HE WANT'S

And yet he doesn't.  If you have the skill, you use it.  Obviously he doesn't have that skill.  Don't make excuses for it. LOL YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.



THE OWNERS DON'T NEED MORE MONEY THEY ARE RICH ENOUGH

I don't care how rich the owners are.  I only care about what is best for baseball.  If owners all losing money would make for a better product on the field, I would be all for that.  But it doesn't.  I want ALL teams to be able to compete for the title.  Not just a few.  Like you seem to want.  You are selfish. SELFISH BLAH BLAH BLAH SWEET. TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOOL.

If they were really doing something right, let them make the playoffs every year spending 2/3 of what they do now.  Only then could you make the claim they are doing something right.  Until then, they are in only because of money. TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP. THEY HAVE A FEW SUPERSTAR FROM OTHER TEAMS BUT MOST OF IT IS ON THERE OWN.   CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

THAT A-ROD JOB TO HIT HOME RUN NOT DEREK JETER'S

Then why are you talking about what a great home run hitter he is? LOL HE IS A GOOD ENOUGH HOME RUN HITTER FOR WHAT WE NEED. BUT IT IS AROD JOB TO DO THAT AND HE IS REALLY GREAT AT IT.




STERIOD MAKE YOU FOCUS MORE GIVE YOU MORE POWER

They don't increase mental discipline.  And they don't give you more home run power.  These are medical facts. ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD. VIN DOG SCHOOLED YOU ON THIS PART.

Surprised you don't want to go down that road only to get slammed by me again. YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.  You go down other roads and get slammed by me and others all the time.  Vin never schooled me on anything.  He had nothing but his voice and I provided actual links to medical studies and the results of statisticians to prove him wrong. LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH. I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE THINKING IN THIS WORLD THE WORLD IS FLAT LOL. LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

STATISTIC DO SHOW IT IF YOU THINK NO YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.

I could link you to the study (AGAIN) but I'm sure you will just ignore it.LOL BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

NOT ALWAY'S MANY GAMES JORDAN GAVE THE SHOT TO ANOTHER BASKETBALL PLAYER LIKE STEVE KERR.

Who? YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

JORDAN HAS 6 BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS. BABE RUTH HAS 7 WORLD SERIES RINGS

And the circle continues.  Basketball is NOT baseball.  One guy can change everything in basketball.  Not so in baseball at all. PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG LOL.  Remember that pesky line up that you can't change?  Therefore, your comment remains worthless.

BONDS WAS OFFERED A CONTRACT TO PLAY FOR THE YANKEES HE CHOSE ANOTHER TEAM WHICH WAS STUPID IF HE PLAYED FOR THE YANKEES HE WOULD HAVE 4 OR SO WORLD SERIES RINGS.

Never heard of that...  But if true, it shows a rare moment of class on his part. THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

IT TAKES FAR MORE SKILL TO BE A SHORT STOP

Not more skills.  Just different skills. LOL MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

YOU HAVE TO BE EVEN FASTER AT SHORT STOP.

Give me a break.  That was a ridiculous thing to say even for you. WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

SHORT STOP TO OUTFIELD

No.  Jeter to Ichiro. CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

WHO HAS 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS NOT RIPKEN OR SUZUKI.

Yes, but both Ichiro and Ripken are better than Jeter. JETER A BETTER PLAYER THEN RIPKEN THAT STATEMENT IS WRONG  Buddy Biancalana has more rings than Ichiro.  That doesn't mean he was the better player.

MATZUI WAS AN IRON HORSE

A DH is less than half a player.  HE WAS MOSTLY AN LEFT FIELDER. YOU DON'T KNOW CRAP JUST IN RECENT TIMES HE WAS A DH. That hardly makes him an "iron horse".WELL UNTIL HE GOT HURT HE WAS MOSTLY AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER FOR WHAT I SEE. YANKEES CENTERFIELD HAS THE BEST OUTFIELDER.

You see poorly.  The best arm HAS to be in right.  Bonds played left because he had a weak arm.  But he made up for it by playing the angles better than anyone and being quick. DRINKING JUICE

AND ALL 4 PLAYERS HAVE GOLD GLOVES TO SHOW IT.

Gold Gloves are worthless and you know it.  They even gave a Gold Glove to a DH once.  That proves it. A-ROD WAS A GOOD FIELDER, CANO IS A GOOD FIELDER, TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

ON LITTLE PART MAYBE BUT MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER WHEN THEY WERE BOTH PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

that isn't true either. YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM SAYING IT WAS SO YOU JUST WANNA BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANNA BELIEVE. MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

WATCH CNN THEY SAID 12 MILLION VIEWERS IN JAPAN

Link, please? WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE LOL LEARN SOMETHING I WATCH CNN A LOT. FOX AND OTHER ONES ALSO I LIKE TO LEARN WATCH IT YOURSELF. LEARN SOMETHING. GIVE ME A LINK SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

WELL MANY AMERICAN PLAYERS ARE IN JAPAN SO.



THAT IS A BULL SHIT GAME. PLAY THE WBC WHEN IT ALL STAR TIME NOT WHEN MOST PLAYERS ARE DOING THE SPRING TRAINING THING. THAT BULLSHIP AND YOU SHOULD KNOW IT IS BULLSHIP.

It would be logistically impossible to play the WBC mid season.  Spring training is the best time to do it. NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES. GET THE MLB PLAYERS WARMED UP DO IT IN THE SUMMER THEY WOULD CRUSH JAPAN. NOO THEY DO IT WHEN THE PLAYERS ARE GETTING WARMED UP FOR THE REGULAR SEASON.  The World Cup of Hockey is played during training camp.  No problems with that. HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS MAYBE THE ONE SPORT OUT OF THE 4 BIG SPORT THE US IS WEAKER AT.  And while the tournament format may not be the best, it is still telling how well the Japanese team has fared in both.  Odds are very long it was a fluke. IT A FLUKE THE MLB PLAYERS WERE NOT READY THEY WERE NOT READY YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THE MLB PLAYERS WOULD KILL JAPAN.

BABE RUTH WAS A GOOD FIELDER MANY THINK HE WASN'T BUT YOU READ BOOKS AND OTHER THINGS HE WAS A GOOD ALL AROUND PLAYER.

By all accounts, Ruth was a less than spectacular outfielder.  This is well known.  He didn't cover much ground.  He was actually not all that interested in playing the field.  If he played after 1973, he would have been a DH. READ A BOOK OR TWO HE WAS A GOOD OUTFIELDER IT A MYTH HE AS A BAD FIELDER BUT YOU HAVE NO REAL IDEA ON RUTH AT ALL. HE WAS A GOOD OUTFIELDER AND HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF. WAS HE THE BEST NO BUT HE WAS STILL GOOD.

I WATCH FOOTBALL A REAL MAN SPORT.

the lazy man's sport.  The american version, that is. LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

YOU HAVE REALLY NO CLUE WHAT PED'S NONE. WATCH THE MOVIE THE HULK AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT PED'S CAN DO IT NOT THAT BAD BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HULK OR INCRIDBLE HULK.

That's too funny!!!!   You just continue to cement your reputation around here!   Keep it up!!   LOLOLOL!!!!!! IT COMPARING PEOPLE ON PED'S TO WHEN THEY ARE NOT ON THEM IT LIKE THE INCRIDIBLE HULK FOR REAL THEY ARE FINE ONE MINUTE AND JUST BLOW UP. LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.



WELL THE PED'S THAT ATHELETS ARE GIVING ARE BANNED IN THE UNITED STATE THEY ARE YOU DON'T NEED ANY POST TO KNOW THIS LOL....

Yep.  I asked for links and as expected, you failed to provide.  How predictable. I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK UP THEY ARE PRODUCED IN ILLEGAL LABS UNDERGROUND LAPS IN OF SHORE MARKETS AND EVEN IN THE UNITED STATES,

I CAN SAY OPRAH IS WORTH NOTHING COMPARED TO BILL GATES

Excellent example.  You would still be wrong.

SPORTS RADIO HE EVEN SAID IT IS HARD TO EXPAND MLB IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE FUTURE IS IN OTHER COUNTRY'S

Nope.  He never said that.  Care to find a link to an article that quoted him?IT WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.  If true, it should be easy to find. IT WAS A VERBLE INTERVIEW LOL FOOL THEY HAD THE POD CAST BUT NO LONGER DO EVEN IF I GAVE IT TO YOU YOU WON'T HEAR IT.

THE NBA AND NHL IS GOING TO GO TOO ANOTHER COUNTRY SOONER OR LATER

No, they are not.  They have no plans to.YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE NBA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND IN JAPAN AN OTHER COUNTRIES I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT HE SAID IT A FEW TIMES, MR KNOW IT ALL. WATCH MORE TV WATCH MORE INTERVIEWS WHY DON'T YOU. YOU DON'T EVEN FN FOLLOW THE NBA FOR EVEN SAKES DUDE. TELL ME I BEEN FOLLOWING IT FOR YEARS.



BLUE JAY'S ARE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME IN CANADA.

The Jays are doing fine. NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

....WELL JAPAN HONOR AMERICAN BASEBALL THEY DO THEY BUY A LOT OF GEAR FROM THE UNITED STATES.

I repeat...  That doesn't mean they would spit on their own country's baseball league that has been there for more than 60 years.

LOL. GO TO MLB, YAHOO, ESPN, CNN AMONG OTHER SITE FOX REAL SITES.

I go to MLB.  Not Yahoo.  Occasionally ESPN.  Not CNN or FOX.  But all I got to are "real" sites.

HE IS HUGES IN JAPAN LOOK AT THE SHOE SELLS IN JAPAN LOOK IT UP DO SOME OF YOUR HOMEWORK HE SELLS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SHOES IN JAPAN.

I see..  Because people buy shoes it must be because they love American basketball players.  You logic is amazing. LOL WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS. JORDAN WAS A MONSTER IN JAPAN AND CHINA HE WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST STARS IN THE UNITED STATES. HE WAS HUGE IN JAPAN. PEOPLE IN JAPAN PAY FOR A RIPPED PAIR OF JORDANS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TELLS ME SOMETHING. UNLIKE UP PEOPLE DO LIKE BASKETBALL IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.

CHINA IT IS BIG. JAPAN IT IS BIG

Basketball was a small sport in China until that freak Ming made it to the states.  But they like Ming.  Not so much basketball.  Big difference.  In Japan, many still don't even know what basketball is. JORDAN WAS BIG IN JAPAN. THE USA TEAM IN 2008 WAS HUGE IN CHINA YOU DON'T KNOW THAT HUGE.

YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR A HATER OF BLACK SPORTS. YOU DON'T LIKE THE NFL BLACK SPORT OR NBA BLACK SPORT. NHL WHITE SPORT, MLB STILL A WHITE SPORT. SOCCER WHITE SPORT.

I had no idea you were so racist.  I would never classify a sport by a race.  Shame on you. I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME FOR SOME REASON YOU DON'T LIKE MOSTLY BLACK SPORTS I HAVE MORE BLACK PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY THEN I CAN COUNT.

12 MILLION VIEWERS WATCH THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN IN 2009 FACT CNN ISN'T GOING TO LIE YOUR A HATER THAT THE YANKEES CAN DO WELL IN JAPAN.

Sure would be nice if you could actually support that with something besides your unreliable self. WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

CNN NOT ON THE INTERNET CNN THEY HAVE SOME CHANNELS OVER IN JAPAN ALSO MANY MIGHT OF THEM MIGHT HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD SERIES IN JAPAN THEY WOULD KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO TAPE CNN FOR A ZOMBIE NOPE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LOL

Every story CNN does can be found on their website.  It shouldn't be that hard.  It wasn't that long ago.  Any more excuses? LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO. MIGHT EVEN BE AT YOUTUBE YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THAT. YOU CAN DO THAT WORK YOURSELF.


YOUR A LOSER YOUR A FAN OF A LOSER TEAM.

And yet this loser team just won the World Series with a payroll of less than HALF of your team.  Go figure.

YOUR A FAN OF SOCCER AN LOSER SPORT.

That "loser" sport is the most popular sport on this planet.IT IS A JOKE

YOUR A SWIMMER SO YOUR A PANSY ATHLETE.

And yet is has been reported that swimmers are often in the best shape of ALL athletes....LOL I DON'T THINK SO PEOPLE THAT PUT HOURS IN THE GYM LIKE I USE TO.



THEY CAN MAKE THERE OWN LEAGUE LOL

So, they would be like the Globetrotters playing the Generals every day....   LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

YANKEES ARE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE MLB BASEBALL.

Impossible.  The Yankees are part of MLB.  The entire worth of MLB would HAVE to be more than the Yankees alone.  A TON more WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

BASEBALL PROPERTY BECAUSE THE YANKEES ARE NOT JUST BASEBALL ANYMORE

They aren't?  Funny...  They still play in the American League and follow all the MLB rules....   Are the Yankees that are currently a part of MLB impostors? THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL AT ALL. NOT AT ALL DUDE.

YOU WANT TO SHARE EVERY WHAT ARE THE PIRATES AND GIANTS AN OTHER TEAM'S LIKE THAT GOING TO PUT IN THE TILL NOT AS MUCH AS THE YANKEE'S

Perhaps not.  But it is better for the whole.  It will help all.  Including the Yankees.  A rising tide lifts ALL boats. WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.


I WANT MY TEAM TO DO WELL I CARE ABOUT THAT AND ALL I NEED TO CARE ABOUT.

You are proving my point.  You would keep your finger in the hole in the dam while the rest of it collapses around you. NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE DUDE GET OVER IT BASEBALL FINE THEY ARE MAKING RECORD PROFITS TRUST MEAN BUD HAS SAID THAT ALSO YOU WANT A LINK WELL COME TO NEW YORK AND FOLLOW WHAT THEY HAVE ON TV BECAUSE YOUR AREA IS FORSURE LACKING IN BASEBALL NEWS AND INTERVIEWS BLAH BLAH BLAH. WATCH AND READ SOMETHING ONCE IN A WHILE

WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF THE TEAM'S THAT DON'T PRODUCE

Which would result in MLB becoming even LESS popular... Leading to LESS revenue.  Leading to even LESS productive teams.  It is a vicious cycle you are endorsing that could only result in the destruction of MLB.  Including the Yankees.PIRATES NEED TO GO.

BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THE GIANT'S CAN EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN LOL.

Maybe.  That would be because the NL West is more difficult to win. NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL THAT IS ALL. ITS LIKE A LOTTO WHO EVER GETS THE BALL GETS TOO THE PLAYOFFS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TALENT YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE. UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

LOOK IT UP DO WATCH ESPN, MLB NETWORK EVEN THE NEW MET MANAGERS SAID THE AL HAVE BETTER LINEUP YESTERDAY.

A couple of eastern biased idiots have made that claim on the air. NL MANAGER, NL MANAGER WHO MANAGED BOTH LEAGUES LOL HE WAS KNOW. But it is not the prevailing attitude among baseball experts. ONLY YOUR STUPID EXPERT THE ONE OR TWO THAT TAKE YOUR SIDE. MOST TAKE MY SIDE MOST KNOW THE AL IS FAR AND WAY MORE DIFFICULT THEN THE NL MOST HAVE SAID IT UNLESS YOU GET A DIFFERENT BROADCAST MOST KNOW.

What was the point of the links you provided?  They didn't support your point, and if you actually read them, they support MINE. NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE. THE YANKEES HAD THE BEST RATINGS IN FOUR YEARS DUDE. LET'S FACE IT THE YANKEES ARE BETTER TO WATCH THEN THE GIANT'S THE JUNK TEAM.

Why didn't you provide links for the stuff I actually asked you to provide links for?  Was it because they don't exist because you know what you claimed was crap? WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.
BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES.

That's right.  No one player can take credit for personally winning a World Series.

SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM.

No.  I didn't say individual players don't do their part in helping to win.  I said no one player can win a World Series.  You need to learn the word "comprehend".

DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

He can only take credit for his small part.  Just like Tim Lincecum cannot take credit for the Giants winning the World Series.  He only pitched in two games.  Renteria won the MVP.  But he too was not the sole reason for the win.  A lot of different players came through.

COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU.

He got a 2nd chance in the Series.  The time you have always said is "what matters most".  He he STILL lost.

HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

The Yanky rotation will be adequate at best.  You have no idea what good pitching is.  Take a look at the San Francisco Giants staff of 2010.  There is good pitching.

HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD.

BFD.  Matt Cain would have 30 wins if he had the kind of run support Hughes got.  You have no idea what good pitching is.

. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON

That is an idiotic statement.  The same thing can be said of almost ANY pitcher in the majors.  The problem is, AJ is rarely "on".

IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM

Only in your yanky infested dreams....

WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS

They were for 5 of them.  6 if you count the post season.
And no, the Yankees weren't.  If they were, they would have won.  But they were LOSERS!!!!

BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

That seems to be true for you ONLY if the team is called the New York Yankys.  Any other team does it, it's a "fluke" or "luck".

THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

Lee will not be an improvement.  But go ahead.  Overpay him.  Knock yourselves out.

YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.

And the funny thing is you probably don't even realize how ignorant to baseball you sound when you write drivel like that.

TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

Why try if you know the circumstances are against you going in?  We have been over this but you have refused to adhere to facts and reason.

TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP.

No, it's not.  And then, you don't understand that even if the Yankees did have a great farm system feeding them players, when those players become free agents, they can afford to keep them all.  The don't have to worry about the Yankys buying them away.  They ARE the Yankys.

CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

He was signed as an amateur free agent.  Meaning others could have signed him but the Yankys, and this is an old story, offered the most money.

ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

Of course.  When all the medical studies disagree with what you think were true, it's all BS.  Tell me, where did you get your PHD in pharmaceuticals?  And I never claimed steroids do nothing.  Again, you have a problem with understanding what you read.  Do you read as well as you write?  It certainly seems that way...

YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.

I could be an auto mechanic and I would still know the same.  One doesn't have to be an athlete to use the internet.

LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH.

I showed facts.  Truth is not the same as facts.  I'm not talking philosophy here.  Only the undeniable FACTS.
Truth can be subjective.  On can believe he is speaking the truth.  And also be completely wrong.  Interesting that you ran to the word "truth".  It shows that you know it isn't a fact, but a personal belief.

I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT.

I know you could.  But my links were not to certified crackpots.  They were to real live medical professionals doing studies at prestigious institutions.

LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

That is your argument?   "Just look at them"?  Yeah.  I should be on juries because I can spot the guilty just by looking!  lol!  If big muscles made you hit homers, the Arnold Swarzenegger and Franco Colombeau would be home run kings.

BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

No.  I am right.  You have ignored links I have provided before.  I see no reason you would change that now.  Instead of writing this, why not provide a link to it?  From some kind of certified of verifiable source?  If you did, I would be more inclined to buy into it.  But since it is coming from you, a known Yankee kool ade drinker, it is impossible to take seriously.

YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

Never heard of the loser.  He was never marketed like Jordan and Shaq and the other basketballers.

PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG

Pitcher doesn't start every game.  Jordan does.

THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

You say that now..  But you and I both know that if Bonds were in pinstripes you would be kissing his arse just like Jeter's and Ruth's.

MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

Not more important.  Just different.  Like the outfielder needs to play the angles right and get that ball back in the infield fast to keep the runner at 1st or have a strong enough and accurate enough arm to make the long throw to get the guy out.  How is that any less important?  Baseball is a TEAM game.

WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

You misheard it.  No professional would say something that idiotic.

CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

Sure, they are both baseball players.  There are certain similarities to the positions.  But I think Ichoro could adapt better to the quickness and range required of the SS and we already know he has a cannon for an arm.  Jeter would certainly be able to catch fly balls but his range would not be as good and we already know his arm is weak so his cut off guys would have to come out to cut the distance off.  He would never throw anyone out from the OF.

AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

I know that.  And he wasn't a very good one either.  It's part of why he was moved to DH.

DRINKING JUICE

Setting a good example to the children of America.  Juice is a good way to get your vitamins.

TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

Was the DH a good fielder too?  

YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM

Oh well, if Yanky people are saying it then it MUST be true!  ( he says in words dripping in sarcasm!)

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

A comment worthy of a spit take if ever there was one.

WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE

I get news from sources other than TV news outlets.  They all suck.  Besides, they aren't going to talk about it NOW.  A month AFTER the fact.  Why not just get me the link?  Everything on CNN can be found on their website.  If you are correct, it would be there and you would do it.  If you know you are wrong, you will continue to evade and never provide me with one.

GIVE ME A LINK

What do you want a link to?  I've dished them out before but you have ignored them.  So what are you looking for now?

SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

Unlike you, I don't spend 20 hours a day watching TV.  I actually have a life.

NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES.

No, it is the best time for them, too.  All they need to do is once every four years start training a few weeks earlier and they will be prepared.  That is what the Japanese and Koreans did.  The Americans and Caribbeans didn't and it cost them.

HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS

They are, but when players go to training camp, they are in similar condition regarding getting ready to play their games.  And no, the USA doesn't suck in hockey.  They are a world power in it.  We just won the world jrs last year, among other accomplishments.

READ A BOOK OR TWO

That is where the information came from, dude.  I have read three Ruth biographies.  All of the spoke about he was disinterested in playing the outfield.  He was mostly focused on hitting.  Off the field, he was focused on other things....

HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF.

He played right and left...  A little center early in his career...  And even less first.  Those were the only 4 non pitching positions he played.  You don't even know about your teams best player.  You are a terrible Yanky fan.

LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

Yeah.  I never played.  I would get killed on a hockey rink and schooled on a basketball court and swing and miss at everything at the plate too.  But the NFL is still the sport for the lazy fan.  It demands the least from those who watch it.  That's probably a big reason why it is so popular.

LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.

Never heard of him.  But I know he doesn't play baseball so it doesn't matter.  Ballooning up like bodybuilders is great.  But huge arms don't = home runs.  Only the fool thinks that.

I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK

Yes you do.  When you say something really stupid that would be really hard for someone to believe, it helps if you actually back it up with something somewhat official....

WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.

He repeats his crap over and over.  On the air, newspaper articles...  etc.  Those are easy to find.  Especially if is something he was REALLY trying to do.  He wouldn't say it and then clam up about it for years.  All the more reason to think you failed to understand what he really meant.  I think this likely as you fail to understand words right in front of you all the time on this site.

DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

I will wager you right now $10,000 there will NOT be an NBA team in Europe by 2013.  Care to take that wager?

NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

They are doing fine.  Most teams can't keep their best players.  That puts them in with 2/3 of the Majors.  Right now, now team is losing money and most are at least breaking even.  This is mainly do to the discovery of new income sources and the internet deal MLB agreed to over 10 years ago.  But you wouldn't know about that because you don't care about baseball.  Only the Yankys.

WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS.

No you don't.  I'm not a fan but I know who he is.

I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME

I don't care what race you are or aren't.  You sound like a racist when you speak like that.  Don't be a racist.  It's ignorant.

WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

Or, you could just provide the link when you say something unbelievable.  How about that?  The more you delay the more likely it is you are blowing hot air....

LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO.

How can I look up something I know ISN'T there?  You are the one who thinks it is.  You go look it up.  Get back to me when you find it.

IT IS A JOKE

Not to to the planet Earth.

I DON'T THINK SO

You don't "think" so.  Even your own comments reveal your own doubt.

LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

Yeah.  They'd be reduced to chasing other teams in the stands with buckets of confetti just to get by.

WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

Once again, would be nice if you could back all that up with something....

THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL

So, you are saying that a baseball business's income can mostly not have anything to do with baseball....   Did they start a car company or something?

WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

This is a very good question.
Then we will know the team sucks because the owners are skinflints and eventually would be forced to get out of the game.  But that is the worst case scenario.  There may be one owner like that.  Perhaps two tops.  The rest will all likely see this as a chance to do something positive with the team for once.  Remember, most owners get into the business out of either EGO (like Steinbrenner) or out of community pride.  (Like the Magowan led group.)  Most WANT to win and most are willing to do what it takes.  Imagine if they saw a light at the end of the tunnel for once....

NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE

You just said the Blue Jays are hurting, Mr Contradiction.  No team is hurting NOW.  They were in the early '90's.  And that situation will happen again if MLB cannot find new revenue streams.  But even if they do, the big picture problem still remains.  The same 8 teams contend every year, the same 8 teams lose every year.  And the middle teams pop in and out every so often.  This is not a good thing.

PIRATES NEED TO GO.

Get rid of one of the oldest and storied franchises in the game.  That is asinine.  Why not just bring in a cap with media revenue sharing instead?  Then no team needs to "go".

NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL

I wish it was.  If it was weak, the Giants would win it every year.

YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE.

That is actually a GOOD thing.  Fans like competition.  They don't like it when one team dominates all the time.

UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

Don't sit there and try and say the O's were good.  We all know they suck.  Don't say the Rays are a perennial winner when they have had only 2 good seasons in their entire LIVES.  The Jays suck these days and the Sox are on a downward spiral.  Only the Yankees with their money can hang in the top spots year in and year out.  It can be good at times, but normally it is not a very good division.

NL MANAGER,

No manager has ever said that.  He would get ripped if he did.

NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE.

Obviously you didn't read the articles.  They explained how short series' often have the lower numbers.  And a host of other reasons for the slightly lower ratings.  None of them said anything like the numbers being "horrible".  In fact, they spoke about how the ratings have been bad for over a decade now and this was no different than most other years.  You saw a headline, thought is said what you wished it said, and then foolishly presented it without reading it.  If you did, you would not have offered it up as it denies your points.

WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.

That is a lame excuse.  If what you say is true it would be in print, too.  And not hard to find. 

What's your next excuse?  Or are you just going to repeat everything again?
Babe Ruth  
#133 | 1429 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
hahahahaha youi are an Idiot yes the Yankees do go out and over pay for players who are trash, like you said you were a yankees fan back in the 80's you were what 5???? The yankees sucked, you are on the ban wagon could not even tell me yankees back from the 80 or early 90s. I grew up in NY not so farm town in upstate and even as a kid we new the players on the team. not only did I know the Mets but the other teams out there for wwe talked about baseball, played it. Still being a kid. The Philles being the only team really shows you how much you even no about the sport. The Heat does not need a big man to win the Lakers prove that. Kobe the best??????? I am not even going to get into it with you about that you think Kobe, not even Jordan thinks that.
Elmira is a little farm town, it does not matter what you play if you were born a fan you should know these things. I was not around for Babe Ruth but I know about him beacuse I grew up in a sport house. It is why I laugh at you when you talk about this stuff. A true fan of their sport knows. Again watch it on TV hahahahahaha it was in the papers kids talk about the parents talked about them again you would know simple as. Daivid Wright miss a bag are you serious A-rod made simple errors in the ALCS, guess what it happens all the time. Even in the pros they are human. Just to let you know when the Yankees started going on there run in the 90s they were mostly former METS.
Babe Ruth  
#134 | 1429 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
NO I am sorry when I brought up basketball it was to something I read in one of his post saying he only knew Magic, Jordan and Kobe. Hard to be a true Lakers fan and not know more of their players. Especially ones that played with Magic. Baseball is my main sport, but I do enjoy basketball.
Like I said you did not even know who played with the Bulls when they won, do not have to look them up if you really following them. Jordan had played well against the Knicks your point. He did it against all teams good for him, Did not kill the Knicks every time. If thats all you know about a sport should be quiet and listen to those that do. I would almost guess you are a Cowboys fan or the Partiots too, seems to jump on ban wagon with teams that play well.
Babe Ruth  
#135 | 1429 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
Like I said you did not even know who played with the Bulls when they won, do not have to look them up if you really following them. Jordan had played well against the Knicks your point. He did it against all teams good for him, Did not kill the Knicks every time. If thats all you know about a sport should be quiet and listen to those that do. I would almost guess you are a Cowboys fan or the Partiots too, seems to jump on ban wagon with teams that play well.
Dude you know nothing about Elmira NY nothing at all it not an effin A Farm Town its a City WITH ABOUT 40000 PEOPLE dude lol. Shows your a fool to think you know about something you don't. WHAT FARM TOWN DO YOU KNOW HAVE 40000 PEOPLE LIVING IN IT DUDE.

AS FOR THE BULLS THEY HAD MICHAEL JORDAN THE BEST PLAYER EVER IN THE GAME HAS NEAR 33 THOUSAND POINT. HE PLAYED A COUPLE YEARS WITH THE WIZARD WHO ALSO ONCE PART OWNED.

SORRY DUDE HE DID TORCH THE KNICK PLENTY OF TIMES LIKE IN THE PLAYOFFS COUNTLESS TIMES. LOL YOU WERE ONLY ABLE TO MAKE IT TOO THE FINALS AFTER HE WAS GONE. HE TORCH MOST OTHER TEAM'S ALSO FACE IT.  DUDE. ASK

SCOTTIE PIPPIN ON OF THE BEST DEFENDERS EVER IF NOT THE BEST DEFENDER IN THE GAME. AVERAGE NEAR 2O POINTS A GAME.

Toni Kukoc A GOOD PLAYER FOR THE BULLS REALLY GOOD PLAYER THE GUY WAS A GOOD SHOOTER

DENNIS RODMAN THE BEST AT GETTING THE BOARD'S WEIRD BUT ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS THAT PLAYED FOR THE BULL'S EVEN PHIL JACKSON SAID HE WAS ONE OF THE EASIEST PLAYERS TO COACH.

STEVE KERR WAS A GM HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST THREE POINT SHOOTERS. HE EVEN ONE THE THREE POINT CONTEST IN THE ALL STARS.HE EVEN HAD ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SHOTS IN THE NBA FINALS.NOW HE IS WITH TNT.

LOU LONGLEY THE BULLS SOLID BULLS BIG MAN

RON HARPER A GOOD SHOOTER SOLID PLAYER FOR THE BULLS IN THE MID 90'S

ROBERT PARISH PLAYED A LITTLE BIT WITH THE BULLS A HALL OF FAMER.

Charles Oakley ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED FOR THE BULLS

I CAN GO DOWN AND DOWN THE LIST.

JOHN PAXON SOLID PLAYER FOR THE BULLS ALSO AND UNTIL 2010 WAS WITH THE BULL'S ORG.



THAT JUST SOME OF THE PLAYERS THAT PLAYED FOR THE BULLS. I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT OTHER TEAM'S

IF YOU WANT ME TO TEACH YOU ABOUT THE BULLS SOME MORE I WILL LOL.

THE BULLS HAVE A SOLID TEAM RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GETTING BETTER. MR ROSE A GOOD PLAYER AMONG OTHER GOOD PLAYERS.


I KNOW ABOUT THE BULLS DUDE TRUST ME.  YOU NEED ANY MORE


DAVID WRIGHT IS A BI$CH YOU CAN PUT THAT ON IT HE SOFT DUDE A-ROD MADE AN ERROR BUT HE STILL ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE GAME UNLIKE DAVID WRIGHT HE A JOKE I HEAR HIM INTERVIEW HE EVEN SOUND LIKE A BI$CH
Babe Ruth  
#136 | 1429 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
Elmira is a little farm town, it does not matter what you play if you were born a fan you should know these things. I was not around for Babe Ruth but I know about him beacuse I grew up in a sport house. It is why I laugh at you when you talk about this stuff. A true fan of their sport knows. Again watch it on TV hahahahahaha it was in the papers kids talk about the parents talked about them again you would know simple as. Daivid Wright miss a bag are you serious A-rod made simple errors in the ALCS, guess what it happens all the time. Even in the pros they are human. Just to let you know when the Yankees started going on there run in the 90s they were mostly former METS.




I see big buildings offices blah blah blah I live in that city does that look like a farm town too you. I


This is Elmira NY does that look like a farm town too you
Babe Ruth  
#137 | 1429 days ago

ML31 wrote:
BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES.

That's right.  No one player can take credit for personally winning a World Series.

SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM.

No.  I didn't say individual players don't do their part in helping to win.  I said no one player can win a World Series.  You need to learn the word "comprehend".

DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

He can only take credit for his small part.  Just like Tim Lincecum cannot take credit for the Giants winning the World Series.  He only pitched in two games.  Renteria won the MVP.  But he too was not the sole reason for the win.  A lot of different players came through.

COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU.

He got a 2nd chance in the Series.  The time you have always said is "what matters most".  He he STILL lost.

HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

The Yanky rotation will be adequate at best.  You have no idea what good pitching is.  Take a look at the San Francisco Giants staff of 2010.  There is good pitching.

HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD.

BFD.  Matt Cain would have 30 wins if he had the kind of run support Hughes got.  You have no idea what good pitching is.

. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON

That is an idiotic statement.  The same thing can be said of almost ANY pitcher in the majors.  The problem is, AJ is rarely "on".

IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM

Only in your yanky infested dreams....

WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS

They were for 5 of them.  6 if you count the post season.
And no, the Yankees weren't.  If they were, they would have won.  But they were LOSERS!!!!

BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

That seems to be true for you ONLY if the team is called the New York Yankys.  Any other team does it, it's a "fluke" or "luck".

THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

Lee will not be an improvement.  But go ahead.  Overpay him.  Knock yourselves out.

YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.

And the funny thing is you probably don't even realize how ignorant to baseball you sound when you write drivel like that.

TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

Why try if you know the circumstances are against you going in?  We have been over this but you have refused to adhere to facts and reason.

TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP.

No, it's not.  And then, you don't understand that even if the Yankees did have a great farm system feeding them players, when those players become free agents, they can afford to keep them all.  The don't have to worry about the Yankys buying them away.  They ARE the Yankys.

CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

He was signed as an amateur free agent.  Meaning others could have signed him but the Yankys, and this is an old story, offered the most money.

ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

Of course.  When all the medical studies disagree with what you think were true, it's all BS.  Tell me, where did you get your PHD in pharmaceuticals?  And I never claimed steroids do nothing.  Again, you have a problem with understanding what you read.  Do you read as well as you write?  It certainly seems that way...

YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.

I could be an auto mechanic and I would still know the same.  One doesn't have to be an athlete to use the internet.

LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH.

I showed facts.  Truth is not the same as facts.  I'm not talking philosophy here.  Only the undeniable FACTS.
Truth can be subjective.  On can believe he is speaking the truth.  And also be completely wrong.  Interesting that you ran to the word "truth".  It shows that you know it isn't a fact, but a personal belief.

I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT.

I know you could.  But my links were not to certified crackpots.  They were to real live medical professionals doing studies at prestigious institutions.

LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

That is your argument?   "Just look at them"?  Yeah.  I should be on juries because I can spot the guilty just by looking!  lol!  If big muscles made you hit homers, the Arnold Swarzenegger and Franco Colombeau would be home run kings.

BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

No.  I am right.  You have ignored links I have provided before.  I see no reason you would change that now.  Instead of writing this, why not provide a link to it?  From some kind of certified of verifiable source?  If you did, I would be more inclined to buy into it.  But since it is coming from you, a known Yankee kool ade drinker, it is impossible to take seriously.

YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

Never heard of the loser.  He was never marketed like Jordan and Shaq and the other basketballers.

PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG

Pitcher doesn't start every game.  Jordan does.

THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

You say that now..  But you and I both know that if Bonds were in pinstripes you would be kissing his arse just like Jeter's and Ruth's.

MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

Not more important.  Just different.  Like the outfielder needs to play the angles right and get that ball back in the infield fast to keep the runner at 1st or have a strong enough and accurate enough arm to make the long throw to get the guy out.  How is that any less important?  Baseball is a TEAM game.

WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

You misheard it.  No professional would say something that idiotic.

CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

Sure, they are both baseball players.  There are certain similarities to the positions.  But I think Ichoro could adapt better to the quickness and range required of the SS and we already know he has a cannon for an arm.  Jeter would certainly be able to catch fly balls but his range would not be as good and we already know his arm is weak so his cut off guys would have to come out to cut the distance off.  He would never throw anyone out from the OF.

AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

I know that.  And he wasn't a very good one either.  It's part of why he was moved to DH.

DRINKING JUICE

Setting a good example to the children of America.  Juice is a good way to get your vitamins.

TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

Was the DH a good fielder too?  

YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM

Oh well, if Yanky people are saying it then it MUST be true!  ( he says in words dripping in sarcasm!)

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

A comment worthy of a spit take if ever there was one.

WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE

I get news from sources other than TV news outlets.  They all suck.  Besides, they aren't going to talk about it NOW.  A month AFTER the fact.  Why not just get me the link?  Everything on CNN can be found on their website.  If you are correct, it would be there and you would do it.  If you know you are wrong, you will continue to evade and never provide me with one.

GIVE ME A LINK

What do you want a link to?  I've dished them out before but you have ignored them.  So what are you looking for now?

SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

Unlike you, I don't spend 20 hours a day watching TV.  I actually have a life.

NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES.

No, it is the best time for them, too.  All they need to do is once every four years start training a few weeks earlier and they will be prepared.  That is what the Japanese and Koreans did.  The Americans and Caribbeans didn't and it cost them.

HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS

They are, but when players go to training camp, they are in similar condition regarding getting ready to play their games.  And no, the USA doesn't suck in hockey.  They are a world power in it.  We just won the world jrs last year, among other accomplishments.

READ A BOOK OR TWO

That is where the information came from, dude.  I have read three Ruth biographies.  All of the spoke about he was disinterested in playing the outfield.  He was mostly focused on hitting.  Off the field, he was focused on other things....

HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF.

He played right and left...  A little center early in his career...  And even less first.  Those were the only 4 non pitching positions he played.  You don't even know about your teams best player.  You are a terrible Yanky fan.

LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

Yeah.  I never played.  I would get killed on a hockey rink and schooled on a basketball court and swing and miss at everything at the plate too.  But the NFL is still the sport for the lazy fan.  It demands the least from those who watch it.  That's probably a big reason why it is so popular.

LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.

Never heard of him.  But I know he doesn't play baseball so it doesn't matter.  Ballooning up like bodybuilders is great.  But huge arms don't = home runs.  Only the fool thinks that.

I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK

Yes you do.  When you say something really stupid that would be really hard for someone to believe, it helps if you actually back it up with something somewhat official....

WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.

He repeats his crap over and over.  On the air, newspaper articles...  etc.  Those are easy to find.  Especially if is something he was REALLY trying to do.  He wouldn't say it and then clam up about it for years.  All the more reason to think you failed to understand what he really meant.  I think this likely as you fail to understand words right in front of you all the time on this site.

DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

I will wager you right now $10,000 there will NOT be an NBA team in Europe by 2013.  Care to take that wager?

NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

They are doing fine.  Most teams can't keep their best players.  That puts them in with 2/3 of the Majors.  Right now, now team is losing money and most are at least breaking even.  This is mainly do to the discovery of new income sources and the internet deal MLB agreed to over 10 years ago.  But you wouldn't know about that because you don't care about baseball.  Only the Yankys.

WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS.

No you don't.  I'm not a fan but I know who he is.

I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME

I don't care what race you are or aren't.  You sound like a racist when you speak like that.  Don't be a racist.  It's ignorant.

WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

Or, you could just provide the link when you say something unbelievable.  How about that?  The more you delay the more likely it is you are blowing hot air....

LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO.

How can I look up something I know ISN'T there?  You are the one who thinks it is.  You go look it up.  Get back to me when you find it.

IT IS A JOKE

Not to to the planet Earth.

I DON'T THINK SO

You don't "think" so.  Even your own comments reveal your own doubt.

LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

Yeah.  They'd be reduced to chasing other teams in the stands with buckets of confetti just to get by.

WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

Once again, would be nice if you could back all that up with something....

THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL

So, you are saying that a baseball business's income can mostly not have anything to do with baseball....   Did they start a car company or something?

WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

This is a very good question.
Then we will know the team sucks because the owners are skinflints and eventually would be forced to get out of the game.  But that is the worst case scenario.  There may be one owner like that.  Perhaps two tops.  The rest will all likely see this as a chance to do something positive with the team for once.  Remember, most owners get into the business out of either EGO (like Steinbrenner) or out of community pride.  (Like the Magowan led group.)  Most WANT to win and most are willing to do what it takes.  Imagine if they saw a light at the end of the tunnel for once....

NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE

You just said the Blue Jays are hurting, Mr Contradiction.  No team is hurting NOW.  They were in the early '90's.  And that situation will happen again if MLB cannot find new revenue streams.  But even if they do, the big picture problem still remains.  The same 8 teams contend every year, the same 8 teams lose every year.  And the middle teams pop in and out every so often.  This is not a good thing.

PIRATES NEED TO GO.

Get rid of one of the oldest and storied franchises in the game.  That is asinine.  Why not just bring in a cap with media revenue sharing instead?  Then no team needs to "go".

NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL

I wish it was.  If it was weak, the Giants would win it every year.

YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE.

That is actually a GOOD thing.  Fans like competition.  They don't like it when one team dominates all the time.

UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

Don't sit there and try and say the O's were good.  We all know they suck.  Don't say the Rays are a perennial winner when they have had only 2 good seasons in their entire LIVES.  The Jays suck these days and the Sox are on a downward spiral.  Only the Yankees with their money can hang in the top spots year in and year out.  It can be good at times, but normally it is not a very good division.

NL MANAGER,

No manager has ever said that.  He would get ripped if he did.

NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE.

Obviously you didn't read the articles.  They explained how short series' often have the lower numbers.  And a host of other reasons for the slightly lower ratings.  None of them said anything like the numbers being "horrible".  In fact, they spoke about how the ratings have been bad for over a decade now and this was no different than most other years.  You saw a headline, thought is said what you wished it said, and then foolishly presented it without reading it.  If you did, you would not have offered it up as it denies your points.

WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.

That is a lame excuse.  If what you say is true it would be in print, too.  And not hard to find. 

What's your next excuse?  Or are you just going to repeat everything again?
BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES.

That's right.  No one player can take credit for personally winning a World Series. A PLAYER CAN TAKE

SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM.

No.  I didn't say individual players don't do their part in helping to win.  I said no one player can win a World Series.  You need to learn the word "comprehend".

DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

He can only take credit for his small part.  Just like Tim Lincecum cannot take credit for the Giants winning the World Series.  He only pitched in two games.  Renteria won the MVP.  But he too was not the sole reason for the win.  A lot of different players came through.

COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU.

He got a 2nd chance in the Series.  The time you have always said is "what matters most".  He he STILL lost.

HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

The Yanky rotation will be adequate at best.  You have no idea what good pitching is.  Take a look at the San Francisco Giants staff of 2010.  There is good pitching.

HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD.

BFD.  Matt Cain would have 30 wins if he had the kind of run support Hughes got.  You have no idea what good pitching is.

. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON

That is an idiotic statement.  The same thing can be said of almost ANY pitcher in the majors.  The problem is, AJ is rarely "on".

IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM

Only in your yanky infested dreams....

WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS

They were for 5 of them.  6 if you count the post season.
And no, the Yankees weren't.  If they were, they would have won.  But they were LOSERS!!!!

BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

That seems to be true for you ONLY if the team is called the New York Yankys.  Any other team does it, it's a "fluke" or "luck".

THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

Lee will not be an improvement.  But go ahead.  Overpay him.  Knock yourselves out.

YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.

And the funny thing is you probably don't even realize how ignorant to baseball you sound when you write drivel like that.

TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

Why try if you know the circumstances are against you going in?  We have been over this but you have refused to adhere to facts and reason.

TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP.

No, it's not.  And then, you don't understand that even if the Yankees did have a great farm system feeding them players, when those players become free agents, they can afford to keep them all.  The don't have to worry about the Yankys buying them away.  They ARE the Yankys.

CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

He was signed as an amateur free agent.  Meaning others could have signed him but the Yankys, and this is an old story, offered the most money.

ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

Of course.  When all the medical studies disagree with what you think were true, it's all BS.  Tell me, where did you get your PHD in pharmaceuticals?  And I never claimed steroids do nothing.  Again, you have a problem with understanding what you read.  Do you read as well as you write?  It certainly seems that way...

YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.

I could be an auto mechanic and I would still know the same.  One doesn't have to be an athlete to use the internet.

LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH.

I showed facts.  Truth is not the same as facts.  I'm not talking philosophy here.  Only the undeniable FACTS.
Truth can be subjective.  On can believe he is speaking the truth.  And also be completely wrong.  Interesting that you ran to the word "truth".  It shows that you know it isn't a fact, but a personal belief.

I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT.

I know you could.  But my links were not to certified crackpots.  They were to real live medical professionals doing studies at prestigious institutions.

LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

That is your argument?   "Just look at them"?  Yeah.  I should be on juries because I can spot the guilty just by looking!  lol!  If big muscles made you hit homers, the Arnold Swarzenegger and Franco Colombeau would be home run kings.

BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

No.  I am right.  You have ignored links I have provided before.  I see no reason you would change that now.  Instead of writing this, why not provide a link to it?  From some kind of certified of verifiable source?  If you did, I would be more inclined to buy into it.  But since it is coming from you, a known Yankee kool ade drinker, it is impossible to take seriously.

YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

Never heard of the loser.  He was never marketed like Jordan and Shaq and the other basketballers.

PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG

Pitcher doesn't start every game.  Jordan does.

THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

You say that now..  But you and I both know that if Bonds were in pinstripes you would be kissing his arse just like Jeter's and Ruth's.

MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

Not more important.  Just different.  Like the outfielder needs to play the angles right and get that ball back in the infield fast to keep the runner at 1st or have a strong enough and accurate enough arm to make the long throw to get the guy out.  How is that any less important?  Baseball is a TEAM game.

WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

You misheard it.  No professional would say something that idiotic.

CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

Sure, they are both baseball players.  There are certain similarities to the positions.  But I think Ichoro could adapt better to the quickness and range required of the SS and we already know he has a cannon for an arm.  Jeter would certainly be able to catch fly balls but his range would not be as good and we already know his arm is weak so his cut off guys would have to come out to cut the distance off.  He would never throw anyone out from the OF.

AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

I know that.  And he wasn't a very good one either.  It's part of why he was moved to DH.

DRINKING JUICE

Setting a good example to the children of America.  Juice is a good way to get your vitamins.

TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

Was the DH a good fielder too? 

YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM

Oh well, if Yanky people are saying it then it MUST be true!  ( he says in words dripping in sarcasm!)

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

A comment worthy of a spit take if ever there was one.

WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE

I get news from sources other than TV news outlets.  They all suck.  Besides, they aren't going to talk about it NOW.  A month AFTER the fact.  Why not just get me the link?  Everything on CNN can be found on their website.  If you are correct, it would be there and you would do it.  If you know you are wrong, you will continue to evade and never provide me with one.

GIVE ME A LINK

What do you want a link to?  I've dished them out before but you have ignored them.  So what are you looking for now?

SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

Unlike you, I don't spend 20 hours a day watching TV.  I actually have a life.

NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES.

No, it is the best time for them, too.  All they need to do is once every four years start training a few weeks earlier and they will be prepared.  That is what the Japanese and Koreans did.  The Americans and Caribbeans didn't and it cost them.

HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS

They are, but when players go to training camp, they are in similar condition regarding getting ready to play their games.  And no, the USA doesn't suck in hockey.  They are a world power in it.  We just won the world jrs last year, among other accomplishments.

READ A BOOK OR TWO

That is where the information came from, dude.  I have read three Ruth biographies.  All of the spoke about he was disinterested in playing the outfield.  He was mostly focused on hitting.  Off the field, he was focused on other things....

HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF.

He played right and left...  A little center early in his career...  And even less first.  Those were the only 4 non pitching positions he played.  You don't even know about your teams best player.  You are a terrible Yanky fan.

LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

Yeah.  I never played.  I would get killed on a hockey rink and schooled on a basketball court and swing and miss at everything at the plate too.  But the NFL is still the sport for the lazy fan.  It demands the least from those who watch it.  That's probably a big reason why it is so popular.

LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.

