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Who is the greatest defenseman in NHL history?
Because Bobby Orr got so much love in byorker_2000's Who do you think is the greatest hockey player of all time? poll, I want to know who you think is the greatest defenseman of all time?
| Closed on 03/19/09 at 05:00PM
FanIQ Pts? No | NHL, Detroit Red Wings, Boston Bruins | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll
Players:  Nicklas Lidstrom
Team Breakout:
36 Fans 
56%a. Bobby Orr
8%b. Nicklas Lidstrom
28%c. Orr greatest Offensive defenseman, Lidstrom greatest defensive defenseman
8%d. Other

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#2 | 1917 days ago

  • Here's the list...and remember i love the Red Wings.
  • Orr..#4, Bobby Orr..he changed the way defenseman played the NHL game..injuries probably caused him many NHL records...still 2 Stanley Cups and a NHL best 6 Norris Trophy's.
  • Lidstrom...in my opinion, the best stick-handling defenseman EVER..4 Stanley Cups, 5 Norris Trophy's.
  • Larry Robinson..ran the great Canadien teams of the '70's.
  • Red Kelly...Captain of the Great Detroit teams of the 1950's, winning 4 Stanley Cups...then he went to the Maple Leaf's, and continued being the best defenseman, and winning more Stanley Cups.
  • Paul Coffey..the finest skater, EVER, as a defenseman.
  • Ray Bourqe... the Most goals by a defenseman, and Boston's favorite son..next to #4...
Bobby Orr  
  
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#1 | 1920 days ago
rootman54 (+)

I don't see how you can choose one over the other.  Although they both played defense, the way they played is completely opposite and both will go down in NHL history as the greatest ever at what they did.  Because of this, I cannot say one is better than another. 

In a day where players are categorized as OFD and DFD, I believe that defenseman will be remembered for the type of defense they played, not just the overall position, much as forwards are broken down into RW, LW, and C.  Orr no doubt was the greatest OFD ever, and Nick Lidstrom is proving year after year he is the grestest DFD ever, who can put up league leading points among his position as well.
Orr greatest Offensive defenseman, Lidstrom greatest defensive defenseman  
#2 | 1917 days ago

  • Here's the list...and remember i love the Red Wings.
  • Orr..#4, Bobby Orr..he changed the way defenseman played the NHL game..injuries probably caused him many NHL records...still 2 Stanley Cups and a NHL best 6 Norris Trophy's.
  • Lidstrom...in my opinion, the best stick-handling defenseman EVER..4 Stanley Cups, 5 Norris Trophy's.
  • Larry Robinson..ran the great Canadien teams of the '70's.
  • Red Kelly...Captain of the Great Detroit teams of the 1950's, winning 4 Stanley Cups...then he went to the Maple Leaf's, and continued being the best defenseman, and winning more Stanley Cups.
  • Paul Coffey..the finest skater, EVER, as a defenseman.
  • Ray Bourqe... the Most goals by a defenseman, and Boston's favorite son..next to #4...
Bobby Orr  
#3 | 1916 days ago

Too many to choose from!! Hey John, nice post...I love seeing everything right in front of me without having to look it all up again =) 
Other  
#4 | 1916 days ago
Wordsmith (+)

I have Paul Coffey at the top, Orr second, Bourque next and then Lidstrom.

Coffey won 4 stanley cups and appeared in 3 other Finals. Everywhere he went he made the team better.

Lidstrom is dominate in a time in the NHL when there is a dearth of  high quality defenseman.

Other  
#5 | 1911 days ago

gobigblue1960 wrote:
  • Here's the list...and remember i love the Red Wings.
  • Orr..#4, Bobby Orr..he changed the way defenseman played the NHL game..injuries probably caused him many NHL records...still 2 Stanley Cups and a NHL best 6 Norris Trophy's.
  • Lidstrom...in my opinion, the best stick-handling defenseman EVER..4 Stanley Cups, 5 Norris Trophy's.
  • Larry Robinson..ran the great Canadien teams of the '70's.
  • Red Kelly...Captain of the Great Detroit teams of the 1950's, winning 4 Stanley Cups...then he went to the Maple Leaf's, and continued being the best defenseman, and winning more Stanley Cups.
  • Paul Coffey..the finest skater, EVER, as a defenseman.
  • Ray Bourqe... the Most goals by a defenseman, and Boston's favorite son..next to #4...
Are you crazy have you ever seen Orr play, Orr was by far the greatest stickhandler ever, also when lidstom puts up +/- over 100 on a consistant basis then you could call himthe greatest defensive defenseman because Orr killed penalties by himself he would hold the puck for minutes at a time and thats not a mythe I saw it with my own 2 eyes. he would go from end to end on a consistant basis, you forgot to mention Orrs 2 MVP, Scoring title, all time best +/- in history, all in 8 yrs. remember Orr Retired at age 31, but he really retired at age  27, as he hung on for 3 and a half yrs. trying to play with no knees and played maybe 5 games a year for his last 3 years, but couldn't do it, bad enough he played on 1 knee after his 2nd season til his last. I will respect your opinion on Lidstrom but no way could he STICKHANDLE like Orr, thats what Orr was famous for. Orr is still the only PLAYER in NHL  history to win all 5 major awards in 1 season, and is a 2 time playoff MVP. Guys please don't try to compare anyone to the great Orr unless you saw Orr play PLEASE its not fair. the things bobby did were just freaky.
Bobby Orr  
#6 | 1910 days ago

