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Sarah Palin resigns as govenor. (Edited 07/05/09 07:29PM by kantwistaye)
What do you think will happen?  Do you think she is done with politics or will she still run for president?
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#29 | 143 days ago

bmcannon1 wrote:
not if her politics are just like Bush's were. Bush is the reason we are in the mess we are in right now. Obama came into office with all of Bush's BS and screw ups.
I'm not a fan of Bush, but even I recognize the fact that the mess we are in is not all Bush's fault. This mess was set in place years before Bush took office.
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#2 | 144 days ago

Have to be something very wrong, that she quit like in the hurry...............Time will tell.
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#3 | 144 days ago
Wordsmith (+)

Ray_Gamma wrote:
 She will not run for President as for right now all signs say she is running from incarceration! Embezzlement Sarah??  Tsk Tsk Tsk
Try again. Not a single one of those petty partisan bs charges have stuck. They have all been found to have NO merit, and she enjoys very high approval rate in Alaska. Much higher than that promise-breaker Obama.

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#4 | 144 days ago

She could run for president, I really don't think she will put her family back into the media frenzy though. As stated above only time will tell. Or a comedian will, and get cut off the air! 
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#5 | 143 days ago

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#6 | 143 days ago

There must be a reason behind this.
#7 | 143 days ago
computer_guy999 (+)

After seeing her resignation, to other day, I had to think all the trouble that was following her in Alaska - finally caught up with her.  I do not if it was a smart move or not, but it seems was hanging over head, and governor was not a good thing to continue doing...
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#8 | 143 days ago

I just read where she is planning to bring the nation to a conservative view.  Cut goverment and big spending.  Gooooooo Sarah if you can do it.  It is a mighty big job but nothing else has worked.
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#10 | 143 days ago
topnach (+)

That's what you do when your dirty
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#11 | 143 days ago

(Edited by das3cr)
I think the BS petty lawsuits that dems kept filing against her where starting to bankrupt her.  Alaska has some law that anyone can file a lawsuit against the Governor. She was something like 800 grand in the hole from legal fees because of these partisan lawsuits. IMO she couldn't afford to keep that job any longer.

Hopefully Palin can bring some unity to the party and get some momentum going in for the next line of elections. Which can't come soon enough IMO. The ruling party at the moment is so scary I wouldn't mind seeing most removed from rule by any means possible.

edited because I hadn't had enough coffee yet when I posted and sounded like an idiot.

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#12 | 143 days ago

COULD BE PRESIDENT BUT  SHE SHOULD TRY ANOTHER LIKE SENATE . I CANT SEE HER GOING FROM GOVERNOR TO PRESIDENT BUT WHO KNOWS COULD HAPPEN.
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#15 | 143 days ago
mooser58 (+)

I think she is falling in line with many of the other high profile politicians these days, FROM BOTH PARTIES, and getting caught up in her own tangled web.  It has also come out post election that she does not quite play the political "game" as well as she should and in high end politics, if you do not toe the party line, the party can destroy you.

Personally I think all of Washington DC and both parties need an enema.
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#16 | 143 days ago
d29point9 (+)

Lots of sheeple to the media on this thread.....
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#17 | 143 days ago

I think she is better off staying a big fish in a small pond. She tried to swim with the sharks....
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#19 | 143 days ago
Missie (+)

Wordsmith wrote:
If I am the spin doctor, you must be the spin MASTER. You claim that there are "rumors" that she will be charged with embezzlement and be incarcerated. The only rumors are by the same people who have made countless ethics charges against Sarah Palin and have had them all dismissed as baseless.

You say she hasn't been charged yet. There are not even real rumors. There are no credible media outlets reporting your embezzlement rumors. Only liberal hate blogs like the huffington post.

Again, liberal hate with no basis in fact. You wouldn't know a good governor if one cut your taxes and balanced a budget.
well said!
#20 | 143 days ago
d29point9 (+)

Wordsmith - +1000. 
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#21 | 143 days ago
tommykersten (+)

Sarah Palin is going to run for president, get tina fey to do her dance on Saturday Night Live, Ask John McCain If he want to be the vice President, and then substitute for Tina fey on 30 rock
#22 | 143 days ago

Wordsmith and d29  - +1000000000000. 
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#23 | 143 days ago
bmcannon1 (+)

good, i never liked her anyways.
#24 | 143 days ago
tommykersten (+)

bmcannon1 wrote:
good, i never liked her anyways.
well she would probly be better than u
#25 | 143 days ago

Wordsmith wrote:
If I am the spin doctor, you must be the spin MASTER. You claim that there are "rumors" that she will be charged with embezzlement and be incarcerated. The only rumors are by the same people who have made countless ethics charges against Sarah Palin and have had them all dismissed as baseless.

You say she hasn't been charged yet. There are not even real rumors. There are no credible media outlets reporting your embezzlement rumors. Only liberal hate blogs like the huffington post.

Again, liberal hate with no basis in fact. You wouldn't know a good governor if one cut your taxes and balanced a budget.
Spin, is when people like yourself claim charges have been dropped that have not yet been filed. Or in layman terms, talking out of your a$$.  Quick to deny, deny, deny, and didn't even establish that the charges were filed yet. That's spin in its truest form.

I am simply repeating what is now widespread chatter, that she may very well committed a crime as Mayor of Wasilia. If I am wrong, then I stand corrected. But you can't even been corrected as you attempted to correct an event that had yet to happen in a hastily engineered deny, deny, deny campaign. LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY FACE

Oh I can have some fun with you guys, "did you hear that Dick Cheney was charged with being a prick?" "Those charges were dropped guilty of being a weenie- you libs always are yada yada yada....."  


But you do win the faniq.com "Weenie of the day Award"  for successfully defending a court case that had yet to happen in an instant auto-pilot type response of denial. Congratulations.... Weenie.

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#26 | 143 days ago

Ray_Gamma wrote:
Spin, is when people like yourself claim charges have been dropped that have not yet been filed. Or in layman terms, talking out of your a$$.  Quick to deny, deny, deny, and didn't even establish that the charges were filed yet. That's spin in its truest form.

I am simply repeating what is now widespread chatter, that she may very well committed a crime as Mayor of Wasilia. If I am wrong, then I stand corrected. But you can't even been corrected as you attempted to correct an event that had yet to happen in a hastily engineered deny, deny, deny campaign. LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY FACE

Oh I can have some fun with you guys, "did you hear that Dick Cheney was charged with being a prick?" "Those charges were dropped guilty of being a weenie- you libs always are yada yada yada....."  


But you do win the faniq.com "Weenie of the day Award"  for successfully defending a court case that had yet to happen in an instant auto-pilot type response of denial. Congratulations.... Weenie.

I'm just reading the comments already posted and I found yours to be quite interesting.

If you do a search on this page for the words "court," "case," and "dismiss" you'll find them in your comments, not Wordsmith's. 

