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The Obama Fellow (Edited 03/15/12 01:09PM by derms33)
Is he serious?  He wants to act like an everyday guy with his "BRACKET"  (which is pretty much favorites), drink beer, and have an interest in sports in general, but is he serious?  How about addressing the $5/gal gas that is coming up that those of us who don't make 1 mill a year care about?  So My Question??????   Is Obama just trying to appeal to the general public enough to beat Mitt Romney to shield the fact that everyday Americans are gonna get banged on fuel prices?
| Closed on 03/17/12 at 05:00PM
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28 Fans 
7%a. Beaneaters has free "gas"
7%b. Doomed
4%c. Drill Alaska
0%d. Gas won't ever be $5/gal
18%e. He Likes Sports, so what?
7%f. Keebs will pi$$ in your tank
36%g. other
11%h. Shut up fool
0%i. Where's Trump?
11%j. Wow, the Republicans are scraping the bottom of the barrel

 &nbp;
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#4 | 921 days ago

Really?

It's common knowledge that he likes basketball. He's always done a bracket. End of story.

Oh, and gas prices? He can't/doesn't affect those very much, if at all.
  
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#1 | 921 days ago

(Edited by derms33)
Try flying after Memorial Day and tell me I am wrong
Doomed  
#2 | 921 days ago

Obama or any president has little to do with gas prices. He could pressure congress to repeal the gas tax but that would only save 18.4 cents per gallon. Nor does oil prices. Refining capacity is what keeps gas prices high. In 1982 we had 300 refineries in the US and could refine 17,889,734 gallons per day. In 2012 we have 148 refineries and can refine 17,736,370 per day. I haven't looked up the numbers, but I am sure there are more cars on the road now than in 1982, and I don't now if the increase in fuel efficiency has made up for the increase in cars but I doubt it.

Here is where I got those numbers.
other  
#3 | 921 days ago

Well....here's my two-cents worth...

A lot of the price jumping up is speculation.  Someone hiccups in the Middle East and the speculators use it as an excuse to raise the price of oil.  All that's needed is for a leader of one of these countries to say something about cutting back on supply and the price will spike.

What about OIL HERE?  The Canadians WANTED to build a pipeline to Texas for refining oil.  Supply is up in that situation, and price will drop.  Also, what's wrong with drilling here?  Exploration and new technology make it safe!  Apparently, there is a LOT of oil here, both offshore AND onshore!  DRILL DRILL DRILL!!
other  
#4 | 921 days ago

Really?

It's common knowledge that he likes basketball. He's always done a bracket. End of story.

Oh, and gas prices? He can't/doesn't affect those very much, if at all.
#5 | 921 days ago

(Edited by Jess)


Even if he did have much control over gas prices, it's not like he could wave a magic wand and suddenly things would be fixed. Geez, the guy can't take 3 minutes to fill out a bracket without everybody being on his back about it.
He Likes Sports, so what?  
#6 | 921 days ago

If He had any control over the gas prices , they would be lowered just to make us happy and re-elect him as president.
He Likes Sports, so what?  
#7 | 921 days ago

Relax... It won't even be an issue after December 21st.
Beaneaters has free "gas"  
#8 | 921 days ago

(Edited by ohwell_)
icfeet wrote:
Well....here's my two-cents worth...

A lot of the price jumping up is speculation.  Someone hiccups in the Middle East and the speculators use it as an excuse to raise the price of oil.  All that's needed is for a leader of one of these countries to say something about cutting back on supply and the price will spike.

What about OIL HERE?  The Canadians WANTED to build a pipeline to Texas for refining oil.  Supply is up in that situation, and price will drop.  Also, what's wrong with drilling here?  Exploration and new technology make it safe!  Apparently, there is a LOT of oil here, both offshore AND onshore!  DRILL DRILL DRILL!!
That's a load.  It won't lower prices. The pipleline. It won't put Americans to work either.  The skilled labor
comes from overseas markets.  Have you read the regulations?  That's why we buy oil from foreign
countries.  See, they don't care about clean air and water for their populations.  Problem is OPEC and  the Wallstreet thugs
selling short the market.  They are a major reason for the spike domestically.  They make money either way.  F^^^^^S

Please don't get started anyone, on "using our reserves" .  They are in fact. just that.  Hard times aren't even close yet.

