Pads have been downsized but are still bigger than before Bettman began his tenure as commissioner, but it is not the pad size it is all the reat of the equipment that is making the biggest difference
Bowman pulled that stunt to prove a point. All that I am trying to say is that goalie equipment should be for protecting the goalie not to help cover more net, The game would be better with more net to shoot at.
I like that fact that for the first time in my life they are usually trying to call all the rules rather than randomly..I am apalled that they allowed all the obstruction that they did during most of Bettman's tenure as commissioner for the sake of parity. Bowman pulled that stunt to prove a point. All that I am trying to say is that goalie equipment should be for protecting the goalie not to help cover more net, The game would be better with more net to shoot at.
I like that fact that...(more)
Goalie Pads were changed to 12 inches in 1984....known as the Barrasso rule.
In 1997, Scotty Bowman pulled a stunt where he had Mike Vernon stand on a spot in the crease wearing the equipment he used as a rookie and the equipment he wore in the 1996-97.
His 1985-86 equipment covered 33% of the net from the specific point that Bowman used, and 50% when using the 96-97 equipment. Vernon was also able to completely enclose his 1982 Junior glove within his 1997 glove.
A couple of years ago, Mario Lemieux discovered that using modern equipment, 57 year old Gilles Meloche had reflexes slightly faster than Marc-Andre Fleury...........and when Fleury put on a pair of Meloche's old pads...he couldn't stop a thing.
The advances in goalie equipment between 1985 and 2004 were quite radical when compared to the period between 1940 and 1985 where pads and gloves remained relatively unchanged (Jacques Plante used a pair of pads in his only WHA season that he had purchased in 1952...22 yrs earlier, Terry Sawchuk wore 3 pairs of pads during his entire NHL career, two of which were bought in the 1940s, and he was still wearing them in 1970).
Goalie Pads were changed to 12 inches in 1984....known as the Barrasso rule.
In 1997, Scotty Bowman pulled a stunt where he had Mike Vernon stand on a spot in the crease wearing the equipment he used as a rookie and the equipment he wore in the...(more)
Because hockey would be so much better if they regulated the size of the shoulder pads and made them wear tight fitting jerseys and decreased the size of gloves and reduced the pads to the 10 inches that they were before Bettman was commissioner. Players trying to break records would create excitement about the game and most importantly it would be more entertaining to watch . Why do you have a bugg up your a$$ about what I think?Because hockey would be so much better if they regulated the size of the shoulder pads and made them wear tight fitting jerseys and decreased the size of gloves and reduced the pads to the 10 inches that they were before Bettman was commissioner....(more)
Truth is stranger than fiction. Parity has always been a catch phrase for Bettman. I never said anything about a conspiracy. You tell me then, why was all the obstruction and bigger goalie equipment allowed?
I would have been done with this long ago remember when I was trying to show you the differenc in size in pictures and we concluded that because of angles and distances pictures were not an accurate ay to judge the size of equipment and trhen I copied and pasted where a league administrtor in charge of policing the size of equipment went on to say that there is a marginal difference in size of pads but the biggest difference is in shoulder pads shirts blockers and gloves yert you continue to say stuff like "says you and only you"I would have been done with this long ago remember when I was trying to show you the differenc in size in pictures and we concluded that because of angles and distances pictures were not an accurate ay to judge the size of equipment and trhen I...(more)
Roy switching sides?
Was it just odd timing or an orchestrated coincidence?
During a press conference prior to Sunday's All-Star Game, retired goaltender Patrick Roy was asked for his thoughts on reducing the size of goalie equipment as a way to increase scoring. Roy noted the width limit increased from 10 to 12 inches during his playing days (1985-2003) and that he'd be in favor of reducing it back to 10 inches. Two days later, the league's general managers made the same recommendation at their meeting in Henderson, Nevada.
We won't go so far as to say we suspect the league asked the winningest goaltender of all time to ease the shock for the brethren he left behind; that would be speculation on our part. Still, we can't help but recall that Roy not only took advantage of the rules when he played, but he stretched them every time he had the chance. Once, Roy was fingered for employing a wing-like device that spread out from his already large pads whenever he dropped into the butterfly formation. The flaps, initially designed to protect the area alongside and behind the knee, opened to a point where they helped cover the open area between the goalies legs, commonly known as the five holeRoy switching sides?