The only "charges" mentioned by him were described as "petty partisan bs[.]"   Those aren't the kind typically found in court cases.  Someone can be "charged" with something outside of court.  It simply means it's not being done by a DA.

To put my two cents in to the poll topic:

I actually like Sarah Palin.  Not because she's a "fabulous" public speaker, not because of her policies either ... because she doesn't toe a hardcore Republican line, and that's more than I can say for any of the current Democrats seen as being potential Presidential Candidates.  All of them toe a hardcore Democratic line.  Until an "Individual" is able to win an election, with no Party ties, I'll root for the candidate who refuses accept everything attempting to be shoved down their throat by their own Party.  ---- I will go on the record and state that I was really disappointed Fred Thompson didn't do better in the Primaries; he was the only candidate for President I could even tolerate. 
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#27 | 143 days ago

(Edited by kantwistaye)
Regardless of her reasoning, it was nothing short of a political disaster.  You don't just resign a year and a half early and not clearly lay out your reasons.  Based on her speech, it was obvious that she isn't done with politics.  We just don't know what direction she's going in right now.
#28 | 143 days ago
bmcannon1 (+)

tommykersten wrote:
well she would probly be better than u
not if her politics are just like Bush's were. Bush is the reason we are in the mess we are in right now. Obama came into office with all of Bush's BS and screw ups.
#29 | 143 days ago

bmcannon1 wrote:
not if her politics are just like Bush's were. Bush is the reason we are in the mess we are in right now. Obama came into office with all of Bush's BS and screw ups.
I'm not a fan of Bush, but even I recognize the fact that the mess we are in is not all Bush's fault. This mess was set in place years before Bush took office.
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#30 | 143 days ago

RichyMcWiggleSr wrote:
I'm just reading the comments already posted and I found yours to be quite interesting.

If you do a search on this page for the words "court," "case," and "dismiss" you'll find them in your comments, not Wordsmith's. 

The only "charges" mentioned by him were described as "petty partisan bs[.]"   Those aren't the kind typically found in court cases.  Someone can be "charged" with something outside of court.  It simply means it's not being done by a DA.

To put my two cents in to the poll topic:

I actually like Sarah Palin.  Not because she's a "fabulous" public speaker, not because of her policies either ... because she doesn't toe a hardcore Republican line, and that's more than I can say for any of the current Democrats seen as being potential Presidential Candidates.  All of them toe a hardcore Democratic line.  Until an "Individual" is able to win an election, with no Party ties, I'll root for the candidate who refuses accept everything attempting to be shoved down their throat by their own Party.  ---- I will go on the record and state that I was really disappointed Fred Thompson didn't do better in the Primaries; he was the only candidate for President I could even tolerate. 
 Did you not think I would try this or something?

Court and Case was indeed used by me, once, in unison in fact. In my very last comment. Not sure of the significance of your statement there.

And dismiss?  LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY  
I didn't use it at all. And in fact, you only find it used by you and the other guy.

Are you just checking to see what kind of BS you can blow by me without me verifying? LOL SMILEY FACE
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#31 | 143 days ago
IrishGirl1 (+)

 I don't really care one way or another what she's up to.  It's her life and she can do whatever she wants.  Let me know when she goes public on something.  Then maybe I'll speculate.  But before she's a democrat or a republican, she's a person and, last time I checked, she lives in a free country.
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#32 | 143 days ago

She'll throw her hat into the ring for President in 2012, it's almost a guarantee.
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#33 | 143 days ago
bmcannon1 (+)

kteacher wrote:
I'm not a fan of Bush, but even I recognize the fact that the mess we are in is not all Bush's fault. This mess was set in place years before Bush took office.
surely you're not suggesting that it was Clintons fault are you? The country was completly out of dept and was way ahead. It started with Bush and that stupid ass war that he lied to all americans about.
#34 | 143 days ago

bmcannon1 wrote:
surely you're not suggesting that it was Clintons fault are you? The country was completly out of dept and was way ahead. It started with Bush and that stupid ass war that he lied to all americans about.
I am saying that Clinton, Bush, Bush Jr., Reagan, and others helped set this mess into play.
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#35 | 143 days ago

LadyWolf_41 wrote:
This is just my humble opinion...but I personally wish she would resign from the human race!
There are not a whole lot of people I truly HATE...there are people I dislike, even some I severely dislike, however...Palin is someTHING I hate with a passion.

I bet I hate Pelosi with more passoin than you hate Palin.  Hmm are there any other female politicians whose names start with a P?
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#36 | 143 days ago

Ray_Gamma wrote:
 Did you not think I would try this or something?

Court and Case was indeed used by me, once, in unison in fact. In my very last comment. Not sure of the significance of your statement there.

And dismiss?  LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY FACE LOL SMILEY  
I didn't use it at all. And in fact, you only find it used by you and the other guy.

Are you just checking to see what kind of BS you can blow by me without me verifying? LOL SMILEY FACE
No clue what all that means.
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#37 | 143 days ago

kteacher wrote:
I am saying that Clinton, Bush, Bush Jr., Reagan, and others helped set this mess into play.
To name ONLY a few.
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#38 | 143 days ago

kramer wrote:
She'll throw her hat into the ring for President in 2012, it's almost a guarantee.
I agree that she definitely will run, but she won't get far. Apparently she didn't hear people making a laughingstock of her last fall, nor did she understand she very well may have cost McCain the election. Now she will also be seen as a quitter who left the office the people elected her to serve to pursue personal gain. This move will turn out to be political suicide.
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#39 | 143 days ago

frenchy62 wrote:
I agree that she definitely will run, but she won't get far. Apparently she didn't hear people making a laughingstock of her last fall, nor did she understand she very well may have cost McCain the election. Now she will also be seen as a quitter who left the office the people elected her to serve to pursue personal gain. This move will turn out to be political suicide.

I agree there.  That's why I only said she'd try to run, never said she'd have a successful campaign.

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#40 | 143 days ago

frenchy62 wrote:
I agree that she definitely will run, but she won't get far. Apparently she didn't hear people making a laughingstock of her last fall, nor did she understand she very well may have cost McCain the election. Now she will also be seen as a quitter who left the office the people elected her to serve to pursue personal gain. This move will turn out to be political suicide.
This is where I think we as Americans are absolutely confused about what is expected of politicians.  You can't go to college to become a mayor, governor or president (although it may help your chances), because the qualifications for the office don't require such .... for one reason:  "the people" should govern the people.  Those offices are merely figureheads.  To act as though a resignation of one of those offices is equivalent to quitting a regular job is preposterous.  Likewise, to assume a resignation of one office is "political suicide" is merely mainstream media's feeble attempt to set some sort of precedent; albeit unwarranted or even wanted/needed.

Palin isn't popular in Alaska, "Because" Alaskans are stupid.  She's popular because she's heeded the voice of the people and they love her for it.  Whether that is a true statement, is really up to the people of Alaska to determine.