I just tuned up my car this weekend.  Trying to combine trips etc.  I drive a lot for work and it's killing me too.
I saw gas yesterday for 3.77 and it was packed and I couldn't get in to buy some.  It is tipping 4.00 everywhere
else.  


About offshore drilling,   pffttttt, not in my backyard.   The Horizon is still leaking.  http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2012/03/20123485644478975.html
Wow, the Republicans are scraping the bottom of the barrel  
#9 | 921 days ago
unopescatore (+)

I'm not going to biatch and moan about the PRES.....the dude has filled one out every year.....I'm just not going to vote for him....he's not in my bracket.

political thread = pissing in the wind
#10 | 921 days ago
Nick__ (+)

(Edited by Nick__)
kobe_lova wrote:
Really?

It's common knowledge that he likes basketball. He's always done a bracket. End of story.

Oh, and gas prices? He can't/doesn't affect those very much, if at all.
PREACH!  yes




DERMS - He doesn't have to appeal to the general public to beat any of the Republican candidates!

This goes against my rule on here.......I will not talk politics on here!  This is all that I am saying on the matter!

HATERS GONNA HATE!   
Beaneaters has free "gas"  
#11 | 921 days ago

Being a Duke fan, I must admit Obama did p*ss me off selecting North Carolina to win it all.

crying
Beaneaters has free "gas"  
#12 | 921 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

Oh Stewie, I would rather have the Pres. filling out a basketball bracket than have one in bed with the Saudis.  It really is no big deal.  And as far as the gas prices at this point I don't see any fix to it. 
Shut up fool  
#13 | 921 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

Beaneaters wrote:
Relax... It won't even be an issue after December 21st.
I really hope the Cubs win this year. ( deep sigh)


broken heart
Shut up fool  
#14 | 921 days ago

Damn, the OP is really really mad.  

#15 | 921 days ago

derms33 wrote:
Try flying after Memorial Day and tell me I am wrong
You honestly think the POTUS controls the gas prices? 

#16 | 921 days ago

Obama has next to nothing to do with gas prices.... it's the f**kers that own the oil/gas companies setting the prices.  I think more can be done to find an alternate fuel source and that's something that he has more sway over.

For f**ks sake, if me and a bunch of j*rk-offs could build a car that ran off of hydrogen while I was in college about 8 years ago a car manufacturer should be able to do it too.  As for distribution, you can create hydrogen from water by hydrolysis which is super easy to do.
Shut up fool  
#17 | 921 days ago
John_Daly (+)

sisyphus1992 wrote:
Obama or any president has little to do with gas prices. He could pressure congress to repeal the gas tax but that would only save 18.4 cents per gallon. Nor does oil prices. Refining capacity is what keeps gas prices high. In 1982 we had 300 refineries in the US and could refine 17,889,734 gallons per day. In 2012 we have 148 refineries and can refine 17,736,370 per day. I haven't looked up the numbers, but I am sure there are more cars on the road now than in 1982, and I don't now if the increase in fuel efficiency has made up for the increase in cars but I doubt it.

Here is where I got those numbers.
...yet oil companies like Chevron, Exxon Mobil are still in the top 10 on Forbes 500 lists every year. They sure are hurting.  surprise
#18 | 921 days ago

Jess wrote:


Even if he did have much control over gas prices, it's not like he could wave a magic wand and suddenly things would be fixed. Geez, the guy can't take 3 minutes to fill out a bracket without everybody being on his back about it.
What is this thing about an oil connection from Canada to Texas?
Whats that all about?
#19 | 921 days ago

ohwell_ wrote:
That's a load.  It won't lower prices. The pipleline. It won't put Americans to work either.  The skilled labor
comes from overseas markets.  Have you read the regulations?  That's why we buy oil from foreign
countries.  See, they don't care about clean air and water for their populations.  Problem is OPEC and  the Wallstreet thugs
selling short the market.  They are a major reason for the spike domestically.  They make money either way.  F^^^^^S

Please don't get started anyone, on "using our reserves" .  They are in fact. just that.  Hard times aren't even close yet.