Never heard of him.  But I know he doesn't play baseball so it doesn't matter.  Ballooning up like bodybuilders is great.  But huge arms don't = home runs.  Only the fool thinks that.

I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK

Yes you do.  When you say something really stupid that would be really hard for someone to believe, it helps if you actually back it up with something somewhat official....

WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.

He repeats his crap over and over.  On the air, newspaper articles...  etc.  Those are easy to find.  Especially if is something he was REALLY trying to do.  He wouldn't say it and then clam up about it for years.  All the more reason to think you failed to understand what he really meant.  I think this likely as you fail to understand words right in front of you all the time on this site.

DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

I will wager you right now $10,000 there will NOT be an NBA team in Europe by 2013.  Care to take that wager?

NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

They are doing fine.  Most teams can't keep their best players.  That puts them in with 2/3 of the Majors.  Right now, now team is losing money and most are at least breaking even.  This is mainly do to the discovery of new income sources and the internet deal MLB agreed to over 10 years ago.  But you wouldn't know about that because you don't care about baseball.  Only the Yankys.

WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS.

No you don't.  I'm not a fan but I know who he is.

I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME

I don't care what race you are or aren't.  You sound like a racist when you speak like that.  Don't be a racist.  It's ignorant.

WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

Or, you could just provide the link when you say something unbelievable.  How about that?  The more you delay the more likely it is you are blowing hot air....

LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO.

How can I look up something I know ISN'T there?  You are the one who thinks it is.  You go look it up.  Get back to me when you find it.

IT IS A JOKE

Not to to the planet Earth.

I DON'T THINK SO

You don't "think" so.  Even your own comments reveal your own doubt.

LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

Yeah.  They'd be reduced to chasing other teams in the stands with buckets of confetti just to get by.

WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

Once again, would be nice if you could back all that up with something....

THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL

So, you are saying that a baseball business's income can mostly not have anything to do with baseball....   Did they start a car company or something?

WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

This is a very good question.
Then we will know the team sucks because the owners are skinflints and eventually would be forced to get out of the game.  But that is the worst case scenario.  There may be one owner like that.  Perhaps two tops.  The rest will all likely see this as a chance to do something positive with the team for once.  Remember, most owners get into the business out of either EGO (like Steinbrenner) or out of community pride.  (Like the Magowan led group.)  Most WANT to win and most are willing to do what it takes.  Imagine if they saw a light at the end of the tunnel for once....

NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE

You just said the Blue Jays are hurting, Mr Contradiction.  No team is hurting NOW.  They were in the early '90's.  And that situation will happen again if MLB cannot find new revenue streams.  But even if they do, the big picture problem still remains.  The same 8 teams contend every year, the same 8 teams lose every year.  And the middle teams pop in and out every so often.  This is not a good thing.

PIRATES NEED TO GO.

Get rid of one of the oldest and storied franchises in the game.  That is asinine.  Why not just bring in a cap with media revenue sharing instead?  Then no team needs to "go".

NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL

I wish it was.  If it was weak, the Giants would win it every year.

YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE.

That is actually a GOOD thing.  Fans like competition.  They don't like it when one team dominates all the time.

UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

Don't sit there and try and say the O's were good.  We all know they suck.  Don't say the Rays are a perennial winner when they have had only 2 good seasons in their entire LIVES.  The Jays suck these days and the Sox are on a downward spiral.  Only the Yankees with their money can hang in the top spots year in and year out.  It can be good at times, but normally it is not a very good division.

NL MANAGER,

No manager has ever said that.  He would get ripped if he did.

NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE.

Obviously you didn't read the articles.  They explained how short series' often have the lower numbers.  And a host of other reasons for the slightly lower ratings.  None of them said anything like the numbers being "horrible".  In fact, they spoke about how the ratings have been bad for over a decade now and this was no different than most other years.  You saw a headline, thought is said what you wished it said, and then foolishly presented it without reading it.  If you did, you would not have offered it up as it denies your points.

WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.

That is a lame excuse.  If what you say is true it would be in print, too.  And not hard to find.

What's your next excuse?  Or are you just going to repeat everything again?
Babe Ruth  
#138 | 1429 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES.

That's right.  No one player can take credit for personally winning a World Series. A PLAYER CAN TAKE

SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM.

No.  I didn't say individual players don't do their part in helping to win.  I said no one player can win a World Series.  You need to learn the word "comprehend".

DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

He can only take credit for his small part.  Just like Tim Lincecum cannot take credit for the Giants winning the World Series.  He only pitched in two games.  Renteria won the MVP.  But he too was not the sole reason for the win.  A lot of different players came through.

COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU.

He got a 2nd chance in the Series.  The time you have always said is "what matters most".  He he STILL lost.

HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

The Yanky rotation will be adequate at best.  You have no idea what good pitching is.  Take a look at the San Francisco Giants staff of 2010.  There is good pitching.

HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD.

BFD.  Matt Cain would have 30 wins if he had the kind of run support Hughes got.  You have no idea what good pitching is.

. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON

That is an idiotic statement.  The same thing can be said of almost ANY pitcher in the majors.  The problem is, AJ is rarely "on".

IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM

Only in your yanky infested dreams....

WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS

They were for 5 of them.  6 if you count the post season.
And no, the Yankees weren't.  If they were, they would have won.  But they were LOSERS!!!!

BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

That seems to be true for you ONLY if the team is called the New York Yankys.  Any other team does it, it's a "fluke" or "luck".

THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

Lee will not be an improvement.  But go ahead.  Overpay him.  Knock yourselves out.

YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.

And the funny thing is you probably don't even realize how ignorant to baseball you sound when you write drivel like that.

TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

Why try if you know the circumstances are against you going in?  We have been over this but you have refused to adhere to facts and reason.

TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP.

No, it's not.  And then, you don't understand that even if the Yankees did have a great farm system feeding them players, when those players become free agents, they can afford to keep them all.  The don't have to worry about the Yankys buying them away.  They ARE the Yankys.

CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

He was signed as an amateur free agent.  Meaning others could have signed him but the Yankys, and this is an old story, offered the most money.

ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

Of course.  When all the medical studies disagree with what you think were true, it's all BS.  Tell me, where did you get your PHD in pharmaceuticals?  And I never claimed steroids do nothing.  Again, you have a problem with understanding what you read.  Do you read as well as you write?  It certainly seems that way...

YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.

I could be an auto mechanic and I would still know the same.  One doesn't have to be an athlete to use the internet.

LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH.

I showed facts.  Truth is not the same as facts.  I'm not talking philosophy here.  Only the undeniable FACTS.
Truth can be subjective.  On can believe he is speaking the truth.  And also be completely wrong.  Interesting that you ran to the word "truth".  It shows that you know it isn't a fact, but a personal belief.

I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT.

I know you could.  But my links were not to certified crackpots.  They were to real live medical professionals doing studies at prestigious institutions.

LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

That is your argument?   "Just look at them"?  Yeah.  I should be on juries because I can spot the guilty just by looking!  lol!  If big muscles made you hit homers, the Arnold Swarzenegger and Franco Colombeau would be home run kings.

BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

No.  I am right.  You have ignored links I have provided before.  I see no reason you would change that now.  Instead of writing this, why not provide a link to it?  From some kind of certified of verifiable source?  If you did, I would be more inclined to buy into it.  But since it is coming from you, a known Yankee kool ade drinker, it is impossible to take seriously.

YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

Never heard of the loser.  He was never marketed like Jordan and Shaq and the other basketballers.

PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG

Pitcher doesn't start every game.  Jordan does.

THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

You say that now..  But you and I both know that if Bonds were in pinstripes you would be kissing his arse just like Jeter's and Ruth's.

MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

Not more important.  Just different.  Like the outfielder needs to play the angles right and get that ball back in the infield fast to keep the runner at 1st or have a strong enough and accurate enough arm to make the long throw to get the guy out.  How is that any less important?  Baseball is a TEAM game.

WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

You misheard it.  No professional would say something that idiotic.

CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

Sure, they are both baseball players.  There are certain similarities to the positions.  But I think Ichoro could adapt better to the quickness and range required of the SS and we already know he has a cannon for an arm.  Jeter would certainly be able to catch fly balls but his range would not be as good and we already know his arm is weak so his cut off guys would have to come out to cut the distance off.  He would never throw anyone out from the OF.

AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

I know that.  And he wasn't a very good one either.  It's part of why he was moved to DH.

DRINKING JUICE

Setting a good example to the children of America.  Juice is a good way to get your vitamins.

TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

Was the DH a good fielder too? 

YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM

Oh well, if Yanky people are saying it then it MUST be true!  ( he says in words dripping in sarcasm!)

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

A comment worthy of a spit take if ever there was one.

WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE

I get news from sources other than TV news outlets.  They all suck.  Besides, they aren't going to talk about it NOW.  A month AFTER the fact.  Why not just get me the link?  Everything on CNN can be found on their website.  If you are correct, it would be there and you would do it.  If you know you are wrong, you will continue to evade and never provide me with one.

GIVE ME A LINK

What do you want a link to?  I've dished them out before but you have ignored them.  So what are you looking for now?

SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

Unlike you, I don't spend 20 hours a day watching TV.  I actually have a life.

NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES.

No, it is the best time for them, too.  All they need to do is once every four years start training a few weeks earlier and they will be prepared.  That is what the Japanese and Koreans did.  The Americans and Caribbeans didn't and it cost them.

HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS

They are, but when players go to training camp, they are in similar condition regarding getting ready to play their games.  And no, the USA doesn't suck in hockey.  They are a world power in it.  We just won the world jrs last year, among other accomplishments.

READ A BOOK OR TWO

That is where the information came from, dude.  I have read three Ruth biographies.  All of the spoke about he was disinterested in playing the outfield.  He was mostly focused on hitting.  Off the field, he was focused on other things....

HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF.

He played right and left...  A little center early in his career...  And even less first.  Those were the only 4 non pitching positions he played.  You don't even know about your teams best player.  You are a terrible Yanky fan.

LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

Yeah.  I never played.  I would get killed on a hockey rink and schooled on a basketball court and swing and miss at everything at the plate too.  But the NFL is still the sport for the lazy fan.  It demands the least from those who watch it.  That's probably a big reason why it is so popular.

LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.

Never heard of him.  But I know he doesn't play baseball so it doesn't matter.  Ballooning up like bodybuilders is great.  But huge arms don't = home runs.  Only the fool thinks that.

I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK

Yes you do.  When you say something really stupid that would be really hard for someone to believe, it helps if you actually back it up with something somewhat official....

WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.

He repeats his crap over and over.  On the air, newspaper articles...  etc.  Those are easy to find.  Especially if is something he was REALLY trying to do.  He wouldn't say it and then clam up about it for years.  All the more reason to think you failed to understand what he really meant.  I think this likely as you fail to understand words right in front of you all the time on this site.

DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

I will wager you right now $10,000 there will NOT be an NBA team in Europe by 2013.  Care to take that wager?

NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

They are doing fine.  Most teams can't keep their best players.  That puts them in with 2/3 of the Majors.  Right now, now team is losing money and most are at least breaking even.  This is mainly do to the discovery of new income sources and the internet deal MLB agreed to over 10 years ago.  But you wouldn't know about that because you don't care about baseball.  Only the Yankys.

WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS.

No you don't.  I'm not a fan but I know who he is.

I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME

I don't care what race you are or aren't.  You sound like a racist when you speak like that.  Don't be a racist.  It's ignorant.

WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

Or, you could just provide the link when you say something unbelievable.  How about that?  The more you delay the more likely it is you are blowing hot air....

LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO.

How can I look up something I know ISN'T there?  You are the one who thinks it is.  You go look it up.  Get back to me when you find it.

IT IS A JOKE

Not to to the planet Earth.

I DON'T THINK SO

You don't "think" so.  Even your own comments reveal your own doubt.

LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

Yeah.  They'd be reduced to chasing other teams in the stands with buckets of confetti just to get by.

WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

Once again, would be nice if you could back all that up with something....

THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL

So, you are saying that a baseball business's income can mostly not have anything to do with baseball....   Did they start a car company or something?

WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

This is a very good question.
Then we will know the team sucks because the owners are skinflints and eventually would be forced to get out of the game.  But that is the worst case scenario.  There may be one owner like that.  Perhaps two tops.  The rest will all likely see this as a chance to do something positive with the team for once.  Remember, most owners get into the business out of either EGO (like Steinbrenner) or out of community pride.  (Like the Magowan led group.)  Most WANT to win and most are willing to do what it takes.  Imagine if they saw a light at the end of the tunnel for once....

NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE

You just said the Blue Jays are hurting, Mr Contradiction.  No team is hurting NOW.  They were in the early '90's.  And that situation will happen again if MLB cannot find new revenue streams.  But even if they do, the big picture problem still remains.  The same 8 teams contend every year, the same 8 teams lose every year.  And the middle teams pop in and out every so often.  This is not a good thing.

PIRATES NEED TO GO.

Get rid of one of the oldest and storied franchises in the game.  That is asinine.  Why not just bring in a cap with media revenue sharing instead?  Then no team needs to "go".

NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL

I wish it was.  If it was weak, the Giants would win it every year.

YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE.

That is actually a GOOD thing.  Fans like competition.  They don't like it when one team dominates all the time.

UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

Don't sit there and try and say the O's were good.  We all know they suck.  Don't say the Rays are a perennial winner when they have had only 2 good seasons in their entire LIVES.  The Jays suck these days and the Sox are on a downward spiral.  Only the Yankees with their money can hang in the top spots year in and year out.  It can be good at times, but normally it is not a very good division.

NL MANAGER,

No manager has ever said that.  He would get ripped if he did.

NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE.

Obviously you didn't read the articles.  They explained how short series' often have the lower numbers.  And a host of other reasons for the slightly lower ratings.  None of them said anything like the numbers being "horrible".  In fact, they spoke about how the ratings have been bad for over a decade now and this was no different than most other years.  You saw a headline, thought is said what you wished it said, and then foolishly presented it without reading it.  If you did, you would not have offered it up as it denies your points.

WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.

That is a lame excuse.  If what you say is true it would be in print, too.  And not hard to find.

What's your next excuse?  Or are you just going to repeat everything again?
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Babe Ruth  
#139 | 1429 days ago

ML31 wrote:
BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES.

That's right.  No one player can take credit for personally winning a World Series.

SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM.

No.  I didn't say individual players don't do their part in helping to win.  I said no one player can win a World Series.  You need to learn the word "comprehend".

DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

He can only take credit for his small part.  Just like Tim Lincecum cannot take credit for the Giants winning the World Series.  He only pitched in two games.  Renteria won the MVP.  But he too was not the sole reason for the win.  A lot of different players came through.

COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU.

He got a 2nd chance in the Series.  The time you have always said is "what matters most".  He he STILL lost.

HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

The Yanky rotation will be adequate at best.  You have no idea what good pitching is.  Take a look at the San Francisco Giants staff of 2010.  There is good pitching.

HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD.

BFD.  Matt Cain would have 30 wins if he had the kind of run support Hughes got.  You have no idea what good pitching is.

. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON

That is an idiotic statement.  The same thing can be said of almost ANY pitcher in the majors.  The problem is, AJ is rarely "on".

IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM

Only in your yanky infested dreams....

WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS

They were for 5 of them.  6 if you count the post season.
And no, the Yankees weren't.  If they were, they would have won.  But they were LOSERS!!!!

BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

That seems to be true for you ONLY if the team is called the New York Yankys.  Any other team does it, it's a "fluke" or "luck".

THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

Lee will not be an improvement.  But go ahead.  Overpay him.  Knock yourselves out.

YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.

And the funny thing is you probably don't even realize how ignorant to baseball you sound when you write drivel like that.

TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

Why try if you know the circumstances are against you going in?  We have been over this but you have refused to adhere to facts and reason.

TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP.

No, it's not.  And then, you don't understand that even if the Yankees did have a great farm system feeding them players, when those players become free agents, they can afford to keep them all.  The don't have to worry about the Yankys buying them away.  They ARE the Yankys.

CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

He was signed as an amateur free agent.  Meaning others could have signed him but the Yankys, and this is an old story, offered the most money.

ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

Of course.  When all the medical studies disagree with what you think were true, it's all BS.  Tell me, where did you get your PHD in pharmaceuticals?  And I never claimed steroids do nothing.  Again, you have a problem with understanding what you read.  Do you read as well as you write?  It certainly seems that way...

YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.

I could be an auto mechanic and I would still know the same.  One doesn't have to be an athlete to use the internet.

LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH.

I showed facts.  Truth is not the same as facts.  I'm not talking philosophy here.  Only the undeniable FACTS.
Truth can be subjective.  On can believe he is speaking the truth.  And also be completely wrong.  Interesting that you ran to the word "truth".  It shows that you know it isn't a fact, but a personal belief.

I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT.

I know you could.  But my links were not to certified crackpots.  They were to real live medical professionals doing studies at prestigious institutions.

LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

That is your argument?   "Just look at them"?  Yeah.  I should be on juries because I can spot the guilty just by looking!  lol!  If big muscles made you hit homers, the Arnold Swarzenegger and Franco Colombeau would be home run kings.

BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

No.  I am right.  You have ignored links I have provided before.  I see no reason you would change that now.  Instead of writing this, why not provide a link to it?  From some kind of certified of verifiable source?  If you did, I would be more inclined to buy into it.  But since it is coming from you, a known Yankee kool ade drinker, it is impossible to take seriously.

YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

Never heard of the loser.  He was never marketed like Jordan and Shaq and the other basketballers.

PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG

Pitcher doesn't start every game.  Jordan does.

THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

You say that now..  But you and I both know that if Bonds were in pinstripes you would be kissing his arse just like Jeter's and Ruth's.

MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

Not more important.  Just different.  Like the outfielder needs to play the angles right and get that ball back in the infield fast to keep the runner at 1st or have a strong enough and accurate enough arm to make the long throw to get the guy out.  How is that any less important?  Baseball is a TEAM game.

WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

You misheard it.  No professional would say something that idiotic.

CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

Sure, they are both baseball players.  There are certain similarities to the positions.  But I think Ichoro could adapt better to the quickness and range required of the SS and we already know he has a cannon for an arm.  Jeter would certainly be able to catch fly balls but his range would not be as good and we already know his arm is weak so his cut off guys would have to come out to cut the distance off.  He would never throw anyone out from the OF.

AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

I know that.  And he wasn't a very good one either.  It's part of why he was moved to DH.

DRINKING JUICE

Setting a good example to the children of America.  Juice is a good way to get your vitamins.

TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

Was the DH a good fielder too?  

YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM

Oh well, if Yanky people are saying it then it MUST be true!  ( he says in words dripping in sarcasm!)

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

A comment worthy of a spit take if ever there was one.

WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE

I get news from sources other than TV news outlets.  They all suck.  Besides, they aren't going to talk about it NOW.  A month AFTER the fact.  Why not just get me the link?  Everything on CNN can be found on their website.  If you are correct, it would be there and you would do it.  If you know you are wrong, you will continue to evade and never provide me with one.

GIVE ME A LINK

What do you want a link to?  I've dished them out before but you have ignored them.  So what are you looking for now?

SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

Unlike you, I don't spend 20 hours a day watching TV.  I actually have a life.

NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES.

No, it is the best time for them, too.  All they need to do is once every four years start training a few weeks earlier and they will be prepared.  That is what the Japanese and Koreans did.  The Americans and Caribbeans didn't and it cost them.

HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS

They are, but when players go to training camp, they are in similar condition regarding getting ready to play their games.  And no, the USA doesn't suck in hockey.  They are a world power in it.  We just won the world jrs last year, among other accomplishments.

READ A BOOK OR TWO

That is where the information came from, dude.  I have read three Ruth biographies.  All of the spoke about he was disinterested in playing the outfield.  He was mostly focused on hitting.  Off the field, he was focused on other things....

HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF.

He played right and left...  A little center early in his career...  And even less first.  Those were the only 4 non pitching positions he played.  You don't even know about your teams best player.  You are a terrible Yanky fan.

LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

Yeah.  I never played.  I would get killed on a hockey rink and schooled on a basketball court and swing and miss at everything at the plate too.  But the NFL is still the sport for the lazy fan.  It demands the least from those who watch it.  That's probably a big reason why it is so popular.

LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.

Never heard of him.  But I know he doesn't play baseball so it doesn't matter.  Ballooning up like bodybuilders is great.  But huge arms don't = home runs.  Only the fool thinks that.

I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK

Yes you do.  When you say something really stupid that would be really hard for someone to believe, it helps if you actually back it up with something somewhat official....

WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.

He repeats his crap over and over.  On the air, newspaper articles...  etc.  Those are easy to find.  Especially if is something he was REALLY trying to do.  He wouldn't say it and then clam up about it for years.  All the more reason to think you failed to understand what he really meant.  I think this likely as you fail to understand words right in front of you all the time on this site.

DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

I will wager you right now $10,000 there will NOT be an NBA team in Europe by 2013.  Care to take that wager?

NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

They are doing fine.  Most teams can't keep their best players.  That puts them in with 2/3 of the Majors.  Right now, now team is losing money and most are at least breaking even.  This is mainly do to the discovery of new income sources and the internet deal MLB agreed to over 10 years ago.  But you wouldn't know about that because you don't care about baseball.  Only the Yankys.

WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS.

No you don't.  I'm not a fan but I know who he is.

I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME

I don't care what race you are or aren't.  You sound like a racist when you speak like that.  Don't be a racist.  It's ignorant.

WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

Or, you could just provide the link when you say something unbelievable.  How about that?  The more you delay the more likely it is you are blowing hot air....

LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO.

How can I look up something I know ISN'T there?  You are the one who thinks it is.  You go look it up.  Get back to me when you find it.

IT IS A JOKE

Not to to the planet Earth.

I DON'T THINK SO

You don't "think" so.  Even your own comments reveal your own doubt.

LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

Yeah.  They'd be reduced to chasing other teams in the stands with buckets of confetti just to get by.

WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

Once again, would be nice if you could back all that up with something....

THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL

So, you are saying that a baseball business's income can mostly not have anything to do with baseball....   Did they start a car company or something?

WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

This is a very good question.
Then we will know the team sucks because the owners are skinflints and eventually would be forced to get out of the game.  But that is the worst case scenario.  There may be one owner like that.  Perhaps two tops.  The rest will all likely see this as a chance to do something positive with the team for once.  Remember, most owners get into the business out of either EGO (like Steinbrenner) or out of community pride.  (Like the Magowan led group.)  Most WANT to win and most are willing to do what it takes.  Imagine if they saw a light at the end of the tunnel for once....

NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE

You just said the Blue Jays are hurting, Mr Contradiction.  No team is hurting NOW.  They were in the early '90's.  And that situation will happen again if MLB cannot find new revenue streams.  But even if they do, the big picture problem still remains.  The same 8 teams contend every year, the same 8 teams lose every year.  And the middle teams pop in and out every so often.  This is not a good thing.

PIRATES NEED TO GO.

Get rid of one of the oldest and storied franchises in the game.  That is asinine.  Why not just bring in a cap with media revenue sharing instead?  Then no team needs to "go".

NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL

I wish it was.  If it was weak, the Giants would win it every year.

YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE.

That is actually a GOOD thing.  Fans like competition.  They don't like it when one team dominates all the time.

UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

Don't sit there and try and say the O's were good.  We all know they suck.  Don't say the Rays are a perennial winner when they have had only 2 good seasons in their entire LIVES.  The Jays suck these days and the Sox are on a downward spiral.  Only the Yankees with their money can hang in the top spots year in and year out.  It can be good at times, but normally it is not a very good division.

NL MANAGER,

No manager has ever said that.  He would get ripped if he did.

NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE.

Obviously you didn't read the articles.  They explained how short series' often have the lower numbers.  And a host of other reasons for the slightly lower ratings.  None of them said anything like the numbers being "horrible".  In fact, they spoke about how the ratings have been bad for over a decade now and this was no different than most other years.  You saw a headline, thought is said what you wished it said, and then foolishly presented it without reading it.  If you did, you would not have offered it up as it denies your points.

WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.

That is a lame excuse.  If what you say is true it would be in print, too.  And not hard to find. 

What's your next excuse?  Or are you just going to repeat everything again?
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#140 | 1429 days ago

jaysinw wrote:
Like I said you did not even know who played with the Bulls when they won, do not have to look them up if you really following them. Jordan had played well against the Knicks your point. He did it against all teams good for him, Did not kill the Knicks every time. If thats all you know about a sport should be quiet and listen to those that do. I would almost guess you are a Cowboys fan or the Partiots too, seems to jump on ban wagon with teams that play well.
Pippen was a bitch, yes he could defend not even close ot being the best at it. Jordan the greastest ever, can go on with that debate forever. Basketball never change its rules, the way the game is played because of him. He was the most exposive but thats it. I would havew to say a player who has won a championship player different positions, and not just saying I am the starting Guard or Starting Center but play them. Beat the oposing teams starter at that position, have to give the edge there. Jordan not only never did it could not do it. Knicks could only make it when he left, okay little one the Bulls did not stop the Knicks from making it to the fianls every year. Oh yeah the Bulls did not dominate the Knicks if you really watch the games you wold hav eknow that. Only in the first and fourth Championship did the Bulls do that. The other series could have gone either way. HAHAHAHAHAH Elmia is a farm town 40,000 people yes that is a small little town. Yes I have been there and yes it looks like a farm town. Wright you said sounds like a bitch lol A-rod one of the best. Didn't you say Bonds was a cheater for taking ROIDS, A-rod admitted to doing it to. How cold he be one of the best if he is a cheater. You took them and they made you better at what every it is that you did. hahahahahaha Man you are sad, with all this really know your teams and sports.
Babe Ruth  
#141 | 1429 days ago

Pippen was a bitch, yes he could defend not even close ot being the best at it. You compare his overall defensive number they are better then even Bill Russel in many area really the overall body of work is really close take a look at the numbers.You say I don't do my home work on my team trust me.Jordan the greastest ever, can go on with that debate forever. Basketball never change its rules, the way the game is played because of him. I think it was harder to play back then plus I think back then the players were far and away better then what players are playing today. He was the most exposive but thats it.I say your wrong what he done with the sport of basketball he was more then just an basketball player he was an NBA brand in him self and he was near flawless as a player he was the best all around player ever.I would havew to say a player who has won a championship player different positions, and not just saying I am the starting Guard or Starting Center but play them. HE WAS 6'6 HE CAN'T BE A CENTER AND HE HELL HAD MORE SHOOTING RANGE. Beat the oposing teams starter at that position, have to give the edge there. HE WAS PLACED AT THE BEST POSTION HE COULD PLAY AT. BULL HAD THE CENTER TO MATCH WITH THE OTHER CENTER. Jordan not only never did it could not do it. HE DIDN'T HAVE TO. PLUS HE WAS GOOD GOOD IT DIDN'T MATTER I SEEN HIM DUNK ON 7 FOOTERS A FEW TIMES. Knicks could only make it when he left, okay little one the Bulls did not stop the Knicks from making it to the fianls every year TALENT DID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH BALLS.  THE KNICK FINAL MADE IT TOO THE FINALS IN THE SHORT YEAR AFTER JORDAN RETIRED STRAIGHT UP. Oh yeah the Bulls did not dominate the Knicks if you really watch the games you wold hav eknow that I WATCH THE GAMES THEY WERE FIGHTS BUT IN THE END IT WAS USALLY THE BULLS ON TOP. BACK THE THAT WHEN BASKETBALL WAS BASKETBALL I THINK TODAYS BALL IS SOFT AS HELL. BUT IT BEEN OVER A DECADE SINCE NEW YORK HAD A GOOD NEW YORK TEAM. CARMELLO WILL BE A KNICK SOONER OR LATER. I REALLY DON'T LIKE TO WATCH BASKETBALL TODAY. Only in the first and fourth Championship did the Bulls do that. The other series could have gone either way NOT REALLY BULLS HAD THE THE ULTIMATE WEAPON STRAIGHT UP KNICK WERE NOT GETTING PAST THAT TEAM. THEY BE BETTER TEAM'S THEN THE KNICKS FOR HEAVEN SAKES. HAHAHAHAHAH Elmia is a farm town 40,000 people yes that is a small little town NO IT IS NOT A FARM TOWN IT MORE THEN A PRISON TOWN THEN ANYTHING. THERE IS NOT ONE FARM IN ELMIRA YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT. WHAT YOU CAN BREATH EASY YOU SEE A LOT OF TREES. LOL Yes I have been there and yes it looks like a farm town IT IS NOT A FARM TWO IT IS A CITY NOT A TOWN LOL. Wright you said sounds like a bitch lol A-rod one of the best. HE IS STILL ONE OF THE BEST TALENT STERIODS OR NOT EVEN BOND'S WAS I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT A-ROD DID BUT HE IS FAR AND AWAY THEN THAT BI$CH TINKERBELL DAVID WRIGHT STRAIGHT UP. Didn't you say Bonds was a cheater for taking ROIDS, A-rod admitted to doing it to. BOTH DONE WRONG BUT BOTH ARE GOOD TALENTS ANYWAYS. How cold he be one of the best if he is a cheater. BABE RUTH IS THE BEST THAT ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. WHO THE BEST MET KNOW ONE KNOWS AND KNOW ONE CARES. You took them and they made you better at what every it is that you did IT WAS STUPID TO DO BUT I DID GET BETTER, BUT I GOT MEANER AND I WENT TO JAIL A FEW TIME FOR VIOLENCE. hahahahahaha Man you are sad,YOUR SAD TO THINK YOUR KNICKS AND METS ARE BETTER THEN WHAT THEY ARE. I SEEN SOME SHORT STOP ON THE MARKET IN NEW YORK. WELL ONCE ISN'T SIGNED YET SO YOU CAN GUESS WHO THAT IS. RAYES FARTS AND GETS HURT.  with all this really know your teams and sports. I WENT DOWN THE ENTIRE LINE WITH THE METS YOU SEE THAT THE METS ARE A LAUGH LOL THEY ARE JUNK. YOU KNOW WHAT IN COMMON WITH THE METS AND KNICK SOMETHING THAT WON'T CHANGE THE OWNERS NEED TO GO LOL. THE KNICK OWNER STILL WANTS THE WORST GM EVER ISIAH THOMAS JOKE. I THINK THE MET FORMER GM WAS PRETTY GOOD BUT I THINK HE WAS LIMIT BUY THE BRAIN TRUST AT WHAT HE CAN DO.



I KNOW MY TEAM'S AND MY SPORTS LOL I FOLLOW EVERYTHING. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING YOU THINK MY CITY IS A FARM CITY LOL FOR HEAVEN SAKES LOL YOU BEEN HERE NO YOU HAVE NOT. I GAVE YOU A LITTLE RUN DOWN ABOUT THE BULLS.


RUN DOWN OF YOUR MET'S

ALL YOUR MET PLAYERS ARE TRASH THAT'S ABOUT IT
YOU HAVE K-ROD BEAT UP OLD PEOPLE AND WALK THE BEST CLOSER IN THE GAME WITH THE BASES LOADED WHY.
YOU HAVE OLLY NO NEED TO GET INTO HIM WASTE MY TIME
JOHAN SANTANA WHO DOESN'T EVEN COMPLETE A SEASON HE ALWAY'S HURT.
PELFRY WHO SOMETIMES GOOD BUT MOSTLY BAD CAN'T FIGURE WHO HE IS

YOU HAVE DAVID WRIGHT WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO TAG THIRD BASE SOMETHING YOU LEARN IN GRADE SCHOOL WHO A CREAM PUFF. HE SOFT AND WEAK
YOU HAVE  CASTILLO WHO CAN'T CATCH THE EASIEST FLY BALL IN THE WORLD TO CATCH.
YOU HAVE RAYES WHO GET'S HURT FARTING
YOU HAVE PEGAN WHO FLOPS IN THE OUTFIELD LIKE A FISH TRYING TO CATCH A BALL
YOU HAVE JASON BAY HE GETS A BOO BOO ON HIS LITTLE HEAD AND MISSES THE REST OF THE SEASON RUNNING INTO THE WALL.  WHO ONLY HITS 9 HOMERUN'S

DO THE SAME I DID WITH THE YANKEES. THE YANKEES ARE FAR AND AWAY MORE IMPRESSIVE. IF THE YANKEES ARE TRASH. THAT MEAN'S THE METS ARE NUCLEAR WASTE THEY JUST EXPLODE. I HAVE A LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM AND I TELL THEM TO WATCH THE MET'S TO LEARN WHAT NOT TO DO. WHAT I SAID IS JUST ABOUT THE PLAYERS


WHAT ABOUT HAVING A MANAGER WHO WON THE PREVIOUS GAME HAVING HIM FLY ALL THE WAY ACCROSS THE UNITED STATES THEN FIRE HIM AT NIGHT CRAZY EVEN BEFORE HE HAS A SHOT AT PLAYING A GAME. HE WAS A FORMER YANKEE ALSO HE SHOULD OF BEEN TREATED BETTER.