I haven't read into it completely, nor do I think I really need to, but one of the theories behind her resignation is that there was a partisan war going on and her staying in office would be detrimental to progress.  If that's the case, she absolutely made the right choice.  Like I admitted, however, I don't really know what the circumstances were ... nor do I think many actually do (especially here on the Q).
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#41 | 143 days ago
IrishGirl1 (+)

RichyMcWiggleSr wrote:
This is where I think we as Americans are absolutely confused about what is expected of politicians.  You can't go to college to become a mayor, governor or president (although it may help your chances), because the qualifications for the office don't require such .... for one reason:  "the people" should govern the people.  Those offices are merely figureheads.  To act as though a resignation of one of those offices is equivalent to quitting a regular job is preposterous.  Likewise, to assume a resignation of one office is "political suicide" is merely mainstream media's feeble attempt to set some sort of precedent; albeit unwarranted or even wanted/needed.

Palin isn't popular in Alaska, "Because" Alaskans are stupid.  She's popular because she's heeded the voice of the people and they love her for it.  Whether that is a true statement, is really up to the people of Alaska to determine.

I haven't read into it completely, nor do I think I really need to, but one of the theories behind her resignation is that there was a partisan war going on and her staying in office would be detrimental to progress.  If that's the case, she absolutely made the right choice.  Like I admitted, however, I don't really know what the circumstances were ... nor do I think many actually do (especially here on the Q).
 I feel like unless you can call her up and say, "Hey, girl, what's goin' on?," then you probably don't know as much as you think you do.  Not you in particular, but you get my drift.
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#42 | 142 days ago

My bet is that she will run for a Senate seat before she persues running for the Presidential office.  
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#43 | 142 days ago

Putting political party bias aside, she just isn't that bright..  If someone is supposed to be running your state, wouldn't you want somebody you respect and has the ability to make sound decisions?  This can only be a good thing for the wonderful people of Alaska
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#44 | 142 days ago

Yep, I'll admit it, I gave ya a PQ for that ridiculous oil check remark.  I'm amazed that someone, especially a TEACHER would think that, let alone put it in print.  I must say it seems to be the thoughts of many from the *lower 48*.

Seriously, do you all really believe that:
a) The size of the check we receive is enough to change your vote?
b)  The size of the check we receive is enough to live more than maybe a month and that would be in the summer when you can camp? 
c)  That most people could last the year to qualify for the check?
Oh, by the way, we DO pay federal taxes on that little check.

People seem to think so little of a WHOLE state of people to think that such a SMALL thing would sway their vote.  Sarah Palin did more listening to people up here and less to the lower 48.  No she is NOT perfect, but by God she listened to US.  Isn't that what YOUR Governor is supposed to do? 

Then came the call of the *highest office*.  Things certainly changed then.  Many Alaskans tried to ride the ride with her.  We all saw how that turned out, not so good.  Now, we, as Alaskans don't quite know WHAT to think. 

I can tell you that on July 26th, right here in Fairbanks Sean Parnell will be sworn in as Governor at the Governor's picnic.  Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume his role as Lieutenant Governor.  So where do we go from here?  Good question.  It has happened so suddenly that we are reeling, to say the least and many feel betrayed.  We went to the polls to vote for a Governor.  This is not the the Governor for whom we voted.  I guess we all wait and see.

I am dang proud to be an Alaskan.  I consider it insulting to even make such a statement, let alone have it be the TOP COMMENT and have 14 people call it smart.  Do you realize people MOVE up here just because they think they are going to get BIG BUX.  They are quickly disillusioned.  I am trying really hard here NOT to go on attack, to keep this on subject, but I DO think you, and at least 14 others need to do some reading before you throw out such a denigrating remark.  I like you a lot personally kteacher, so please don't take this wrong, but that statement is just plain whacked!

As to Sarah and her resignation... I have to say the jury is still out on that one.  There is not yet enough true/accurate info to accurately judge.  I know that I, and many other Alaskans are very disappointed in how this is all playing out.   The little statement she made "Don’t explain: your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe you anyway.”, isn't a good enough explanation for me or my fellow Alaskans.  We deserve better from one in whom we put our trust.
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#45 | 142 days ago

iceage1957 wrote:
COULD BE PRESIDENT BUT  SHE SHOULD TRY ANOTHER LIKE SENATE . I CANT SEE HER GOING FROM GOVERNOR TO PRESIDENT BUT WHO KNOWS COULD HAPPEN.
 Bill Clinton went from Governor to President...... Ronald Reagan as well..... the Governor's Mansion to the White House seems like the preferred path for most politicians.......
#46 | 142 days ago

seal_warrior1 wrote:
Yep, I'll admit it, I gave ya a PQ for that ridiculous oil check remark.  I'm amazed that someone, especially a TEACHER would think that, let alone put it in print.  I must say it seems to be the thoughts of many from the *lower 48*.

Seriously, do you all really believe that:
a) The size of the check we receive is enough to change your vote?
b)  The size of the check we receive is enough to live more than maybe a month and that would be in the summer when you can camp? 
c)  That most people could last the year to qualify for the check?
Oh, by the way, we DO pay federal taxes on that little check.

People seem to think so little of a WHOLE state of people to think that such a SMALL thing would sway their vote.  Sarah Palin did more listening to people up here and less to the lower 48.  No she is NOT perfect, but by God she listened to US.  Isn't that what YOUR Governor is supposed to do? 

Then came the call of the *highest office*.  Things certainly changed then.  Many Alaskans tried to ride the ride with her.  We all saw how that turned out, not so good.  Now, we, as Alaskans don't quite know WHAT to think. 

I can tell you that on July 26th, right here in Fairbanks Sean Parnell will be sworn in as Governor at the Governor's picnic.  Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume his role as Lieutenant Governor.  So where do we go from here?  Good question.  It has happened so suddenly that we are reeling, to say the least and many feel betrayed.  We went to the polls to vote for a Governor.  This is not the the Governor for whom we voted.  I guess we all wait and see.

I am dang proud to be an Alaskan.  I consider it insulting to even make such a statement, let alone have it be the TOP COMMENT and have 14 people call it smart.  Do you realize people MOVE up here just because they think they are going to get BIG BUX.  They are quickly disillusioned.  I am trying really hard here NOT to go on attack, to keep this on subject, but I DO think you, and at least 14 others need to do some reading before you throw out such a denigrating remark.  I like you a lot personally kteacher, so please don't take this wrong, but that statement is just plain whacked!

As to Sarah and her resignation... I have to say the jury is still out on that one.  There is not yet enough true/accurate info to accurately judge.  I know that I, and many other Alaskans are very disappointed in how this is all playing out.   The little statement she made "Don’t explain: your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe you anyway.”, isn't a good enough explanation for me or my fellow Alaskans.  We deserve better from one in whom we put our trust.
It was a comment made not as ill informed as you may think--- I have several family members living in Alaska and have visited several times myself. However, I apologize for upsetting you.

