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**UFC 106**Ortiz vs. Griffin 2**11/21** (Edited 11/21/09 06:38PM by Pat)
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Featured by: Pat at 10/13/09 11:11AM
Scored by Michael_G on 11/21/09 at 02:08PM | Closed on 11/21/09 at 08:00PM
FanIQ Pts? 8 | MMA, Forrest Griffin, Tito Ortiz | Multiple Choice Prediction Poll
Team Breakout:
Correct Answer95 Fans 
  1. Who wins? World Heavyweight Championship Bout (10 points)
Correct35%a. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw
Correct65%b. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)
  2. Who wins? (10 points)
39%a. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)
Correct61%b. Forrest Griffin (16-6)
  3. Who wins? (10 points)
Correct85%a. Jon Fitch (23-3)
Correct15%b. Ricardo Almeida (11-3)
  4. Who wins? (10 points)
Correct67%a. Karo Parisyan (26-5)
Correct33%b. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)
  5. Who wins? (10 points)
Correct48%a. Amir Sadollah (2-1)
52%b. Phil Baroni (6-5)
  6. Who Wins? (10 points)
Correct28%a. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)
72%b. Marcus Davis (21-6)
  7. Who Wins? (10 points)
Correct59%a. Kendall Grove (12-6)
41%b. Jake Rosholt (6-1)
  8. Who wins? (10 points)
Correct84%a. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)
16%b. Jason Dent (NA)
  Tiebreaker: How many of the 7 fights end in submission or knockout
Correct 3

 &nbp;
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#5 | 1805 days ago

This card is actually a load of interesting match ups
purely fight wise i'd say the main event is most likely to be the most boring actually
forrest griffin vs tito ortiz is an amazing match up, there basically opposites on the ground and standing, griffins jiu jitsu and ortiz's wrestling, forrest strikes generally in straight forward long 'punches n bunches' combos where as tito ortiz is a big hitter
should be a really great fight
cant wait to see jon fitch in action again, and almeida is a slick fighter so that one will be a close battle for sure
i cant wait to see karo parisyan get whooped also

sadollah's match is basically a give away for sadollah, if he doesnt beat an old phil baroni well then...maybe TUF 7 was just a fluke

ben saunders vs marcus davis should be an awesome war of strikers, rosholt is a great new guy vs kendall grove who is a solid vet, that should be a solid match

and george sotiropolous is always fun to watch and jason dent is tough dude who wont make it easy for sure
Carwin vs lesnar will either be a great fight if carwin KO's lesnar or just another quick finished GNP victory for Brock, it should show whether he is truly a dominant champion here to stay or (as i believe) frank mir is just over rated
  this card may just surprise you for how interesting it is

1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
  
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#1 | 1806 days ago

Some of my answers might be wishful thinking... I realize that.
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Ricardo Almeida (11-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#2 | 1806 days ago

your way off
well i dont have a clue anyways
#3 | 1806 days ago

 None of the matches seems interesting...
#4 | 1806 days ago

crindusa_Saurav wrote:
 None of the matches seems interesting...
IDK .... Sotiropoulos had a fantastic fight @ 101. But I'll tell you the truth; If Carwin pulls it off, & all my other picks go down the tube it will still be a good night for me!   
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Ricardo Almeida (11-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#5 | 1805 days ago

This card is actually a load of interesting match ups
purely fight wise i'd say the main event is most likely to be the most boring actually
forrest griffin vs tito ortiz is an amazing match up, there basically opposites on the ground and standing, griffins jiu jitsu and ortiz's wrestling, forrest strikes generally in straight forward long 'punches n bunches' combos where as tito ortiz is a big hitter
should be a really great fight
cant wait to see jon fitch in action again, and almeida is a slick fighter so that one will be a close battle for sure
i cant wait to see karo parisyan get whooped also

sadollah's match is basically a give away for sadollah, if he doesnt beat an old phil baroni well then...maybe TUF 7 was just a fluke

ben saunders vs marcus davis should be an awesome war of strikers, rosholt is a great new guy vs kendall grove who is a solid vet, that should be a solid match

and george sotiropolous is always fun to watch and jason dent is tough dude who wont make it easy for sure
Carwin vs lesnar will either be a great fight if carwin KO's lesnar or just another quick finished GNP victory for Brock, it should show whether he is truly a dominant champion here to stay or (as i believe) frank mir is just over rated
  this card may just surprise you for how interesting it is