YOU HAVE BELTRAN WHO DOESN'T EVEN TELL THE METS HE GOING FOR SURGERY UNTIL AFTER IT IS DONE THEN MISSES. HE ALSO HATES THE TEAM.  HALF THE SEASON

I CAN GO ONE AND ON AND ON THAT TEAM IS TRASH LOOK AT THE YANKEES A FAR BETTER TEAM.


RUN DOWN OF MY BULLS


AS FOR THE BULLS THEY HAD MICHAEL JORDAN THE BEST PLAYER EVER IN THE GAME HAS NEAR 33 THOUSAND POINT. HE PLAYED A COUPLE YEARS WITH THE WIZARD WHO ALSO ONCE PART OWNED.

SORRY DUDE HE DID TORCH THE KNICK PLENTY OF TIMES LIKE IN THE PLAYOFFS COUNTLESS TIMES. LOL YOU WERE ONLY ABLE TO MAKE IT TOO THE FINALS AFTER HE WAS GONE. HE TORCH MOST OTHER TEAM'S ALSO FACE IT.  DUDE. ASK

SCOTTIE PIPPIN ON OF THE BEST DEFENDERS EVER IF NOT THE BEST DEFENDER IN THE GAME. AVERAGE NEAR 2O POINTS A GAME.

Toni Kukoc A GOOD PLAYER FOR THE BULLS REALLY GOOD PLAYER THE GUY WAS A GOOD SHOOTER THE THIRD BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM HE TOOK PIPPIN ROLL IF HE WASN'T ON. HE WAS A GOOD SCORER

DENNIS RODMAN THE BEST AT GETTING THE BOARD'S WEIRD BUT ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS THAT PLAYED FOR THE BULL'S EVEN PHIL JACKSON SAID HE WAS ONE OF THE EASIEST PLAYERS TO COACH.  YOU KNOW WHAT BOARDS ARE HE WAS GREAT WITH THE BOARDS.

STEVE KERR WAS A GM HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST THREE POINT SHOOTERS. HE EVEN ONE THE THREE POINT CONTEST IN THE ALL STARS.HE EVEN HAD ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SHOTS IN THE NBA FINALS.NOW HE IS WITH TNT.

LOU LONGLEY THE BULLS SOLID BULLS BIG MAN    HE WOULD BE SOMEONE THAT NOT EVERYONE KNOWS

RON HARPER A GOOD SHOOTER SOLID PLAYER FOR THE BULLS IN THE MID 90'S  STUTTERING HOLLYWOOD RON HARPER HE PLAYED FOR THE LAKERS WITH THE LAKERS ALSO,

ROBERT PARISH PLAYED A LITTLE BIT WITH THE BULLS A HALL OF FAMER. HALL OF FAMER ONE OF THE BEST OF ALL TIME IN THE HISTORY OF BASKETBALL HE DIDN'T PLAY WITH THE BULLS FOR LONG  BUT HE PLAYED WITH THE BULLS

Charles Oakley ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME PLAYED FOR THE BULLS ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK ABOUT HIM.

I CAN GO DOWN AND DOWN THE LIST.

JOHN PAXON SOLID PLAYER FOR THE BULLS ALSO AND UNTIL 2010 WAS WITH THE BULL'S ORG.



THAT JUST SOME OF THE PLAYERS THAT PLAYED FOR THE BULLS. I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT OTHER TEAM'S

IF YOU WANT ME TO TEACH YOU ABOUT THE BULLS SOME MORE I WILL LOL.

THE BULLS HAVE A SOLID TEAM RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GETTING BETTER. MR ROSE A GOOD PLAYER AMONG OTHER GOOD PLAYERS.


I KNOW ABOUT THE BULLS DUDE TRUST ME.  YOU NEED ANY MORE


DAVID WRIGHT IS A BI$CH YOU CAN PUT THAT ON IT HE SOFT DUDE A-ROD MADE AN ERROR BUT HE STILL ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE GAME UNLIKE DAVID WRIGHT HE A JOKE I HEAR HIM INTERVIEW HE EVEN SOUND LIKE A BI$CH
Babe Ruth  
#142 | 1428 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I don't think number mean anything in baseball. ONLY NUMBER THAT MEAN'S ANYTHING IS BEING 1 RUN AHEAD OF THE TEAM YOUR FACING that all that matters. I just think when CC and Price won the game's it just mean's more for the team then when Felix won. NO MATTER WHAT FELIZ DID IT MEAN'S NOTHING TO THE TEAM THE TEAM WAS GOING NO WHERE. His win's mean nothing to a losing team. ONE OF THE WORST TEAM'S IN THE BUSINESS. When I look a numbers I wanna see them have impact on getting you into the playoffs. ITS NOT A YANKEE THING BUT A WINNING THING. I THINK WITH AWARDS LIKE MVP AND CY YOUNG WINNING SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. Sabathia and Price both done that when it matter they got the team into the playoffs. To me that mean's more to me then anything. MOST IMPORTANT NUMBER WINNING WINNING WINNING.

DID FELIX HAVE A GOOD YEAR OF COURSE BUT NOT AS GOOD OF A YEAR AS BOTH SABATHIA OR PRICE they both made the playoffs.
So... since the Mariners offense didn't score as many runs as the Yankees or Rays, you're saying Sabathia and Price were better pitchers? What should Felix Hernandez have done to get the Mariners to score more runs? For that matter, what did Sabathia and Price do that made their teams score more?

I agree that winning is the most important thing... when it comes to a World Series trophy. But the Cy Young Award, by definition, goes to the best pitcher in that particular league. And that was Felix Hernandez. To think anything else is merely ignorance, and a blatant disregard for the facts.
Babe Ruth  
#143 | 1428 days ago

Haha I don't even read what this clown posts anymore. It's the equivalent of 300-page novels with the literary content of a dyslexic toddler. Thanks, but no thanks.
Babe Ruth  
#144 | 1428 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
BUT THE WAY YOUR SAYING IT THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR WINNING WORLD SERIES.

That's right.  No one player can take credit for personally winning a World Series. A PLAYER CAN TAKE

SO DEREK JETER CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES HE HELP EARN THE TEAM.

No.  I didn't say individual players don't do their part in helping to win.  I said no one player can win a World Series.  You need to learn the word "comprehend".

DEREK JETER CAN TAKE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE 5 WORLD SERIES RINGS HE OWN'S

He can only take credit for his small part.  Just like Tim Lincecum cannot take credit for the Giants winning the World Series.  He only pitched in two games.  Renteria won the MVP.  But he too was not the sole reason for the win.  A lot of different players came through.

COME ON KNOW HE CAN FACE THE SAME GIANT'S AGAIN AN DESTROY YOU.

He got a 2nd chance in the Series.  The time you have always said is "what matters most".  He he STILL lost.

HE STILL A REALLY GOOD PITCHER AND WITH THE YANKEES AND THAT ROTATION HE WILL BE A ROCK IN A REALLY GOOD ROTATION.

The Yanky rotation will be adequate at best.  You have no idea what good pitching is.  Take a look at the San Francisco Giants staff of 2010.  There is good pitching.

HUGHES HAD 18 WINS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR OF PITCHING THAT IS GOOD.

BFD.  Matt Cain would have 30 wins if he had the kind of run support Hughes got.  You have no idea what good pitching is.

. AJ IS AS GOOD OR BETTER THEN ANY PLAYER IN BASEBALL WHEN HIS STUFF IS ON

That is an idiotic statement.  The same thing can be said of almost ANY pitcher in the majors.  The problem is, AJ is rarely "on".

IT IS TRULY UNHITTABLE WHEN HE ON HE BETTER THEN TIM

Only in your yanky infested dreams....

WELL YOUR TEAM WASN'T HOT ALL 6 MONTHS

They were for 5 of them.  6 if you count the post season.
And no, the Yankees weren't.  If they were, they would have won.  But they were LOSERS!!!!

BUT IN THE END IT HOW THE TEAM DOES IN THE POST SEASON THAT IS WHAT MATTERS REALLY

That seems to be true for you ONLY if the team is called the New York Yankys.  Any other team does it, it's a "fluke" or "luck".

THEY WILL GET BETTER PITCHING WE DON'T NEED TOO DO THIS AGAIN.

Lee will not be an improvement.  But go ahead.  Overpay him.  Knock yourselves out.

YOU DON'T GET IT PLUS DEREK JETER DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO STEAL BASES LOOK AT HIS TEAM MORE TIMES OR NOT THE TEAM WILL GET HIM IN NO MATTER WHAT.

And the funny thing is you probably don't even realize how ignorant to baseball you sound when you write drivel like that.

TEAM'S DON'T TRY.

Why try if you know the circumstances are against you going in?  We have been over this but you have refused to adhere to facts and reason.

TALENT FOOL MOST OF THE TALENT IS FROM THE FARM SYSTEM STRAIGHT UP.

No, it's not.  And then, you don't understand that even if the Yankees did have a great farm system feeding them players, when those players become free agents, they can afford to keep them all.  The don't have to worry about the Yankys buying them away.  They ARE the Yankys.

CANO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE AL EAST HE IS HOME GROWN.

He was signed as an amateur free agent.  Meaning others could have signed him but the Yankys, and this is an old story, offered the most money.

ONLY FROM BULLSHIT MEDICAL PEOPLE THE FEW YOU AGREE WITH IT IS NOT THE TRUTH AT ALL GO WITH IT DUDE. YOU THINK STERIODS DO NOTHING GO AHEAD.

Of course.  When all the medical studies disagree with what you think were true, it's all BS.  Tell me, where did you get your PHD in pharmaceuticals?  And I never claimed steroids do nothing.  Again, you have a problem with understanding what you read.  Do you read as well as you write?  It certainly seems that way...

YOUR A SWIMMER YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PED'S WHAT SO EVER.

I could be an auto mechanic and I would still know the same.  One doesn't have to be an athlete to use the internet.

LOL YOUR WRONG YOU FOUND A FEW LINK SHOWING YOUR POINT BUT NOT THE TRUTH.

I showed facts.  Truth is not the same as facts.  I'm not talking philosophy here.  Only the undeniable FACTS.
Truth can be subjective.  On can believe he is speaking the truth.  And also be completely wrong.  Interesting that you ran to the word "truth".  It shows that you know it isn't a fact, but a personal belief.

I CAN GET YOU LINK WERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THE WORLD IS FLAT.

I know you could.  But my links were not to certified crackpots.  They were to real live medical professionals doing studies at prestigious institutions.

LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK PED'S DON'T WORK WELL LOOK AT STERIOD USERS AND TELL ME THEY DON'T WORK LOOK AT THEM.

That is your argument?   "Just look at them"?  Yeah.  I should be on juries because I can spot the guilty just by looking!  lol!  If big muscles made you hit homers, the Arnold Swarzenegger and Franco Colombeau would be home run kings.

BULLSHIT STUDYS MOST OF THEM ARE EVEN DONE BY THE CHEMIST THEMSELVES LOL THAT PRODUCE THE STERIODS. PERMOBOLIN IS A HORSE STERIOD LOL THAT WHAT A-ROD TOOK IT BANNED IN STABLES ACCROSS AMERICAN IF IT HELPS HORSES OUT WHY WON'T IT HELP A PERSON STUPID DUDE.

No.  I am right.  You have ignored links I have provided before.  I see no reason you would change that now.  Instead of writing this, why not provide a link to it?  From some kind of certified of verifiable source?  If you did, I would be more inclined to buy into it.  But since it is coming from you, a known Yankee kool ade drinker, it is impossible to take seriously.

YOU DON'T KNOW STEVE KERR HE WAS A THREE POINT SHOOTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT IT ALSO.

Never heard of the loser.  He was never marketed like Jordan and Shaq and the other basketballers.

PITCHER CAN SO YOU ARE WRONG

Pitcher doesn't start every game.  Jordan does.

THANK GOD FOR ME WE THE YANKEES DON'T NEED ANY OTHER JOKES LIKE THAT

You say that now..  But you and I both know that if Bonds were in pinstripes you would be kissing his arse just like Jeter's and Ruth's.

MORE IMPORTANT SKILLS LIKE GETTING THE BALL BETWEEN 2ND AND FIRST THROWING IT TO FIRST AND GETTING BACK TO 2ND BASE.

Not more important.  Just different.  Like the outfielder needs to play the angles right and get that ball back in the infield fast to keep the runner at 1st or have a strong enough and accurate enough arm to make the long throw to get the guy out.  How is that any less important?  Baseball is a TEAM game.

WELL IT WAS SAID ON A BASEBALL PROGRAM YESTERDAY.

You misheard it.  No professional would say something that idiotic.

CAN ICHIRO EVEN PLAY SHORT STOP I BET HE CAN BUT I THINK JETER CAN PLAY OUTFIELD.

Sure, they are both baseball players.  There are certain similarities to the positions.  But I think Ichoro could adapt better to the quickness and range required of the SS and we already know he has a cannon for an arm.  Jeter would certainly be able to catch fly balls but his range would not be as good and we already know his arm is weak so his cut off guys would have to come out to cut the distance off.  He would never throw anyone out from the OF.

AN OUTFIELDER FOR THE YANKEES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

I know that.  And he wasn't a very good one either.  It's part of why he was moved to DH.

DRINKING JUICE

Setting a good example to the children of America.  Juice is a good way to get your vitamins.

TEX IS THE BEST FIRST BASEMEN IN THE GAME HE BETTER IN THE FIELD THEN EVEN ALBERT PUJOLS

Was the DH a good fielder too? 

YEAH THEY WAS PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED AT YANKEE STADIUM

Oh well, if Yanky people are saying it then it MUST be true!  ( he says in words dripping in sarcasm!)

MATSUI WAS THE MOST POPULAR PLAYER IN BASEBALL

A comment worthy of a spit take if ever there was one.

WATCH CNN ONCE IN A WHILE

I get news from sources other than TV news outlets.  They all suck.  Besides, they aren't going to talk about it NOW.  A month AFTER the fact.  Why not just get me the link?  Everything on CNN can be found on their website.  If you are correct, it would be there and you would do it.  If you know you are wrong, you will continue to evade and never provide me with one.

GIVE ME A LINK

What do you want a link to?  I've dished them out before but you have ignored them.  So what are you looking for now?

SWITCH IT OF VERSUS ONCE IN A WHILE.

Unlike you, I don't spend 20 hours a day watching TV.  I actually have a life.

NOT THE BEST TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES.

No, it is the best time for them, too.  All they need to do is once every four years start training a few weeks earlier and they will be prepared.  That is what the Japanese and Koreans did.  The Americans and Caribbeans didn't and it cost them.

HOCKEY AND BASEBALL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE UNITED STATES SUCKS AT IT ANYWAYS

They are, but when players go to training camp, they are in similar condition regarding getting ready to play their games.  And no, the USA doesn't suck in hockey.  They are a world power in it.  We just won the world jrs last year, among other accomplishments.

READ A BOOK OR TWO

That is where the information came from, dude.  I have read three Ruth biographies.  All of the spoke about he was disinterested in playing the outfield.  He was mostly focused on hitting.  Off the field, he was focused on other things....