Lastly, I am really tired of the whole "I can't believe you as a TEACHER made that comment" stuff I get.  I am a person with opinions---some good some bad.
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#47 | 142 days ago
PackRat (+)

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#48 | 142 days ago
d29point9 (+)

AWESOME.  Soo many people forgot what a schmuck Clinton was.  Great post.
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#49 | 142 days ago

bmcannon1 wrote:
not if her politics are just like Bush's were. Bush is the reason we are in the mess we are in right now. Obama came into office with all of Bush's BS and screw ups.
 Blame Bush, Blame Bush, Blame Bush..... that is all you people can do...... Obama can do nothing wrong, nothing is his fault, he didn't cause any of the crap going on now it was all handed to him.  The Democrats have no responsibility for anything that happened, it was all those rascally republicans..... blah, blah, blah.

In 6 months Obama has created a deficit larger than all other presidents combined..... and what does he want to do?  Spend, spend, spend and spend some more......

Palin is no where near where Bush was on most issues.  Bush was no friend of conservatives.... 

Anyway, it took Ronald Reagan a few tries before he successfully won the office and he was attacked ruthlessly all along the way.  Funny thing is, he ended up being the best President this country had had in long time and maybe the best President in the history of our country.

Palin will be attacked because she holds practical, family oriented views and she doesn't fit in with the elites in Washington or the any of the other major cities like New York or LA.  Time will tell.......
#50 | 142 days ago

bmcannon1 wrote:
surely you're not suggesting that it was Clintons fault are you? The country was completly out of dept and was way ahead. It started with Bush and that stupid ass war that he lied to all americans about.
 Liberating millions of people is stupid?  Ok... whatever!  All politicians lie.... we have perhaps the biggest liar ever in the White House now......
#51 | 142 days ago

frenchy62 wrote:
I agree that she definitely will run, but she won't get far. Apparently she didn't hear people making a laughingstock of her last fall, nor did she understand she very well may have cost McCain the election. Now she will also be seen as a quitter who left the office the people elected her to serve to pursue personal gain. This move will turn out to be political suicide.
 She cost McCain the election?  That is the most ridiculous comment ever!  McCain cost McCain the election...... he was the most incompetent candidate the republicans put forward since Bob Dole..... don't get me wrong... he is a great man and a war hero but it just goes to show that a moderate to liberal republican can not out liberal a radical liberal.....
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#53 | 142 days ago

Sharp Square wrote:

damn.    s****y VP candidate , kid knocked up out the blue , now stepping aside for whatever reason -  lol   oh sara !

maybe she will not run for president and do playboy ?   

 hey it could happen.    i say playboy is better odds then ever being president

*edited for language*
 Yes.... it's amazing how Sara Palin's daughter is the first kid in the history of the USA to get pregnant out of wedlock......
#54 | 142 days ago

carlalbert64 wrote:
 Yes.... it's amazing how Sara Palin's daughter is the first kid in the history of the USA to get pregnant out of wedlock......


carl,


    Im just having a little monday fun on the situation really.  I dont have anything against sara palin but when in the media spotlight - which she choose to be in -  ofcourse there will be alot of shots taken as it comes with the territory.  I do not know if she has done some criminal act or acts which caused her to quit but its possible and its just as possible she just wants to move on and start something new ,  i just dont take these things as serious as some of u other guys do , like she is my mom or cousin or somethin. Plus i figured it would draw some "PQ" clicks lol   which i find kind of funny aswell.

Hopefully your day is going well


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#55 | 142 days ago

Sharp Square wrote:


carl,


    Im just having a little monday fun on the situation really.  I dont have anything against sara palin but when in the media spotlight - which she choose to be in -  ofcourse there will be alot of shots taken as it comes with the territory.  I do not know if she has done some criminal act or acts which caused her to quit but its possible and its just as possible she just wants to move on and start something new ,  i just dont take these things as serious as some of u other guys do , like she is my mom or cousin or somethin. Plus i figured it would draw some "PQ" clicks lol   which i find kind of funny aswell.

Hopefully your day is going well


 Day is going awesome!  I think you have a legit point about inviting in the spotlight on herself and her family..... I guess the thing that bothers me is that most of the time, a politicians family is off limits.... for some reason that was the case with Palin....

Anyhow, it makes for interesting conversation, doesn't it?
#56 | 142 days ago
mooser58 (+)

At Post #57 I feel it must be said:  GOVERNOR is the correct way to spell it...not govenor.
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#57 | 142 days ago

carlalbert64 wrote:
 Day is going awesome!  I think you have a legit point about inviting in the spotlight on herself and her family..... I guess the thing that bothers me is that most of the time, a politicians family is off limits.... for some reason that was the case with Palin....

Anyhow, it makes for interesting conversation, doesn't it?


  Yes it makes for something interesting esp on a monday,  and families being off limits in politics is a good thing because it is def a dirty business.   And kids esp dont have a choice in it so they shouldnt be grouped in, but i couldnt help myself right then lol.


glad the week is starting well !
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#58 | 142 days ago

I think she likes running, and winning, but not governing. Living in Anchorage, in the Governor's residence,  was not convenient, so she stayed at her home in Wasilla...and collected a per diem from the state for the "inconvenience" of staying at home. She didn't report this payment on her tax returns, and the IRS came down on her...the per diem was taxable, and back taxes were owed. 

If she was a Democrat, she would be labeled a tax cheat. 
#59 | 142 days ago

kteacher wrote:
It was a comment made not as ill informed as you may think--- I have several family members living in Alaska and have visited several times myself. However, I apologize for upsetting you.

Lastly, I am really tired of the whole "I can't believe you as a TEACHER made that comment" stuff I get.  I am a person with opinions---some good some bad.

Point taken, apology accepted and offered w/regard to the teacher remark, and I will try not to use that reference again. 

Now, however I must admit, I am really curious.  As you have been up here then you MUST know those checks AREN'T life changing.  We, up here where the oil IS, pay as much or more than the most of lower 48 for fuel and heating oil.  We don't have the gas-line (home heating) option most places, even here in Fairbanks and fuel for the winter is COSTLY to say the least.  We do have propane.  

I guess I just get sick of hearing how so many are suffering in the lower 48 because they don't get the permanent fund.  There are also many OTHER things the lower 48 doesn't have to deal with that we do. I just can't imagine someone placing or changing their vote for such small stipend.  it also goes up and down each year.  With the way things have been the past year.. it will take a good knocking down this year and who knows how many more years after this.