1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#6 | 1804 days ago

I think the best fight on this card would have to be between Marcus Davis vs Ben Saunders. Their both good strikers but I think Marcus can pull it off. Tito vs Forrest with also be a good fight with most of the match being on the ground most likely. Shane Carwins got 1 shot KO power and who knows how good Brock's chin is. Amir sadollah will win in the first round by sub. As for Karo I think after he loses this fight he will be out of the UFC. Kendall Grove will get KOed with that glass chin of his by Jake Rosholt.
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#7 | 1804 days ago

Excellent card. I like Parisian though. He has better standup and his ground control is sick. Hazlett really that BJJ if he is gonna pull it out. I'm picking Carwin because his size, speed, and wrestling ability are good enough to cancel out Brock. Carwin's KO ability is gonna bring him the win. Who knows how good Tito is now a days but I like Forrest by submission. All and all a very exciting card. Can't wait.

1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#8 | 1801 days ago

I didn't know Forrest Griffin replaced Mark Coleman. Now I'm not sure about my decision to pick Tito to get a victory.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#9 | 1801 days ago

(Edited by Michael_G)
adrisoto86 wrote:
I didn't know Forrest Griffin replaced Mark Coleman. Now I'm not sure about my decision to pick Tito to get a victory.
When the poll was made it was Forrest Griffin, I didn't change or edit the poll,
I will have to edit the spelling of his name however...
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Phil Baroni (6-5)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#10 | 1798 days ago

i just want to see this pay per view.doesn't matter whoever wins, it would be a historical event. just add anderson silva vs. chuck liddell.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#11 | 1798 days ago

daddybair33 wrote:
i just want to see this pay per view.doesn't matter whoever wins, it would be a historical event. just add anderson silva vs. chuck liddell.
this is a great card but speaking purely from a standpoint on who is fighting it is a long way to go to be a 'historical event'
and anderson silva vs chuck liddel???
why?? you just finish watching the chuck liddel special on spike and think he's unbeatable, never heard of any other fighters besides brock, anderson and chuck??
seriously check chuck's record, i always think a fighter should keep fighting if he still loves the sport but preferably against guys who won't give him moderate/severe brain damage every fight
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#12 | 1798 days ago

daddybair33 wrote:
i just want to see this pay per view.doesn't matter whoever wins, it would be a historical event. just add anderson silva vs. chuck liddell.
Anything is historical once it's in the past........ historic on the other hand......
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Ricardo Almeida (11-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#13 | 1798 days ago

daddybair33 wrote:
i just want to see this pay per view.doesn't matter whoever wins, it would be a historical event. just add anderson silva vs. chuck liddell.
any mma fan would watch that fight card, and that is what would make it historic.and monumental.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#14 | 1798 days ago

daddybair33 wrote:
any mma fan would watch that fight card, and that is what would make it historic.and monumental.
therefore: any and all mma cards are historic and monumental and by definition then become mediocre
reconsider your logic.
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#15 | 1798 days ago

daddybair33 wrote:
any mma fan would watch that fight card, and that is what would make it historic.and monumental.
not all i am talking about this one, as much as i hate to say it usually pretty much the only fight i want to see is the main event, the under cards not so much. if you took the poll then you've scene the card i'm talking about.... some fights suck, and some are for the record books . i.e. chuck liddell vs. tito ortiz.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#16 | 1798 days ago

daddybair33 wrote:
any mma fan would watch that fight card, and that is what would make it historic.and monumental.
heck the upcoming pay per view is probably one we will forget , except the somewhat interesting main event, and that's only if your into brock lesner.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#17 | 1798 days ago

so...lemme get this straight...you claim this card is historic and monumental...and now you say its forgettable except brock lesnar
...this is probably because you just got into mma and don't know a whole lot of background..you watch the main card stuff so you get all pumped up for the main events
i suggest you try learning some of what they are actually doing...personally i very rarely find the main card more interesting than the undercards...theres almost always a great fight in the undercards but main events rarely live up to their reputations
as for people....amir sadollah, forrest griffin, jon fitch, marcus davis, karo parisyan, kendall grove- these are all top dudes who have fought in main events before..well not sadollah but hes a TUF kid who i had very high hopes for before larry landless and hendricks took them away but i digress
the main point is, cards are generally historic for one of two reasons..the meeting of two undefeated, two champions or just for an incredible fight in the octagon although most people pay attention to the second one or they watch these PPV pump-ups on spike and think the contender is gonna put up some incredible crazy fight like rocky vs apollo creed
even when someone with a bit of knowledge could tell you that, that fight would be one sided or boring i.e. frank mir vs brock lesnar 2 (anyone with some technical knowledge or hell even without it could see frank mir was getting whooped and that brock just got a bit too ahead of himself, and could tell you he wouldn't make that mistake again)
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#18 | 1798 days ago