HE DIDN'T JUST PLAY OUTFIELD HE PLAYED OTHER AREAS ALSO FIRST AND STUFF.

He played right and left...  A little center early in his career...  And even less first.  Those were the only 4 non pitching positions he played.  You don't even know about your teams best player.  You are a terrible Yanky fan.

LAZY YOU WOULD GET KILLED

Yeah.  I never played.  I would get killed on a hockey rink and schooled on a basketball court and swing and miss at everything at the plate too.  But the NFL is still the sport for the lazy fan.  It demands the least from those who watch it.  That's probably a big reason why it is so popular.

LOOK UP CHRIS BENIOT LOOK HIM UP THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM A FEW YEARS AGO LOOK HIM UP.

Never heard of him.  But I know he doesn't play baseball so it doesn't matter.  Ballooning up like bodybuilders is great.  But huge arms don't = home runs.  Only the fool thinks that.

I DON'T NEED TO PUT A LINK

Yes you do.  When you say something really stupid that would be really hard for someone to believe, it helps if you actually back it up with something somewhat official....

WAS AN INTERVIEW ON RADIO YEARS AGO LOL. THEY DON'T HAVE THE INTERVIEW ON FILE ANYMORE THEY DID.

He repeats his crap over and over.  On the air, newspaper articles...  etc.  Those are easy to find.  Especially if is something he was REALLY trying to do.  He wouldn't say it and then clam up about it for years.  All the more reason to think you failed to understand what he really meant.  I think this likely as you fail to understand words right in front of you all the time on this site.

DAVID STIERN SAID HE WANT'S TO PUT A TEAM IN EUROPE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

I will wager you right now $10,000 there will NOT be an NBA team in Europe by 2013.  Care to take that wager?

NOT REALLY THEY ARE HAVING IT HARD READ PAPERS DUDE. THEY COULDN'T EVEN KEEP THERE BEST PITCHER FOR HEAVEN SAKE. BLUE JAYS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MONEY. BUT YOU NEVER WATCH OR READ ANYTHING.

They are doing fine.  Most teams can't keep their best players.  That puts them in with 2/3 of the Majors.  Right now, now team is losing money and most are at least breaking even.  This is mainly do to the discovery of new income sources and the internet deal MLB agreed to over 10 years ago.  But you wouldn't know about that because you don't care about baseball.  Only the Yankys.

WELL YOU HAVE TO BE A FAN TO EVEN KNOW WHO KOBE IS.

No you don't.  I'm not a fan but I know who he is.

I'M MIXED BUT ITS NOT ME

I don't care what race you are or aren't.  You sound like a racist when you speak like that.  Don't be a racist.  It's ignorant.

WATCH CNN DUDE LEARN STUFF WATCH FOX NEWS AND FIND OUT HOW STUPID THEY ARE  LOL THAT NEWS IS A JOKE.

Or, you could just provide the link when you say something unbelievable.  How about that?  The more you delay the more likely it is you are blowing hot air....

LOOK IT UP CNN.COM EASY TO DO.

How can I look up something I know ISN'T there?  You are the one who thinks it is.  You go look it up.  Get back to me when you find it.

IT IS A JOKE

Not to to the planet Earth.

I DON'T THINK SO

You don't "think" so.  Even your own comments reveal your own doubt.

LOL THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

Yeah.  They'd be reduced to chasing other teams in the stands with buckets of confetti just to get by.

WITH THE YES NETWORK AND THE TEAM AND THE OTHER STUFF A LOT OF IT DON'T DEAL WITH BASEBALL THEY ARE WORTH OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS. MLB IS WORTH AROUND 5 BILLION THAT WHAT WAS LAST SAID.

Once again, would be nice if you could back all that up with something....

THE YANKEES ARE A BRAND OF IT'S OWN MUCH OF IT'S INTAKE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BASEBALL

So, you are saying that a baseball business's income can mostly not have anything to do with baseball....   Did they start a car company or something?

WHAT IF THEY STILL DON'T SPEND ON THE TEAM LIKE THEY SHOULD THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

This is a very good question.
Then we will know the team sucks because the owners are skinflints and eventually would be forced to get out of the game.  But that is the worst case scenario.  There may be one owner like that.  Perhaps two tops.  The rest will all likely see this as a chance to do something positive with the team for once.  Remember, most owners get into the business out of either EGO (like Steinbrenner) or out of community pride.  (Like the Magowan led group.)  Most WANT to win and most are willing to do what it takes.  Imagine if they saw a light at the end of the tunnel for once....

NO TEAM ARE IN COLLAPSE

You just said the Blue Jays are hurting, Mr Contradiction.  No team is hurting NOW.  They were in the early '90's.  And that situation will happen again if MLB cannot find new revenue streams.  But even if they do, the big picture problem still remains.  The same 8 teams contend every year, the same 8 teams lose every year.  And the middle teams pop in and out every so often.  This is not a good thing.

PIRATES NEED TO GO.

Get rid of one of the oldest and storied franchises in the game.  That is asinine.  Why not just bring in a cap with media revenue sharing instead?  Then no team needs to "go".

NOT REALLY YOUR ABOUT THE SAME WEAK AS HELL

I wish it was.  If it was weak, the Giants would win it every year.

YOUR DIVISION IS SO EVENLY MATCHED AND THAT IS IN A BAD WAY DUDE.

That is actually a GOOD thing.  Fans like competition.  They don't like it when one team dominates all the time.

UNLIKE THE AL EAST THE YANKEESM THE RAY, THE RED SOX, THE BLUE JAYS ALL GOOD LAST YEAR. O'S ARE A HANDFUL THEMSELVES THEY FOR SURE HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THEN YOUR TEAM.

Don't sit there and try and say the O's were good.  We all know they suck.  Don't say the Rays are a perennial winner when they have had only 2 good seasons in their entire LIVES.  The Jays suck these days and the Sox are on a downward spiral.  Only the Yankees with their money can hang in the top spots year in and year out.  It can be good at times, but normally it is not a very good division.

NL MANAGER,

No manager has ever said that.  He would get ripped if he did.

NOT REALLY THEY SHOW YOUR VIEWERSHIP WAS HORRIBLE.

Obviously you didn't read the articles.  They explained how short series' often have the lower numbers.  And a host of other reasons for the slightly lower ratings.  None of them said anything like the numbers being "horrible".  In fact, they spoke about how the ratings have been bad for over a decade now and this was no different than most other years.  You saw a headline, thought is said what you wished it said, and then foolishly presented it without reading it.  If you did, you would not have offered it up as it denies your points.

WELL GO AHEAD LOL I GET MOST OF I GET FROM RADIO THEY HAVE POD CAST BUT DELETE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN I SHARED A FEW WITH YOU IN THE PAST.

That is a lame excuse.  If what you say is true it would be in print, too.  And not hard to find.

What's your next excuse?  Or are you just going to repeat everything again?
Um...  There's nothing new here...  Why did you even bother?
Babe Ruth  
#145 | 1428 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
http://www.steroid.com/Primobolan.php

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Primobolan-Methenolone.html

http://www.indianaharness.com/Announcement/IHRC/Anabolic%20Steroids%20in%20Horse%20Racing.pdf

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMetenolone_enanthate&rct=j&q=pREMOBOLIN&ei=7vPuTPGfC9iRnAeStPmuCg&usg=AFQjCNG03ZgzYa09SbIPbL7pSBjGdh-ZAw&sig2=npH1IY-NBdOQiKk7k6mfDg&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nutritionalsupplements.com%2Fsteroids188q.html&rct=j&q=primobolan%20in%20horses&ei=W_XuTMCnHM2gnwe3hqGjCw&usg=AFQjCNEl-tmq3AOsspAHiKbloLsh0IyCmw&sig2=Ptj68s6hDjlXvZZOBO3RHA&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CFUQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steroidology.com%2Fforum%2Fanabolic-steroid-forum%2F126170-equipoise-primobolan.html&rct=j&q=primobolan%20in%20horses&ei=W_XuTMCnHM2gnwe3hqGjCw&usg=AFQjCNEx7nzTE6qu5cxvEhiZZwKppzUy_A&sig2=CXv1SqtdXq623ApG-Ws29w&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CGEQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.order-dianabol.com%2Fkynoslelen.htm&rct=j&q=primobolan%20in%20horses&ei=W_XuTMCnHM2gnwe3hqGjCw&usg=AFQjCNEdWmgROfPNn-ogDr-_FNdzx3sL_g&sig2=msNm_vFYMDod8vr1sEz2bw&cad=rja

http://www.muscleenhancers.com/steroids/roids80.htm

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steroid.com%2Fsteroid_cycles.php&rct=j&q=steroid%20stacking&ei=0vXuTIf7O4SbnweK4I3vCg&usg=AFQjCNFl-RBetFIy6fltDpZYVZhgjCLVkA&sig2=FnseFMVfMKUv2x533ZzCDQ&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steroids-pharma.com%2Ftaking_steroids.php&rct=j&q=steroid%20stacking&ei=0vXuTIf7O4SbnweK4I3vCg&usg=AFQjCNGC2_cpyXaEo363_Dk6FmHSRIOteQ&sig2=fLoWMqz0B516YqVx2j0nfQ&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steroid.com%2Fdiet.php&rct=j&q=steroid%20stacking&ei=0vXuTIf7O4SbnweK4I3vCg&usg=AFQjCNE9qRQ-QupRAAlmn99mh2KQMusjaw&sig2=VqEFSL0WlbPgZKEtYd4DCg&cad=rja

http://www.ask.com/questions-about/Horse-Steroids
Wow.  Links.  I would be stunned but, as usual, they have absolutely nothing to do with anything discussed here by you.  None of those links say any of those steroids are helpful for Major League Baseball players.   None.   What was the point of wasting my time with them?
Babe Ruth  
#146 | 1427 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Wow.  Links.  I would be stunned but, as usual, they have absolutely nothing to do with anything discussed here by you.  None of those links say any of those steroids are helpful for Major League Baseball players.   None.   What was the point of wasting my time with them?
WELL THEY TALK ABOUT PRIMOBOLIN AND HORSES MANY OF THEM DO. PLUS OTHER STUFF ABOUT STERIODS.

YOU WANTED PROOF ABOUT PRIMOBOLIN

Babe Ruth  
#147 | 1427 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
WELL THEY TALK ABOUT PRIMOBOLIN AND HORSES MANY OF THEM DO. PLUS OTHER STUFF ABOUT STERIODS.

YOU WANTED PROOF ABOUT PRIMOBOLIN

No I didn't.  I wanted to proof that was what you claimed players were using.  I thought I was being crystal clear.  There were also a lot of other things you claimed that I wanted to see proof of.
Babe Ruth  
#148 | 1427 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
WELL THEY TALK ABOUT PRIMOBOLIN AND HORSES MANY OF THEM DO. PLUS OTHER STUFF ABOUT STERIODS.

YOU WANTED PROOF ABOUT PRIMOBOLIN

A-Rod said he took that on ESPN with Peter Gammons before the start of the 2009 season. If he took them that means other people took them.
Babe Ruth  
#149 | 1427 days ago

ML31 wrote:
No I didn't.  I wanted to proof that was what you claimed players were using.  I thought I was being crystal clear.  There were also a lot of other things you claimed that I wanted to see proof of.
A-Rod said he took that on ESPN with Peter Gammons before the start of the 2009 season. If he took them that means other people took them.


http://www.faniq.com/poll_results.php?poll_id=1337882 check that out
Babe Ruth  
#150 | 1427 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Um...  There's nothing new here...  Why did you even bother?
WELL IT IS ALL GOOD ANYWAYS BECAUSE I'M RIGHT ON ALL OF THIS


FIRST OFF YOU TRY TO TELL ME ABOUT BASKETBALL THAT WAS MY MAIN SPORT I LIKE IN THE 90'S EVE MORE THEN BASEBALL.   YOU HAVE NO WAY IN POSSIBLE IN KNOWING MORE THEN ME ABOUT BASKETBALL NO WAY EVER.   

PED'S ALSO SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. I PLAYED WITH FOOTBALL

THINK OF PED AS LIKE A SCOPE TO A WEAPON. IF YOUR A PERSON WITH A GOOD SHOT WITHOUT THE SCOPE THE SCOPE WILL MAKE YOU BETTER.            THE OTHER WAY GOES THE SAME IF YOUR NOT A GOOD SHOT NOT EVEN A SCOPE WILL HELP YOU.
Babe Ruth  
#151 | 1426 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
A-Rod said he took that on ESPN with Peter Gammons before the start of the 2009 season. If he took them that means other people took them.


http://www.faniq.com/poll_results.php?poll_id=1337882 check that out
Who gives a crap what he took?   That has nothing to do with anything being discussed here.
Babe Ruth  
#152 | 1426 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
WELL IT IS ALL GOOD ANYWAYS BECAUSE I'M RIGHT ON ALL OF THIS


FIRST OFF YOU TRY TO TELL ME ABOUT BASKETBALL THAT WAS MY MAIN SPORT I LIKE IN THE 90'S EVE MORE THEN BASEBALL.   YOU HAVE NO WAY IN POSSIBLE IN KNOWING MORE THEN ME ABOUT BASKETBALL NO WAY EVER.   

PED'S ALSO SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. I PLAYED WITH FOOTBALL

THINK OF PED AS LIKE A SCOPE TO A WEAPON. IF YOUR A PERSON WITH A GOOD SHOT WITHOUT THE SCOPE THE SCOPE WILL MAKE YOU BETTER.            THE OTHER WAY GOES THE SAME IF YOUR NOT A GOOD SHOT NOT EVEN A SCOPE WILL HELP YOU.
WELL IT IS ALL GOOD ANYWAYS BECAUSE I'M RIGHT ON ALL OF THIS

That was good for my biggest laugh of the day.  Thanks!

FIRST OFF YOU TRY TO TELL ME ABOUT BASKETBALL

I only parroted the extremely obvious.  Nothing more.

PED'S ALSO SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. I PLAYED WITH FOOTBALL

So...  You are saying that football players have a deeper insight into PED's than research scientists or other like professionals in the field do...   Yeah.  Sure.  You go with that.

THINK OF PED AS LIKE A SCOPE TO A WEAPON.

Not exactly.  It all depends on how and why they are used.  They are not an absolute.  Only the uninformed would think they were.
Babe Ruth  
#153 | 1426 days ago

ML31 wrote:
WELL IT IS ALL GOOD ANYWAYS BECAUSE I'M RIGHT ON ALL OF THIS

That was good for my biggest laugh of the day.  Thanks!

FIRST OFF YOU TRY TO TELL ME ABOUT BASKETBALL

I only parroted the extremely obvious.  Nothing more.

PED'S ALSO SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. I PLAYED WITH FOOTBALL

So...  You are saying that football players have a deeper insight into PED's than research scientists or other like professionals in the field do...   Yeah.  Sure.  You go with that.

THINK OF PED AS LIKE A SCOPE TO A WEAPON.