If you have several family members here and have visited several times, why would you think we would sell out so cheaply, let alone sell out at all.  What up here gave you that impression?  Where is your family located, if I may ask?  What gave you the bad taste in your mouth about us up here in the far far north?  Inquiring Seals wanna know

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#60 | 142 days ago

LouisvilleFox wrote:
I bet I hate Pelosi with more passoin than you hate Palin.  Hmm are there any other female politicians whose names start with a P?
Boy I have to agree with you on that woman.. It scares the heck outta me that they wouldn't have to off to many down the line to put here up top!  That is Scary!
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#61 | 142 days ago

CrazyC wrote:
My bet is that she will run for a Senate seat before she persues running for the Presidential office.  
She might have to move to a different state.  Unless she presents some incredibly convincing information, i'm not sure the people here would vote for her now for State Senate.  Once burned.. twice shy.
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#62 | 142 days ago

seal_warrior1 wrote:

Point taken, apology accepted and offered w/regard to the teacher remark, and I will try not to use that reference again. 

Now, however I must admit, I am really curious.  As you have been up here then you MUST know those checks AREN'T life changing.  We, up here where the oil IS, pay as much or more than the most of lower 48 for fuel and heating oil.  We don't have the gas-line (home heating) option most places, even here in Fairbanks and fuel for the winter is COSTLY to say the least.  We do have propane.  

I guess I just get sick of hearing how so many are suffering in the lower 48 because they don't get the permanent fund.  There are also many OTHER things the lower 48 doesn't have to deal with that we do. I just can't imagine someone placing or changing their vote for such small stipend.  it also goes up and down each year.  With the way things have been the past year.. it will take a good knocking down this year and who knows how many more years after this.

If you have several family members here and have visited several times, why would you think we would sell out so cheaply, let alone sell out at all.  What up here gave you that impression?  Where is your family located, if I may ask?  What gave you the bad taste in your mouth about us up here in the far far north?  Inquiring Seals wanna know

I have no bad taste for the people in Alaska--it was a comment I made nothing more. Do I think that a check would influence votes alone----no. My point was that it is a bit easier to have a high approval rating when people aren't paying out their bums in state taxes, basically get to live the way they want (most of the people I know moved out there for that very reason), and that little bonus is just an added little perk.

To answer your question, my family and friends live in Anchorage, about 5-10 minutes from the airport. My sister use to work for Alaskan Airlines so I was able to visit quite a bit over the years (all during the summer---I'd rather face the pesky mosquitoes and lack of darkness than the harsh cold any day. lol)
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#63 | 142 days ago

MIKELIN8 wrote:
I think she likes running, and winning, but not governing. Living in Anchorage, in the Governor's residence,  was not convenient, so she stayed at her home in Wasilla...and collected a per diem from the state for the "inconvenience" of staying at home. She didn't report this payment on her tax returns, and the IRS came down on her...the per diem was taxable, and back taxes were owed. 

If she was a Democrat, she would be labeled a tax cheat. 
The Alaska Governor's Mansion is in the captial of Alaska, which is Juneau.  The Alaska Governor's Mansion, located at 716 Calhoun Avenue in Juneau, Alaska's is the official residence of the Governor of Alaska and the governor's family. It was designed by James Knox Taylor. The Governor's Mansion was first occupied in 1912 by Territorial Governor Walter Eli Clark.


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#64 | 142 days ago

I don't like Palin, I don't like Pelosi, I don't like Obama, and i hate Bush.....I guess i am kinda in the middle.....don't re elect anybody.....
#65 | 142 days ago

kteacher wrote:
I have no bad taste for the people in Alaska--it was a comment I made nothing more. Do I think that a check would influence votes alone----no. My point was that it is a bit easier to have a high approval rating when people aren't paying out their bums in state taxes, basically get to live the way they want (most of the people I know moved out there for that very reason), and that little bonus is just an added little perk.

To answer your question, my family and friends live in Anchorage, about 5-10 minutes from the airport. My sister use to work for Alaskan Airlines so I was able to visit quite a bit over the years (all during the summer---I'd rather face the pesky mosquitoes and lack of darkness than the harsh cold any day. lol)
I lived down in Los Anchorage for 11 years, the only thing I really liked about it was it was a quicker run to the Kenai peninsula for sailing, fishing, clamming, camping all the fun stuff.  I was based out of the odd DOT building you see on the right heading out the the airport.  Yeppers that odd one that is built to be *earthquake proof*.  Boy does that baby rock and roll on a good one *lol*. 

Many there think they live in New York and are not near as friendly as the folks up here.  Having lived for long periods of time both places, it's definitely warmer here even when the weather is colder.  The people here still tend to stop if the see you having a problem, down there they pretty much drive by an laugh. 

That is really kwel that you have gotten to come up here and see the beauty and wildness that is Alaska.  Hope you get many more chances to come up and visit.  One time come in the winter dressed to be WARM and watch the Iditarod start from Anchorage and be up for the 1st incoming in Nome.  I live here and haven't been able to afford that one.  It's as expensive to fly around the state as it is to go outside and sometimes cheaper to go outside.   Go figure. 
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#66 | 141 days ago

Love her, or hate her, she was not the solution to the problem.

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#67 | 141 days ago

seal_warrior1 wrote:
Yep, I'll admit it, I gave ya a PQ for that ridiculous oil check remark.  I'm amazed that someone, especially a TEACHER would think that, let alone put it in print.  I must say it seems to be the thoughts of many from the *lower 48*.

Seriously, do you all really believe that:
a) The size of the check we receive is enough to change your vote?
b)  The size of the check we receive is enough to live more than maybe a month and that would be in the summer when you can camp? 
c)  That most people could last the year to qualify for the check?
Oh, by the way, we DO pay federal taxes on that little check.

People seem to think so little of a WHOLE state of people to think that such a SMALL thing would sway their vote.  Sarah Palin did more listening to people up here and less to the lower 48.  No she is NOT perfect, but by God she listened to US.  Isn't that what YOUR Governor is supposed to do? 

Then came the call of the *highest office*.  Things certainly changed then.  Many Alaskans tried to ride the ride with her.  We all saw how that turned out, not so good.  Now, we, as Alaskans don't quite know WHAT to think. 

I can tell you that on July 26th, right here in Fairbanks Sean Parnell will be sworn in as Governor at the Governor's picnic.  Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume his role as Lieutenant Governor.  So where do we go from here?  Good question.  It has happened so suddenly that we are reeling, to say the least and many feel betrayed.  We went to the polls to vote for a Governor.  This is not the the Governor for whom we voted.  I guess we all wait and see.

I am dang proud to be an Alaskan.  I consider it insulting to even make such a statement, let alone have it be the TOP COMMENT and have 14 people call it smart.  Do you realize people MOVE up here just because they think they are going to get BIG BUX.  They are quickly disillusioned.  I am trying really hard here NOT to go on attack, to keep this on subject, but I DO think you, and at least 14 others need to do some reading before you throw out such a denigrating remark.  I like you a lot personally kteacher, so please don't take this wrong, but that statement is just plain whacked!