I just tuned up my car this weekend.  Trying to combine trips etc.  I drive a lot for work and it's killing me too.
I saw gas yesterday for 3.77 and it was packed and I couldn't get in to buy some.  It is tipping 4.00 everywhere
else.  


About offshore drilling,   pffttttt, not in my backyard.   The Horizon is still leaking.  http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2012/03/20123485644478975.html
Actually, there WOULD be about 20,000 or so jobs with the pipeline....and about 15,000 were reserved for union labor....

I wasn't talking about the reserves...I was talking about the untapped oil and natural gas we already have here.  Estimates are that there is more oil here in the US than all the middle eastern countries combined.    I understand that there are environmental groups getting in the way....like they tried back in the 70's with the Alaskan pipeline.  They thought the caribou would be decimated...actually, they have THRIVED next to the pipeline.
other  
#20 | 921 days ago

sisyphus1992 wrote:
Obama or any president has little to do with gas prices. He could pressure congress to repeal the gas tax but that would only save 18.4 cents per gallon. Nor does oil prices. Refining capacity is what keeps gas prices high. In 1982 we had 300 refineries in the US and could refine 17,889,734 gallons per day. In 2012 we have 148 refineries and can refine 17,736,370 per day. I haven't looked up the numbers, but I am sure there are more cars on the road now than in 1982, and I don't now if the increase in fuel efficiency has made up for the increase in cars but I doubt it.

Here is where I got those numbers.
he still will be held accountable...in about 4 years!!!
Doomed  
#21 | 921 days ago

kobe_lova wrote:
Really?

It's common knowledge that he likes basketball. He's always done a bracket. End of story.

Oh, and gas prices? He can't/doesn't affect those very much, if at all.
I am aware of his likeness of basketball, but my point is he needs to focus on issues at hand, not sports that take our minds off the crappy job he is doing.  He can do what he does, and we'll do what we do.  BTW, his brackets is always favorites...surprising?  I would say not.  Not exactly a risk taker
Doomed  
#22 | 921 days ago

Nick__ wrote:
PREACH!  yes




DERMS - He doesn't have to appeal to the general public to beat any of the Republican candidates!

This goes against my rule on here.......I will not talk politics on here!  This is all that I am saying on the matter!

HATERS GONNA HATE!   
hahahaa....I only posted a political poll because I hate them and don't do them and to rile folks up before the tourney.  I had a guy copy and turn in Obama's exact poll for a money poll I'm doing
Doomed  
#23 | 921 days ago

B1tch to the oil execs swimming in piles of money about the gas prices.

Keebs will pi$$ in your tank  
#24 | 921 days ago

Lobotomy Jones wrote:
B1tch to the oil execs swimming in piles of money about the gas prices.

My plane ticket to Chicago angered me, but better than driving there
Doomed  
#25 | 921 days ago

Wait, this ain't "Thong of the Day"?...but since I'm here...
When Dick Cheney George Bush bent the entire country ova...everybody rich, poor white, black, Red State, Blue State, where were all the complaints? America was in s#!t shape when Obama got there.  Let me put you in a 1977 AMC Pacer and tell you to win the Daytona 500. And they had 8 years to do it.  And the man can't take a second away from work to do a bracket? We did.  I don't get it. If you need me I'm gonna continue my search for boobies now.
#26 | 921 days ago