"TUF kid"    Way to pun!   n'yuk n'yuk n'yuk       I was once told that puns aren't humor, that they are a passive/aggressive way to inflict torture on those that are closest to us......... I love them !        
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Ricardo Almeida (11-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#19 | 1797 days ago

These polls are some what BS because I bet half of the people who voted on this don't even know who half these people are. They just picked the guy with the best record. 
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#20 | 1797 days ago

Well said my good sir
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#21 | 1788 days ago

(Edited by Michael_G)
With Lesnar withdrawing from his fight with Carwin the main event has been changed to Ortiz vs. Griffin...the Carwin/Lesnar fight will be scored as a draw...all other entries and tie-breaker remain the same..
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Phil Baroni (6-5)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#22 | 1785 days ago

If Shane can't take Brock, then Cain V. is our only hope.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#23 | 1785 days ago

evildeadmitch wrote:
If Shane can't take Brock, then Cain V. is our only hope.
there are a few more contenders left in the pile (espescially keeping in mind those outside the UFC)
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#24 | 1785 days ago

hapkido_warrior wrote:
there are a few more contenders left in the pile (espescially keeping in mind those outside the UFC)
Besides Fedor...... Who?
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#25 | 1785 days ago

(Edited by Leroyjonass)
brett rogers?
#26 | 1785 days ago

evildeadmitch wrote:
Besides Fedor...... Who?
yes brett rogers, big nog, cheick congo might have a chance (we'll see how he does against mir, alistair overeem (not my personal favorite as a contender but he seems to always make bank in the rankings) junior dos santos is doing well and could bloom into a contender and mike russow is a possible prospect in the future
plus: i've never given up on good ol randy
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#27 | 1785 days ago

and i suppose i'll throw in bobby lashley for all you WWE fans out there
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#28 | 1781 days ago
alexkubba (+)

i cant wait to see forrest kick the crap out of tito.everybody is always giving props to tito ortiz..he is all talk and way overrated.if talking shit made you a champion he would own all the weight classes
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#29 | 1778 days ago

alexkubba wrote:
i cant wait to see forrest kick the crap out of tito.everybody is always giving props to tito ortiz..he is all talk and way overrated.if talking shit made you a champion he would own all the weight classes
took the words right out of my mouth.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Ricardo Almeida (11-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Phil Baroni (6-5)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#30 | 1778 days ago

alexkubba wrote:
i cant wait to see forrest kick the crap out of tito.everybody is always giving props to tito ortiz..he is all talk and way overrated.if talking shit made you a champion he would own all the weight classes
believe it or not, tito ortiz isn't that bad a guy, as strange as this may sound talking shit is part of his strategy, he uses it as a tool to get into his opponents heads: most fighters fight at their best when they put their emotions asidel, tito is not like most fighters, he tries to bring in emotion because it helps him, he fights at his best when all emotions are running hot in the cage
he is actually friends with most of the people he talked a ton of crap about and worked with many of them in training camps later on
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#31 | 1778 days ago
angeltwo (+)

I believe the Carwin vs Lesnar fight has been postponed.  Pushed to January and now maybe even later.  Due to illness on Lesnar's part.  So, we will have  to wait it seems..A~
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Phil Baroni (6-5)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#32 | 1778 days ago
alexkubba (+)

hapkido_warrior wrote:
believe it or not, tito ortiz isn't that bad a guy, as strange as this may sound talking shit is part of his strategy, he uses it as a tool to get into his opponents heads: most fighters fight at their best when they put their emotions asidel, tito is not like most fighters, he tries to bring in emotion because it helps him, he fights at his best when all emotions are running hot in the cage
he is actually friends with most of the people he talked a ton of crap about and worked with many of them in training camps later on
are you freaking kidding me?? everybody hates him.ive seen him quit or coast through so many fights.maybe his talking and bragging got into the head of ken shamrock.but how hard is that.other than shamrock who has he won against? yeah yeah i know he won that decision against griffin but that fight was close.im not even saying i hate the guy.what im saying is that he is a second tier fighter.the reason he gets top billing is because people want to see what he'll say,and if whoever he said it about will beat the crap out of him.
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#33 | 1778 days ago

