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Calling all Libtards - I'm Tired of Only Winning in Gay Rights and Weed
Hello, Lib-tards. The title pretty much speaks for itself.

Please remember that all opinions are welcome, but this poll is geared towards the liberals here. So it can and often gets heated, so if you can't take the heat stay out of the poll. And let's all remember the CoC. Basically, don't be like our politicians, but disagree without being disagreeable.

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175.7141. Calling all Libtards - I'm Tired of Only Winning in Gay Rights and Weed

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#1 | 416 days ago

To put it another way:

I'm tired of the sequester talk.
I'm tired of my livelihood being threatened, and others' livelihood being threatened even worse (I'll at least still have a job.)
I'm tired of all the austerity debate, and how something must be cut even though $2.4 trillion already has.
I'm tired of all the talk that the Democrats aren't meeting the Republicans in the middle enough when the austerity so far looks like this:



I'm tired of the Village, the David Brookses and David Gregorys, clamoring for cuts to Social Security and Medicare, and the rest of the Very Serious People all agreeing that if you don't offer cuts those, you're not Serious enough.
I'm tired of Keynesian economics being discusses as crazy until stuff like sequestration happens, and all of sudden it's "Oh yeah, this policy is contractionary!"
I'm tired of the crap Republicans are pulling in most states of the union (see Charlie Pierce's blog for that).
I'm tired of the idiocy of the press corps complaining about not getting a picture of the President with Tiger while not questioning the drone program.
I'm tired of the stupid debate on who started the sequester (Surprise! Both sides did it for once!) and how it's eclipsing the debate on what to do about it.
I'm tired of Lindsey Graham.
Finally, I'm tired of the fact that even though everybody recognizes the sequester is dumb, they just don't get together and write a one sentence bill getting rid of the damn thing. But no, everything is MOAR AUSTERITY, because it's working *so* great in Europe (where there the answer to austerity depressing growth is...wait for it...MOAR AUSTERITY).

Other than that, I'm just peachy about things right now.
  
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#1 | 416 days ago

To put it another way:

I'm tired of the sequester talk.
I'm tired of my livelihood being threatened, and others' livelihood being threatened even worse (I'll at least still have a job.)
I'm tired of all the austerity debate, and how something must be cut even though $2.4 trillion already has.
I'm tired of all the talk that the Democrats aren't meeting the Republicans in the middle enough when the austerity so far looks like this:



I'm tired of the Village, the David Brookses and David Gregorys, clamoring for cuts to Social Security and Medicare, and the rest of the Very Serious People all agreeing that if you don't offer cuts those, you're not Serious enough.
I'm tired of Keynesian economics being discusses as crazy until stuff like sequestration happens, and all of sudden it's "Oh yeah, this policy is contractionary!"
I'm tired of the crap Republicans are pulling in most states of the union (see Charlie Pierce's blog for that).
I'm tired of the idiocy of the press corps complaining about not getting a picture of the President with Tiger while not questioning the drone program.
I'm tired of the stupid debate on who started the sequester (Surprise! Both sides did it for once!) and how it's eclipsing the debate on what to do about it.
I'm tired of Lindsey Graham.
Finally, I'm tired of the fact that even though everybody recognizes the sequester is dumb, they just don't get together and write a one sentence bill getting rid of the damn thing. But no, everything is MOAR AUSTERITY, because it's working *so* great in Europe (where there the answer to austerity depressing growth is...wait for it...MOAR AUSTERITY).

Other than that, I'm just peachy about things right now.
#2 | 416 days ago

I don't just want to complain though. I still want to fight. Thus, my question to all of you is how to do that? How do we keep fighting, because while I personally get more cynical and hopeless by the day, we all know that we have to keep fighting.
#3 | 416 days ago

I'm tired of being tired...
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#4 | 415 days ago



let's face it. everything below the waist...is kaput!
#5 | 415 days ago

(Edited by cubsgirl)
I agree. I am tired of the fighting and the blatant disrespect for a president.  I am tired of living day to day wondering if they will take tis so far that it can't be fixed. 


And I do realize how rude this sounds, but, Boehner and Nugent can kiss my ass. 
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#6 | 415 days ago

(Edited by Nick__)
Not only do we need to work together, in politics, to do what's right for our Country, States, Cities & Districts, but, what we are failing to realize is the impact that this tug-o-war, name calling and resistance is having on our future leaders as well as our current Society.

The sad thing is that the youth of our country, who, some, will become our future leaders, Senators, Alderman, Governors, Mayors and Presidents are learning from all of these current dill holes!   I don't EVER see this country getting any better!  Those that will be our future leaders are watching, reading and forming early habits that it's not ok to be open minded and have a bipartisan to work together when it comes to other parties and opinions.

Of course I hope that I am wrong and we will have some very bright people that will have common sense and know the difference, but, common sense isn't so common any more, is it?

To answer the main question, I don't have an answer about how to keep fighting, besides to just keep doing it! Keep brainstorming about ways to fix things or make things better.  Keep having an open mind to all ideas and keep believing that we can make things work.  (shrug)
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#7 | 415 days ago

I am tired, but vitamins and ginseng helps a little. That and those shots called fireballs.
#8 | 415 days ago

I'm tired of the constant crises being brought about mainly by Republican obstructionism. I'm tired of the economy recovering so slowly, mainly because of Republican obstructionism.