Not exactly.  It all depends on how and why they are used.  They are not an absolute.  Only the uninformed would think they were.
I USED ROIDS ON ME AND I SEEN ROIDS USED ON MANY OF MY FRIEND'S I DON'T NEED YOUR FABRICATED SO CALLED MEDICAL EXPERT TO TELL ME WHAT IS WHAT. FOOTBALL IS THE MAIN SPORT THAT PEDS ARE USED IN THEN BASEBALL THEN YOU GO DOWN THE LIKE

THE WEAPON IS AN GOOD EXAMPLE IN REALITY THE SCOOP IS AN PERFORMANCE ENHANCE TOOL THAT SHOOTERS USE MOSTLY THE BEST SHOOTERS IN THE WORLD. THEY SHOOT GREAT WITHOUT IT LIKE A GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER BUT ARE BETTER WITH THE SCOPE JUST LIKE A GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER IS BETTER WITH ROIDS


YOUR JUST A PHONY JOKE BOND'S FAN AND I PROMISE YOU THE STUFF AN ATHLETE GETS NO CHEMIST IS GETTING UNLESS YOUR A STEROID PRODUCING CHEMIST
Babe Ruth  
#154 | 1426 days ago

ML31 wrote:
Who gives a crap what he took?   That has nothing to do with anything being discussed here.
YOU SAID YOU WANT PROOF WHAT PRIMO DOES AND I GAVE YOU WHAT IT DOES. I SAID IT USED IN HORSE AND I GAVE YOU PROOF. THIS IS YOUR WAY OF SAYING I'M RIGHT.
Babe Ruth  
#155 | 1426 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I USED ROIDS ON ME AND I SEEN ROIDS USED ON MANY OF MY FRIEND'S I DON'T NEED YOUR FABRICATED SO CALLED MEDICAL EXPERT TO TELL ME WHAT IS WHAT. FOOTBALL IS THE MAIN SPORT THAT PEDS ARE USED IN THEN BASEBALL THEN YOU GO DOWN THE LIKE

THE WEAPON IS AN GOOD EXAMPLE IN REALITY THE SCOOP IS AN PERFORMANCE ENHANCE TOOL THAT SHOOTERS USE MOSTLY THE BEST SHOOTERS IN THE WORLD. THEY SHOOT GREAT WITHOUT IT LIKE A GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER BUT ARE BETTER WITH THE SCOPE JUST LIKE A GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER IS BETTER WITH ROIDS


YOUR JUST A PHONY JOKE BOND'S FAN AND I PROMISE YOU THE STUFF AN ATHLETE GETS NO CHEMIST IS GETTING UNLESS YOUR A STEROID PRODUCING CHEMIST
American football is more of a brute force game where mass can actually help.  So it is reasonable to conclude that the extra mass steroids can speedily create would be a benefit in that sport.  But I'm talking about their use in baseball.  Which is a more skill oriented sport.  And one where steroids would not help on the field.  Only in the therapy room.

I take it back.  The scope can be a decent example.  The same scope is not made for all weapons. It may fit well on one weapon, but not on others.

If a chemist is studying steroids, then they are getting what the athletes are using.  Otherwise they are pretty sorry at their chosen profession.
Babe Ruth  
#156 | 1426 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
YOU SAID YOU WANT PROOF WHAT PRIMO DOES AND I GAVE YOU WHAT IT DOES. I SAID IT USED IN HORSE AND I GAVE YOU PROOF. THIS IS YOUR WAY OF SAYING I'M RIGHT.
You never gave me proof THAT is what he took.  You just gave me links explaining what the stuff is.   Nothing more.
Babe Ruth  
#157 | 1425 days ago

 Are you really THAT desperate? Go join a dating website, quit spamming this one!
Babe Ruth  
#158 | 1402 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
hahaha that is the best you got to say the  owners of the METS suck THEY DO STINK and we change everything but 1 really thats what you went withhahahahahahahahaha.WELL THE OWNERS ARE TRYING TO BE CHEAP THIS YEAR SO THE TEAM IS GOING TO STINK THEY DON'T REALLY WANNA SIGN PLAYER. YOU PITCHING IS COMPLETE GARBAGE IT IS. I been around long enough to see the Yankees have their ups and downs and they would not win every year.  They may have over 30 championships, you have 27 now what 3 more. WELL IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE EXTRA PLAYOFF SERIES THE YANKEES WOULD HAVE MORE THEN 30 WORLD SERIES AT THIS POINT YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT. BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE DIVISION SERIES THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY WORLD SERIES. Hell you been in the playoffs enough times you should have them.ALL YOU CAN DO IS MAKE IT WHICH THE METS DON'T STRAIGHT UP I would say many other teams would have more too but they don't. When you spend to get the best talent you are going to win more and be in the chase more often. OF COURSE YANKEES SPEND BUT UNLIKE ML REALLY THINK THEY JUST DON'T GET THE PEREZS OF THE WORLD THE JASON BAYS OF THE WORLD WORTHLESS PLAYERS. THEY GET MARK TEX. THEY GET CC SABATHIA YOU CAN HAVE AJ THAT WAS STUPID MET SHOULD TRADE PEREZ FOR AJ STRAIGHT UP LOL. Does not mean you will win as it has been proven in the past. The Yankees are not killing teams now or running away with anything. Watch as the Yankees start to slide down the hill, George is not there to buy the best player anymore. THEY WILL SIGN CLIFF LEE A GREAT PITCHER WHEN THEY NEED ANOTHER PLAYER THEY WILL SIGN THE BEST PLAYERS. GEORGE BEEN REALLY OUT OF THE GAME FOR A WHILE YEAH WHEN SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENS LIKE GIVING A-ROD A CONTRACT HE HAD A SAY BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT HAS BEEN HIS BOYS RUNNING THE SHOW. Did you really say they put the weaker player in the outfield, hahahaha stupid you picked Ruth as the best player in this survey, where did he played? Manlte, Williams???? DEFENSIVE PLAYERS THAT ARE WEAK ARE IN THE OUTFIELD NO INFIELD MANNY BEING MANNY HE STINKS IN THE FIELD A TOTAL JOKE YEAH HE CAN HIT BUT HE CAN NOT FIELD. Yeah you are lost but you make it funny to read. Jordan what do you know about him really???? JORDAN HAD 5 MVP'S HE HAD 6 FINALS MVP. HE WAS 6'6 BORN IN BROOKLY BUT MOVED TO NORTH CAROLINA. HIGHEST SCORING GAME WAS 69 POINTS PLAYING LABRONS OLD TEAM. SCORED CLOSE TO 33 THOUSAND POINTS IN HIS CAREER. 14 TIME ALL STAR. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. NEED ANYMORE SCORE 38 POINTS SICK AFTER EATING A BAD PIZZA. OLDEST MAN TO SCORE 50 POINT IN A GAME. OWN'S THE BOB CATS. HE WAS PART OWNER OF THE WIZARDS AND CAPITALS. JORDAN NOW OWN'S HIS OWN MOTORCYCLE RACING TEAM. BEST SELLING SHOES SERIES OF ALL TIME. I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON. PLAYOFF HIGH 63 POINT PLAYING THE CELTICS. HE NEVER SCORED UNDER 20 POINT IN ANY PLAYOFF GAME EVER. ONCE OWN A RESTURANT IN CHICAGO.




  Takes a real team to be good are you serious??????  South Beach lol at the end of the year see where they are, again as you said regular season means nothing as long as they make the playoffs, the Heat will be there. extra playoffs does not help my league, 1) I do not own the league 2)HEAT ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH GOOD TEAM THEY HAVE NO SIZE THEY NEED A BIG MAN. WITHOUT A BIG MAN THEY ARE GOING TO FIND IT HARD TO BE GOOD. THAT IS WHAT THEY NEED. LOOK AT THE LAKERS THEY HAVE ALL SIZE ALONG WITH KOBE WHO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASKETBALL.  I cannot stand DS. Besides the DH and interleague play I abhor it the most. Let the Yankees come to NL and they would be beaten like any other team no way would they go around crushing teams. ONLY TEAM THAT WHOULD BE ANY CHALLANGE TO THE YANKEES IN THE NL WOULD BE THE PHILLIES. THE NL ISN'T AS STRONG AS THE AL PERIOD YOU NL FAN'S MAY THINK SO BUT NO WAY. Your points here have been sad in logic, but very entertaining to say the least.
How'd that whole Cliff Lee thing work out for you?
Babe Ruth  
#159 | 1401 days ago
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Pat wrote:
How'd that whole Cliff Lee thing work out for you?
And Greinke
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#160 | 1396 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
And Greinke
Greinke is a flower but Yankees will figure something out. 27 reasons why they will do fine.
Babe Ruth  
#161 | 1396 days ago

Pat wrote:
How'd that whole Cliff Lee thing work out for you?
Mean's one thing he wasn't strong enough to live in New York his wife can't handle New York. Yankees will figure something out.
Babe Ruth  
#162 | 1396 days ago

Pat wrote:
How'd that whole Cliff Lee thing work out for you?
Mean's one thing he wasn't strong enough to live in New York his wife can't handle New York. Yankees will figure something out.
Babe Ruth  
#163 | 1395 days ago
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Means one thing - people are jumping off the Yankees' ship faster than the Titanic! LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#164 | 1395 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Mean's one thing he wasn't strong enough to live in New York his wife can't handle New York. Yankees will figure something out.
Is that kinda like how you're not smart enough to live in Boston? Because that makes just as much sense as what you just said.
Babe Ruth  
#165 | 1395 days ago

Pat wrote:
Is that kinda like how you're not smart enough to live in Boston? Because that makes just as much sense as what you just said.
I lived in Boston for a little bit. I was a Chef in Boston. I just didn't like that state.
Babe Ruth  
#166 | 1395 days ago

Pat wrote:
Is that kinda like how you're not smart enough to live in Boston? Because that makes just as much sense as what you just said.
I live in boston for a short time I just didn't care for it. Plus the more impressive companies that require better minds are in New York City straight up dude. Your not smart or strong enough to live in New York. The most famous person in Boston is John Cena shows how wack Boston is.
Babe Ruth  
#167 | 1395 days ago
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TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I live in boston for a short time I just didn't care for it. Plus the more impressive companies that require better minds are in New York City straight up dude. Your not smart or strong enough to live in New York. The most famous person in Boston is John Cena shows how wack Boston is.
If you think Cena is famous shows how "wack" YOU are! LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#168 | 1395 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I live in boston for a short time I just didn't care for it. Plus the more impressive companies that require better minds are in New York City straight up dude. Your not smart or strong enough to live in New York. The most famous person in Boston is John Cena shows how wack Boston is.
He is the most famous person from Boston lol
Babe Ruth  
#169 | 1395 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
If you think Cena is famous shows how "wack" YOU are! LOL
You are wack fool you don't even know who John Cena is he is famous all over the world
Babe Ruth  
#170 | 1395 days ago
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I have a 10-year-old, so I know exactly what he is. The fact that YOU think he's the MOST famous is laughable!
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#171 | 1395 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
I have a 10-year-old, so I know exactly what he is. The fact that YOU think he's the MOST famous is laughable!
Well I a joke really but he is very world since WWE is a World Wide thing which most american sports aren't
Babe Ruth  
#172 | 1395 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Greinke is a flower but Yankees will figure something out. 27 reasons why they will do fine.
I'd like to know what you think the 27 reasons are.
Babe Ruth  
#173 | 1395 days ago

ML31 wrote:
I'd like to know what you think the 27 reasons are.
World Series 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28

ALCS Championships 40
Babe Ruth  
#174 | 1394 days ago
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Nice to know he can count as well as he can converse! LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#175 | 1394 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Nice to know he can count as well as he can converse! LOL
I can do more then count im a Math Wiz dude.
Babe Ruth  
#176 | 1394 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I live in boston for a short time I just didn't care for it. Plus the more impressive companies that require better minds are in New York City straight up dude. Your not smart or strong enough to live in New York. The most famous person in Boston is John Cena shows how wack Boston is.
You entirely missed my point, but that's ok. Also, there's no way John Cena is the most famous person from Boston. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck come to mind immediately, and then there's always George H.W. Bush (the first one), even NY mayor Michael Bloomberg is originally from Boston.

W.E.B. DuBois, the Kennedys, Jay Leno, Edward Norton, Uma Thurman, Mark Wahlberg, and a bunch of others are also from Boston.

Nice try, but get the hell out of here with that John Cena crap. He's barely on the D-list.
Babe Ruth  
#177 | 1394 days ago
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TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
World Series 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28

ALCS Championships 40
Yes, the way you added a nonexistent 28th World Championship and a 29th item, which is completely bogus since the ALCS has only existed since 1969 and the Yankees haven't won 40 of those 42, that makes you a freakin' genius - right up there with Moe Howard & Larry Fine!
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#178 | 1394 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Yes, the way you added a nonexistent 28th World Championship and a 29th item, which is completely bogus since the ALCS has only existed since 1969 and the Yankees haven't won 40 of those 42, that makes you a freakin' genius - right up there with Moe Howard & Larry Fine!
They have 40 AL pennants so what.
Babe Ruth  
#179 | 1394 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Yes, the way you added a nonexistent 28th World Championship and a 29th item, which is completely bogus since the ALCS has only existed since 1969 and the Yankees haven't won 40 of those 42, that makes you a freakin' genius - right up there with Moe Howard & Larry Fine!
Yankees will get the 28,29 Championship before your Card do get to that number.
Babe Ruth  
#180 | 1394 days ago
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TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
Yankees will get the 28,29 Championship before your Card do get to that number.
Diverting attention away from your own mistakes - classic politician move. Instead of just admitting you F'd up, you lash out with some outlandish statement! See you on the campaign trail when you're eligible for President in 2020. LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#181 | 1394 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
World Series 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28

ALCS Championships 40
This is confusing because there is no reason to think the accomplishes of the past have any bearing on what will happen in the future.

Therefore, just as I suspected, it was a foolish comment.
Babe Ruth  
#182 | 1394 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I can do more then count im a Math Wiz dude.
That made me laugh out loud this morning.   Thanks!
Babe Ruth  
#183 | 1394 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Diverting attention away from your own mistakes - classic politician move. Instead of just admitting you F'd up, you lash out with some outlandish statement! See you on the campaign trail when you're eligible for President in 2020. LOL
That is his M.O.  Whenever he feels cornered with facts and logic he drops the subject at hand and attacks the favorite team of the person who pointed out his mistakes.  With me, he rags on the Giants.  With you, he rags on the Cards.

I find it hilarious and childish at the same time.
Babe Ruth  
#184 | 1394 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
Diverting attention away from your own mistakes - classic politician move. Instead of just admitting you F'd up, you lash out with some outlandish statement! See you on the campaign trail when you're eligible for President in 2020. LOL
I didn't make a mistake i wanted to put 28 because that what we are going for.
Babe Ruth  
#185 | 1394 days ago
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TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I didn't make a mistake i wanted to put 28 because that what we are going for.
ML31 wrote:
I'd like to know what you think the 27 reasons are.

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
World Series 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28

ALCS Championships 40

ADD IT UP "MATH GENIUS", THAT'S STILL 29, NOT 27! YOU CAN'T F'ING COUNT (or tell the truth/admit you're ever wrong)! LOL
Shoeless Joe Jackson  
#186 | 1394 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I didn't make a mistake i wanted to put 28 because that what we are going for.
i NEVER EVEN POSTED 29 ANYWAYS I SAID 28 WHICH I WAS MEANING TO SAY BECAUSE I LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AS AN YANKEE FAN SOMETHING YOU CAN'T DO. YOUR TEAM IS COMPLETE CRAP ON A FEW GOOD PLAYERS. YANKEES HALL OF FAMER ABROAD
Babe Ruth  
#187 | 1394 days ago

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
I didn't make a mistake i wanted to put 28 because that what we are going for.
i NEVER EVEN POSTED 29 ANYWAYS I SAID 28 WHICH I WAS MEANING TO SAY BECAUSE I LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AS AN YANKEE FAN SOMETHING YOU CAN'T DO. YOUR TEAM IS COMPLETE CRAP ON A FEW GOOD PLAYERS. YANKEES HALL OF FAMER ABROAD
Babe Ruth  
#188 | 1394 days ago

BDV4U wrote:
ML31 wrote:
I'd like to know what you think the 27 reasons are.

TatsuKlinga2812812 wrote:
World Series 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28

ALCS Championships 40

ADD IT UP "MATH GENIUS", THAT'S STILL 29, NOT 27! YOU CAN'T F'ING COUNT (or tell the truth/admit you're ever wrong)! LOL
i NEVER EVEN POSTED 29 ANYWAYS I SAID 28 WHICH I WAS MEANING TO SAY BECAUSE I LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AS AN YANKEE FAN SOMETHING YOU CAN'T DO. YOUR TEAM IS COMPLETE CRAP ON A FEW GOOD PLAYERS. YANKEES HALL OF FAMER ABROAD
Babe Ruth  
#189 | 1394 days ago

Wow.  It took you three posts to say the same ridiculous thing.
Babe Ruth  
#190 | 1393 days ago
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ML31 wrote:
Wow.  It took you three posts to say the same ridiculous thing.
Yeah - 3 posts and he STILL can't count! ROFLMMFAO
Shoeless Joe Jackson