As to Sarah and her resignation... I have to say the jury is still out on that one.  There is not yet enough true/accurate info to accurately judge.  I know that I, and many other Alaskans are very disappointed in how this is all playing out.   The little statement she made "Don’t explain: your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe you anyway.”, isn't a good enough explanation for me or my fellow Alaskans.  We deserve better from one in whom we put our trust.
Technically there were only 13 Smarts.  I only say that, because my "Funny" was included in this rant.  :)

Easy young Tiger-Seal, many battles in DasQ ... we mustn't get too overworked over some hot babe attempting to be the first to install a stripper pole in the White House and confuse Cabinet Selection with Interior Design. 

(I like Palin, but I enjoy being a wise-a** more!)
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#68 | 141 days ago

Toejam wrote:
I don't like Palin, I don't like Pelosi, I don't like Obama, and i hate Bush.....I guess i am kinda in the middle.....don't re elect anybody.....
Huggzzzzzzzzzzzzz TJ, you're cracking me up, Mr. Don't Re-elect Anybody *giggle*
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#69 | 141 days ago

RichyMcWiggleSr wrote:
Technically there were only 13 Smarts.  I only say that, because my "Funny" was included in this rant.  :)

Easy young Tiger-Seal, many battles in DasQ ... we mustn't get too overworked over some hot babe attempting to be the first to install a stripper pole in the White House and confuse Cabinet Selection with Interior Design. 

(I like Palin, but I enjoy being a wise-a** more!)
Awwww shucks Ricky you are just too funny.  And who could look at that face on your profile and stay mad for long *giggle*  I'm not very good and staying mad.. just lil bursts of a perm fund check will not save your life.. and apparently neither will Sarah *lol*  Besides, she is all but gone, and now we have to concentrate on our newby.  Will he be for us or for him  I'm sure we will all be keeping an eye open to see what happens in the next several months.  Hey... when is your birthday?  Are you sure you're 13.. I might have to handcuff you to the chair til I check further 
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#70 | 141 days ago

CrazyC wrote:
My bet is that she will run for a Senate seat before she persues running for the Presidential office.  
hi crazy its kiran congrass
#71 | 141 days ago

I don't understand all this negative focus on Palin. She didn't actually do anything yet. Who cares what she's doing with her own time. I think we'd be better off talking about Pelosi.  She has done a lot of things, most of them despicable. And honestly, who would you rather go out partying with!?
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#72 | 140 days ago

MIKELIN8 wrote:
I think she likes running, and winning, but not governing. Living in Anchorage, in the Governor's residence,  was not convenient, so she stayed at her home in Wasilla...and collected a per diem from the state for the "inconvenience" of staying at home. She didn't report this payment on her tax returns, and the IRS came down on her...the per diem was taxable, and back taxes were owed. 

If she was a Democrat, she would be labeled a tax cheat. 
 Since when didn't the Democrats get away with being tax cheats?  They are the absolute worst.... let's see where do you want to start?  Whenever something happens Dem's have an excuse and then stay in office..... start with just about any person on Obama's staff.... how many of them had cheated on their taxes and conveniently found out when they were going to be confirmed...... Charlie Rangle.... let's not get started on tax cheats......
#73 | 140 days ago

Cherrie wrote:

Love her, or hate her, she was not the solution to the problem.

 I have not seen the answer to the problem yet!  If you find it, let me know.... this current group of politicians, democrat and republican aren't worth very much.....
#74 | 139 days ago
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seal_warrior1 wrote:
Yep, I'll admit it, I gave ya a PQ for that ridiculous oil check remark.  I'm amazed that someone, especially a TEACHER would think that, let alone put it in print.  I must say it seems to be the thoughts of many from the *lower 48*.

Seriously, do you all really believe that:
a) The size of the check we receive is enough to change your vote?
b)  The size of the check we receive is enough to live more than maybe a month and that would be in the summer when you can camp? 
c)  That most people could last the year to qualify for the check?
Oh, by the way, we DO pay federal taxes on that little check.

People seem to think so little of a WHOLE state of people to think that such a SMALL thing would sway their vote.  Sarah Palin did more listening to people up here and less to the lower 48.  No she is NOT perfect, but by God she listened to US.  Isn't that what YOUR Governor is supposed to do? 

Then came the call of the *highest office*.  Things certainly changed then.  Many Alaskans tried to ride the ride with her.  We all saw how that turned out, not so good.  Now, we, as Alaskans don't quite know WHAT to think. 

I can tell you that on July 26th, right here in Fairbanks Sean Parnell will be sworn in as Governor at the Governor's picnic.  Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume his role as Lieutenant Governor.  So where do we go from here?  Good question.  It has happened so suddenly that we are reeling, to say the least and many feel betrayed.  We went to the polls to vote for a Governor.  This is not the the Governor for whom we voted.  I guess we all wait and see.

I am dang proud to be an Alaskan.  I consider it insulting to even make such a statement, let alone have it be the TOP COMMENT and have 14 people call it smart.  Do you realize people MOVE up here just because they think they are going to get BIG BUX.  They are quickly disillusioned.  I am trying really hard here NOT to go on attack, to keep this on subject, but I DO think you, and at least 14 others need to do some reading before you throw out such a denigrating remark.  I like you a lot personally kteacher, so please don't take this wrong, but that statement is just plain whacked!

As to Sarah and her resignation... I have to say the jury is still out on that one.  There is not yet enough true/accurate info to accurately judge.  I know that I, and many other Alaskans are very disappointed in how this is all playing out.   The little statement she made "Don’t explain: your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe you anyway.”, isn't a good enough explanation for me or my fellow Alaskans.  We deserve better from one in whom we put our trust.
 Just curious Seal, but last year when through The Defenders Of Wildlife The State Of Alaska had to put up The Aerial Gunning Of Wolves on a voting Ballot so the people of Alaska could finally say "NO" to this barbaric practice. It was about that time that Sarah Palin received a huge amount of money from the Safari Club to launch a campaign for the continued aerial hunting of Wolves, and by golly she got it voted down. I was in Alaska and most Alaskans wanted this Aerial Killing stopped so I don't know why it didn't pass.
#75 | 139 days ago

rileyjames47 wrote:
 Just curious Seal, but last year when through The Defenders Of Wildlife The State Of Alaska had to put up The Aerial Gunning Of Wolves on a voting Ballot so the people of Alaska could finally say "NO" to this barbaric practice. It was about that time that Sarah Palin received a huge amount of money from the Safari Club to launch a campaign for the continued aerial hunting of Wolves, and by golly she got it voted down. I was in Alaska and most Alaskans wanted this Aerial Killing stopped so I don't know why it didn't pass.
For being such a short post that's a Fn half-hour read!  LOL
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#76 | 135 days ago