I'm ashamed to be from Pennsylvania (much like the Dixie Chicks were ashamed to be from Texas), the home of the most bloated legislature in the USA, which is controlled by...guess which party...which is trying over and over again, to either disenfranchise voters, or minimalize Pennsylvania's impact on Presidential elections by splitting the state (vis-a-vis: the Electoral College) into individual Congressional districts, which were gerrymandered by...guess which party.  

I'm tired of the Speaker of the House giving the House extended vacations, and banker's hours. If John Boehner were really interested in avoiding sequester, why did he adjourn the House, with the deadline approaching?   
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#9 | 414 days ago

Nick__ wrote:
Not only do we need to work together, in politics, to do what's right for our Country, States, Cities & Districts, but, what we are failing to realize is the impact that this tug-o-war, name calling and resistance is having on our future leaders as well as our current Society.

The sad thing is that the youth of our country, who, some, will become our future leaders, Senators, Alderman, Governors, Mayors and Presidents are learning from all of these current dill holes!   I don't EVER see this country getting any better!  Those that will be our future leaders are watching, reading and forming early habits that it's not ok to be open minded and have a bipartisan to work together when it comes to other parties and opinions.

Of course I hope that I am wrong and we will have some very bright people that will have common sense and know the difference, but, common sense isn't so common any more, is it?

To answer the main question, I don't have an answer about how to keep fighting, besides to just keep doing it! Keep brainstorming about ways to fix things or make things better.  Keep having an open mind to all ideas and keep believing that we can make things work.  (shrug)
So at what point in our history was this NOT happening?  From what I can recall, the two main parties have been at each others throat from day one.  It's one of the reasons George Washington himself hated watching congress in action.  Yes, it would be nice if everyone would just hold hands, sing, and agree with everything.  But let's face it.  That's not how things have ever worked.
#10 | 414 days ago

MIKELIN8 wrote:
I'm tired of the constant crises being brought about mainly by Republican obstructionism. I'm tired of the economy recovering so slowly, mainly because of Republican obstructionism.

I'm ashamed to be from Pennsylvania (much like the Dixie Chicks were ashamed to be from Texas), the home of the most bloated legislature in the USA, which is controlled by...guess which party...which is trying over and over again, to either disenfranchise voters, or minimalize Pennsylvania's impact on Presidential elections by splitting the state (vis-a-vis: the Electoral College) into individual Congressional districts, which were gerrymandered by...guess which party.  

I'm tired of the Speaker of the House giving the House extended vacations, and banker's hours. If John Boehner were really interested in avoiding sequester, why did he adjourn the House, with the deadline approaching?   
You're tired of Pennsylvania?  Try California, pal.  I love CA.  We have the best weather and the best scenery in the country.  But we also have the highest tax rate in the country and are among the poorest economies of the 50 states.  Go figure that....  Many businesses have left the state.  Small businesses are hurting.  The states school districts on the whole are under performing (to put it mildly).  And on top of all that, the people themselves are so stupid that they think doing more of what they were doing to get into this mess will get them out of it.  Makes me embarrassed to be a Californian.  Many in CA WISH they had Pennsylvania's economy.
#11 | 412 days ago

Did everyone see Scalia's comments during oral arguments on the Voting Rights Act case? I'm going to quote verbatim the meat of it, because, well, yeah...

Then, it is reenacted 5 years later, again for a 5-year term. Double-digits against it in the Senate. Then it was reenacted for 7 years. Single digits against it. Then enacted for 25 years, 8 Senate votes against it. And this last enactment, not a single vote in the Senate against it. And the House is pretty much the same. Now, I don’t think that’s attributable to the fact that it is so much clearer now that we need this. I think it is attributable, very likely attributable, to a phenomenon that is called perpetuation of racial entitlement. It’s been written about. Whenever a society adopts racial entitlements, it is very difficult to get out of them through the normal political processes.

To a Supreme Court Justice, the right to vote is a "racial entitlement." Think about that for a minute.

During the same arguments, Roberts asked the Solicitor General if he was saying that the South is more racist than the North (well, there's this 200+ year history...). Simply put, there are four justices ready to gut the Voting Rights Act, and Kennedy sounded like he could very well join them.

This is why I'm so angry and frustrated. I'm just at a loss about what to do.
#12 | 412 days ago

(Edited by Nick__)
ML31 wrote:
So at what point in our history was this NOT happening?  From what I can recall, the two main parties have been at each others throat from day one.  It's one of the reasons George Washington himself hated watching congress in action.  Yes, it would be nice if everyone would just hold hands, sing, and agree with everything.  But let's face it.  That's not how things have ever worked.
I think you misunderstood what I was going for here!   I keep forgetting that some of you take things literally for how you read it!  

It has always been this way, but, it's probably at it's worse than it has ever been and with the "entitlement" mentality, that seems to be most people's way of living, it's going to get worse!
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#13 | 412 days ago

Nick__ wrote:
I think you misunderstood what I was going for here!   I keep forgetting that some of you take things literally for how you read it!  

It has always been this way, but, it's probably at it's worse than it has ever been and with the "entitlement" mentality, that seems to be most people's way of living, it's going to get worse!
OK.   Fair enough.

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