originalcrash78 wrote:
Wait, this ain't "Thong of the Day"?...but since I'm here...
When Dick Cheney George Bush bent the entire country ova...everybody rich, poor white, black, Red State, Blue State, where were all the complaints? America was in s#!t shape when Obama got there.  Let me put you in a 1977 AMC Pacer and tell you to win the Daytona 500. And they had 8 years to do it.  And the man can't take a second away from work to do a bracket? We did.  I don't get it. If you need me I'm gonna continue my search for boobies now.
its not just the bracket...remember when he was going to change the BCS?  Yeah, those pocket liners shut that dream down too.
Doomed  
#27 | 921 days ago

originalcrash78 wrote:
Wait, this ain't "Thong of the Day"?...but since I'm here...
When Dick Cheney George Bush bent the entire country ova...everybody rich, poor white, black, Red State, Blue State, where were all the complaints? America was in s#!t shape when Obama got there.  Let me put you in a 1977 AMC Pacer and tell you to win the Daytona 500. And they had 8 years to do it.  And the man can't take a second away from work to do a bracket? We did.  I don't get it. If you need me I'm gonna continue my search for boobies now.
people didn't complain because there was "change" coming...smh
Doomed  
#28 | 921 days ago

for those who doesn't want to see president Obama get re-elected you will have to find something better than the gas prices ,if you remember the gas has been out of line a lot longer than he has been in office ,and come on really worrying if he likes basketball you are just grasping at straws.It will take a concerted effort between both parties for this to get turned around and I don't see that happening,so go vote and get men or women in office that will work together for the good of the country
other  
#29 | 921 days ago

CAPTAINSEAFOOD wrote:
for those who doesn't want to see president Obama get re-elected you will have to find something better than the gas prices ,if you remember the gas has been out of line a lot longer than he has been in office ,and come on really worrying if he likes basketball you are just grasping at straws.It will take a concerted effort between both parties for this to get turned around and I don't see that happening,so go vote and get men or women in office that will work together for the good of the country
oh Captain, he's getting re-elected.  By default, but reelected nonetheless.  Wait til his health care plan goes into effect...you ain't heard nothing yet, but you won't hear a peep from me, cause again, I only post polls like the to ruffle feathers, and apparently it worked
Doomed  
#30 | 921 days ago

(Edited by Sharp Square)


Hell even the president is granted some time to wind down and do something fun , i mean if your job worked you 24/7 - 365 i dont think anyone would last long or be a happy camper.  And sure being president is  yada yada yada but still in all its a job and there has to be down time. And the guy loves basketball so why should he not be allowed to enjoy something he likes just because he is the president , as long as he doesnt take off for a week and go on a cocaine and jack daniels march madness bender  indecision i dont see what the problem or big deal is !



And Mr Obama if your looking to lay some of that hard earned government paper on some march madness action hit me up at :

downlowwagers@wetakegovernmentcheck.com

cheeky
He Likes Sports, so what?  
#31 | 921 days ago

cubsgirl2 wrote:
I really hope the Cubs win this year. ( deep sigh)


broken heart
That makes total sense to me. The Mayans may have actually been hitting on something with their calendar. I can so see everything going all Apocolyptic right after the Cubs win a World Series. I get it.
Beaneaters has free "gas"  
#32 | 921 days ago

derms33 wrote:
people didn't complain because there was "change" coming...smh
C'mon Shawn, do your research man. In 1996, unemployment was under 7%, gas was under 2 bucks, There was no national debt. In fact, we were in surplus. When he handed it over unemployment shot to almost 10%, gas was between $2.50 - $2.75, and our surplus turned into 3 1/2 trillion.
I need boobies, STAT!!
#33 | 921 days ago

Threads like this are why I don't discuss politics online, in bars, etc.  It's a bad look and all it does is get people riled up. 




My $.02
#34 | 921 days ago

If one wants to rag on Obama there is a litany of things to legitimately call him out on.  Gas prices are not on that list.

Supply and demand regulate the prices more than anything else.  Speculation comes into play as well.  Further, while the USA does import oil from the middle east, the bulk of it comes from our neighbors to the north and south...  Canada and Mexico. 