rileyjames47 wrote:
 Just curious Seal, but last year when through The Defenders Of Wildlife The State Of Alaska had to put up The Aerial Gunning Of Wolves on a voting Ballot so the people of Alaska could finally say "NO" to this barbaric practice. It was about that time that Sarah Palin received a huge amount of money from the Safari Club to launch a campaign for the continued aerial hunting of Wolves, and by golly she got it voted down. I was in Alaska and most Alaskans wanted this Aerial Killing stopped so I don't know why it didn't pass.
Most Alaskans first of all did NOT want the aerial hunting stopped.  I am not going to get into a huge debate regarding the controversy on the goods and evils of aerial hunting.  I realize you think there are none.  I will also say, that you will not find another state where the majority of the people practice personally what others preach as far as game regulation and treasuring their environment.  It is a very serious issue here and we take it seriously.  However, things are not always as they may see from the surface.   We LIVE closer to the land and animals that make up our state simply as a means for survival than the majority of the *lower 48*.  This is simply because of the wildness of the land in which we choose to blend our lives.  What we take, we use entirely and wanton waste is a deadly practice here legally and otherwise.  We know how important our resources are and what it takes to survive, and that means survive, not camp out and rough it for a few weeks.  So I guess in closing, we as Alaskans try to make the best blend of human, animal and vegetation that we possibly can as our lives and livelihood depend upon that successful blend.
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#77 | 135 days ago
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seal_warrior1 wrote:
Most Alaskans first of all did NOT want the aerial hunting stopped.  I am not going to get into a huge debate regarding the controversy on the goods and evils of aerial hunting.  I realize you think there are none.  I will also say, that you will not find another state where the majority of the people practice personally what others preach as far as game regulation and treasuring their environment.  It is a very serious issue here and we take it seriously.  However, things are not always as they may see from the surface.   We LIVE closer to the land and animals that make up our state simply as a means for survival than the majority of the *lower 48*.  This is simply because of the wildness of the land in which we choose to blend our lives.  What we take, we use entirely and wanton waste is a deadly practice here legally and otherwise.  We know how important our resources are and what it takes to survive, and that means survive, not camp out and rough it for a few weeks.  So I guess in closing, we as Alaskans try to make the best blend of human, animal and vegetation that we possibly can as our lives and livelihood depend upon that successful blend.
 I respect your opinion, but I have spent a lot of time in Alaska myself and in some of the most brutal wilderness you will find. I was tagging certain Wolves and doing my work. I talked with many Alaskans who don't want Aerial Hunting of Wolves because it is inhumane and as far as I am concerned a cowards way to hunt a Wolf, especially when they land and go into a Wolf's Den and shoot Wolf Pups in the head. No need for a debate here about that. You want to kill a Wolf go get your gun and walk into the Wild and see what happens, but when rich trophy hunters are flown in so they can rundown Wolves to exhaustion and gun them down from the air to a slow painful death, well it is a tragic state of humanity that allows that business. I only speak as an expert because I know, I have been there, and have had run-in's with those kind and it's about money. It's the same reason I have been on Canadian ice watching Seals climb out and get beaten to death and have been there going toe to toe. So that is all I will say about that, some things are just plain wrong and there is no way to defend it.
#78 | 135 days ago

rileyjames47 wrote:
 I respect your opinion, but I have spent a lot of time in Alaska myself and in some of the most brutal wilderness you will find. I was tagging certain Wolves and doing my work. I talked with many Alaskans who don't want Aerial Hunting of Wolves because it is inhumane and as far as I am concerned a cowards way to hunt a Wolf, especially when they land and go into a Wolf's Den and shoot Wolf Pups in the head. No need for a debate here about that. You want to kill a Wolf go get your gun and walk into the Wild and see what happens, but when rich trophy hunters are flown in so they can rundown Wolves to exhaustion and gun them down from the air to a slow painful death, well it is a tragic state of humanity that allows that business. I only speak as an expert because I know, I have been there, and have had run-in's with those kind and it's about money. It's the same reason I have been on Canadian ice watching Seals climb out and get beaten to death and have been there going toe to toe. So that is all I will say about that, some things are just plain wrong and there is no way to defend it.
 Although our opions are polar opposites (how about that for a play on words) I could see myself really enjoying conversation/debates with you.  Obviously your opinions are based on deep beliefs that you hold.  As long as people can debate without getting nasty with each other and stick to making their points based on facts, debates can broaden everyone's views.....
#79 | 133 days ago

rileyjames47 wrote:
 I respect your opinion, but I have spent a lot of time in Alaska myself and in some of the most brutal wilderness you will find. I was tagging certain Wolves and doing my work. I talked with many Alaskans who don't want Aerial Hunting of Wolves because it is inhumane and as far as I am concerned a cowards way to hunt a Wolf, especially when they land and go into a Wolf's Den and shoot Wolf Pups in the head. No need for a debate here about that. You want to kill a Wolf go get your gun and walk into the Wild and see what happens, but when rich trophy hunters are flown in so they can rundown Wolves to exhaustion and gun them down from the air to a slow painful death, well it is a tragic state of humanity that allows that business. I only speak as an expert because I know, I have been there, and have had run-in's with those kind and it's about money. It's the same reason I have been on Canadian ice watching Seals climb out and get beaten to death and have been there going toe to toe. So that is all I will say about that, some things are just plain wrong and there is no way to defend it.
I, too, respect your opinion.  I have spent almost 33 years up here.  That's quite a lot of time also.  And I'm glad you were able to spend time here and do good.  Without the balance you provide on the other end, it could well be exactly a massacre.  But a little time does not the story tell.   There are views both way, I never denied that.  But it's not a HUNT for a wolf trophy, it's a matter of balance.  I personally think a death of slow starvation for lack of food would be a sorry way for an animal to die.  Long and slow and painful.  And the pups in their dens.. best to leave them on their own, with no mother, what are THEIR chances of survival?  Or, when mom dies from lack of food and can no longer feed them, is their death and less certain?  Small pups in the wild in winter have a very very low survival rate.  There are not a bunch of people there to take care of them, there is only so much that can realistically be done.  Can't have an over abundance of wolves kill off the caribou and moose either.  It's all such a delicate balance that we impact just by sharing the same earth, let alone closer environs.  Life is not always full of easy choices.  It is very incorrect to assume it is a bunch of trophy hunters flying in to try to decimate the wolf population.  For crying out loud, we love them too.  We are not unfeeling.  It is not something people do for pleasure.  It is not something that is done as an easy way to get a nice wolf pelt.  I can not comment against what you have seen.  There are sour apples all over the earth.  So you may well have seen your fair share but that doesn't mean it's a majority.  I have also never been for clubbing seals.. as gee that's my nickname!  They could shoot them for a quick death.  They go for the babies for the white fur.  I can't argue nor do I condone such.  That is much more inhumane than shooting a wolf or a pup in the head for a quick death.  The deaths are not all as you are presenting.  There are two sides Riley, and it's a slippery balance to maintain the scale.  So tho I admire and am in great appreciation of what you do, have done, and will be doing it's because  I know it comes from your heart.  And the good you do makes a difference.  But please remember that slippery balance.  For what I am telling you is not BS either. 