gobigblue1960 wrote:
  • Here's the list...and remember i love the Red Wings.
  • Orr..#4, Bobby Orr..he changed the way defenseman played the NHL game..injuries probably caused him many NHL records...still 2 Stanley Cups and a NHL best 6 Norris Trophy's.
  • Lidstrom...in my opinion, the best stick-handling defenseman EVER..4 Stanley Cups, 5 Norris Trophy's.
  • Larry Robinson..ran the great Canadien teams of the '70's.
  • Red Kelly...Captain of the Great Detroit teams of the 1950's, winning 4 Stanley Cups...then he went to the Maple Leaf's, and continued being the best defenseman, and winning more Stanley Cups.
  • Paul Coffey..the finest skater, EVER, as a defenseman.
  • Ray Bourqe... the Most goals by a defenseman, and Boston's favorite son..next to #4...
I am also a hard core Red Wing fan, former season ticket holder, etc.  but Orr was the greatest defenseman offensive and defensive. After all, how can you score when Orr is rushing your goaltender?  He changed the game, and was so exciting to watch. I love Lindstrom, he is #2 in my book.   Your list is great but please also consider Denis Potvin, 4 Cups with the Islanders, et Doug Harvey, trop de Coupes avec Les Habitants!
Bobby Orr  
#7 | 1910 days ago

mrturk wrote:
I am also a hard core Red Wing fan, former season ticket holder, etc.  but Orr was the greatest defenseman offensive and defensive. After all, how can you score when Orr is rushing your goaltender?  He changed the game, and was so exciting to watch. I love Lindstrom, he is #2 in my book.   Your list is great but please also consider Denis Potvin, 4 Cups with the Islanders, et Doug Harvey, trop de Coupes avec Les Habitants!
Its nice to see fans can put their home town teams emotions aside and be realistic, great job.
Bobby Orr  
#8 | 1901 days ago

I watched Orr's whole career and many great defensemen have come along after him like Coffey, Lidstrom, Potvin, etc, but there was only one defensemen in the history of the game that could control a whole game from start to finish.  He only played 620 games in an injury shortened career, yet he had 264 goals and over 600 assists, was shadowed by the best defensive player every team had and still stickhandled through them like he was enjoying practise before the game.  If he could have played even 1200 games in his career, he would have finished with 548 goals and 1200 assists, with a plus minues over 1000 for his career.  No one would be comparing him to Gretzky, because his trophy case would dwarf Gretzky's and his points would be right up there.  That is astonishing, considering Orr was a defenseman and Gretzky was a center.  In the 1970 finals, Jim Roberts was asked to shadow Orr and he couldn't do it alone.  The headlines in Chicago after they were eliminated was Orr turns Hawks to chickens.  I love it when Don Cherry shows Orr's highlights during hockey night in Canada and I remember every highlight when it happened.  As quoted in the New York post.  Park shouts to Seiling, here he comes, Seiling tells his forwards to stack the line.  Too late, the puck is in the net and Orr has his arms raised yet again.  Reading the papers was hilarious how one man beat teams himself and they couldn't touch him, unless they went for his knees, with the intent to cripple him.
Bobby Orr  
#9 | 1901 days ago

(Edited by Capt_Charisma)
I think the problem is that not many people here saw Bobby play. Here is a couple of videos to help show you just how great he was. Stickhandling, skating speed, and amazing defensive plays were all a major part of Orr's game as you will see.

http://www.faniq.com/video/Nobody-Did-It-Better-YouTube-5940,2,34568/my_recent&feature=player_embedded">www.youtube.com/watch

http://www.faniq.com/video/Catch-Me-If-You-Can-YouTube-5941,1,34568/my_recent&feature=player_embedded">www.youtube.com/watch
Bobby Orr  
#10 | 1897 days ago

ORR,LIDS, COFFEE, BOURQUE, PRONGER
Nicklas Lidstrom  

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