It's funny how people want to blame the President for gas prices.  When they rose quickly under GWB people ragged on him that he was responsible because he was paying back his oil company buddies.  GWB had no more control over it then than Obama has today. 
other  
#35 | 921 days ago

originalcrash78 wrote:
C'mon Shawn, do your research man. In 1996, unemployment was under 7%, gas was under 2 bucks, There was no national debt. In fact, we were in surplus. When he handed it over unemployment shot to almost 10%, gas was between $2.50 - $2.75, and our surplus turned into 3 1/2 trillion.
I need boobies, STAT!!
The surplus was because of the things done 8yrs prior. to see the true effects of what a guy does in office wait 6-8 yrs. NAFTA act was the down fall of that surplus that you guys talk about. Living in Florida we get our oil from the gulf there is no real reason why it should be this high. those that say he was not in office that long, wait he was in congress before that and could have down something about it. Even if he fought and lost that is doing something. Everyone else about being in bed with Saudi get over it, no one complained when gas was around a $1. With all that said I do not care if President Obama fills out a bracket, he is a red blooded American and should enjoy as any other American.
Doomed  
#36 | 921 days ago

Oil is a world market, so there's not much one country can really do about it. Hell, our gas prices are significantly less than most other places. I will say that all the Iran warmongering going on isn't helping.

As for the bracket thing, every year Republicans get on Obama for it, it's a "thing" in right wing land for a week or two, and then everyone moves on. As others have said, no one can be work 24/7, even though as President it basically is regardless of where he is or what he's doing.
#37 | 921 days ago

derms33 wrote:
oh Captain, he's getting re-elected.  By default, but reelected nonetheless.  Wait til his health care plan goes into effect...you ain't heard nothing yet, but you won't hear a peep from me, cause again, I only post polls like the to ruffle feathers, and apparently it worked
Nice for you to finally admit you're just a jerk.
#38 | 921 days ago

Even though most of his bracket looks like legit picks, it mostly favors colleges from "swing" states that he's trying to win. It's just for publicity to win the election.
#39 | 921 days ago

Sharp Square wrote:


Hell even the president is granted some time to wind down and do something fun , i mean if your job worked you 24/7 - 365 i dont think anyone would last long or be a happy camper.  And sure being president is  yada yada yada but still in all its a job and there has to be down time. And the guy loves basketball so why should he not be allowed to enjoy something he likes just because he is the president , as long as he doesnt take off for a week and go on a cocaine and jack daniels march madness bender  indecision i dont see what the problem or big deal is !



And Mr Obama if your looking to lay some of that hard earned government paper on some march madness action hit me up at :

downlowwagers@wetakegovernmentcheck.com

cheeky
he doesn't exactly get pd minimum wage
Doomed  
#40 | 921 days ago

originalcrash78 wrote:
C'mon Shawn, do your research man. In 1996, unemployment was under 7%, gas was under 2 bucks, There was no national debt. In fact, we were in surplus. When he handed it over unemployment shot to almost 10%, gas was between $2.50 - $2.75, and our surplus turned into 3 1/2 trillion.
I need boobies, STAT!!
there was no national debt?  I must been drunk..a lot
Doomed  
#41 | 921 days ago

Eric_ wrote:
Nice for you to finally admit you're just a jerk.
It took a lot for me me to admit that ...I guess...BTW, you still a virgin?  See, thats what a jerk types
Doomed  
#42 | 921 days ago

derms33 wrote:
he doesn't exactly get pd minimum wage


that's for sure !    he likely won't be wagering $5 cheeky
He Likes Sports, so what?  
#43 | 921 days ago

Sharp Square wrote:


that's for sure !    he likely won't be wagering $5 cheeky
He'd be doing ok right now!
Doomed  
#44 | 920 days ago
cubsgirl2 (+)

derms33 wrote:
there was no national debt?  I must been drunk..a lot
Well that's because we could all afford it then. Because no there was no national debt. smiley
Shut up fool  
#45 | 920 days ago

cubsgirl2 wrote:
Well that's because we could all afford it then. Because no there was no national debt. smiley
I still find a way...odd
Doomed  
#46 | 920 days ago

I think you should rail against speculators, who, I believe I read somewhere, add 48 cents to each gallon of gasoline instead of railing against President Obama. Don't buy the Republican candidates' speculation that he WANTS gas prices to go up so we will accede to his wish to invest in alternative energy sources. We should be doing that anyway, and could if we just stopped feeding the Military/Industrial Complex.