Always a pleasure to exchange views and opinions with you.  I hope to not have offended you, as that is most definitly not my intent.  I think you know me well enough to know that.  Our views may differ and our means,  but I think we both intend good for the earth, and all of us who share her.
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#80 | 133 days ago
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seal_warrior1 wrote:
I, too, respect your opinion.  I have spent almost 33 years up here.  That's quite a lot of time also.  And I'm glad you were able to spend time here and do good.  Without the balance you provide on the other end, it could well be exactly a massacre.  But a little time does not the story tell.   There are views both way, I never denied that.  But it's not a HUNT for a wolf trophy, it's a matter of balance.  I personally think a death of slow starvation for lack of food would be a sorry way for an animal to die.  Long and slow and painful.  And the pups in their dens.. best to leave them on their own, with no mother, what are THEIR chances of survival?  Or, when mom dies from lack of food and can no longer feed them, is their death and less certain?  Small pups in the wild in winter have a very very low survival rate.  There are not a bunch of people there to take care of them, there is only so much that can realistically be done.  Can't have an over abundance of wolves kill off the caribou and moose either.  It's all such a delicate balance that we impact just by sharing the same earth, let alone closer environs.  Life is not always full of easy choices.  It is very incorrect to assume it is a bunch of trophy hunters flying in to try to decimate the wolf population.  For crying out loud, we love them too.  We are not unfeeling.  It is not something people do for pleasure.  It is not something that is done as an easy way to get a nice wolf pelt.  I can not comment against what you have seen.  There are sour apples all over the earth.  So you may well have seen your fair share but that doesn't mean it's a majority.  I have also never been for clubbing seals.. as gee that's my nickname!  They could shoot them for a quick death.  They go for the babies for the white fur.  I can't argue nor do I condone such.  That is much more inhumane than shooting a wolf or a pup in the head for a quick death.  The deaths are not all as you are presenting.  There are two sides Riley, and it's a slippery balance to maintain the scale.  So tho I admire and am in great appreciation of what you do, have done, and will be doing it's because  I know it comes from your heart.  And the good you do makes a difference.  But please remember that slippery balance.  For what I am telling you is not BS either. 

Always a pleasure to exchange views and opinions with you.  I hope to not have offended you, as that is most definitly not my intent.  I think you know me well enough to know that.  Our views may differ and our means,  but I think we both intend good for the earth, and all of us who share her.
Dadgum Seal!!  THIS might just possibly be the smartest comment I have ever read on here.......and that IS saying a lot, mind you.    WELL DONE my Friend!
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#81 | 133 days ago

d29point9 wrote:
Dadgum Seal!!  THIS might just possibly be the smartest comment I have ever read on here.......and that IS saying a lot, mind you.    WELL DONE my Friend!
Thank you Darren, that is high praise coming from you, my friend! 
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#82 | 133 days ago
rileyjames47 (+)

seal_warrior1 wrote:
Thank you Darren, that is high praise coming from you, my friend! 
 I respect your thoughts and views and we obviously differ in our perspectives. Yes, the Safari Club does bring in Trophy Hunters to hunt wolves and they also backed Palin with big money to defeat the ballot measure that would close that loophole, which allows aerial hunting. We are not just talking about Hunters, who do so to survive. You don't see aerial hunting of Moose and Elk, which is not because their numbers are low, it is to keep their numbers high to attract Elk & Moose Hunters to Alaska at the Wolves expense.
 Also killing for fur is not necessary, especially helpless pups, and if it were not for the Aerial Hunting and killing of Wolves they would have their parents to raise them. I hope you are not advocating that the Wolf Pups are "Mercy Killings". Hunters don't know if there parents are dead because they are alone in a Wolf Den. In fact wolf families are highly structured and complex, and quite impressive. I know we do not agree, but the Wolf Deaths I describe are exactly as I describe them and I have seen them with footage to back them up.
  I understand you are proud of your State, but when people start messing with Mother Nature and the cycle of animals lives within an ecosystem it screws up everything and the balance of life changes at the expense of human tampering. Is it really necessary to kill wolves at all? The Native Americans in Alaska revere the Wolf as mystical & spiritual creature that holds deep meaning to them. Thank you for the debate,

Riley
#83 | 133 days ago

Wow pretty intense thread, but I am very impressed with almost everything that has been said. I think it is great that people can get into debates like this on here, one of the reasons I stay around. At the same time, I think it's a shame that some of these comments are hidden by the PQ fairy. I do not have anything intelligent to offer on this subject other than that, so I will just continue reading and learning!
#84 | 123 days ago

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If anybody was even able to decipher what Sarah Palin said in her resignation speech- lol- here's what I gathered from it. She cited the Media (and their circus) for alot of the reason why she quit, yet (shortly afterwards) invited the media blitz on a fishing trip with her. WTF? Then shortly after that, gave an interview with a Washington Post reporter, once again, WTF? She is (and has been) more of a fan of the "Spotlight" and her OWN SELF than she has been of actually running her State as a Governor- plain and simple. She also stated that "quitters were bad"- yet QUIT HER POST!   As a Former U.S. Marine, I will state this fact, ANY person who quits their post is a DESERTER and (during a wartime situation), Desertion is punishable by DEATH by a firing squad. I'm not saying that Ms. Barracuda should be executed (don't misquote me please), but I am however stating that she deserted her post as an elected Government Official- period!  If she actually did run for the highest office in the Nation, and was actually elected President of the U.S., what would stop her from QUITTING HER POST again, considering her track record proves otherwise??? What happens when the "media" hounds her like they do EVERY President?  Does she stand in there- or does she walk away with her tail between her legs like she just did???  Well, I personally am not willing to take a chance on a proven QUITTER!!!  PQ me all you like, but facts are facts, and the truth sometimes stings a wee bit!!
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#85 | 123 days ago

She was too much of a maverick for her own good.
#86 | 123 days ago

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#88 | 115 days ago

 Why are we still talking about this woman? They took a punt on her and she didn't pay off...move on. I'd rather see a healthy encouraging engaging world (in which America is very much a part of that) rather than one based on one ideology (especially man-made ideology). Seriously, we might as well be debating and drawing a line in the sand about whose club is bigger or who draws the better cave painting.
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#89 | 113 days ago

RaiderSteve wrote:
If Palin run's for President ??  I WILL vote for her!!!, and so will all my family, friends, and church.  I got a question ,,, If Jesus Christ ran for President as a Republican ??   Would a Democrat vote for HIM ???( Hell no)    If HE ran as a Democrat?? ALL Conservatives would without a doubt !!  Funny huh ?? 
Are you actually comparing Sarah Palin to Jesus Christ in this post???? Because it sure seems that way..... To even mention her name in the same paragraph as Jesus' name is a complete insult to every "Christian" on the planet. Hell I'm insulted and I don't even believe in God.... You also insulted every Democrat in this Country by insinuating they don't believe in Jesus... Wow man, just WOW........
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#90 | 113 days ago

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