Was it just odd timing or an orchestrated coincidence?
During a press conference prior to Sunday's All-Star Game, retired goaltender Patrick Roy was asked for his thoughts on reducing the size of goalie equipment as a way to...(more)
You said I was the only one heres another one "Two things have contributed to the rise of the goalie. First, it’s far more of a science now, just the same as the golf swing and the field goal kick. Where goalies in the old days relied on reflexes and instinct, today’s top stoppers are masters of positioning and process. The majority of shots just hit them, as opposed to the toe saves and splits we used to see, the same ones that look completely ridiculous in hindsight.
Second, the equipment. It’s enormous. Yeah, yeah, everyone knows that, so I won’t expand on it. But where the debate usually falls apart is what to do about it. When the NHL returned from its lockout, leg guards were reduced a whopping inch, from 12” to 11”. In 1989, they were 10” and that’s what they would’ve been in 2004 if the goalies hadn’t put up a stink. They complained that reducing the size of the equipment would make them more vulnerable to injury, a predictable argument.
The thing is, forwards and defensemen block shots all game. Why do goalies need so much more equipment than regular players? Besides, it’s not like goalies get injured on shots much anyway. It’s all groins and knee strains and sports hernias. When was the last time you heard about a goalie that’s out with a puck-related injury? Richard Brodeur took one off the ear once. When was that?"
You said I was the only one heres another one "Two things have contributed to the rise of the goalie. First, it’s far more of a science now, just the same as the golf swing and the field goal kick. Where goalies in the old days relied on reflexes...(more)
Not too long. ago on TSN, Headline Sports, Sportsnet, The Hockey News and NHL management were talking about increasing the size of the nets to compensate for the lack of scoring because of increased size of goalie equipment and obstruction. I doubt you have ever purchased an issue of the Hockey News or even checked out the website, I don't know why you like to argue about a sport you obviously don't care so much about . Not too long. ago on TSN, Headline Sports, Sportsnet, The Hockey News and NHL management were talking about increasing the size of the nets to compensate for the lack of scoring because of increased size of goalie equipment and obstruction. I doubt you...(more)
So you say but if you care to read som of the comments posted on this article by people other than you and I there is at least a couple of people that actually do agree with me so you are wrong to say "you and only you"
You said "says you and only you", I was merely pointing out that even in this forum there are others that agree ,with me not to mention that there must be others out there that have never read this article that do or if presented the facts would also agree. Seems nobody is agreeing with anything you have said about this article You said "says you and only you", I was merely pointing out that even in this forum there are others that agree ,with me not to mention that there must be others out there that have never read this article that do or if...(more)
i was just checkin it out seems i got more respects for my comment about this than you i think the only one you got was the one i accidentally gave you
How can you say that when they made drastic changes in how the game was being officiated after the last lockout. After Bettman got his salary cap he allowed them to play hockey but unfortunately some of the changes made during the rerst of hi tenure still prevail like the bigger goalie equipment. There are still more than 2000 fewer goals scored every year now then were scored before he was ever commissioner.How can you say that when they made drastic changes in how the game was being officiated after the last lockout. After Bettman got his salary cap he allowed them to play hockey but unfortunately some of the changes made during the rerst of hi tenure...(more)
That is very omnipotent of you to know what everyone notices or complains about, the goalie equipment has been slightly reduced recently but has significantly grown during Bettman's first few years as commissioner. There has been a lot of complaints that is why all the "new" rules after the last lockout and why the goalie equipment has been slightly reduced recently it is still much bigger than it was before Bettman became commissionerThat is very omnipotent of you to know what everyone notices or complains about, the goalie equipment has been slightly reduced recently but has significantly grown during Bettman's first few years as commissioner. There has been a lot of complaints...(more)
Brian Burke doesn't seem to realize that to win hockey games its all about scoring and preventing goals, the leafs would have a good chance at winning the cup if it was wrestling or brawling on ice