alexkubba wrote:
are you freaking kidding me?? everybody hates him.ive seen him quit or coast through so many fights.maybe his talking and bragging got into the head of ken shamrock.but how hard is that.other than shamrock who has he won against? yeah yeah i know he won that decision against griffin but that fight was close.im not even saying i hate the guy.what im saying is that he is a second tier fighter.the reason he gets top billing is because people want to see what he'll say,and if whoever he said it about will beat the crap out of him.
check his record, he's beaten some top guys
and everyone doesn't hate him (i assume your referring to other fighters there) i've seen him quit, only once vs randy couture and i've never seen him coast, intensity is his game if nothing else
i wouldn't say he gets top billing because of his trash talk but it may substantiate some of it, but he did win a lot of fights, beating vitor belfort, patrick cote, the previously mentioned forrest griffin, ken shamrock, wanderlei silva and guy mezger
not a half bad list of wins, he did more than trash talk to get those
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#34 | 1777 days ago
alexkubba (+)

hapkido_warrior wrote:
check his record, he's beaten some top guys
and everyone doesn't hate him (i assume your referring to other fighters there) i've seen him quit, only once vs randy couture and i've never seen him coast, intensity is his game if nothing else
i wouldn't say he gets top billing because of his trash talk but it may substantiate some of it, but he did win a lot of fights, beating vitor belfort, patrick cote, the previously mentioned forrest griffin, ken shamrock, wanderlei silva and guy mezger
not a half bad list of wins, he did more than trash talk to get those
Is Tito related to you or something?lol
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#35 | 1777 days ago

alexkubba wrote:
Is Tito related to you or something?lol

not at all, i'm just pointing out he's not some terrible fighter who just runs his mouth off about being the best

i've met him but i hardly base any of this on the few seconds i was at the front of a line; most of this information actually comes from randy couture's and liddel's books which go more in depth on training camps and other fighters behind the scenes then what you'll see on spike TV. Randy actually changed his gameplan to include some pre-fight trash talk jabs in order to try and reverse tito's regular use of emotion and anger to get inside his opponents head and after the two fought tito came and trained at team quest (and there was no drama or issues)

1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#36 | 1770 days ago
darrell223 (+)

alexkubba wrote:
i cant wait to see forrest kick the crap out of tito.everybody is always giving props to tito ortiz..he is all talk and way overrated.if talking shit made you a champion he would own all the weight classes
Tito is the longest holder of the light heavyweight belt in the history of the UFC. That's why eveyone gives him props although Forrest will avenge his first loss.
#37 | 1768 days ago

karo withdrew, so that fight is off too
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#38 | 1768 days ago

missvangogh wrote:
took the words right out of my mouth.

High - Five! I am sooo hoping Forest rocks Tito. I know now all is supposedly good between he and Dana but he sure talked alot a smack while he was away!

#39 | 1768 days ago

redsox1002003 wrote:
karo withdrew, so that fight is off too
Yeah...sorta blows for the poll but that happens from time to time.....that fight will be scored as a draw as well, however, If Hazlett ends up in a match I will include the result in the tie-breaker...
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Phil Baroni (6-5)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#40 | 1768 days ago

as much as i hate Ortiz i see him beating Griffin
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Tito Ortiz (16-6-1)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Karo Parisyan (26-5)  5. Phil Baroni (6-5)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#41 | 1768 days ago

fell the power of wrestling
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  
#42 | 1766 days ago

Gold_Brock wrote:
fell the power of wrestling
Fell ?!    Did you mean Feel ? ....  or do you mean that the power of wrestling has fallen ?      
1. (Challenger) Shane Carwin (11-0) This bout has been postponed, it will be scored as a draw  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Ricardo Almeida (11-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Ben Saunders (7-1-2)  7. Jake Rosholt (6-1)  8. George Sotiropoulos (10-2)  
#43 | 1762 days ago

johnsward66 wrote:
Fell ?!    Did you mean Feel ? ....  or do you mean that the power of wrestling has fallen ?      
mr. johns you were wright thats feel the power of wrestling
1. (Champion) Brock Lesnar (4-1)  2. Forrest Griffin (16-6)  3. Jon Fitch (23-3)  4. Dustin Hazlett (14-4)  5. Amir Sadollah (2-1)  6. Marcus Davis (21-6)  7. Kendall Grove (12-6)  8. Jason Dent (NA)  

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