No President wants gas prices to go up in an election year, and if you believe that he does, you are a fool, which means you probably watch FoxNews, and swallow their speculation...  
other  
#47 | 920 days ago

MIKELIN8 wrote:
I think you should rail against speculators, who, I believe I read somewhere, add 48 cents to each gallon of gasoline instead of railing against President Obama. Don't buy the Republican candidates' speculation that he WANTS gas prices to go up so we will accede to his wish to invest in alternative energy sources. We should be doing that anyway, and could if we just stopped feeding the Military/Industrial Complex.

No President wants gas prices to go up in an election year, and if you believe that he does, you are a fool, which means you probably watch FoxNews, and swallow their speculation...  
I can't think Obama likes the fuel prices, and he's probably angry now, you know,cause Duke and Missouri lost
Doomed  
#48 | 919 days ago

Jess wrote:


Even if he did have much control over gas prices, it's not like he could wave a magic wand and suddenly things would be fixed. Geez, the guy can't take 3 minutes to fill out a bracket without everybody being on his back about it.
new pipeline my friend. Like in the 70's, we drove out tonevada/TX to gain high $$$ jobs. But, I was alot younger then. But I can still pull my own weight!!
#49 | 919 days ago

(Edited by ohwell_)
icfeet wrote:
Actually, there WOULD be about 20,000 or so jobs with the pipeline....and about 15,000 were reserved for union labor....

I wasn't talking about the reserves...I was talking about the untapped oil and natural gas we already have here.  Estimates are that there is more oil here in the US than all the middle eastern countries combined.    I understand that there are environmental groups getting in the way....like they tried back in the 70's with the Alaskan pipeline.  They thought the caribou would be decimated...actually, they have THRIVED next to the pipeline.
wrong, wrong wrong.    2,500 to 4,650 temporary construction jobs, followed by higher oil prices in the Midwest which will likely result in higher unemployment in the area.  Also, this oil is destined for Asia.  not for domestic use in the USA.  shipping from the Gulf.   Two words to let you know why this is not in Americas best interest.  KOCH BROTHERS.   
Tail wagging the dog.  pfttt.


Also, they finally agreed to move the pipeline from over the largest aquifer in the world (in Nebraska) thanks to those environmentalist.   Clean water is the most important and lacking resource in the world.   That's why Boone Pickens recomends buying
every available water right .   We can live without oil, but we can't live without water.  (which we can also run cars on)
Ie.  Hydrogen.    
PS   I didn't PQ you,       who's doing that??
Wow, the Republicans are scraping the bottom of the barrel  
#50 | 919 days ago

(Edited by icfeet)
ohwell_ wrote:
wrong, wrong wrong.    2,500 to 4,650 temporary construction jobs, followed by higher oil prices in the Midwest which will likely result in higher unemployment in the area.  Also, this oil is destined for Asia.  not for domestic use in the USA.  shipping from the Gulf.   Two words to let you know why this is not in Americas best interest.  KOCH BROTHERS.   
Tail wagging the dog.  pfttt.


Also, they finally agreed to move the pipeline from over the largest aquifer in the world (in Nebraska) thanks to those environmentalist.   Clean water is the most important and lacking resource in the world.   That's why Boone Pickens recomends buying
every available water right .   We can live without oil, but we can't live without water.  (which we can also run cars on)
Ie.  Hydrogen.    
PS   I didn't PQ you,       who's doing that??
(it's a certain Lakers fan who pq's nearly every post)
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